Admitting own mistakes and having no problem with talking about them, and at own initiative, is the right (i.e. "normal") behaviour. The other behaviour you described, generally hating to talk negative things about self, is simply wrong. Just a sign of bloated ego.
@@NikolaiUA Were you replying to my post? because I said nothing about behaviour, I just noted that the Captain seemed to make a point of saying that he had also made the MISTAKES that a lot of other pilots admitted to, but not, I think, did one other pilot say he'd committed all of the flying errors that Captain Kelsey admitted to. I thought that Captain Kelsey was trying to diminish the seriousness of flying errors.
5 yrs Air Force. 33 years major commercial experience. Retired now. Re: setting brakes. I've had multiple "oh sh-t moments" when after setting the brakes and looking down, you look up and the jetway moving into position gives you the sensation that you are moving. It does get your attention. And once in the Air Force, as a T-37 instructor, as we were about to stop while being marshalled, all of a sudden the airman who was directing us started running away. I stopped immediately and realized there were billows of black smoke pouring out of the right tailpipe. An oil line broke and was causing the smoke. I set the brakes and shutdown immediately and we both jumped over the front of the jet. Moving a plane on the ground can be a lot more stressful than flying at times!
Former F-15 crew chief but my only scary stories involve one of the first fighter pilots of a certain sex who just couldn't follow a marshal if their life depended on it. We parked under cover but thankfully I only had to deal with one wing strike. I mean he'll, if you can't follow me, there is a yellow line......
This episode brought back a vivid memory. I learned to fly in a Cessna 140 tail dragger and was taught by a former WWII B-17 bomber pilot. My first lesson involved learning rudder modulation just to taxi the aircraft. He taught me that I must master rudder modulation on taxi before ever attempting a landing. Learning that skill was pivotal in so many ways from cross wind landing to grass strip landings. It created a complex muscle memory necessary to develop the "touch" needed to handle a squirrely tail dragger in multiple situations. Thanks for your videos.
Well done. My family and I were on the A380 flight and it's great to better understand what happened. The winds were reportedly near gale force that afternoon and the approach quite bumpy. The second attempt at landing was still bumpy but otherwise uneventful. Also, several commenters above mentioned that the A380 was blown near the right runway edge at touchdown, which could also explain the use of the left rudder. Whatever happened, the pilots acted quickly and remained cool and collected. I suspect they were as grateful to get off that aircraft at the end of the day as we were.
I didn't notice the rudder change on the landing plane until you pointed it out. Thank you for your explanation of the consequences of that in this particular situation.
Aeronautical engineer here (but not a pilot) with a question because you've described this several times. In a crosswind, in order to keep a plane flying straight, you either need to be in a crab, or input cross-controls (left wing down in this case). But when you talk about taking out the crab in a large, 4-engine aircraft (e.g. 747 or A380), you need to keep the wings level, but you add some right rudder to straighten out the plane. This would point the nose down the runway, but would also start a skidding turn if you don't get the wheels down right away. Could it be the case that this pilot put in the right rudder, but kept floating, so he started to steer himself off centerline? Maybe the left rudder input was a last-ditch effort to keep him over the runway?
15 July 2023 datestamp - Google shows that UK Met Office had storm warning in effect - would have been unusually challenging conditions. Well, maybe not so unusual for a UK airport … kudos to the crew for not screwing it up with a pod/wing/tail strike trifecta, and instead pulling off a text book go around.
@agmessier, I fly similar aircraft and your observation is completely correct. If you made a rudder input (in this case to the right) while in the air the airplane would yaw right to align with the runway but the crosswind would push the aircraft sideways across the runway (in this case to the right). If your aircraft has sufficient under wing clearance you could use the ailerons to bank the aircraft in the opposite direction (in this case to the left). This would counter the crosswind and keep the airplane over the runway (flying in a "slip"). The landing could than be made with these "crosswind correction" control inputs maintained. Unfortunately, many large aircraft, especially aircraft with engines under the wing, don't have enough ground clearance, under the wing, to make the required aileron input and lower the upwind wing. If you try and land like this you might drag a wingtip or have a pod strike. The other technique that is used is to maintain the crab angle into the wind until just before the main wheels touch (as these pilots did) and then apply the rudder correction required to line up with the runway (the part they didn't do). Some will even wait until the mains actually touch the runway before making the required rudder input. This technique takes a bit of practice to get right and pilots that are new to the larger aircraft may become quite nervous getting so close to the ground before finally straightening the aircraft out with rudder just as its touching down. Adding to the difficulty is the fact that this is also the time when the pilot is "flaring" the aircraft to reduce the decent rate for touchdown. So now the pilot must divide their attention between getting the flare input on the elevator right and getting the rudder input correct to straighten out the airplane. Then when you consider that the windspeeds are most likely changing all the way down to the ground requiring continuous variations of control inputs it should be pretty easy to see how much of a workload the pilot is dealing with.
Old pilot here. I loved flying with a crosswind. Challenging to say the least. One, most manuals will tell you the max bank angle the plane can take before wing tip hits ground. Two, I used two methods during xwinds: a, about a half mile out, put in control inputs to keep the plane down center line. By the time you flare, you already have a feel for necessary inputs. If you wait to flare, like most pilots I’ve flown with, rudder first then aileron or simultaneous. At this point it’s all about reaction timing. A lot of variables ( wing, rudder, elevator, throttle, pitch picture…..). Just say’n. Good preparation is key. Good presentation. Fly Safe.
A bit more on the A380 landing: I've seen the SESMA (Special Event Search and Master Analysis) trace and spoken to the pilot flying at the time (a colleague) a gust hit at the wrong time, hence the float and was going outside of the touchdown zone. The pilot had already elected to go around and was using left rudder to stay on the paved surface (you can see the right wing gear was pretty much on the runway edge marking at the point of touchdown) and to prevent a drift further downwind. Was not a mistake, a deliberate act to stay on the runway and maintain the runway track.
12:10 Kelsey, if you ever happen to be in Frankfurt anytime soon: the visitor center in Terminal 1 has a video game where you can marshall an aircraft into position by using such wands (at least kind of). The game is thrown onto the wall by a projector to literally get the big picture. There is also a VR ride where you can ride on the baggage transport system with the seats moving in sync with the VR video.
I recently saw a video posted by a travel vlogger where he flew on Lufthansa via Frankfurt in part to check out their snazzy First Class lounge. Knowing how much Kelsey loves free food, he would totally love Lufthansa's lounge there!
Kelsey keeping us all in suspense over his new additional stripe, not once has he said anything. But we all keep commenting about it. Kelsey it’s about time you announced it!! Be proud, we are and it’s not our achievement 🤣
@@Soundbrigade Ha ha ! My two favorite plane disaster channels. Nothing ever happened that upset me when I was flying but I'll admit if I had been on that plane that did the go around I'd be a little nervous about the pilot's ability to land that plane after coming in sideways and snapping around to the left. Now that I know what caused it it would bother me less than not knowing how it happened.
@@djg5950 Both Kelsey and Petter explains stuff so good that I feel very much safer now, but still when encounting turbulence or heavy sidewinds when landing or taking off, I am scared to death. I simply am too scared to fly and still, the Atlantic ocean separates me from half of my family.
@@Soundbrigade Look at it this way: An accident rarely happens even in strong winds or icy conditions. It's riskier to be on the roadways in an automobile. I bet you risk your life every day by driving ?
@@djg5950 I know and am full aware of that. We were in an accident a few years ago when our car started to slide uncontrollable due to a few inches of rain on the road - it just came out of the blue. But still I I don't like heights, I don't like snakes, I don't like liver and I don't like flying.
I only fly a C152, but I ran into a situation a couple days ago where I had a crosswind and didn't keep my wing low into the wind. The wind pushed me off the edge of the runway, and my left gear dropped off the edge and clipped a runway light. Fortunately I was able to correct in a hurry, got the aircraft back off the ground and saved what could have been a really bad day. I practice, practice, practice so that when something happens, muscle memory takes over and saves the day. This crap happens and it helps to stay on top of training and practice so that you react properly the instant it happens. I love watching these videos and seeing all the different things that can happen, so that if and when it happens to me, I can react properly. Thanks Kelsey for posting this stuff!!
