There’s a parachute attached to the aircraft and there’s very little stress on the frame doing this maneuver. Maybe you should learn about aerodynamics, aerobatics and physics before you comment. I bet you’ve never even flown. 😂
@@thelastrebelshow1627Actually if you are pulling Gs, being pressed into your seat with excessive force, then, yes....There is stress on the wing, the frame, and the fabric.
I've spent a major part of my life in aviation flying all sorts of craft, even hang gliders. I was also an engineer. I don't hesitate to say this guy and his customer is a twin fatality waiting to happen.
Do you mind telling a tad bit of the story? Was he flying a machine just like the one shown in the video with his buddy? What caused them to crash? Feel free to ignore me! 😊
I would like to express my thanks to the gentleman in the back seat for taking my place in this "test flight" where the structural and aerodynamic limits of this flying lawn chair were explored
There are design limits, and there are as built limits which depend completely on the integrity of the components and the assembly of the components. A failure of a fastener or structural component is EXTREMELY likely do to the cost involved with the manufacture of high reliability components. As an example, 20 years ago the aluminum hub that held the rotor blades of ambulance type helicopter cost over $70,000 and had a defined service life. You would definitely not find me in the back seat of this lawn chair.
@@paulskopic5844 we lived north of L.A. during the late 70's to the 90's. In the early eighties, My Dad, who was working for a composites company, came home one day, and said he was astonished that Northrup Grumman would throw away a $60,000 part they had just manufactured that wasn't quite right. I think it was a part for a rocket or a plane (I think it was a skin or a shell). I was astonished too. But like you said, that stuff has to be perfect, and even then...well, you just have to hope the engineers were correct and the builders also.
@@stevedriscoll2539i know a retired QC guy from around LA, who worked for Northrop grumman. He took great pleasure in refusing parts for the slightest defect. He's a pain to buy stuff for.
I have flown ultralights for well over 2K hours but just a few minuets with this guy and I would have jumped out if I was wearing a chute after the first couple of seconds.... A few minuets and I might even jump out without a chute ;-)
I just came from a stall spiral fatal death of a pilot of one of these horrible things at an air show. He was 40 year experienced. You don't disrespect the fact you are in open air and start performing acrobatics. Respect the limits sir.
@@felixx321recover what? A catastrophic structural failure by needlessly stressing parts that are critical for safe, stable flight is a degree of homicide. If you’re solo in the aircraft that’s fine, but you have a responsibility to any passengers to not take unnecessary risks,
"Spiral drop of death." That's the way I want to go; with a forced smile on my face and knowing the endless chatter from a clown may be the last thing I will ever hear.
I bet the guy in the back actually considered choking the pilot to death just so he could savour the joyous 30 seconds of the pilot not talking like that before he also died.
Having flown these craft since 1986 and travelled the world demonstrating these craft, I've seen flex wings lock into high-speed stalls, especially when fully loaded, take care! I lost 2 good friends doing such spirals close to the ground
Im not a violent person .but as soon as that landed .i would hurt that man .so that he never did it again .as idiots party tricks .is no joke when you can easly die .
Maneuvering close to the ground is a bad idea in any flying machine. Modern flex wings do not "lock into high speed stalls." The more common problem used to be tucking and tumbling, which was unrecoverable. This trike is factory built and certified to UK Section S under primary category. The wing is certified to +6g. This trike is also carrying a ballistic recovery system.
I knew a guy years back who was a pilot/instructor. He would say 'there are bold pilots and old pilots, but no old bold pilots' He flew some 60 years, until he misjudged a treetop at a rural airfield. He lived, but didn't fly again.
As a retired fire officer with an urban airfield on our ground I have been part of the crew that has had to remove two bodies from one of these things. They were seen having 'a bit of fun' just prior to making a decent sized hole in a ploughed field.
@@JJ-cf7nb Trikes are the motorcycles of the sky. If you want to get a job, you go fly ever larger aircraft and spend your time staring at instruments. If you want to have fun, you fly an ultralight. Trikes can have climbrates up to around 1500fpm, compare that to a Cessna 172 that has half that. Far from junk.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 I seriously doubt you’ve done hundreds of spins. If you had you’d know this isn’t one. It’s a spiral dive, the wing is still flying. Get back in your armchair.
There's old pilots and there's bold pilots...I lost a friend who flew like that. Both him and his passenger died in the crash, Reckless even to turn off the engine.
“It’s reckless to turn off the engine? Holly smokes…. I guess I better leave the engine running when I am flying my sailplane or one of my hang gliders. I guess I was reckless for eight hours straight when I flew a sailplane for that long with no engine.
He did everything according to the book. That was just a spiral down nothing too serious that craft can handle a lot more stress than that. And he did everything from very high with enough room to recover if he ran into issues. Always be 2 mistakes high. And he was 2 mistakes high. I would love to take a flip with him seems like a fun guy.
Hang gliders can take higher G Loads than a a passenger jet. This didn't seem that big of a deal. Doesn't mean I want to fly with him, I prefer to fly my own glider. Snapping a spar is a pretty rare event even among those who regularly do aerobatics. The vast majority of incidents occur during landing. Like any air craft, taking off is not to difficult, flying under good conditions is relatively easy, it is the landing phase where things start to get sketchy, and when things go south near the ground, that is the scary part. Much like riding a motorcycle, the driver should have the passenger's permission if hot rodding is going to be part of the trip. I myself am a terrible passenger and would NOT want to be involved in wing overs as a ride along.
true story: my first flight ever was about 1979 - 1980, in a cessna. one of the Scout Troop leaders had a plane and took a few up at a time. he was all wild eyed, never stopped talking and had a messed up affect, just like this guy. stalled the plane, did stunts and didn't seem to really have any appreciation for the responsibility and gravity that should go along with flying a plane. I was 11 years old and I could easily discern what I was looking at. I wasn't nervous about flying at all - just nervous about being around him. within a few short months of the flight that i took, the "pilot" was arrested for trying to kill his wife for insurance money. real prince.
I thought I was in danger the one time I was in a Baron with a pilot who was obviously drunk and nodding on opiates, especially when he fell asleep on short final, but after watching this guy I realize I had it pretty good.
