@@Zampa1233 nah definitely not a ''wasted'' talent sure he could have achieved more but calling Neymar a wasted talent is like calling Ronaldo Nazario or Van Basten wasted talents, its a shame that he didn't do more but he was in the era of the 2 all time greats and still light up the world for a number of years
Neymar being the best player, but having nothing to really show for it is his career in a nutshell. While maybe he could join a club like Real Madrid or Man City and win more trophies, at 32, it's hard to see him gaining any individual achievements anymore. He still could find his form, play for Brazil next World Cup, and have things turn around as he is easily the youngest player mentioned, being only 32 right now. The Prince who was Never a King is a name that will haunt the sport tbh. I will be telling my grandchildren about how good Neymar was
Iniesta is underrated and overshadowed in Messi and Ronaldo prime when iniesta himself was in his prime, iniesta had everything a midfielder could dream of! Everybody think of lewa, Neymar, modric, benzema, Suarez, Zidane ok they are up there but don’t forget about iniesta
Not to mention…Andrés Iniesta is One of the Most Decisive Football Players Of All Time.. He is 7-0 in Major Finals (WC, Euro & UCL) and has a good argument to be the MOTM in all 7 of those games.. In fact, Iniesta is the only player in Football History to be the MOTM in the finals of the WC, Euro & UCL.. Not to mention he has scored some very important and decisive goals for Barça & Spain.. Eg - 2010 WC final & 2009 UCL Semifinal
im sorry to say this but xavi is the 3rd best player of this generation.He is the 2nd best player in barca history.Barcelona won its las UCL in his last season and will never win it in along time.
Neymar was supposed to be 3rd 😕, had he stayed at Barcelona he would have possibly been in the goat debate. “We all admired Messi and Ronaldo but deep down we wanted to play like Neymar”
Manuel Neuer is the only correct answer for that question. The greatest goalkeeper of all time, no questions asked. Revolutionized the position and except when he was injuried he is always in the conversation for goalkeeper of the year, and for a period of about 8-10 years there was not a conversationbecause it was always him, by far. To this day, he's the starter for Bayern and Germany, and no one even dares question it. And I didn't even mentioned the titles he has.
@@MutuAdrian335 Nah, they can dispute the second place. Buffon and Casillias were my Idols growing up and I'm a Borussia Dortmund fan since 2010. All those guys can dispute second place, Neuer resume speaks for itself.
Leaving out Greizmann only shows how increasingly underated he is. If not for real Madrid's influence Greizou would have win ballon dor 2018, and maybe 2016. Love the fact that you included Dani Alves. Great content.
Greizmann was the best player at the Euros by a big margin. Additionally, he was one of the best players in the UCL and la liga. The only thing that hindered him were trophies and the Real Madrid/ Barca influence. In 2018, he actually deserved the ballon dor.
@@d3w222 it’s still just not clear cut, Neymar, neuer, Luis Suarez, lewandowski, bale, modric, all third best player in the world at one point or another, they just weren’t as consistent as those two
@@thenextcr7 but that once third best player could still be one of the top 10 players in the game at some other point.Which is why Iniesta and Neuer makes the most sense if you ask me.Suarez undoubtedly had the best prime years tho
this is probably the most reasonable and fair takes on this thread. this video was very bad in my opinion because the criteria used is not right to determine greatness
In my opinion this has to be Lewandowski, basically won 2020 ballon d’or and should have won 2021 as well. He dominated the Bundesliga for a decade and is still going strong in la liga. In my opinion without a doubt the third greatest player of the generation.
Shouldn’t have won the balon dor in 2021 Messi literally was clear in every stat both did mid in the ucl and lewandowski ghosted in euros while Messi did an all timer copa America
There are two options: -First a player that played with Cristiano or Messi and helped them achive the impossible: Like Xavi,Iniesta, Xabi, Modric, Kroos,Benzema, Ozil, Suarez,Neymar ... -Second a player that achived the impossible at their own: Like Zlatan, Muller,Lewandowski, Lahm, Neuer, Salah, De Bruyne, Drogba ...