Just flew home last night. Long story short, we were trying to land when the plane suddenly aborted the landing and ascended. The captain came over the intercom and stated there was a warning light and we needed to re-approach. People were stressing about this, but I wasn’t…thanks to Kelsey’s videos! Thank you, Kelsey, for demystifying flying for me. I was able to stay calm because of you!
stressing over planes is so weird... like here is the world's safest mode of transportation, where every step taken is subject to 23 different regulations, where the people driving you are thoroughly trained, regularly retrained and extremely experienced, and where a report is written even if something is just remotely close to happening. let's stress over safety
I always love Kelsey’s videos. As an aviation and flight sim enthusiast, there’s ALWAYS something to learn in every video, regardless of topic. I know we’re at a video every other week now. I actually formed my Sunday routine around the release of the videos. So today, my normal Sunday routine feels great!
Never a dull moment! Especially landing in strong, gusty crosswinds where suddenly, there can be a LOT of stuff happening all at once! Thanks for sharing.
Several years ago we were on an Alaska Air flight from PVR into SFO at 23:30 on a rainy NYE with a gusting 30+ degree crosswind. The pilot was crabbing the plane about 15-25 degrees from what I could guess from the runway lights. The wings were rocking pretty severely from the gusts and when the pilot straightened out the plane to touchdown on the slick runway, the wind suddenly died way back and the plane dropped about 10 feet and hit the runway HARD on the main gear. After the initial exclamatory noises from the passengers, applause broke out as just about everyone knew this was a very difficult landing….and were happy to be safely on the ground. The plane, with the same crew, was supposed to continue up the coast that night to Seattle and eventually Anchorage. As we were deplaning I heard a FA mutter to another, “Great, now we’re going to have to sit here for hours while they inspect the landing gear!”
Safety tip for Fire Engine drivers: When driving through a red light Code-3 slow slightly, proceed with caution and hold your foot off the brake until you are through the intersection, then ad power again. Yo never know when someone will not grant you the right of way. Remember, all your red light are doing is letting people know you are coming and are asking for the right of way.
Thank you. I love this type of video where you explain what has or hasn't happened. I like the fact you don't bad mouth individuals and give what may have happened.
You said, if the marshaller is running away from you, stop. Reminds me of a T-shirt message, "Bomb Demolition Technician . . . if you see me running, follow as quickly as you can"
Well I figure Boeing does and will do just fine. Windy skies are full of their plans 24/7. Trying to beat a downed dog that has provided amazing aviation breakthroughs is "armchair insight "at best.
Your theory about the A380 rudder inputs makes sense. Another one that came to mind in the first place is that because of the extended flare while keeping right rudder input and some degree of crab they found themselves drifting to the right, maybe due to a sudden gust, the pilot flying then tried to return to the centerlne by inputting left rudder, he overdid it, he then violently input right rudder making matters worse, the rest is history: go around. Regarding the National A330 hitting the pole, the marshalling act looked pretty disorganized, to say it in a polite way and my first thought was that this appeared to be taking place at a non first world airport, I googled it and bingo!: St. Kitts airport, Eastern Caribbean.
Yup, that crosswind was pushing him off the paved runway, pilot didn't dare input with ailerons as then the engine pod might strike, so inputted left rudder to get the ship back over to the left center, but that didn't quite work out. Oh, well.
Absolutely the best save I hav ever seen of an aircraft near out of control. The pilot kept full control of the situation by keeping the wings FLAT to the runway.. absolutely use of controls and in particular the RUDDER! Bravo! Sometimes you need to make a seeming inappropriate motion ..like left rudder to compensate for FUEL SLOSH. Caused by CENTRIFUGAL force of the fuel in the tanks
RE: Ground Crew Running Away - I saw an interview with a F-35 test pilot and he was one of the first to demonstrate the VTOL. He said as he was descending, he glanced at the crowd and no one was running,so he continued. 😂
The collision videos (while using handlers) always surprise me, because while driving a vehicle I still look when directed by someone (or a signaling device) just to be certain I'm not going to hit someone or something. I've seen people wave traffic into all kinds of...stuff.
Natural instinct, I do the same. But these large aircraft are not cars, you can't see the wingtips from the flight deck and must depend on various other aviation specific rules and methodologies inclusive of marshalers.
I love that you admit your mistakes. In trucking school we had a fellow students who is helping other drivers learn. He was extremely good from day one. We went to our companies add a couple months later I heard that is soon as his apprenticeship was over and he got his first load.. he pulled into a truck stop got fuel and went inside. He forgot to set his brakes at the truck rolled forward and down over a bank . We think that ended his career but no one knows. But the point is that anyone can make mistakes. The people who claim they don't and criticize others are universally the worst of what they're doing 20 years later I still double-check my parking brakes every time I get out of the truck
Great example of what I call "rudder lock" created, as you say, with the pilot jamming both feet onto pedals during that last second (probly 2 secs) fight to land in a cross wind. You really nailed it by saying as the pilot reduces the right pedal input to let the nose slide left onto the center line, and the left foot takes the rudder the opposite direction. Ive taught tailwheel endorsements for decades and always suggest the stressed out student to "tap dance" (slight upper foot movement, VERY light contact) with both feet on the pedals somewhere prior to the final phase of the landings. Its just a muscle memory thing to program the brain to use the feet independently and appropriate for maintaining the centerline. Easier said than done! Great channel Kelsey!!
That marshal starts running instead of signaling to stop. That was a total save himself and no one else type of move. Like Michael in that episode of The Office with the fire. LOL
That's how people are in certain parts of the world. They don't care about anyone other than themselves - it's their culture. So if anything starts to go wrong, your only clue is them running away and not doing their job.
If that were the case, why does he run toward the falling pole? Why does he turn around on the other side of the cart and hold his wands up to the pilots again? What I see is someone who is holding up the "stop" signal, but the plane is still rolling so he thinks "oh the pilots can't see me" so he runs farther back (not running away) and holds up the signal again but by then its too late. Take a look at it again- when he turns around on the other side of the cart, you can see the STOP signal. It's a bit of a dance out there, trying to stay in position while the plane's moving around. You have to walk at just the right speed, and sometimes you get into that zone where the pilots can't see you, and it's second nature to check your position when they stop or start doing something you don't expect.
@@oddtom The dude runs away and then turns around to give the stop signal. By then it's too late. The other two rampers were jumping up and down trying to get him to signal stop.
@@oddtom The first sign before he started running looked to me more like a right turn before he started running and the second one while he was running seemed to me like a stop over his head to the back. The video is certainly too short to really see what was shown to the pilot and when. From what I was able to see, it appears that they first tried to turn him in front of the pole. When they didn't turn aggressively enough to clear the pole, the guys on the ground started running and the backwards stop sign popped up. That is at least how it looks to me. If anyone comes across an official report that would be wonderful to get more insight.
That hovering foot over the rudder pedal, you can do that in your car driving as you approach a busy situation like fast-moving intersection - if you have your foot just touching then A. your response time is quicker by a fraction of a second, B. your control of your braking is better, how much brake input because your foot "knows" where the pedal is. Fractions of a second are important: 40 mph is 60 feet per second. So going through an intersection at 40mph, saving 1/6 of a second by having your foot hovering over the brake, stops you 10 feet sooner (1/6 x 60ft), which could be 10 feet of crash.
These videos give me a new found appreciation for all my commercial flights that went smoothly. I'm curious, if I wanted to thank the crew for keeping it textbook when I am disembarking, is there a simple way to say that other than "Thank you"? I just want them to know I appreciate their hard work getting me to where I need to be without incident. Thanks!