As a LEO I responded to a local desert dry lake to a gyrocopter crash. I don’t know from what altitude the two men dropped but their skulls were so completely shattered that their heads were no longer round and were very flat and their brains had not just spilled out but had shot out because the gray matter was many feet away from the heads.
I don't think think that even if the operator, not going to call him a pilot. Were to read your comment. It would make a difference. This bonehead is on some sort of ego trip to death. Too bad he's trying to take someone with him. tsk tsk
@@briancaldwell6799 Piss of troll. This happened in the late 80’s or early 90’s on the dry lake bed on the outskirts of Boulder City Nevada just off Hwy 95. Why are there people out there who refuse to acknowledge that there are individuals in real life who have lived life, and accomplished goals, and careers. Oh, that’s right, because your generation is living in their parents basement, playing video games all day and masturbaiting to Internet porn.
My friend messed around with me like that in a Cessna during my first time in a small plane. He idled the engine and put it into a stall, let it drop then recovered. He was trying to show how safe/easy the plane was to fly. I get it, but words would have been good enough. I've never flown with him since.....
Licensed pilot here. Your friend was absolutely right. These little single engine planes are designed to be extremely stable and docile. As a pilot you must legally train these maneuvers, often many many times. It's not particularly dangerous unless you haven't been trained. I get that you may not have enjoyed the feeling. And pilots do acclimate to these types of things (turbulence, low, zero, and negative Gs), so he may have pushed you farther than you were comfortable with, but I can assure you that he did NOT endanger you in any way by doing this. This is not considered dangerous or reckless, and is even something pilots practice regularly.
@@gizmoguyar that's not true. General pilots licence I believe all the way to commercial you don't learn stall or spin recovery in the US. Maybe you learned a long time ago. But its no longer a requirement. Unfortunately so. Kills alot of pilots because of the lack of preparedness
@@krotchlickmeugh627 That's absolutely false. Under part 61 the FAA requires "stall recovery and avoidance demonstrations, as well as knowledge of (but not practice of) spins and spin recovery" for Light Sport Certificates and above. Spin recovery training was removed in 1991 because it was shown that more accidents occurred during training than the training prevented. The idea now is to train to avoid spins by avoiding stalls. Only CFI and above now require spin training. I never received spin training because I got my private pilot cert after 1991, but I and every pilot I've ever met has had stall avoidance and recovery training.
David Maccormack Jesus man don’t get so butt hurt from the guy to the point where you hope he dies!! You must be an extremely sensitive and emotional person to get that type of reaction from this video. Cheer up.
David Maccormack he’s just hamming it up for the camera. My guess he’s a skilled instructor with many many hours under his belt. Nothing outrageously dangerous here. Get a grip.
@@davidmaccormack7067 Yikes. Do I sense a little projection there? It's obviously the guys job, he takes tourists up and part of that job is to play it up for them, you're an idiot dude.
It's almost like this guy is getting paid to offer a certain experience including _extremely_ minor aerobatics and a bit of comedy to keep the passenger lighthearted and then delivers on what he is getting paid for. Lock him up.
Well the bolt is an 8.8 with a shear load of 50 ton. However the rest of the pipework is +4g, -2g limits and manoeuvres beyond the flight envelope result in either structural failure or inversion in which case 100% one way ticket to another dimension.
As a qualified flexwing pilot, this scares the hell out of me. It is totally irresponsible and stupid to fly in such a manner, especially with a passenger who puts his complete faith and trust in the PIC when he straps in. G-BZJF was a P&M Quantum-15 which suffered a tumble and break-up in the UK a few years ago because of similar antics according to the accident report, killing the pax and PIC.
@@ecoturismovalle1570 Actually, some microlights DO have parachutes called Ballistic Recovery Systems. These are parachutes fitted to the trike or fuselage of a 3-axis microlight that can be activated in the event of a catastrophic failure. It allows the whole aircraft and contents to float to the ground. It is very unlikely though to save a flexwing suffering a tumble and break-up due to the extreme g-forces involved and the speed at which it happens. The BEST plan is to keep well clear of the boundary of the flight envelope that ends in a tumble.
You call yourself a qualified flexwing pilot? As in you can carry a passenger? If not you don't need a license, and if so you need a private rating. You would call yourself a pilot. And if you were actually qualified you would know nothing he did was dangerous. It was a paid show, for entertainment, like he said the worst thing he did was the "death spiral" give me a break. Engine off, 2000 feet per minute decent rate, in a shollow turn, from 5000 to 3000 ft. Almost weightless, definitely no G's or very little. Could do that all day every day. Scariest thing about it is what he calls it. As part of his SHOW . Oh and yes that is why he shut the engine down.... For safety so he wouldn't over speed. I would guess he never got over 50 or 50 mph.
@@gt4th Do you actually fly a flexwing in the UK? If you did, you would know the rules and licencing that applies to allow you to fly one legally in the UK. This is a 2-seat machine with a max take-off weight of probably 450Kg or thereabouts so in the UK needs an annual Permit to Fly and the pilot is required to hold a Pilots Licence issued by the UK CAA. There is no way a first-time passenger should be subject to such manoeuvres and a spiral dive will pull probably a couple of g. The scariest thing he did is the accelerated or "whip" stall which IF you are qualified to fly a flexwing you will know is a killer! His attitude, manner of flying and "showing off" will end in tears one way or another.
For me the scariest thing about this is the fact that the guy is relying on a single lap strap to hold him in to a non-enclosed flying vehicle. I mean I know the chance of pulling enough unintentional negative G is probably low, but I’d really prefer a bit more security than that!
@@thelastrebelshow1627 exactly! Someone else noticed that. He literally just put the nose down and did a turning decent. I've done enough stall training of my own.
I'm a pilot now but many years ago -- I had a flight instructor take me on what's called an 'introductory flight' when they see if you want to actually train to be a pilot. The guy was kind of a cowboy, doesn't do the standard briefing, etc then once we're airborne says ,"do you want to go for a plane ride....or do you want to go for a REAL plane ride?" I was 18 and said ok sure let's go for a REAL plane ride. This guy proceeds to do stalls, steep turns, spins, wing overs, etc. He was cackling the whole time...felt very unprofessional and as the years have passed, I have decided that guys like that (and in the video) aren't doing this for YOUR enjoyment, they're doing it for THEIR enjoyment. There's a thrill in scaring people or wowing people with your skills. I don't care for it, but if the passenger in that video liked it, so be it.