Well, we should talk Xabi at Liverpool/Bayern, Modric at Spurs, KROOS at Bayern, Benzema at Lyon, Ozil at Arsenal, and Neymar at PSG then. Zlatan played with Messi btw. I agree most Bayern players are amazing but they're collective like prime Madrid and Barca. All of them are achieving something together. Lahm, Lewy, and Xabi are once all teammates but what did they achieve outside Bundesliga and DFB Pokal? they didn't achieve anything else outside those 2. Xabi in Liverpool was truly amazing. Modric at Spurs was the reason Madrid bought him and he fought his way in his early stint. Bayern was just releasing KROOS and the rest is history. Benzema in Lyon is also the same with Modric. Maybe Ozil and Neymar is a downgrade but that's fit your second description especially both play in team with less European history (Neymar in 2020 and Ozil in 2016 truly amazing. Being runner up in prem and UCL. Even 2016>2023-2024 Arsenal)
Müller most underrated look at his stats over 350 goals and over 350 assists in over 700 games that's is double the amount of assists and goals of zizou
@@xeyezzxx Muller has 329goals, 314 assists in 926games, for club and country, if you think he's better than Zizou, then bro please get a reality check
For the Ballon d'Or and UEFA POTY, I think instead of counting just 3rd or 2nd place votes, in a situation like this you should go with the top-3 non-Messi/Ronaldo players (with huge extra points if they finished above either of them during their prime). So in seasons where Messi and Ronaldo were 1st and 2nd, look at 3rd 4th and 5th as the Ballon d'Or for mere mortals. So we see who'd win or get in the podium for Ballon d'Ors in a world where Messi and Ronaldo are disqualified for being too good I think not including Player of the Tournament awards is a big miss here. Those are more meaningful than top goalscorer awards or positional awards because they represent a greater achievement. Golden Ball was included for World Cups but other than that there's still POTT things like Xavi being Euro 2008 Player of the Tournament, Iniesta being Euro 2012 POTT, Suarez being 2011 Copa America POTT, Suarez being 2014 EPL Player of the Season, etc Suarez missed out on votes for a lot of individual awards because of the controversies around him like the biting players which made media voters blacklist him during his very best years, which may be understandable but using individual awards like FIFA team nominations does underrepresent how good he was. This video missed Suarez's EPL player of the season awards from his insane season with Liverpool. I think winning POTS in a major league is probably even more impressive than being the top scorer If I had to pick one guy on this list to carry an ok team, it'd be Suarez with the goals, assists, playmaking and competitive intensity. His season with Liverpool was the best EPL season of the 2010s. Neymar could've been great at carrying but we can never tell because he spent his prime in Ligue 1 with PSG, all skill aside he didn't have the same competitive fire and intensity. Alves overachieve a lot as the driving force of those Sevilla teams but not the way Suarez did. And a playmaking forward who can create for himself will inherently be more able to carry a team than a finisher who needs support, a midfielder that needs good forwards to actually convert midfield dominance to wins, or a defender I think you got this right though. If I had to pick based on greatness, it's Iniesta. He probably has the best big-game resume in football history. He was a game-changer as sub in 2006 UCL final, amazing in the 2008 Euros, saved Barcelona in the 2009 UCL semis, imperious in the 2009 and 2011 UCL finals, scored the winner in the 2010 WC final, completely dominated Euro 2012 start to finish, MOTM in the 2015 UCL final. The best player on the best international team of all time and the 2nd best player on the most dominant team of all time. Modric is probably next after Iniesta in terms of greatness based on what he's accomplished I think Griezmann should be on this list, he's definitely not 3rd but he was the best player on a World Cup winning team, led Atletico Madrid to league titles in the Barca/Madrid superteam era, won La Liga POTS during the Messi/Ronaldo peak. If we count greatness through World Cups and leading your country to a WC as their best player, and in winning things in very difficult circumstances, in terms of greatness he's underrated and unquestionably belongs on a shortlist
@@DevangDarshik WTF are you even yapping? You dont get anything being 2nd,imagine not winning a La Liga after playing all his life in it. Moreover the only good trophy he has is the WC,other 2 are Nations League and the Europa League Lmao.
Its so so fcking obvious that the third best player of this generation is neuer,he's an all timer he's in the debate with goalkeeper from previous generations like buffon,casillas and yashin And he have the biggest legacy as a goalkeeper,he's literally the goat of his position
For example if you said that ney is the third best,you still have top wingers like bale,ribery,di maria,robben,salah If you said dani alves is the third best,u still have top wingback like Marcelo,jordi alba,walker,lahm If you said ramos is the third best,u still have pique,vvd,chiellini,t.silva But if u said neuer is the best goalkeeper of this generation,people will agree with you,there are no goalkeeper that as great as neuer in our generation
I don’t care about keepers. Watching goalkeeper highlights is only fun to goalkeepers, only love them and respect for what they do for my club and country.