Oddly enough, I also like the landings when the entire passenger cabin erupts into cheers when the plane makes it onto the ground in one piece, in more or less a straight line. Experienced flyers can feel the unusual directions the plane is moving and some of the back-and-forth maneuvers to straighten out the landing, and we appreciate the skill it takes to make a tricky landing work.
Sometimes I am really upset about losing my driver's license. I would likely fail my physical. 74Gear the pilot does a great job of telling us about flying a heavy. For young pilots it is better for their career to learn how to fly an old DC-4 or DC-6 than it is for them to fly a small fast Learjet. A large part of that is there are demands on a pilot steering a 100 ft. or more wing on the ground that are not there when steering 40ft on the ground.
I used to build the lower Rudder and Tab on the dash 8 models of the 747. My badge number appears on 102 builds. I like that your channel features them. It’s an honor to have been a part of that aircraft
Captain Kelsey, your assessment of difficult landing situations like this give me confidence in your skills as well as so many other experienced pilots out there. Landing an aircraft, especially one as large as an A-380 or a 747 is NOT trivial even for the most experienced pilots!!
Yay for Kelsey, its great to hear the comments of an experienced pilot on both the good and bad decisions that pilots make. Its also good to hear that landing (indeed flying) is not an exact science and is often down to the pilots decisions of what is OK and what could be dangerous. If only vehicle drivers on the roads had a fraction of the skills that pilots have then we would all be safer.
Kelsy, I flew into the old HK airport (Kai Tak) on a China Airlines 747 and in addition to the approach being scary the pilot did several right-left swings to the point I was sure he was going to perform a ground loop on the next set of swings and I'm sure you know a 747 doesn't do them well and end up in one piece. There was a retired former USAF member sitting by me, and his eyes were as big as saucers. I spoke with him after the seat belt sign was off, and he thought the same thing. I spoke to the flight attendant as we deplaned, and she said, "The runway was wet." Funnily enough, the pilot performed the same maneuver when we landed in Taipei but not as severe. Wet runway, yea, right!
@08turboSS: Well, the runway looked dry to me, it wasn't raining as we made the approach and as I said, the same thing happened in Taipei and it hadn't rained there either.
Hey captain Kelsey! I have been watching you since ever I was a student pilot I learned a lot from you and you was a great motivator throughout the years i wanted to thank you so much for all your help. Am so proud to see you with those 4 stripes😍
Great explanation of the two feet on the rudder scenario. When I land my little Cherokee in any significant crosswind I pretty much take the upwind foot completely off the rudder. Windsock points to which foot should be on the pedal. If I over correct I just back off the pressure and the aircraft "acts" as if I had pressed the opposite pedal. Taking the one rudder pedal out of the equation dramatically helps rudder modulation (In my 500 hour PPL experience anyway). Glad to see that process is transferable to much bigger aircraft.
I'm a trucker and on second video it has even happened to us to forget setting brakes hahaha...I love your honesty at even your own mistakes it makes you human.Again I watched a long long time with 3 stripes and makes me so happy to see 4 now your awesome keep sending content !!
Notice that that left rudder input that causes the issue is using the lower part of the rudder only. I think that tells us that it isn't a pilot input, but is the FBW. The lower rudder is very active during approach when there's a gusty crosswind. It sees all of the wind changes as sideslip, and it hates sideslip and is aggressive about getting rid of it. I don't ever recall it being an issue so close to the ground, but a pilot input would have move both rudder panels, not just the lower.
I've seen a Marshaller drop their wands on the ground and cross their arms because the flight deck wasn't paying attention. They were about to take out the jet bridge. You could hear the screaming up the jet bridge from the Lead about the importance of paying attention. Cap and FO came out into the gate area looking down at the floor and not making eye contact. The Station manager even showed up and chewed flight AND ground crews out. This was before everyone in the world had a camera phone...
A colleague did that in EWR with a 767 crew who wouldn't slow down coming into the gate, threw down his wands dramatically and walked away. He couldn't keep walking backwards fast enough to stay in sight from the flight deck...fortunately the pilots had the sense to stop rolling and wait, before getting in a fight with the jetbridge or a row of baggage carts 😅
that's when static friction turns into gliding friction. If you paid attention in class you know that gliding friction is always less then static.... in this case it keeps the tyres on the rims :-)
You're a captain!!! I've watched your videos before and recently watched again and noticed some videos had a different number of bars on your shoulders. I had to check back and noticed the change just a couple months ago. Congrats! Your videos are always good.
At 11:11 the starboard marshaller squats because he appears to be trying to see the other side of the plane. He's probably thinking there is way too much room on his side, something is wrong. He then realizes it IS going wrong. After he stands up he starts signaling emergency stop. You can see him slapping the wands together. Along with giving directions to the pilot the lead marshaller is responsible for watching the "wing walkers" and relaying a stop signal. It appears the lead marshaller sees the impending impact and is giving a strong starboard with his wands instead of signaling stop. Then RUN!
To me , the Lead Marshaller committed severe dereliction of duty - not being way out front to be able to give pilots enough warning, but just decided to run away ?? wtf?????
Great explanations, Cap't. I remember the first time my flight instructor let me land the plane. I got caught in ground effect and couldn't get the silly plane to touch down. So, he took control and showed me how to handle that in our weird situation. Lessons learned. This A380 pilot isn't flying that beast because he doesn't know what he's doing, so people should lighten up on the armchair critiques of his capabilities. Never judge a person by their weakest moment (or one bad landing). Thanks for all you do, sir!! Safe travels!
Great explanation of first landing. Appreciate your knowledge and professionalism as well. You didn't bash the pilot and offered reasons why he did what he did and gave him credit for "saving it." Enjoy your videos. Keep it up!
10 years airforce. 8 years commercial. 10 years Nasa orbiter pilot. I too have made similar mistakes. Even at this level of flight, these rudimentary errors happens to the best of us.
I am not the expert here, but i think with the a380 landing when it first put in right rudder it started floating eather because they were carrying extra speed or got an extra windgust. When they were floating with the plane straightened out the plane got blown to the right side of the runway, that is why they put left rudder in to get the plane back to the centerline and not go off the runway. The best option would've been to do a goaround when they started to float and blown to the right side of the runway.
Hey Kelsey, I'm an old codger now....I flew the military planes for about 20 years, only got about 8,000 hours, mostly in the B-47 and the old B-52....the F model and finally, the D model. I probably would have damaged the outboard engines on those aircraft had it not been for the outriggers. I was truly amazed at the beating those outriggers could take and still appear to be quite functional.
My flying experience is from a commercial passenger seat. But I just want to tell you I have spent hours watching your videos and enjoying hearing the stories. Congrats on the new stripe.
I love how calm she is. Most reaction videos on UA-cam should be called "over reaction" videos because they're deliberately over acting just to get more views. Especially if it's a black dude pretending to like heavy metal music; making faces like Macaulay Culkin in "Home Alone". It's refreshing to see an actual GENUINE reaction.
Long winded comment alert: I am a total oxymoron of a person. Student LTA pilot, always watching airplane traffic on radar all over the world, highly interested in different types of airplanes (cargo, pax, and military) and watching videos like yours - but I have no interest in flying fixed wing, and am an insanely anxious passenger. I’m here to thank you for your content. I’ve been binging your videos for the last 5 days and started following you on all platforms. But I noticed your forum doesn’t exist anymore - what do you need to get that back up? Or did you close it for good? Thank you for all you do and all you teach, I hope you never stop. I wanna see more of your pilot vlogs!