@@davemould4638 I do drive cars, and it does get crazy out there. But, I don't fly ultralights, parachute or run with the bulls. You do make a good point, and I have to practice suspending my imagination when I drive.
@@pcm7315 Amazing as it may sound to you, there is a lower probability of serious injury or death while flying or skydiving than when driving a car in the suburbs. Your fear is probably fear of the unknown. If you were to do the training to become a pilot or skydiver, you would gain some understanding of exactly what risks there are and are not, and probably lose your fear. But of course its not something that you should do if you have no interest in those activities, as there would be no point.
Just thinking about it.. he’s probably the same guy that put his kite together with half the bits he didn’t need in tool box on the ground. Stress and fatigue are real issues.. I bet he wouldn’t be so cocky when the wings fold up.
I was thinking the same thing. When I was taking flying lessons my 2 uncles who were pilots said do a 720 sping (2 complete circles) and learn to pull out. My instructor said it wasn't FAA required. We did it and I learned a lot. Still flying today and yep still doing stalls and spins. Oh that was 50 years ago.
@@johnhunt7065 probably none it’s a powered hang glider for god sake‘s when you get instructional on one of these I don’t really think it’s to do loops and barrel rolls and high-speed maneuvers I think they show you go to behave yourself and not do stupid shit and adhere to a basic common sense approach to handling one of these
His electric trim allows for hands off flying ... that trutted wing probably handles +6G to -3G and they maybe did +3G at max ... motor off enhanses the experience ... and that avoids the tight turn gyroscopic stresses on the prop, gearbox and engine mount ... electric restart ok ... and it has a ballistic chute ... its all good ... trust me ...I'm an arm chair expert.
My flight instructor once told me: “....there are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are NO old, bold pilots....”. Idiot show off WILL kill someone someday....
It was a turning descent. He called it acro but it wasn't even acro. He operated within the aircraft's design parameters and his abilities and he did it with plenty enough altitude to spare. What did he do wrong? You are aware that companies design, build, and sell aircraft for the sole purpose of acro, right?
@@twistedpixel2558 This wing is absolutely not certified for acro, no hangglider is. That said what was being done here is nothing crazy, the wing is rated at 6g positive, so it's not going to break just by doing a basic wingover and some loaded turns.
Clowning around in any aircraft, particularly with an inexperienced passenger is to be frowned upon and when it gets to pretending to fall out of the aircraft, this type of "showing-off" is a positive no-no and he should be reprimanded at least, if not, have his licence revoked.
@@ChadDidNothingWrong License suspended for a while will give him time to think. Total revoking may not be in order, if he learns a valuable lesson. If we think if that as controlling, great. Maybe he needs someone to put him into check befire he kills someone or himself.
@@watcher818 -Countless countries/nations/cultures around the globe are "Totally safe, For the People's own good", their Controllers do Not allow this..., Or Anything else ;{
My first experience FLYING an aircraft was in 1981...my dad and I got trained in ultra lights...we joined a club..got our training in the QUICK SILVER MX...had to give it all up when the club bellied up..after that I got my private pilots LICENSE..but my ultra light training helped alot
I'm a 2000 hour pilot, with about 800 hours in a Quicksilver MX, most of the rest in taildraggers like the Cub and Globe Swift. I would never fly with this guy.
Plot twist: exceeds do not exceed limit for his craft, aluminum bars snap, nylon shreds and they plunge to their deaths with that jackass laughing gleefully.
Pilot "Plus I forgot to mention, at the end of our flight, now that we're on the ground, as a surprise special treat, we check our underwear and get two large surprise brownies! No extra charge, you all come back now ya hear?"
I love to see the reaction from the manufacturer Airborne. I know the wing is capable to handle the loads but if you are consistently doing this on your flights, I trust you are thoroughly versed on checking for fatigue, deformation of the bolt holes etc. I’m not being negative, just concerned how far you push it with a paying customer
The problem is to check the spars and fittings that have the greatest compression loads are inside the wing., and not visible to the naked eye. I’ve lost a friend doing similar manoeuvres, had a structural failure and not even a ballistic chute saved him. I’m sure he is a great pilot and does take every precaution but as you get closer to the edge of the envelope with a passenger, risk is a factor that must be taken into account, not just for yourself.
@Kim Kemal - totally agree with you. Stress on a hanglider/ultralight wing in this way (especially with two onboard) is a lot higher than this clown appreciates. I have seen foldups before - they are ugly and heart-wrenching. Both pilots in those incidents were very experienced - one was performing acrobatics, the other was hit by a gust of wind. One guy died. The other pilot, a woman, fortunately had sufficient altitude to use a reserve ‘chute but her injuries were bad. She never flew again as a result.
Guys, this guy is not actually performing "death spiral". He's literally just putting the nose down and doing a turning descent. If you've flown before and done stall training it's very obvious that he's note stalling the wing and causing a spin.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 Maybe he was not at immediate risk, but playing the fool and showing off at 5000 feet is just idiotic, especially with a passenger on board. Not cool.
@@jimhunt4874 NO! You’re just a total wimp! What he’s suppose to fly wings level and straight forward at all times? Does the passenger look concerned? Do you see the ballistic parachute attached to the trike? Ever herd of aerobatics? Even birds play in flight! Do us all a favor and stay in your house where you belong! 😹
@@jimhunt4874 5000 feet is exactly where you do aerobatic maneuvers ! You’re just showing you know nothing! You sure don’t do them at low altitudes! You’re a disgrace to men!
I'd always fancied a bit of the old microlight, but this havering git has managed to cure me completely of any such aspiration. On the other hand, the more time he can spend somewhere up in the sky, preferably on his own, the better.
I'd take that unfit-for-flight 1940 Taylorcraft Trevor Jacob flew, in that condition, any time before getting into an ultralight, goddamn those things are scary.
This reminds of the granny connected to her instructor but they forget click all her buckles. He was basically trying to hold onto her as she had slipped out of her harness. Still amazes me she did not break every bone upon landing. There is a vid.
It might be his 10,000th flight, but that's no reason for such a caviler attitude. His days are numbered. I'm sure at the memorial service everyone will agree he died doing what he loves.
