Engine Compressor Stall after Takeoff | Emergency Return to Boston
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2024
- 20/MAR/2024
American Airlines A319 performing flight from Boston to Philadelphia was on the initial climb when the pilots reported they had just suffered an engine compressor stall, they were smelling smoke, and would need to return to Boston.
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Like for that PAN-PAN x3 call!!
PANPAN, discrete frequency and not asking for fuel in cubic yards per gallon or something like that? When did Schiphol ATC move to Boston? 😂 (just trying to be funny, no hate plz)
Next thing you know the US will be using metric!
Maybe he watches this channel and knew you'd be checking his homework!
@@benoithudson7235 Hell is not even looking cool yet!
It's pronounced "pon pon, pon pon, pon pon" dammit
"we're fine we're all fine here now thank you, how are you?", "we're sending a squad up", "negative...
Nice reference :)
👍👍👍
nice
it was a boring conversation anyway
@@UnshavenStatue😂
3:23 Pilot: "Okay, that's fine. Everything is running fine right now." Tower: "Yeah I know." You gotta love Boston!
reminded me of ua-cam.com/video/KYAbFqkvzQA/v-deo.html 😹
Spot on!@@nosuchanimal6947
Well, when you say the words, you get the equipment. Whether the words are Pan-Pan, Mayday, or “declaring an emergency”, when you say those words, you get friends following you in.
Not tower, approach
"Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?" I kid of course. Thankful for the safety first mindset.
Nice one Han Solo !!
Every now and then we'd get a compressor stall in the test cell at the airline engine shop. It would shake the whole building.
Crystal clear audio here and professional communications. Thanks!
Best audio I’ve heard so far
The receiver must be real close.
AND a dedicated controller link up with CFR. I’m impressed!
"i got about 5 or 6 things to do here".. Our hero is being kind and not saying 43.
He did the right thing. Good response by all. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Glad things turned out ok.
Thanks for sharing.
I really like the early communcation about discrete freq. Even if everythings going great if something was to go wrong /it's nice to have that info when things are less critical.
"No, really, I said we're fine, Dad!"
Thank you for another great video from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
Emergancy services are standing by. “Just precautionary” 😂
Very solid conversation, got to admire it 👌👌👌
I recognize that Departure air traffic controller, I live in the Boston area so I listen to him every day for fun.
A severe compressor stall on takeoff is a REALLY tough one for the engine. Enormous stress. And this example, remember that the engine worked fine after it, shows how super extra duper well engines are designed and built today. The engineering work behind the design of the engine and tools for manufacturing and the manufacturing procedures are amazing!
Oh wow, a discrete frequency in the US? Didn't think that would be possible there.
I’m impressed too.
I'm surprised that discrete frequencies are not used more often in the US. Very glad to see BOS using one so early in the process here, almost feels like they were treating this PANPAN call as a way to run a realistic emergency drill.
Great job, fellas!
Thank you very much!🙂👍
Everything's fine, just a minor engine compressor stall and a few smokes here and there, nothing special.
/s
*Insert everything's fine meme*
😂😂😂
Lmao
Han Solo
"Everything's fine. We're all fine up here.
How are you?"
Yeah, I know
Actually if you bring is slowly back to idle and the stalls stop it usually is pretty fine. You'll have to scope the engine but as long as it's not continuous after you roll it back to idle it is generally fine. In that case you shut down the offending engine anyways. Either way you're landing but the aircraft can fly one one engine. It has two for a reason. From my experience on the Airbus compressor stalls a lot of the time come from issues with either the VBV's or VSV's. I experience more compressor stalls on the A320F versus the 737. Thankfully haven't had one happen to me yet.
Pilots be like: we just had a pterodactyl land on top of the aircraft so we need to, I guess, get rid of it and return. But really, it's nothing much."