I'd argue Ronaldo and Messi overshadowed their generation so much that we forgot to look at how many amazing players we've had aside from the two of them.
From ability stand point and quality it think its obviously Neymar but if we look at career it's either Iniesta or Modric it's up to the personal preference what do you want
@@ARCPolusGermany might be the best league right now btw look at football outside their country in Europe Germany performance is by far the best premier league talk so much but in champions league they are ass
Finally someone agrees with me that Neuer is the actual top 3 of this generation. The guy is top 3 goal keepers of all time, won everything in club and international level ( except Euros ), won golden glove, won 5 IFFHS goal keeper of the year, 3rd place in the ballon d’Or behind Messi and Ronaldo.
Bro nobody cares about population. Its about quality. Yes lewandowski won 0 trophirs with poland. But with your logic china would have to have a full squad of messis, ronaldos and neuer
@@kad9947 sadly, Karim Benzema. He isn't consistent like the other 9s on this list like Suarez or Lewandowski. Thomas has been in his prime since his debut, a far more versatile player than Benzema, and is more tactically astute.
After watching the whole video I can see that u didnt really add skills of the players wich would make Modrić by far the 3rd Greatest Player Of This Generation
@@z0rome_ Traditional systems can heavily impact a players ability and for years Messi played in Barcelona’s and Scaloni’s systems that catered to his needs. Theres a lot of videos that demonstrate how the tactical prowess of a traditional system made Messi far more efficient compared to other less traditionally based systems. I respect your opinion tho too bro.
Oliver Kahn was third in Ballon d‘OR rankings TWICE. In 2001 and in 2002. Yet you didn’t include him in the list of goalkeepers that made top 3 Ballon d’Or. strange
Obviously Rooney...more Assists and goals, UCL, Premier League like if you remember the 2010s there was no no bigger name than Rooney after Ronaldo and Messi..
Rooney was a 2005 to 2015 player, not 2010s. During Rooney's reign in PL, Torres and Van Persie overshadowed him for a few years. Then you also had Fabregas, Gerrard and Lampard who were consistently great.
Seriously you gotta be kidding me, we have 2 sooooooo good players that dominated like 2 generations that we have to debate on who's the better player after them. Like no way this guys existed, i don't think our kids, grandkids and people following that are actually going to believe these two even played
If we are talking pound for pound peak performance, i believe it's Suarez. If we are talking unique skill level it's Iniesta. But perhaps he and Xavi being on the same club and national team at the same time makes them cancel each other out a bit too much. But if we also factor in longevity and how relevant he has made Croatia, it has to be Modric, right?
@@cavy369 Neymar and Messi are the reasons why Suarez's outputvin 15/16 was ridiculous, they've said it before cos they didn't want Ronaldo to win the golden boot, and if you watched prime Neymar from 2015-2021, which you clearly didn't💀, you'd know that was one of the best peaks an attacker could reach.
@@cavy369 I already did lol, and yes that's probably one of the best if not the best individual season in prem history, but you're acting as if Neymar's peak wasn't as impressive.
Your content reminds me of Jxmyhighroller, i dont know if you know about his videos. But i‘ve been searching for somebody who makes exactly this type of content but about football, using statistics and graphs. Youve earned my sub for sure, great video
Dude I just realized you only have like 400 views on this… it deserves more and honestly I thought it would have thousands of views. Keep up the good work.
@@KidneyJones Agreed. Without THE SYSTEM, there's no way Argentina would have received a record number of penalties to win the WC. Argentine got 5 penalties in 7 games. meanwhile at the Euro, there were 6 penalties in 38 games. See the problem?