When the kite-pilot sounds like your drunk uncle with large fireworks at the family’s 4th of July picnic, it’s time to find another means of getting a thrill.
This is the guy that gets you killed, especially once that frame folds up on spiral drop
As long as you get a good laugh out of it, that's what counts i guess.... smh.
😱 I was a private pilot for years and was always really careful. What a nut!
@@richardlamm4826 Said Custer's second in command...
Yep. It happened to guy I knew. I saw him, up with a friend, doing aerobatics. An hour later I heard they had both been killed.
Ah yes, it has been my dream to fall 5,00ft out of the sky while listening to Kermit the Frog cracking some jokes
Brilliant comment! :)
Lol!!!!
haha so true, it's all fun and games and jokes until you auger in at 85mph
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Lmao
He’s putting a lot of faith in the compressive , shear, and tensile strength of some aluminum tubes.
Broom handles
Not to mention the cables and the stitching on the wings.
There’s a parachute attached to the aircraft and there’s very little stress on the frame doing this maneuver. Maybe you should learn about aerodynamics, aerobatics and physics before you comment. I bet you’ve never even flown. 😂
@@thelastrebelshow1627Actually if you are pulling Gs, being pressed into your seat with excessive force, then, yes....There is stress on the wing, the frame, and the fabric.
I’m a private pilot I do not fly these but have helped build them and this guy is an accident waiting to happen
Clowning around is a well known cause of aviation accidents.
Yup, I was not impressed
I've spent a major part of my life in aviation flying all sorts of craft, even hang gliders. I was also an engineer. I don't hesitate to say this guy and his customer is a twin fatality waiting to happen.
To say he was unprofessional is like saying the Pope is a little religious.
@@talkandplay It is said that familiarity breeds contempt, if so that's the part of the curve he's at or close to now.
@@talkandplay The current pope is not particularly religious.
Will read about this guy someday and it won't be good.
Indeed 😐😞 really dumb of them
I had an uncle like this guy. I flew with him once and that was enough. He died like this too with his buddy.
I was gonna say....he's going to die doing that!
worse he'll take someone with him@@TroyCastellano
Do you mind telling a tad bit of the story? Was he flying a machine just like the one shown in the video with his buddy? What caused them to crash? Feel free to ignore me! 😊
He died doing what he loved. Being an idiot.
Your uncle was what is known as a Psychopath
I would like to express my thanks to the gentleman in the back seat for taking my place in this "test flight" where the structural and aerodynamic limits of this flying lawn chair were explored
There are design limits, and there are as built limits which depend completely on the integrity of the components and the assembly of the components. A failure of a fastener or structural component is EXTREMELY likely do to the cost involved with the manufacture of high reliability components. As an example, 20 years ago the aluminum hub that held the rotor blades of ambulance type helicopter cost over $70,000 and had a defined service life. You would definitely not find me in the back seat of this lawn chair.
@@paulskopic5844 we lived north of L.A. during the late 70's to the 90's. In the early eighties, My Dad, who was working for a composites company, came home one day, and said he was astonished that Northrup Grumman would throw away a $60,000 part they had just manufactured that wasn't quite right. I think it was a part for a rocket or a plane (I think it was a skin or a shell). I was astonished too. But like you said, that stuff has to be perfect, and even then...well, you just have to hope the engineers were correct and the builders also.
😂😂👏👏
Hahaha 😆
@@stevedriscoll2539i know a retired QC guy from around LA, who worked for Northrop grumman. He took great pleasure in refusing parts for the slightest defect. He's a pain to buy stuff for.
"Spiral drop of death." We can only wish. After a few minutes with this guy, anything which would put me on the ground faster is an improvement.
Agreed. I'd be tempted to push him out. What an idiot.
Dog that's cold
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A clear case of "to much information".
I have flown ultralights for well over 2K hours but just a few minuets with this guy and I would have jumped out if I was wearing a chute after the first couple of seconds.... A few minuets and I might even jump out without a chute ;-)
I just came from a stall spiral fatal death of a pilot of one of these horrible things at an air show. He was 40 year experienced. You don't disrespect the fact you are in open air and start performing acrobatics. Respect the limits sir.
I mean 5k ft is a lot of room for recovery
Spins are stupid worthless stress on the airframe. Not worth the risk. It's nice to know the recovery, but it doesn't look cool as a show move.
what's a proper show move then?@@georgehunter2813
@@felixx321you aren’t going to recover when the wing collapses.
@@felixx321recover what? A catastrophic structural failure by needlessly stressing parts that are critical for safe, stable flight is a degree of homicide. If you’re solo in the aircraft that’s fine, but you have a responsibility to any passengers to not take unnecessary risks,
In my years I've seen two things fall from the sky:
Bird sh!t and fools. 😉
What about rain, snow, sleet, and sunshine? ;) ❤
and biden you forgot
"Like let's get outta here scoobs" I never knew Shaggy could fly microlights
Lol hahaha 🤣😂😂
He’s flying them. You clearly spend your time watching lame cartoons like a little bitch. 😹
@@thelastrebelshow1627 Are you okay? Just that you sound needlessly angry. I don't understand why?
@@ashleybray6299 Read the comments on these threads. It’s one asshole after another. I guess this guy really scared a lot of non pilots.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 I'm just saying he sounds like Shaggy. Harmless fun.
As soon as I was safely on the ground me and you would be boxing.
Dude at back
Wanna punch him
That explains the helmet.
One too many in flight punches to the back of the head.
Kick boxing or MMA more likely
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On god
"Spiral drop of death." That's the way I want to go; with a forced smile on my face
and knowing the endless chatter from a clown may be the last thing I will ever hear.
ha ha
And that so called pilot needs his licence revoked immdly.
This guy is unaware of the risks. He's pushing the limits. RIP
I wouldn't let this guy drive me to the supermarket, never mind take me up in a superlight.
Imagine being tuck up in the air with such an annoying person.
I agree
That is what I thinking at first gooffy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, "get me back on the ground right now!"
The passenger looked like he welcomed the "spiral drop of death", only to be disappointed when it wasn't literal.
You can always jump.