A90 F: _"Yeah, it happens all the time. The pterodactyls have been getting pretty bad around here this time of year. Just let us know if we need to send Alan Grant up to handle the issue."_
@@brandondaniels9471 Better than a gremlin on the wing and having to call Bill Shatner!
That was funny bro... I truly did LOL at this comment.
"Roger. With the extra weight of the pterodactyl, do you need to burn off any fuel to get to landing weight?" "Nah, we should be all right."
Just checking.
better safe than sorry.
Somebody wasnt eager to come back to Boston. Lmao
I could tell too. 😅
You understand that's a "pretty severe compressor stall" when the pilot's voice is shaky like that
When I first read the video title, I was thinking of United.
Captain Oveur: Roger, Roger. What’s our vector, Victor?
Safe than Sorry
Pilot: "Everything is fine now."
ATC: "Great, I'll alert the National Guard and advise NATO to trigger Article V."
The pilot used proper procedure when he declared an emergency.
"...we don't need anyone to look at it..." In pilot speak, "We fucked up and didn't hurt anything but time and money."
Typo at 2:34 for heading 170
Listen, if you're going to use the word "Severe" for a compressor stall, don't go getting annoyed at ATC for treating you as a full on emergency.
Yeah he did sound irked, “everything’s fine, nothing to see here”
A lot of people are uncomfortable with extra attention for things especially when they don’t end up needing it. I would say he was more uncomfortable than irked.
@@TheBrain0110 He sounded quite annoyed.
It wasn't a "full on emergency", it was Pan Pan.
@@JimWhitaker Controller declared the emergency, as noted by the EM tag on the display.
The red "EM" is self-explanatory but never seen it alternate between that and "EH"..... can someone please tell me what the "EH" tag is? Thanks.
There's no EH tag there. Maybe a visual effect on the screen and because of the zoom in to the radar scope.
Maybe it's Canadian.
@@VASAviation Thank you... that was strange.... it was literally flipping between EM and EH... visual effect makes sense... thanks for the reply and thank you for the AMAZING job you do with this channel!!!
Well done to all involved. Note it didn’t involve Boeing or United so didn’t make the news! The press are so predictable!
It didn't even fully make it in the title for this video (•‿•)
the pilot never read back the correct landing runway. is that a thing in the US? Not even the landing clearance readback contained the runway. I even wondered if he landed on the correct runway ...
I don't think it mattered since he was emergency aircraft. Usually they have discretion to land on whatever they choose.
it's the US, not a lot of what they do is correct. :)
I noticed that, too. He missed the readback twice, once with approach control and again with the tower. Sounded like he was pretty shaken. I can't imagine it is okay *not* to confirm the landing runway no matter what the emergency, lest it creates yet another emergency.
@@MW-zm8sdYeah, this has to be the first time I've heard a US pilot say panpan panpan panpan! And then we get down 2 3... 🙄
Does it cost the company anything if trucks get rolling by tower?
Nah. I don't think so. Emergency services like fire trucks are inherent to the airports.they probably include those fees in taxes or something. But if any damage happens to runways or something from the Airline . Airlines or their insurance company will pay.
I just assume it's extra paperwork probably in most cases. Would love to know too.
Cost the tax payers
@@SeligTilesAARF gets paid whether aircraft use their services or not. They literally don’t have another better to do.
It's covered by the landing fees.
How could they smell smoke in the cockpit from the engines? Is there an airflow duct in the cockpit or something?
I'm not an expert, but I believe the A319 uses bleed air from the engines to pressurize the cabin.
A310? I believe that was an A319 lol
Hey Vasa just so you know your description below the video says Airbus A310 not 319 🙂
Corrected. Thanks.
Subtitles also have 270, audio says Right turn 170
@@gregarious119yeah, sorry again for that. My keyboard has 1 and 2 together for some reason. I misclicked.
@VASAviation I hate when keyboard manufacturers place the keys for 1 and 2 so close together.