New to your channel. I can't help it I have been binge watching. I am not an aviator yet as a life long, avid Sailor I love aviation tech, flying skills etc. It would be an understatement to say sailing and flying have similarities. More like, they have numerous parrallels. When I mentor Green helmsman I put huge friction on the tiller or wheel restrictor. A term I coined says a lot about where I am going with this reply: "why are novice helmsman 'tiller wigglers' ? It's because they keep trying to compensate for their constant overcompensation !". Your talking about your foot work technique on the rudder peddles was so spot on for me ;)
Still wondering if you were piloting that 747 Cargolux cargo planne that had an engine fire after take off. I thought it sounded a bit like you - especially the calmness and professional conversation form the pilots communicating about getting the plane back on the ground. Whether it was you or not (and you might not be able to talk about it) I love your videos and the imformation you provde. That and you sense of humility. Congrats again about your captain promotion.💜💜
I learned to fly in a Cessna 150 and a Navy trainer at the Mayport Naval Flying Club back in the early 70's. We almost always had a 15 mph+ crosswind coming off the ocean there. I know it's no comparison to a heavily-laden jet with 100+ passengers but with Mayport's military-jet-arrestor cables at both ends of the runway, it could be a real challenge. I soloed after 6 hrs and won both the precision bombing and landing contest but while touch-and-goes were always a really fun experience at least I was alone. I can't imagine being responsible for 100+ passengers. Must be very disconcerting for passengers to see they were perpendicular to the runway 50' off the ground.
Another great call on the pilots use of the rudder! We"ve all "tensed up" on a stiff crosswind landing. It doesn't matter if you're flying a C-172 or a B-747, a crosswind with gusts will blow you around faster than you can correct for it. I agree the pilots made a really good recovery and go around, so I put this one in the "no harm, no foul" category! As for the other guys...That poor wingtip! It didn't deserve it! And...Congrats on your fourth stripe Capt. Kelsey! You've earned it
Look at precisely 0:35. The right white solid line is under engine No3, and the main gear is to the right of the centreline, on the unmarked grey concrete. The extended flare had a slight right bank all the time from 0:29 to 0:32 which amplified the right drift. The left boot of rudder was a vain attempt to hold it before the GA started.
You’re such an intelligently meticulous pilot who I’m certain would pull magic outta the sky anytime you needed to. That’s exactly how I interpret your experiential knowledge in these videos. You could be my captain any day since I only want the crème, ya know. Well done, King 😎
I have a set of wing walker wands that I carried with me in the truck back when I used to drive trucks for a living. I used them for two purposes. First was if I was at a truck stop helping somebody with backing into a spot, they could see me easier, and if I needed them to stop, I could sound the alarm on it rather than yell and hope they heard me. Second was some delivery facilities have me backing into a dark building, so I would set them down on the ground right by either side of the dock, so I could see where I was supposed to aim the trailer.
I like to think his channel played a part in selecting him to replace a retiree. Explaining what goes wrong and how it could be done correctly without pointing fingers, that is an example of good CRM.
I can tell you, you keep looking to your left for a while till you realise … ‘oh yea, I’m the captain’. I’ve over twenty years in the left seat now and still remember my first few months with ‘imposter syndrome’.
Lol, I know what you mean. Kelsey comes across like the goofy kid from elementary school and the uninitiated think WHUH! But when he gets into Captain mode, Kelsey is definitely the one I would be the most comfortable with sitting up front…even if he is dreaming about marshalling with his neon light sabres and suit on! 😂💕
I was a passenger on a hard landing yesterday Airbus 321. Your explaining the first plane gave me a possible explaination for the event. It seemed we covered a lot of runway and he simply may have wanted the plane on the ground, now. He certainly started all the souls sitting behind him, but we were all fine 😁
I think the Airbus pilot may have stabbed left rudder because, with the float and crosswind, once the nose was pointing down the runway it probably started drifting right. On top of that, the left wing started coming up. I think the right drift and right induced roll added up to make his brain scream "Go Left!" and he got a little cross-controlled in the stress.
Just a couple/few quick comments (to help the logarithm). 1. Your videos are interesting, entertaining and educational. 2. Your face expressions very often amuse me.3. Unlike many other viewers, these videos scare me to fly (just a little) because now I know how many things can go wrong. 4. I'm now ok with not taking that ground school course I signed up for in the 70's because the amount of info you pilots have to learn is probably more info than my little head has accumulated in 67 years of life.
Kelsey I love the fact that you will openly say "yeah I've made that mistake too," too many people would pretend/ignore their mistakes
Well he seems to be admitting to lots of mistakes.
Admitting own mistakes and having no problem with talking about them, and at own initiative, is the right (i.e. "normal") behaviour.
The other behaviour you described, generally hating to talk negative things about self, is simply wrong. Just a sign of bloated ego.
@@NikolaiUA Were you replying to my post? because I said nothing about behaviour, I just noted that the Captain seemed to make a point of saying that he had also made the MISTAKES that a lot of other pilots admitted to, but not, I think, did one other pilot say he'd committed all of the flying errors that Captain Kelsey admitted to. I thought that Captain Kelsey was trying to diminish the seriousness of flying errors.
@@davidtuer5825Nope, that was an addition to the OP's post
As a low time PPL, thanks for the tip on the rudder.
5 yrs Air Force. 33 years major commercial experience. Retired now. Re: setting brakes. I've had multiple "oh sh-t moments" when after setting the brakes and looking down, you look up and the jetway moving into position gives you the sensation that you are moving. It does get your attention. And once in the Air Force, as a T-37 instructor, as we were about to stop while being marshalled, all of a sudden the airman who was directing us started running away. I stopped immediately and realized there were billows of black smoke pouring out of the right tailpipe. An oil line broke and was causing the smoke. I set the brakes and shutdown immediately and we both jumped over the front of the jet. Moving a plane on the ground can be a lot more stressful than flying at times!
29yrs USAF, with numerous scary stories with our 737 rides to Area51.
Care to share?
Care to share?
@@sarge420yea sorry but the rules are you can't post a comment like that without citations! Please?😂😂
Former F-15 crew chief but my only scary stories involve one of the first fighter pilots of a certain sex who just couldn't follow a marshal if their life depended on it. We parked under cover but thankfully I only had to deal with one wing strike. I mean he'll, if you can't follow me, there is a yellow line......
Thanks Captain, good to see you back on the Tube again. I know the world is good if I see you on a Sunday morning.
Sunday evening 🇬🇧👍🏻
@@fredfred2363SUNDAY MORNING - he’s an American and so am I.
This episode brought back a vivid memory. I learned to fly in a Cessna 140 tail dragger and was taught by a former WWII B-17 bomber pilot. My first lesson involved learning rudder modulation just to taxi the aircraft. He taught me that I must master rudder modulation on taxi before ever attempting a landing. Learning that skill was pivotal in so many ways from cross wind landing to grass strip landings. It created a complex muscle memory necessary to develop the "touch" needed to handle a squirrely tail dragger in multiple situations. Thanks for your videos.
Well done. My family and I were on the A380 flight and it's great to better understand what happened. The winds were reportedly near gale force that afternoon and the approach quite bumpy. The second attempt at landing was still bumpy but otherwise uneventful. Also, several commenters above mentioned that the A380 was blown near the right runway edge at touchdown, which could also explain the use of the left rudder. Whatever happened, the pilots acted quickly and remained cool and collected. I suspect they were as grateful to get off that aircraft at the end of the day as we were.
I didn't notice the rudder change on the landing plane until you pointed it out. Thank you for your explanation of the consequences of that in this particular situation.
Aeronautical engineer here (but not a pilot) with a question because you've described this several times. In a crosswind, in order to keep a plane flying straight, you either need to be in a crab, or input cross-controls (left wing down in this case). But when you talk about taking out the crab in a large, 4-engine aircraft (e.g. 747 or A380), you need to keep the wings level, but you add some right rudder to straighten out the plane. This would point the nose down the runway, but would also start a skidding turn if you don't get the wheels down right away.
Could it be the case that this pilot put in the right rudder, but kept floating, so he started to steer himself off centerline? Maybe the left rudder input was a last-ditch effort to keep him over the runway?
Exactly my thoughts 👍🏻
15 July 2023 datestamp - Google shows that UK Met Office had storm warning in effect - would have been unusually challenging conditions. Well, maybe not so unusual for a UK airport … kudos to the crew for not screwing it up with a pod/wing/tail strike trifecta, and instead pulling off a text book go around.