As a retired Footlocker employee with 17 years on the job with a background in Space Jam (the orginal), DON'T DO THIS.
lol
There’s so many professionals with opinions around it was hilarious to hear your credentials and advice. You just hosed these guys mate.
“Goal tending”
Coroner's summary: "It was always when, not if".
This guy is going to regret the foolish antics one day... and I feel sorry for the passenger he is going to take with him.
I bet the guy in the back actually considered choking the pilot to death just so he could savour the joyous 30 seconds of the pilot not talking like that before he also died.
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Having flown these craft since 1986 and travelled the world demonstrating these craft, I've seen flex wings lock into high-speed stalls, especially when fully loaded, take care! I lost 2 good friends doing such spirals close to the ground
Im not a violent person .but as soon as that landed .i would hurt that man .so that he never did it again .as idiots party tricks .is no joke when you can easly die .
Maneuvering close to the ground is a bad idea in any flying machine. Modern flex wings do not "lock into high speed stalls." The more common problem used to be tucking and tumbling, which was unrecoverable. This trike is factory built and certified to UK Section S under primary category. The wing is certified to +6g. This trike is also carrying a ballistic recovery system.
I knew a guy years back who was a pilot/instructor. He would say 'there are bold pilots and old pilots, but no old bold pilots'
He flew some 60 years, until he misjudged a treetop at a rural airfield. He lived, but didn't fly again.
@@mikeb.7068What is tucking and tumbling, ?
I guess that’s why they call it the drop of death :/
As a retired fire officer with an urban airfield on our ground I have been part of the crew that has had to remove two bodies from one of these things. They were seen having 'a bit of fun' just prior to making a decent sized hole in a ploughed field.
Well, your experience tells you Safety First, even if they were just having fun and no matter the Tricky title. Fly respectfully and live longer, IMO!
The Last Rebel Show Nobody is going to get a commercial license flying this piece of junk.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 It wasn't even a spin, just a loaded turn, probably pulling like 2g or so at most, the wing is rated to 6g.
@@JJ-cf7nb Trikes are the motorcycles of the sky. If you want to get a job, you go fly ever larger aircraft and spend your time staring at instruments. If you want to have fun, you fly an ultralight. Trikes can have climbrates up to around 1500fpm, compare that to a Cessna 172 that has half that. Far from junk.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 I seriously doubt you’ve done hundreds of spins. If you had you’d know this isn’t one. It’s a spiral dive, the wing is still flying. Get back in your armchair.
The definition of unhinged, I wouldn’t get in a car with that mentalist let alone a bloody aircraft, some over stressing going in there
There's old pilots and there's bold pilots...I lost a friend who flew like that. Both him and his passenger died in the crash,
Reckless even to turn off the engine.
“It’s reckless to turn off the engine? Holly smokes…. I guess I better leave the engine running when I am flying my sailplane or one of my hang gliders. I guess I was reckless for eight hours straight when I flew a sailplane for that long with no engine.
Agreed. Why take the chance the engine doesn't start? Foolish. He could have made his point by reducing power to idle without jeopardizing the flight.
There's old pilots and there's bold pilots.but rhere are no old bold pilots.
I have always been concerned about the core personality of the PIC when I fly. This Gentleman truly proves my point.
Not a "Gentleman". Better described as a FOOL. I would never fly with a fool.
Aww did he scare you? All you’re doing is illustrating you know nothing about aerodynamics, physics or aerobatics.
He will be in for a rude awakening when that wing collapses from the g load.
He did everything according to the book. That was just a spiral down nothing too serious that craft can handle a lot more stress than that. And he did everything from very high with enough room to recover if he ran into issues. Always be 2 mistakes high. And he was 2 mistakes high.
I would love to take a flip with him seems like a fun guy.
@@omgwtflmaololrotfl2368 Better you than me. You don’t recover from a snapped spar or wing no matter how high you are.
@@Chance-ry1hq well. Eventually the craft is recovered. Lol.
@@gtm624 yep from a hole in the ground with them two 😀
Hang gliders can take higher G Loads than a a passenger jet.
This didn't seem that big of a deal. Doesn't mean I want to fly with him, I prefer to fly my own glider.
Snapping a spar is a pretty rare event even among those who regularly do aerobatics.
The vast majority of incidents occur during landing. Like any air craft, taking off is not to difficult, flying under good conditions is relatively easy, it is the landing phase where things start to get sketchy, and when things go south near the ground, that is the scary part.
Much like riding a motorcycle, the driver should have the passenger's permission if hot rodding is going to be part of the trip. I myself am a terrible passenger and would NOT want to be involved in wing overs as a ride along.
That voice - And when he's not flying, he LIVES IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
"Uncle Eddie" from Lampoons Christmas vacation flying a trike
This here's an ultralight Clark. 😅
Exhibiting Extravagant Confidence in the Tensile strength of the Design and Materials.
true story: my first flight ever was about 1979 - 1980, in a cessna. one of the Scout Troop leaders had a plane and took a few up at a time. he was all wild eyed, never stopped talking and had a messed up affect, just like this guy. stalled the plane, did stunts and didn't seem to really have any appreciation for the responsibility and gravity that should go along with flying a plane. I was 11 years old and I could easily discern what I was looking at. I wasn't nervous about flying at all - just nervous about being around him. within a few short months of the flight that i took, the "pilot" was arrested for trying to kill his wife for insurance money. real prince.
Better check if he had taken out any insurance policies for you before the flight. 😆
Think I’d rather jump out than listen to him all flight
LMAO! Me too.
Genuine professional pilots must cringe when they see this guy
Kevin Grazier non professional non pilot here... yet cringing as well
Yeah they definitely didn't lose 2,000 feet in the "spiral of death" lol
@@alexmccabe1948 I think he meant at the rate of 2,000 feet per min
Yeah full of jealousy at this guy's balls.
@@alienlatino2945 There is a fine line between balls and stupidity!
I thought I was in danger the one time I was in a Baron with a pilot who was obviously drunk and nodding on opiates, especially when he fell asleep on short final, but after watching this guy I realize I had it pretty good.
Underrated comment right here
I wouldn't even get into a car with this guy driving.
As a LEO I responded to a local desert dry lake to a gyrocopter crash. I don’t know from what altitude the two men dropped but their skulls were so completely shattered that their heads were no longer round and were very flat and their brains had not just spilled out but had shot out because the gray matter was many feet away from the heads.