There should be at least a space bar between those two key strokes to keep one from mistyping.😂
Turns out it was a bird strike that caused the stall and engine damage. Ouch!
Glad someone in the US is now finally using pan-pan correctly.
Unnecessary in the US.
@@driver_7x It is absolutely in the US, go read your AIM.
Compressor stalls can be caused by a number of things, but they are usually pretty easy to solve if the small, I forget the name but, blow-out door on the engine opens and allows the engine to breathe a bit more. The irony is that, since this was an Airbus jet I never heard of this happening, but if it was a Boeing or a 737MAX it would be all over the news.
so true... but Boeing brought all this negative attention on to themselves. Gonna take some time to get out of the crosshairs for the "click bait" news outlets.
There are a lot of 'incidents' we never hear of, including ones with Boeing planes as well, but because of recent scrutiny they're all over the news...
I think the pilot forgot to read back the runway after being cleared to land.
Exactly, noticed as well he didn’t read-back 22L but maybe they let it slide since it was sort of an emergency return who knows,but still very critical piece of info to read back
@@simphiwehlophe9583 Usually emergency aircraft can land wherever they want, so it probably didn't matter.
Yeah, but he said “north of VOCUS” so clearly identifying ILS approach therefore compliant with FAA 77110.65AA 4-8-1 and no need to BosT to add more stress
@@paolobernardi6835 his read back though still wasn’t the best, it was ATC who was confirming VOCUS during the clearance, the pilot didn’t acknowledge or read back VOCUS or any of the info given, he only read back the heading and clear for approach
270 v/s 170 - initially responded with wrong heading.
...and the pilot talking forgot to read back the runway 22L in the given clearance two times.
Do you reference 2:32? Cause I think the transcript is wrong here as the controller said 170 and that's also what have been read back.
@@SirKober
Clearly the script was wrong they both said one seventy.
Ok, this is my new closest to an emergency that I've had as a passenger. I booked a round trip phl-bos-phl, starting on the day of this incident, and my return flight in several days is on AA1146. I was on a different aircraft for the first leg, but still, I'm a little spooked
Get ready for the news to say “NOW AIRBUS IS HAVING ISSUES” even though they didn’t make the engine.
Can't wait to see all the media coverage of this... Oh wait it's an Airbus on AA so no one will care
Not reading back what runway he is cleared to land… 😡 several times
No Boston accented speech from the Tower?
Good chance the controller isn't a Boston native, or maybe they lost the accent when they worked at facilities outside the Boston area. Controllers get moved to different facilities as they progress in their careers.
I don’t think the pilots confirmed the runway when they received landing clearance.
You can tell who flies international :)
Wow !
How Boosy is This Pilot Monitoring !
This Guy, No Doubt, Was a Jfk “controller” Before Become a … Pilot Monitoring.
A “Classic Pain in The Ass” One !
Well, Thankfully, Everything Went Well .
"Yeah. I know..."
It's when the control surfaces and main mounts drop that chaos ensues. No telling what went through that compressor and fired out the back end.
Suck, squeeze, bang, blow...but to where?
vas you gotta do better with them subtitles my man
Well, another Airbus incident, right…
doesn't happen as often as boeing. LMAO
because engine stall is purely Airbus's issue right, totally not the engine supplier and airline itself due to some poor maintnance
What do you mean "another"?
This is the first airbus incident ive heard of in a looong time.
@@davecrupel2817you might want to check out United then..
What??? ATC didn't ask for people on board measured in English stones and amount of fuel measured in dinosaur bodies?
:-) Just kidding. I'm assuming they didn't ask because it was PANPAN not MAYDAY. I doubt they would forget to ask unless it wasn't required. Can someone who really knows comment?
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
US Congress should watch this video and learn what safety measures can be taken.
Probably ingested a screw that popped off a BOEING.
Think know before utter
Not even slightly humorous.
I'm so glad to know that these are the kinds of guys flying us around. Keeping us safe. . . and alive.