@agmessier, I fly similar aircraft and your observation is completely correct. If you made a rudder input (in this case to the right) while in the air the airplane would yaw right to align with the runway but the crosswind would push the aircraft sideways across the runway (in this case to the right). If your aircraft has sufficient under wing clearance you could use the ailerons to bank the aircraft in the opposite direction (in this case to the left). This would counter the crosswind and keep the airplane over the runway (flying in a "slip"). The landing could than be made with these "crosswind correction" control inputs maintained. Unfortunately, many large aircraft, especially aircraft with engines under the wing, don't have enough ground clearance, under the wing, to make the required aileron input and lower the upwind wing. If you try and land like this you might drag a wingtip or have a pod strike. The other technique that is used is to maintain the crab angle into the wind until just before the main wheels touch (as these pilots did) and then apply the rudder correction required to line up with the runway (the part they didn't do). Some will even wait until the mains actually touch the runway before making the required rudder input. This technique takes a bit of practice to get right and pilots that are new to the larger aircraft may become quite nervous getting so close to the ground before finally straightening the aircraft out with rudder just as its touching down. Adding to the difficulty is the fact that this is also the time when the pilot is "flaring" the aircraft to reduce the decent rate for touchdown. So now the pilot must divide their attention between getting the flare input on the elevator right and getting the rudder input correct to straighten out the airplane. Then when you consider that the windspeeds are most likely changing all the way down to the ground requiring continuous variations of control inputs it should be pretty easy to see how much of a workload the pilot is dealing with.
That was my thought too, they decrabed too early and started to drift off the centerline and tried to correct it
Old pilot here. I loved flying with a crosswind. Challenging to say the least. One, most manuals will tell you the max bank angle the plane can take before wing tip hits ground. Two, I used two methods during xwinds: a, about a half mile out, put in control inputs to keep the plane down center line. By the time you flare, you already have a feel for necessary inputs. If you wait to flare, like most pilots I’ve flown with, rudder first then aileron or simultaneous. At this point it’s all about reaction timing. A lot of variables ( wing, rudder, elevator, throttle, pitch picture…..). Just say’n. Good preparation is key. Good presentation. Fly Safe.
I need to see Kelsey doing his light saber dance marshalling in a jet 🤣 Great video, Kels! Happy Sunday ❤
What color jumpsuit would he be in? I’d say fluorescent orange.😅😅
@@ba946x4 or Lime Green
@@ba946x4I’d prefer him in his pilot uniform and a bright orange and yellow vest lol
@@ba946x4 He would be the construction worker.
I going to buy him some just to see that . 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
14:27 Kelsey subtlety confirms his captain status. Congrats Kelsey.
I guess that’s about all the acknowledgment we are going to get 😜
I thought I saw an extra stripe on each shoulder since I last watched Kelsey!
Wonder if he got a congrats from Mentour?
I don't like subtlety, I want a grand announcement.
He is humble.
A bit more on the A380 landing: I've seen the SESMA (Special Event Search and Master Analysis) trace and spoken to the pilot flying at the time (a colleague) a gust hit at the wrong time, hence the float and was going outside of the touchdown zone. The pilot had already elected to go around and was using left rudder to stay on the paved surface (you can see the right wing gear was pretty much on the runway edge marking at the point of touchdown) and to prevent a drift further downwind. Was not a mistake, a deliberate act to stay on the runway and maintain the runway track.
12:10 Kelsey, if you ever happen to be in Frankfurt anytime soon: the visitor center in Terminal 1 has a video game where you can marshall an aircraft into position by using such wands (at least kind of). The game is thrown onto the wall by a projector to literally get the big picture.
There is also a VR ride where you can ride on the baggage transport system with the seats moving in sync with the VR video.
Hello
Bucket list.
@@TeresaSanderfordHello!!!
Do they hire you on the spot if you pass the marshalling game? 😅
I recently saw a video posted by a travel vlogger where he flew on Lufthansa via Frankfurt in part to check out their snazzy First Class lounge. Knowing how much Kelsey loves free food, he would totally love Lufthansa's lounge there!
I see 4 stripes on your epaulets, congratulations Captain Kelsey, you deserve it. 👍👍
He has been harboring those for the past month from what I was able to watch. 👍🏼
I noticed the same thing. Kelsey has a 4 stripers. He's on his way to being a Condor pilot 😊😊
🥰🥰🥰🥳🥳🥳👍🏼👍🏼❣️❣️
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy You!!!!
That’s me quietly saying wow, whilst trying to be quiet, my followers enjoy my chilled out streams 😎✈️😁
Cool as a cucumber 😎
Wow.
Kelsey keeping us all in suspense over his new additional stripe, not once has he said anything. But we all keep commenting about it. Kelsey it’s about time you announced it!! Be proud, we are and it’s not our achievement 🤣
Love that you're open with your mistakes, makes me feel better when i have done a shity landing. Like im not alone, even the pros have done it
Yes! Your channel has really just made my flying anxiety go to zero. Thank you K!
OK, now watch Mentour Pilot’s videos go retrieve that anxiety ….😊
@@Soundbrigade Ha ha ! My two favorite plane disaster channels. Nothing ever happened that upset me when I was flying but I'll admit if I had been on that plane that did the go around I'd be a little nervous about the pilot's ability to land that plane after coming in sideways and snapping around to the left. Now that I know what caused it it would bother me less than not knowing how it happened.
@@djg5950 Both Kelsey and Petter explains stuff so good that I feel very much safer now, but still when encounting turbulence or heavy sidewinds when landing or taking off, I am scared to death. I simply am too scared to fly and still, the Atlantic ocean separates me from half of my family.
@@Soundbrigade Look at it this way: An accident rarely happens even in strong winds or icy conditions. It's riskier to be on the roadways in an automobile. I bet you risk your life every day by driving ?
@@djg5950 I know and am full aware of that. We were in an accident a few years ago when our car started to slide uncontrollable due to a few inches of rain on the road - it just came out of the blue.
But still I I don't like heights, I don't like snakes, I don't like liver and I don't like flying.
What a great advice Kelsey. When the guy who’s helping you starts running away, you should stop. Just stop” 😂
It's kind of a big hint that something might not be going quite right... :)
I only fly a C152, but I ran into a situation a couple days ago where I had a crosswind and didn't keep my wing low into the wind. The wind pushed me off the edge of the runway, and my left gear dropped off the edge and clipped a runway light. Fortunately I was able to correct in a hurry, got the aircraft back off the ground and saved what could have been a really bad day. I practice, practice, practice so that when something happens, muscle memory takes over and saves the day. This crap happens and it helps to stay on top of training and practice so that you react properly the instant it happens. I love watching these videos and seeing all the different things that can happen, so that if and when it happens to me, I can react properly. Thanks Kelsey for posting this stuff!!
Thanks for sharing your story too..!!!!
Just flew home last night. Long story short, we were trying to land when the plane suddenly aborted the landing and ascended. The captain came over the intercom and stated there was a warning light and we needed to re-approach. People were stressing about this, but I wasn’t…thanks to Kelsey’s videos! Thank you, Kelsey, for demystifying flying for me. I was able to stay calm because of you!
stressing over planes is so weird... like here is the world's safest mode of transportation, where every step taken is subject to 23 different regulations, where the people driving you are thoroughly trained, regularly retrained and extremely experienced, and where a report is written even if something is just remotely close to happening. let's stress over safety
Thanks! Well done from fellow freight dawg.
I always love Kelsey’s videos. As an aviation and flight sim enthusiast, there’s ALWAYS something to learn in every video, regardless of topic. I know we’re at a video every other week now. I actually formed my Sunday routine around the release of the videos. So today, my normal Sunday routine feels great!
Never a dull moment! Especially landing in strong, gusty crosswinds where suddenly, there can be a LOT of stuff happening all at once! Thanks for sharing.