Wow. Those things can NOT handle ANY negative G.
I don't think think that even if the operator, not going to call him a pilot. Were to read your comment. It would make a difference. This bonehead is on some sort of ego trip to death. Too bad he's trying to take someone with him. tsk tsk
wait a minute....i read that line in a dime store war novel back during desert shield....no sh!t...there i was...
@@briancaldwell6799 Piss of troll. This happened in the late 80’s or early 90’s on the dry lake bed on the outskirts of Boulder City Nevada just off Hwy 95. Why are there people out there who refuse to acknowledge that there are individuals in real life who have lived life, and accomplished goals, and careers. Oh, that’s right, because your generation is living in their parents basement, playing video games all day and masturbaiting to Internet porn.
Sounds like Scotty Kilmer took up trikes.
vnewarp9 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol yeah!
Run up your engines!
Hahahahaha YES!
lol
My friend messed around with me like that in a Cessna during my first time in a small plane. He idled the engine and put it into a stall, let it drop then recovered. He was trying to show how safe/easy the plane was to fly. I get it, but words would have been good enough.
I've never flown with him since.....
Licensed pilot here. Your friend was absolutely right. These little single engine planes are designed to be extremely stable and docile. As a pilot you must legally train these maneuvers, often many many times. It's not particularly dangerous unless you haven't been trained. I get that you may not have enjoyed the feeling. And pilots do acclimate to these types of things (turbulence, low, zero, and negative Gs), so he may have pushed you farther than you were comfortable with, but I can assure you that he did NOT endanger you in any way by doing this. This is not considered dangerous or reckless, and is even something pilots practice regularly.
@@gizmoguyar that's not true. General pilots licence I believe all the way to commercial you don't learn stall or spin recovery in the US. Maybe you learned a long time ago. But its no longer a requirement. Unfortunately so. Kills alot of pilots because of the lack of preparedness
@@krotchlickmeugh627 That's absolutely false. Under part 61 the FAA requires "stall recovery and avoidance demonstrations, as well as knowledge of (but not practice of) spins and spin recovery" for Light Sport Certificates and above. Spin recovery training was removed in 1991 because it was shown that more accidents occurred during training than the training prevented. The idea now is to train to avoid spins by avoiding stalls. Only CFI and above now require spin training. I never received spin training because I got my private pilot cert after 1991, but I and every pilot I've ever met has had stall avoidance and recovery training.
@@gizmoguyar knowledge of not practice. You made whatever point you're trying to make moot.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 "stall recovery and avoidance demonstrations" - Directly from part 61. Spin recovery does not require demonstration.
This dude gonna kill somebody
Kill who?
jirka merunka whoever is with him when hes fucking around like that
David Maccormack Jesus man don’t get so butt hurt from the guy to the point where you hope he dies!! You must be an extremely sensitive and emotional person to get that type of reaction from this video. Cheer up.
David Maccormack he’s just hamming it up for the camera. My guess he’s a skilled instructor with many many hours under his belt. Nothing outrageously dangerous here. Get a grip.
@@davidmaccormack7067 Yikes. Do I sense a little projection there?
It's obviously the guys job, he takes tourists up and part of that job is to play it up for them, you're an idiot dude.
Listening to him... a fate worse than death
Should be in Bidens cabinet in some lunatic capacity.
Complacency is written all over this and we all know where this leads
Guy behind was terrified!!! The grin of death. Pilot should be grounded.
I hope he has a yapping wife at home that sounds just like him. He was muted after one minute.
Should be titled "Future Darwin Award Winner"
Darwin really?
Gene Jarman Your handle should be , moron deluxe. 😹
J F You know what’s funny?, your pathetic little dinky. 😹
@@thelastrebelshow1627 dinky? Are you 6?
Ignore’em gene
One day he’s going to break a spar or the nylon will rip messing about. That other guy won’t be laughing then!
On a scale of 1 to NO THANK YOU! that ranks as a massive NO THANK YOU!
The good thing about the intercom is that you can turn it off.
If he would inhale it would at least give us 3 seconds of peace and quiet.
🤣🤣🤣
It's almost like this guy is getting paid to offer a certain experience including _extremely_ minor aerobatics and a bit of comedy to keep the passenger lighthearted and then delivers on what he is getting paid for.
Lock him up.
All I'm thinking about is that single pivot point where the wing connect😳
Well the bolt is an 8.8 with a shear load of 50 ton. However the rest of the pipework is +4g, -2g limits and manoeuvres beyond the flight envelope result in either structural failure or inversion in which case 100% one way ticket to another dimension.
I wouldn't even trust that guy to make me a cup of coffee
Does the passenger sign the same type of waiver as Titan submersible passengers do?
As a qualified flexwing pilot, this scares the hell out of me. It is totally irresponsible and stupid to fly in such a manner, especially with a passenger who puts his complete faith and trust in the PIC when he straps in. G-BZJF was a P&M Quantum-15 which suffered a tumble and break-up in the UK a few years ago because of similar antics according to the accident report, killing the pax and PIC.
I agree with you 100% I was thinking exactly the same. The most scary issue is that these planes have NO rescue parachute like hang gliders do.
@@ecoturismovalle1570 Actually, some microlights DO have parachutes called Ballistic Recovery Systems. These are parachutes fitted to the trike or fuselage of a 3-axis microlight that can be activated in the event of a catastrophic failure. It allows the whole aircraft and contents to float to the ground. It is very unlikely though to save a flexwing suffering a tumble and break-up due to the extreme g-forces involved and the speed at which it happens. The BEST plan is to keep well clear of the boundary of the flight envelope that ends in a tumble.
@@125brat I agree
You call yourself a qualified flexwing pilot? As in you can carry a passenger? If not you don't need a license, and if so you need a private rating. You would call yourself a pilot. And if you were actually qualified you would know nothing he did was dangerous. It was a paid show, for entertainment, like he said the worst thing he did was the "death spiral" give me a break. Engine off, 2000 feet per minute decent rate, in a shollow turn, from 5000 to 3000 ft. Almost weightless, definitely no G's or very little. Could do that all day every day. Scariest thing about it is what he calls it. As part of his SHOW . Oh and yes that is why he shut the engine down.... For safety so he wouldn't over speed. I would guess he never got over 50 or 50 mph.