@@TonyMontanaDS If Ronaldo won the WC the same way Messi did no one woould have a problem with it, France had 4pens in 2018 but you lot didn't seem to have a problem with that💀, but since Messi won it it's "rigged"🤓, joke of a fanbase, take away pens from all of Argentina's games and they're still WC champions, cope harder😂😂😂
everyone should understand that winning the ballon d'Or in 2018 against 30+ year messi and ronaldo is hard but iniesta didn't won because he was doing it in the real prime messi and it's was impossible to win
Sneijder won the treble in 2010, made it to the final of world cup with Netherlands. I think he was close to top scorer in world cup and pulled good numbers in every competition for a midfielder, and you barca ppl still think Iniesta deserved it coz he scored the winning goal
iniesta is the second most skillfull player I have ever seen people nowadays have no idea when I tell them how good iniesta was his skills, dribblings, game IQ, passes, shots and just the way he did things when you watched him was unbelieveable the things he did on the pitch were so difficoult I can't even put it into words just magical
if you look at his 20s it could seem that way but in a few years hindsight i think we will all view neymars career more as a what if than a complete success. i wouldve said he has had the 4th or 5th best career in this generation, much higher than they put him in this video.
i mean at barca he was easily the third best player in the world, but in ligue 1 he never really lived up to expectations. was supposed to be face of the league until his last couple of seasons, when mbappe really emerged as the best player in the league. he also couldve won a ucl with them which i believe was one of if not his main goal. he didnt and instead never made more than 22 league appearances and only played like 60% possible games. i mean he was always injured and chose to give up on his european career at barely 31. so, basically, he followed the same path as eden hazard?? he is a much more talented player than that and could have been so much better. no player who burns out of europe at 31 should be considered the third best of his generation.
I gotta disagree with this. Personally I’d put Lewa 1st (and this is a coming from a BRAZILIAN), Modrić in 2nd (that was deserved), Iniesta 3rd alongside Ramos (both are equally iconic for the Spanish and have been incredible club wise and in their respective positions), and 5th I have to go with Neymar. I’ll never forget the Magician title he was given, he may have been riddled by injuries, but he is undoubtedly great. The other 5 are interchangeable and I don’t have much of a want to scramble, but I’d say this: 6th: Benzema 7th: Dani Alves 8th: Neuer 9th: Xavi 10th: Suarez (sorry)
Suarez. He did what mmbape couldn’t do. Win champs league with Messi and neymar. Without xavi and iniesta too. Won la liga with athletico after deemed too old by Koeman iirc. Beating messi’s Barca. Along with many other feats
i think the points system for the average rating could be better and the points could be awarded based on the difference between the rating as you said 0.13 points average rating could take modric to first spot such a massive difference in the output should not be there for very less increase in the input. Btw everything else was good in the video like giving lewa credit for ballondor.
Saying you chose the match rating because you didn't want bias by position, but then seeing forwards do much better at that metric (not a surprise tbh) and just going forward is a bit weird
the argument that Modric is better than Iniesta and Xavi because he plays for smaller team is just stupid. a wc is a wc and if spain won it then it's because they were the best and had the best players.
@@nascimentoarantesyeah coz sum1 who won 6 champions leagues and a Ballon dor isn't as good as players that won much less than that😂modric and kroos > them, and yunno it, you're just a barca fan and can't hack it
@@stepbro69038you reply 1 year later and act like you are smart. My point still stands. Modric played in the premier league, he was nothing special, all those Spanish midfielders were all more highly rated than him at the time including Fabregas and Alonso who were Premier league stars. Going to Madrid boosted his profile with better players and structure but that changes nothing. How much impact did he have in those wins? This last season how much did he really contribute to the champions league win? Not much. Xavi dominated football in the midfield from 2008 to 2013, no midfielder even comes close. He won it all, won it all. Stop being foolish. A great player is a great player and I do not support Barcelona.
Football talent wise , i can tell you that the 3rd best "attacker" in the world in messi and ronaldo "prime" years 2008-2014 were ibrahimovic and rooney
Great video, however if you ask 1000 kids who grew up during that era who was the greatest, everyone will say Neymar. You see new wonderkids like Yamal popping up and saying Neymar inspired the way they play, you never see anyone saying that about Iniesta or Modric...
Honestly, for me that’s what tell me Neymar was the third greatest. For me being great is not about simply the titles you won, but about leaving an impact and your name in history. People will never forget Neymar.
Neymar performance, talent, impact, technique, skills:💀☠️ Neymar carrer trophies:🗑️😔 Unfortunately, Neymar's only major titles are the Libertadores and a single UCL. That's why he needs to win the 2026 World Cup, people need to understand what a genius Neymar is, his career can't end like this
@@kuldeeprathore2131 Iniesta won the WC with an insane spain squad... Villa, Xavi, Ramos, Capdevilla, Casillas, all insane players. The croatia squads in 2018-2022 were very good, but nowhere near to the spanish squad, making it much more impressive that modric carried those teams.