Several years ago we were on an Alaska Air flight from PVR into SFO at 23:30 on a rainy NYE with a gusting 30+ degree crosswind. The pilot was crabbing the plane about 15-25 degrees from what I could guess from the runway lights. The wings were rocking pretty severely from the gusts and when the pilot straightened out the plane to touchdown on the slick runway, the wind suddenly died way back and the plane dropped about 10 feet and hit the runway HARD on the main gear.
After the initial exclamatory noises from the passengers, applause broke out as just about everyone knew this was a very difficult landing….and were happy to be safely on the ground. The plane, with the same crew, was supposed to continue up the coast that night to Seattle and eventually Anchorage.
As we were deplaning I heard a FA mutter to another, “Great, now we’re going to have to sit here for hours while they inspect the landing gear!”
Safety tip for Fire Engine drivers: When driving through a red light Code-3 slow slightly, proceed with caution and hold your foot off the brake until you are through the intersection, then ad power again. Yo never know when someone will not grant you the right of way. Remember, all your red light are doing is letting people know you are coming and are asking for the right of way.
Thank you. I love this type of video where you explain what has or hasn't happened. I like the fact you don't bad mouth individuals and give what may have happened.
Well done, Kelsey! Congrats on that extra stripe, Captain!!! Wishing you many open blue skies ahead and tailwinds behind!!!
You said, if the marshaller is running away from you, stop. Reminds me of a T-shirt message, "Bomb Demolition Technician . . . if you see me running, follow as quickly as you can"
*I AM A BOMB TECHNICIAN IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING, TRY TO KEEP UP!*
EOD, you gotta love em....
If you are behind the technician when he starts running, then you've been in the wrong spot in the first place xD
@@alukata9763 What in the world makes you think, *they started from "behind"!? ;)*
@@mderline4412 the "follow"
Shout out to the engineers that built the landing gear on that A380.
Sure, and all hail to the engine designer, it needed an insane amount of power to airborn this giant at such low speed
Thank goodness it's not Boeing it would not have made it
Conversation went:
Engineer: "how strong should the main gear be?"
Airbus CEO: "yes"
@@trollmastermike52845 They would install a plug door on the main gear and call it a day
Well I figure Boeing does and will do just fine. Windy skies are full of their plans 24/7. Trying to beat a downed dog that has provided amazing aviation breakthroughs is "armchair insight "at best.
Your theory about the A380 rudder inputs makes sense. Another one that came to mind in the first place is that because of the extended flare while keeping right rudder input and some degree of crab they found themselves drifting to the right, maybe due to a sudden gust, the pilot flying then tried to return to the centerlne by inputting left rudder, he overdid it, he then violently input right rudder making matters worse, the rest is history: go around.
Regarding the National A330 hitting the pole, the marshalling act looked pretty disorganized, to say it in a polite way and my first thought was that this appeared to be taking place at a non first world airport, I googled it and bingo!: St. Kitts airport, Eastern Caribbean.
Yup, that crosswind was pushing him off the paved runway, pilot didn't dare input with ailerons as then the engine pod might strike, so inputted left rudder to get the ship back over to the left center, but that didn't quite work out. Oh, well.
Absolutely the best save I hav ever seen of an aircraft near out of control. The pilot kept full control of the situation by keeping the wings FLAT to the runway.. absolutely use of controls and in particular the RUDDER! Bravo! Sometimes you need to make a seeming inappropriate motion ..like left rudder to compensate for FUEL SLOSH. Caused by CENTRIFUGAL force of the fuel in the tanks
Kelsey - I love your technical analysis of the landing, things that I would never perceive on my own. Thanks!
I love your honesty and humility! You ROCK! 🎉🎉
RE: Ground Crew Running Away - I saw an interview with a F-35 test pilot and he was one of the first to demonstrate the VTOL. He said as he was descending, he glanced at the crowd and no one was running,so he continued. 😂
Hi
The collision videos (while using handlers) always surprise me, because while driving a vehicle I still look when directed by someone (or a signaling device) just to be certain I'm not going to hit someone or something. I've seen people wave traffic into all kinds of...stuff.
Natural instinct, I do the same. But these large aircraft are not cars, you can't see the wingtips from the flight deck and must depend on various other aviation specific rules and methodologies inclusive of marshalers.
does your car have massive wings sticking off the sides? no? ok.
You explaining the complexities of flying explains why pilots do what they do. Thank you.
You’re right it’s better to go around and be safe, then to take a chance
Than take a chance. Then implies you will take the chance
You got promoted to Captain?!?? NICE JOB MAN!!! Congrats!!!
Just realized that happened about 6 episodes ago. Nevertheless, congratulations!! Been following you for a while, you deserve the world dude!
I love that you admit your mistakes.
In trucking school we had a fellow students who is helping other drivers learn. He was extremely good from day one. We went to our companies add a couple months later I heard that is soon as his apprenticeship was over and he got his first load.. he pulled into a truck stop got fuel and went inside. He forgot to set his brakes at the truck rolled forward and down over a bank . We think that ended his career but no one knows. But the point is that anyone can make mistakes. The people who claim they don't and criticize others are universally the worst of what they're doing
20 years later I still double-check my parking brakes every time I get out of the truck
Great to see 4 bars on the shirt. Good on ya! 😊
Great example of what I call "rudder lock" created, as you say, with the pilot jamming both feet onto pedals during that last second (probly 2 secs) fight to land in a cross wind. You really nailed it by saying as the pilot reduces the right pedal input to let the nose slide left onto the center line, and the left foot takes the rudder the opposite direction. Ive taught tailwheel endorsements for decades and always suggest the stressed out student to "tap dance" (slight upper foot movement, VERY light contact) with both feet on the pedals somewhere prior to the final phase of the landings. Its just a muscle memory thing to program the brain to use the feet independently and appropriate for maintaining the centerline. Easier said than done! Great channel Kelsey!!
That marshal starts running instead of signaling to stop. That was a total save himself and no one else type of move. Like Michael in that episode of The Office with the fire. LOL
That's how people are in certain parts of the world. They don't care about anyone other than themselves - it's their culture. So if anything starts to go wrong, your only clue is them running away and not doing their job.
If that were the case, why does he run toward the falling pole? Why does he turn around on the other side of the cart and hold his wands up to the pilots again? What I see is someone who is holding up the "stop" signal, but the plane is still rolling so he thinks "oh the pilots can't see me" so he runs farther back (not running away) and holds up the signal again but by then its too late. Take a look at it again- when he turns around on the other side of the cart, you can see the STOP signal. It's a bit of a dance out there, trying to stay in position while the plane's moving around. You have to walk at just the right speed, and sometimes you get into that zone where the pilots can't see you, and it's second nature to check your position when they stop or start doing something you don't expect.
@@oddtom The dude runs away and then turns around to give the stop signal. By then it's too late. The other two rampers were jumping up and down trying to get him to signal stop.
@@oddtom The first sign before he started running looked to me more like a right turn before he started running and the second one while he was running seemed to me like a stop over his head to the back.
The video is certainly too short to really see what was shown to the pilot and when. From what I was able to see, it appears that they first tried to turn him in front of the pole. When they didn't turn aggressively enough to clear the pole, the guys on the ground started running and the backwards stop sign popped up. That is at least how it looks to me.
If anyone comes across an official report that would be wonderful to get more insight.
@@vanstry Still, if the person who supposed to give you directions startrs running is *very* clear signal to stop.
That hovering foot over the rudder pedal, you can do that in your car driving as you approach a busy situation like fast-moving intersection - if you have your foot just touching then A. your response time is quicker by a fraction of a second, B. your control of your braking is better, how much brake input because your foot "knows" where the pedal is.
Fractions of a second are important: 40 mph is 60 feet per second. So going through an intersection at 40mph, saving 1/6 of a second by having your foot hovering over the brake, stops you 10 feet sooner (1/6 x 60ft), which could be 10 feet of crash.