@@gt4th Do you actually fly a flexwing in the UK? If you did, you would know the rules and licencing that applies to allow you to fly one legally in the UK. This is a 2-seat machine with a max take-off weight of probably 450Kg or thereabouts so in the UK needs an annual Permit to Fly and the pilot is required to hold a Pilots Licence issued by the UK CAA. There is no way a first-time passenger should be subject to such manoeuvres and a spiral dive will pull probably a couple of g. The scariest thing he did is the accelerated or "whip" stall which IF you are qualified to fly a flexwing you will know is a killer! His attitude, manner of flying and "showing off" will end in tears one way or another.
Thats the kind of fun you should have alone.
For me the scariest thing about this is the fact that the guy is relying on a single lap strap to hold him in to a non-enclosed flying vehicle. I mean I know the chance of pulling enough unintentional negative G is probably low, but I’d really prefer a bit more security than that!
He is exactly, precisely the type of pilot I don't want.
Looks like a lot of fun, except, I will never put my life in someone else's hands like that.
I used to fly like that but I kept spilling my beer...
Then you didn't do it right, the centripetal forces would keep the beer in the glass right?
"Hey, you wanna go up with me in my ultralight??" No.
Wimp. 😹
Yes you are a baby back wussy! I would love to go on a flight!
Tell that to Randy Rhoads
@@thelastrebelshow1627 stfu 😐
@@friendly.arsonist4851 Aww, did this video get your panties in a bunch? 😹
Pilot or not, I don't like people like him in general.
The Last Rebel Show lol no one fell for anything. You missed Clear Adventure’s point.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 exactly! Someone else noticed that. He literally just put the nose down and did a turning decent. I've done enough stall training of my own.
Total dipshit - I don’t even like jokey flight attendants
@@jimray2281 Lol, right? May we all not be cocky pilots, but respectful and solid ones.
I'm a pilot now but many years ago -- I had a flight instructor take me on what's called an 'introductory flight' when they see if you want to actually train to be a pilot. The guy was kind of a cowboy, doesn't do the standard briefing, etc then once we're airborne says ,"do you want to go for a plane ride....or do you want to go for a REAL plane ride?" I was 18 and said ok sure let's go for a REAL plane ride. This guy proceeds to do stalls, steep turns, spins, wing overs, etc. He was cackling the whole time...felt very unprofessional and as the years have passed, I have decided that guys like that (and in the video) aren't doing this for YOUR enjoyment, they're doing it for THEIR enjoyment. There's a thrill in scaring people or wowing people with your skills. I don't care for it, but if the passenger in that video liked it, so be it.
I wouldn’t fly with this guy if he paid me in gold bullion.
The guy in back thinks 'If I only keep smiling I'll live."
This has convinced me I don't have the mentality for ultralights. I have a very active imagination that is always asking "what if?"
I guess you don't drive cars either?
@@davemould4638 I do drive cars, and it does get crazy out there. But, I don't fly ultralights, parachute or run with the bulls. You do make a good point, and I have to practice suspending my imagination when I drive.
@@pcm7315 Amazing as it may sound to you, there is a lower probability of serious injury or death while flying or skydiving than when driving a car in the suburbs. Your fear is probably fear of the unknown. If you were to do the training to become a pilot or skydiver, you would gain some understanding of exactly what risks there are and are not, and probably lose your fear. But of course its not something that you should do if you have no interest in those activities, as there would be no point.
Just thinking about it.. he’s probably the same guy that put his kite together with half the bits he didn’t need in tool box on the ground. Stress and fatigue are real issues.. I bet he wouldn’t be so cocky when the wings fold up.
This was actually part of my training as a microlight pilot in the UK stall and spiral recovery
I was thinking the same thing. When I was taking flying lessons my 2 uncles who were pilots said do a 720 sping (2 complete circles) and learn to pull out. My instructor said it wasn't FAA required. We did it and I learned a lot. Still flying today and yep still doing stalls and spins. Oh that was 50 years ago.
@@kenhurley4441 thats well and good but don't endanger a ridealong.
Really, interesting to know which UK instructor is teaching people to do over 90 degree wing overs!.
@@johnhunt7065 he is no longer an instructor this was over 20 years ago
@@johnhunt7065 probably none it’s a powered hang glider for god sake‘s when you get instructional on one of these I don’t really think it’s to do loops and barrel rolls and high-speed maneuvers I think they show you go to behave yourself and not do stupid shit and adhere to a basic common sense approach to handling one of these
I flew on one of these with a competent, no nonsense pilot. It was great fun.
If I was this guys back seater, when/if we got back on the ground......I woulda punched the face of him.
Now going to listen to
Simon & Garfunkel's
Sound Of Silence
His electric trim allows for hands off flying ... that trutted wing probably handles +6G to -3G and they maybe did +3G at max ... motor off enhanses the experience ... and that avoids the tight turn gyroscopic stresses on the prop, gearbox and engine mount ... electric restart ok ... and it has a ballistic chute ... its all good ... trust me ...I'm an arm chair expert.
electric chair expert?
My flight instructor once told me: “....there are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are NO old, bold pilots....”. Idiot show off WILL kill someone someday....
They do it for a living...
It was a turning descent. He called it acro but it wasn't even acro. He operated within the aircraft's design parameters and his abilities and he did it with plenty enough altitude to spare. What did he do wrong? You are aware that companies design, build, and sell aircraft for the sole purpose of acro, right?
@@twistedpixel2558 Don't explain everything to everybody.............but in general some light crafts are pretty strong.......
There is one old bold pilot that I know of, his name is Brigadier general Charles "Chuck" Yeager.
@@twistedpixel2558 This wing is absolutely not certified for acro, no hangglider is. That said what was being done here is nothing crazy, the wing is rated at 6g positive, so it's not going to break just by doing a basic wingover and some loaded turns.
"For my last trick, I'm going to collapse the frame and we'll descend at about 120 MPH!"
Clowning around in any aircraft, particularly with an inexperienced passenger is to be frowned upon and when it gets to pretending to fall out of the aircraft, this type of "showing-off" is a positive no-no and he should be reprimanded at least, if not, have his licence revoked.