It should be like Iniesta,Modric,Neuer as the top 3 best not in a particular order.....followed by Muller,Suarez,Lewa,Xavi...What more does Neuer has to do to be among the best....
It's a shame how the fact that Neymar has had such a poor career makes him highly underrated, individually speaking in terms of talent, technique, etc. he is a legend, and for me he is better than many players who place above him and winners of Ballon'dor(I won't name any specific ones because I don't want to argue with anyone about it)
Iniesta also has the Player of the Tournament from Euro 2012 as an individual award, and Xavi does for Euro 2008
both are goats in their own aspects dont compare them to messi or penaldo they have a different role in the game
@@SourikMukherjeeVII-FRoll40Pessi and Ronaldo *
Please stop arguing according to me cr7 is penaldo he may be your goat keep your opinions within you
@@SourikMukherjeeVII-FRoll40 Ronaldo makes 200m a Year meanwhile you're broke 😂😂
Too funny ironical.
Messi Has most goals in calendar year[91]
neymar is like 30 but all the other players have practically already had their careers
And he is in camel league 😂
@@Zampa1233 such a shame because he is one of the best players ever and id love to see him archive more in his career
@@corester3018 such a wasted talent
@@Zampa1233 nah definitely not a ''wasted'' talent sure he could have achieved more but calling Neymar a wasted talent is like calling Ronaldo Nazario or Van Basten wasted talents, its a shame that he didn't do more but he was in the era of the 2 all time greats and still light up the world for a number of years
@@corester3018 k but he is one of the overrated player…in this era
Mostly his fans and brainless kids rate him as the third best player🤣😂
Suarez. The man won Golden boots in Prime Messi-Ronaldo Era.
He barely won it and messi and neymar fed him goals near the end of the season
Neymar is better overall
True
@@wingedhussar1453Don’t Start,He’s Overrated,Wasted Player
Oh my goodness, this is the comment of the day😂@@jaydennguyen-xk1yo
Neymar being the best player, but having nothing to really show for it is his career in a nutshell. While maybe he could join a club like Real Madrid or Man City and win more trophies, at 32, it's hard to see him gaining any individual achievements anymore.
He still could find his form, play for Brazil next World Cup, and have things turn around as he is easily the youngest player mentioned, being only 32 right now.
The Prince who was Never a King is a name that will haunt the sport tbh. I will be telling my grandchildren about how good Neymar was
I don't think he want to play in real Madrid since he came from Barca
@@justinsmShould've never joined Barca in the first place
Suarez is the player with 2 nd most assists in the history and has > 500 goals
He is the 3 rd best player of this generation
Hes not even the best Uruguayan footballer of his generation
@@RsgNoisewho is better
@@RsgNoise u are tweaking 😂
Forlan obviously
@@RsgNoiseForlan?😂 Suarez is clear bro
Iniesta is underrated and overshadowed in Messi and Ronaldo prime when iniesta himself was in his prime, iniesta had everything a midfielder could dream of! Everybody think of lewa, Neymar, modric, benzema, Suarez, Zidane ok they are up there but don’t forget about iniesta
Agreed. Prime iniesta could have won 2010 ballon d’or and 2012 ballon d’or if Messi and Ronaldo didn’t exist.
Iniesta was not good at pressing and midfield deffending and being flexible in many tactics wich Modrić was great at.
Can u give me evidence of that coz that just ur opinion@@Hotziemniok
Not to mention…Andrés Iniesta is One of the Most Decisive Football Players Of All Time..
He is 7-0 in Major Finals (WC, Euro & UCL) and has a good argument to be the MOTM in all 7 of those games..
In fact, Iniesta is the only player in Football History to be the MOTM in the finals of the WC, Euro & UCL..
Not to mention he has scored some very important and decisive goals for Barça & Spain..
Eg - 2010 WC final & 2009 UCL Semifinal
im sorry to say this but xavi is the 3rd best player of this generation.He is the 2nd best player in barca history.Barcelona won its las UCL in his last season and will never win it in along time.
The world forgot that muller existed. That’s crazy 💀
Bro did better than everyone in 2014
Fr I'm not even a german or bayern fan yet he has my respect
probably the best player in the world cup along with neuer, but cristiano was the best that year
And 2010 world cup
@@Quipie no. His World Cup performance was disappointing.