These videos give me a new found appreciation for all my commercial flights that went smoothly. I'm curious, if I wanted to thank the crew for keeping it textbook when I am disembarking, is there a simple way to say that other than "Thank you"? I just want them to know I appreciate their hard work getting me to where I need to be without incident. Thanks!
“Thank you for not ending up on 74 Gear.”
As well as those crews for the ones that WEREN'T smooth but definitely ended safely!
Thank You is perfect. Those of us in the pointy end want nothing more than a safe successful flight too.
Oddly enough, I also like the landings when the entire passenger cabin erupts into cheers when the plane makes it onto the ground in one piece, in more or less a straight line. Experienced flyers can feel the unusual directions the plane is moving and some of the back-and-forth maneuvers to straighten out the landing, and we appreciate the skill it takes to make a tricky landing work.
Sometimes I am really upset about losing my driver's license. I would likely fail my physical. 74Gear the pilot does a great job of telling us about flying a heavy. For young pilots it is better for their career to learn how to fly an old DC-4 or DC-6 than it is for them to fly a small fast Learjet. A large part of that is there are demands on a pilot steering a 100 ft. or more wing on the ground that are not there when steering 40ft on the ground.
I know it's late, but congratz on your upgrade to Captain! That's incredible!
I used to build the lower Rudder and Tab on the dash 8 models of the 747. My badge number appears on 102 builds. I like that your channel features them. It’s an honor to have been a part of that aircraft
I’ll be watching this twice. First time through, I’m watching your facial expressions. Stay safe, Captain.
"Oh gosh the ground crew is running... We better pick up the pace!" 😂
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂, I can’t 😂😂😂😂.
Hmm. Ground personnel just made sign of the cross and ducked.
😅 😂 @@roadking99jokerst60
Captain Kelsey, your assessment of difficult landing situations like this give me confidence in your skills as well as so many other experienced pilots out there. Landing an aircraft, especially one as large as an A-380 or a 747 is NOT trivial even for the most experienced pilots!!
Yay for Kelsey, its great to hear the comments of an experienced pilot on both the good and bad decisions that pilots make. Its also good to hear that landing (indeed flying) is not an exact science and is often down to the pilots decisions of what is OK and what could be dangerous. If only vehicle drivers on the roads had a fraction of the skills that pilots have then we would all be safer.
Kelsy, I flew into the old HK airport (Kai Tak) on a China Airlines 747 and in addition to the approach being scary the pilot did several right-left swings to the point I was sure he was going to perform a ground loop on the next set of swings and I'm sure you know a 747 doesn't do them well and end up in one piece.
There was a retired former USAF member sitting by me, and his eyes were as big as saucers. I spoke with him after the seat belt sign was off, and he thought the same thing.
I spoke to the flight attendant as we deplaned, and she said, "The runway was wet."
Funnily enough, the pilot performed the same maneuver when we landed in Taipei but not as severe. Wet runway, yea, right!
There's a video on yt of a 747 landing at Kai Tak and nearly burrying the undercarriage in one side.
hydroplaning. its worse at 120kts/130 mph and can cause grnd steering issues.
@08turboSS: Well, the runway looked dry to me, it wasn't raining as we made the approach and as I said, the same thing happened in Taipei and it hadn't rained there either.
Hey captain Kelsey!
I have been watching you since ever I was a student pilot I learned a lot from you and you was a great motivator throughout the years i wanted to thank you so much for all your help.
Am so proud to see you with those 4 stripes😍
Honey, wake up. Captain Kelsey posted again.
Lol
Wow.
I'm up, Dave. Thank you for telling me.
Thanks captain obvious!!
Lmao
As ever, nicely done Kelsey with the sympathetic, explanatory, non-condemning commentary. Good man.
Great explanation of the two feet on the rudder scenario. When I land my little Cherokee in any significant crosswind I pretty much take the upwind foot completely off the rudder. Windsock points to which foot should be on the pedal. If I over correct I just back off the pressure and the aircraft "acts" as if I had pressed the opposite pedal. Taking the one rudder pedal out of the equation dramatically helps rudder modulation (In my 500 hour PPL experience anyway). Glad to see that process is transferable to much bigger aircraft.
I'm a trucker and on second video it has even happened to us to forget setting brakes hahaha...I love your honesty at even your own mistakes it makes you human.Again I watched a long long time with 3 stripes and makes me so happy to see 4 now your awesome keep sending content !!
Thanks for keeping these Sunday videos going. It really is appreciated.
Notice that that left rudder input that causes the issue is using the lower part of the rudder only. I think that tells us that it isn't a pilot input, but is the FBW. The lower rudder is very active during approach when there's a gusty crosswind. It sees all of the wind changes as sideslip, and it hates sideslip and is aggressive about getting rid of it. I don't ever recall it being an issue so close to the ground, but a pilot input would have move both rudder panels, not just the lower.
I've seen a Marshaller drop their wands on the ground and cross their arms because the flight deck wasn't paying attention. They were about to take out the jet bridge. You could hear the screaming up the jet bridge from the Lead about the importance of paying attention. Cap and FO came out into the gate area looking down at the floor and not making eye contact. The Station manager even showed up and chewed flight AND ground crews out. This was before everyone in the world had a camera phone...
A colleague did that in EWR with a 767 crew who wouldn't slow down coming into the gate, threw down his wands dramatically and walked away. He couldn't keep walking backwards fast enough to stay in sight from the flight deck...fortunately the pilots had the sense to stop rolling and wait, before getting in a fight with the jetbridge or a row of baggage carts 😅
If the marshal is running for cover...it's called a clue, to throw out the anchor. 74 Gear, your the best brother. Shalom
How those tyres stay on their rims is incredible.....the side forces must be extreme !!
that's when static friction turns into gliding friction. If you paid attention in class you know that gliding friction is always less then static.... in this case it keeps the tyres on the rims :-)
You're a captain!!! I've watched your videos before and recently watched again and noticed some videos had a different number of bars on your shoulders. I had to check back and noticed the change just a couple months ago. Congrats! Your videos are always good.
At 11:11 the starboard marshaller squats because he appears to be trying to see the other side of the plane. He's probably thinking there is way too much room on his side, something is wrong. He then realizes it IS going wrong. After he stands up he starts signaling emergency stop. You can see him slapping the wands together. Along with giving directions to the pilot the lead marshaller is responsible for watching the "wing walkers" and relaying a stop signal. It appears the lead marshaller sees the impending impact and is giving a strong starboard with his wands instead of signaling stop. Then RUN!
To me , the Lead Marshaller committed severe dereliction of duty - not being way out front to be able to give pilots enough warning, but just decided to run away ?? wtf?????
Then the lead marshaller is telling the crew to crash. Turning right at that point would have made it much worse.
Great explanations, Cap't. I remember the first time my flight instructor let me land the plane. I got caught in ground effect and couldn't get the silly plane to touch down. So, he took control and showed me how to handle that in our weird situation. Lessons learned. This A380 pilot isn't flying that beast because he doesn't know what he's doing, so people should lighten up on the armchair critiques of his capabilities. Never judge a person by their weakest moment (or one bad landing). Thanks for all you do, sir!! Safe travels!
Great explanation of first landing. Appreciate your knowledge and professionalism as well. You didn't bash the pilot and offered reasons why he did what he did and gave him credit for "saving it." Enjoy your videos. Keep it up!
You're terrific, Kelsey! I love your vids. If I were training to be a pilot, I'd pray for a guy like you to teach me.
Sunday mornings are Coffee with Kelsie mornings. I love waking up to a new video to watch while fueling up for my day.
Been a big fan of your channel . I normally just listen to on a headset while driving. I looked down and saw captain strips. Congratulations!!!
Flies a 747, but wants to play with the light sabre glow sticks instead, lol.
Pilot thing lol
*Both, very shiny objects!* lol.