Discouraging and reprimanding, of course, but wanting their license revoked? That's just controlling...
@@ChadDidNothingWrong License suspended for a while will give him time to think. Total revoking may not be in order, if he learns a valuable lesson. If we think if that as controlling, great. Maybe he needs someone to put him into check befire he kills someone or himself.
@@watcher818 -Countless countries/nations/cultures around the globe are "Totally safe, For the People's own good",
their Controllers do Not allow this..., Or Anything else ;{
I just figured out who not to fly with in the future.
Aww, did the video scare you. Wimp!
@@thelastrebelshow1627 Read the other posts. Am I the only one? No. So fuck you! Big guy behind the keyboard.
If that were me behind him, he would be an ex pilot.
Bruh man was in full control at all times your just a pansy.
@@zebculture839 Control has nothing to do with risking your life on some bolts
@@camtwan1 What? You risk your life every time you wake up and do anything. It’s calculated risks.
The guy in the back is scared shitless, the more scared he is the more he pretends to laugh.
this is the guy that after they hit ground and die.....people say, "he was so safe and responsible, and was just so under control" lol
My first experience FLYING an aircraft was in 1981...my dad and I got trained in ultra lights...we joined a club..got our training in the QUICK SILVER MX...had to give it all up when the club bellied up..after that I got my private pilots LICENSE..but my ultra light training helped alot
I'm a 2000 hour pilot, with about 800 hours in a Quicksilver MX, most of the rest in taildraggers like the Cub and Globe Swift. I would never fly with this guy.
Plot twist: exceeds do not exceed limit for his craft, aluminum bars snap, nylon shreds and they plunge to their deaths with that jackass laughing gleefully.
I'm reminded of that age old saw, there are old pilots and there are bold pilots......
Shouldn't count on lady Luck always being there!! That's what this guy is doing!
Please Kermit just land the plane without making a scene
I’m subscribing just for the inevitable.
Good comment, lets hope there is a live stream 😂
He won’t be able to post it!! Not worth your time!
I wouldn't fly on that contraption even if chuck Yeager was pilot in command.
Funeral services were held yesterday for the pilot. The passenger is in a full body cast with twenty three broken bones.
It's not a spiral of death if nobody dies. At best, it's a spiral of near death.
Pilot "Plus I forgot to mention, at the end of our flight, now that we're on the ground, as a surprise special treat, we check our underwear and get two large surprise brownies! No extra charge, you all come back now ya hear?"
The “pilot” couldn’t have been any more irritating. I’d have slapped the helmet right off his head just to shut him up and taken my chances!
“Let me show ya sumthin”.
Fire marshal Bill.
“Theres old pilots, and theres bold pilots. But never are there old and bold pilots.”
I love to see the reaction from the manufacturer Airborne. I know the wing is capable to handle the loads but if you are consistently doing this on your flights, I trust you are thoroughly versed on checking for fatigue, deformation of the bolt holes etc. I’m not being negative, just concerned how far you push it with a paying customer
I'm sure that's some of the things they check every flight.
The problem is to check the spars and fittings that have the greatest compression loads are inside the wing., and not visible to the naked eye. I’ve lost a friend doing similar manoeuvres, had a structural failure and not even a ballistic chute saved him. I’m sure he is a great pilot and does take every precaution but as you get closer to the edge of the envelope with a passenger, risk is a factor that must be taken into account, not just for yourself.
@@kimkeam2094 Exactly. They probably sign a waiver before they go too
@Kim Kemal - totally agree with you. Stress on a hanglider/ultralight wing in this way (especially with two onboard) is a lot higher than this clown appreciates. I have seen foldups before - they are ugly and heart-wrenching. Both pilots in those incidents were very experienced - one was performing acrobatics, the other was hit by a gust of wind. One guy died. The other pilot, a woman, fortunately had sufficient altitude to use a reserve ‘chute but her injuries were bad. She never flew again as a result.
His style is maybe over the top, but all of these maneuvers are low g. Nothing is going to break.
Guys, this guy is not actually performing "death spiral". He's literally just putting the nose down and doing a turning descent. If you've flown before and done stall training it's very obvious that he's note stalling the wing and causing a spin.
If there is an FAA man out there I hope you already pulled the license.
Why because the video scared you? He did nothing unsafe. You have no idea what you’re even talking about.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 Maybe he was not at immediate risk, but playing the fool and showing off at 5000 feet is just idiotic, especially with a passenger on board. Not cool.
@@jimhunt4874 NO! You’re just a total wimp! What he’s suppose to fly wings level and straight forward at all times? Does the passenger look concerned? Do you see the ballistic parachute attached to the trike? Ever herd of aerobatics? Even birds play in flight! Do us all a favor and stay in your house where you belong! 😹
@@jimhunt4874 5000 feet is exactly where you do aerobatic maneuvers ! You’re just showing you know nothing! You sure don’t do them at low altitudes! You’re a disgrace to men!
@@jimhunt4874 Even birds play in flight. Face it boy the video made you crap your depends! What a wimp!
Think I'll stay on the ground instead. I'm all for a good adrenaline rush, but I'm not ready for that sudden stop at the end
I wouldn't ride a shopping cart with this guy.
I'd always fancied a bit of the old microlight, but this havering git has managed to cure me completely of any such aspiration. On the other hand, the more time he can spend somewhere up in the sky, preferably on his own, the better.
I'd take that unfit-for-flight 1940 Taylorcraft Trevor Jacob flew, in that condition, any time before getting into an ultralight, goddamn those things are scary.
This reminds of the granny connected to her instructor but they forget click all her buckles. He was basically trying to hold onto her as she had slipped out of her harness. Still amazes me she did not break every bone upon landing. There is a vid.
It might be his 10,000th flight, but that's no reason for such a caviler attitude. His days are numbered. I'm sure at the memorial service everyone will agree he died doing what he loves.
This pilot should be grounded forever. What a really nice guy risking the other mans life.
When the kite-pilot sounds like your drunk uncle with large fireworks at the family’s 4th of July picnic, it’s time to find another means of getting a thrill.
When did Shaggy get his flying license? Ro ray raptain!
The term ‘talk under water with a mouth full of marbles’ comes to mind. If I was the passenger I think I would have jumped.......lol.
Wimp.