Add a hidden compartment for the snacks
Who doesn't 😂😂😂
He wants both. It's about knowing and experimenting all
I think people running away from you should be the universal sign to stop the plane
10 years airforce. 8 years commercial. 10 years Nasa orbiter pilot. I too have made similar mistakes. Even at this level of flight, these rudimentary errors happens to the best of us.
Wow! Wait!!! You've got 4 stripes! When did you become a Captain? I just have missed a couple episodes. CONGRATULATIONS!!! Love your videos!
I am not the expert here, but i think with the a380 landing when it first put in right rudder it started floating eather because they were carrying extra speed or got an extra windgust. When they were floating with the plane straightened out the plane got blown to the right side of the runway, that is why they put left rudder in to get the plane back to the centerline and not go off the runway. The best option would've been to do a goaround when they started to float and blown to the right side of the runway.
Great point about doing a go-around during a difficult landing. Too many Pilots don’t consider this advice and/or use it.
OMG Kelsey's face watching that first video!
Another informative video, love them! Great vid!
1:32 Thanks for the diagram. I thought I always knew what those different parts were but now I really know!
But he hadn’t indicated where the wings were …. 🤔
@@Soundbrigade or the tyres. I know!
Hey Kelsey, I'm an old codger now....I flew the military planes for about 20 years, only got about 8,000 hours, mostly in the B-47 and the old B-52....the F model and finally, the D model. I probably would have damaged the outboard engines on those aircraft had it not been for the outriggers. I was truly amazed at the beating those outriggers could take and still appear to be quite functional.
Hi Kelsey. This is the first time that I saw your 4 stripes. Congratulations on becoming a captain!
My flying experience is from a commercial passenger seat. But I just want to tell you I have spent hours watching your videos and enjoying hearing the stories. Congrats on the new stripe.
I love how calm she is. Most reaction videos on UA-cam should be called "over reaction" videos because they're deliberately over acting just to get more views. Especially if it's a black dude pretending to like heavy metal music; making faces like Macaulay Culkin in "Home Alone". It's refreshing to see an actual GENUINE reaction.
Thank you, my followers like my chilled out streams ❤️✈️
@@EvieAviation ASMR:
Aviation Symmetrical Meridian Response
Lol.
Long winded comment alert: I am a total oxymoron of a person. Student LTA pilot, always watching airplane traffic on radar all over the world, highly interested in different types of airplanes (cargo, pax, and military) and watching videos like yours - but I have no interest in flying fixed wing, and am an insanely anxious passenger. I’m here to thank you for your content. I’ve been binging your videos for the last 5 days and started following you on all platforms.
But I noticed your forum doesn’t exist anymore - what do you need to get that back up? Or did you close it for good? Thank you for all you do and all you teach, I hope you never stop. I wanna see more of your pilot vlogs!
Even a British airways pilot can make a mistake. Best airline in the world
New to your channel. I can't help it I have been binge watching. I am not an aviator yet as a life long, avid Sailor I love aviation tech, flying skills etc. It would be an understatement to say sailing and flying have similarities. More like, they have numerous parrallels. When I mentor Green helmsman I put huge friction on the tiller or wheel restrictor. A term I coined says a lot about where I am going with this reply: "why are novice helmsman 'tiller wigglers' ? It's because they keep trying to compensate for their constant overcompensation !". Your talking about your foot work technique on the rudder peddles was so spot on for me ;)
I just noticed that you are captain now! Congratulations 🍾🎉🎈🎊
Still wondering if you were piloting that 747 Cargolux cargo planne that had an engine fire after take off.
I thought it sounded a bit like you - especially the calmness and professional conversation form the pilots communicating about getting the plane back on the ground. Whether it was you or not (and you might not be able to talk about it) I love your videos and the imformation you provde. That and you sense of humility. Congrats again
about your captain promotion.💜💜
Last I knew, he flies Atlas
Captain Joe flies cargolux iirc
@@TheTubadMooseI thought there was an Atlas emergency where we heard Kelsey... I missed the memo about Cargolux
I learned to fly in a Cessna 150 and a Navy trainer at the Mayport Naval Flying Club back in the early 70's. We almost always had a 15 mph+ crosswind coming off the ocean there. I know it's no comparison to a heavily-laden jet with 100+ passengers but with Mayport's military-jet-arrestor cables at both ends of the runway, it could be a real challenge. I soloed after 6 hrs and won both the precision bombing and landing contest but while touch-and-goes were always a really fun experience at least I was alone. I can't imagine being responsible for 100+ passengers. Must be very disconcerting for passengers to see they were perpendicular to the runway 50' off the ground.
Another great call on the pilots use of the rudder! We"ve all "tensed up" on a stiff crosswind landing.
It doesn't matter if you're flying a C-172 or a B-747, a crosswind with gusts will blow you around faster than you can correct for it. I agree the pilots made a really good recovery and go around, so I put this one in the "no harm, no foul" category! As for the other guys...That poor wingtip! It didn't deserve it!
And...Congrats on your fourth stripe Capt. Kelsey! You've earned it
Look at precisely 0:35. The right white solid line is under engine No3, and the main gear is to the right of the centreline, on the unmarked grey concrete. The extended flare had a slight right bank all the time from 0:29 to 0:32 which amplified the right drift. The left boot of rudder was a vain attempt to hold it before the GA started.
You’re such an intelligently meticulous pilot who I’m certain would pull magic outta the sky anytime you needed to. That’s exactly how I interpret your experiential knowledge in these videos. You could be my captain any day since I only want the crème, ya know. Well done, King 😎
Yay!!! You’re back! Thanks Kelsey!!
I have a set of wing walker wands that I carried with me in the truck back when I used to drive trucks for a living. I used them for two purposes. First was if I was at a truck stop helping somebody with backing into a spot, they could see me easier, and if I needed them to stop, I could sound the alarm on it rather than yell and hope they heard me. Second was some delivery facilities have me backing into a dark building, so I would set them down on the ground right by either side of the dock, so I could see where I was supposed to aim the trailer.
Still hoping that Kelsey, in a future video, tells us a bit about what changed after becoming a captain...😉
Now he is in charge, but his personality is still the same beautiful person that he used to be.
I like to think his channel played a part in selecting him to replace a retiree. Explaining what goes wrong and how it could be done correctly without pointing fingers, that is an example of good CRM.
I can tell you, you keep looking to your left for a while till you realise … ‘oh yea, I’m the captain’. I’ve over twenty years in the left seat now and still remember my first few months with ‘imposter syndrome’.
I agree!
His paycheck 😂
Nice to see you keep making videos captain. You're an asset to the space.
Just noticed your Captain Bars - congrats Kelsey. Very cool.
Thanks for sharing my A380 video. It was amazing to watch at the time 😁✈️
Kelsey with his faces while watching the vids 😂
On an actual note kelsey you're great
Lol, I know what you mean. Kelsey comes across like the goofy kid from elementary school and the uninitiated think WHUH!
But when he gets into Captain mode, Kelsey is definitely the one I would be the most comfortable with sitting up front…even if he is dreaming about marshalling with his neon light sabres and suit on! 😂💕
I was a passenger on a hard landing yesterday Airbus 321. Your explaining the first plane gave me a possible explaination for the event. It seemed we covered a lot of runway and he simply may have wanted the plane on the ground, now. He certainly started all the souls sitting behind him, but we were all fine 😁
I think the Airbus pilot may have stabbed left rudder because, with the float and crosswind, once the nose was pointing down the runway it probably started drifting right. On top of that, the left wing started coming up.
I think the right drift and right induced roll added up to make his brain scream "Go Left!" and he got a little cross-controlled in the stress.
Just a couple/few quick comments (to help the logarithm). 1. Your videos are interesting, entertaining and educational. 2. Your face expressions very often amuse me.3. Unlike many other viewers, these videos scare me to fly (just a little) because now I know how many things can go wrong. 4. I'm now ok with not taking that ground school course I signed up for in the 70's because the amount of info you pilots have to learn is probably more info than my little head has accumulated in 67 years of life.