Toni Kroos was the best player in the 2014 world cup.
neymar the prince that never became a king.
The prince who never wanted to be king
@@Himanshu_7945then he should of just stayed in Barca
@@jf8188should've
🤓☝🏼
@@jf8188He still would have been injured. Why is it so hard for people to catch onto that?
Its manuel neuer without a doubt he revolutionized the gk position
He actually did
if youre talking about the sweeper keeper he didnt "revolutionise" that
@@person-qy7ti he is the best sweeper keeper of all time
cry more
You're actually right. 😂
Neuer is what people see in Buffon.
I think Iniesta was the best choice, you nailed it
Agree
Neymar was supposed to be 3rd 😕, had he stayed at Barcelona he would have possibly been in the goat debate. “We all admired Messi and Ronaldo but deep down we wanted to play like Neymar”
Neymar was supposed to be the goat
Easily the 2nd most talented player of this era ahead of ronaldo 😢
@@Zaghzackio hell no
@@pridhvim3013 in terms of talent yes
He’s still 3rd best after Messi and Ronaldo
Manuel Neuer is the only correct answer for that question. The greatest goalkeeper of all time, no questions asked. Revolutionized the position and except when he was injuried he is always in the conversation for goalkeeper of the year, and for a period of about 8-10 years there was not a conversationbecause it was always him, by far. To this day, he's the starter for Bayern and Germany, and no one even dares question it. And I didn't even mentioned the titles he has.
Bro,again,I responded to u.Lev Yashin,Buffon,Van der Sar,Patrick Cech...
@@MutuAdrian335 Nah, they can dispute the second place. Buffon and Casillias were my Idols growing up and I'm a Borussia Dortmund fan since 2010. All those guys can dispute second place, Neuer resume speaks for itself.
@@MutuAdrian335 Only Buffon and Yashin are better than him. Neuer is the best player after Messi and Ronaldo in our generation.
@@MutuAdrian335 Rene Higuita
Leaving out Greizmann only shows how increasingly underated he is. If not for real Madrid's influence Greizou would have win ballon dor 2018, and maybe 2016. Love the fact that you included Dani Alves. Great content.
Griezmann is unique
lol ronaldo dominated in every stat in 2016 + he won the UCL and euro, griezmann was not even close
@@Chad-be3jm griez was the closest to winning the baloon do or in 2016. literally 2 goals away to win both.
Not quite same generation
Greizmann was the best player at the Euros by a big margin. Additionally, he was one of the best players in the UCL and la liga. The only thing that hindered him were trophies and the Real Madrid/ Barca influence. In 2018, he actually deserved the ballon dor.
There isn’t one. Fernando Torres was 3rd best player in the world at one point. It was just rotating cast of third best player in the world.
average it out though, if they were third 1 year what were the the other years?
@@d3w222 it’s still just not clear cut, Neymar, neuer, Luis Suarez, lewandowski, bale, modric, all third best player in the world at one point or another, they just weren’t as consistent as those two
@@thenextcr7 but that once third best player could still be one of the top 10 players in the game at some other point.Which is why Iniesta and Neuer makes the most sense if you ask me.Suarez undoubtedly had the best prime years tho
this is probably the most reasonable and fair takes on this thread. this video was very bad in my opinion because the criteria used is not right to determine greatness
Yeah, Ribery and Griezmann should make this list by this logic. Bale and Suarez never be 3rd best at one point though.
Antony in 2008 was a different gravy🔥🔥🔥
In my opinion this has to be Lewandowski, basically won 2020 ballon d’or and should have won 2021 as well. He dominated the Bundesliga for a decade and is still going strong in la liga. In my opinion without a doubt the third greatest player of the generation.
Dominating Bundesliga quite a mix
Shouldn’t have won the balon dor in 2021 Messi literally was clear in every stat both did mid in the ucl and lewandowski ghosted in euros while Messi did an all timer copa America
Lewandowski,still consistent,almost 700 career goals and 200 assists 🐐
Lewy is 634 goals
@@justinsm660*
There are two options:
-First a player that played with Cristiano or Messi and helped them achive the impossible:
Like Xavi,Iniesta, Xabi, Modric, Kroos,Benzema, Ozil, Suarez,Neymar ...
-Second a player that achived the impossible at their own:
Like Zlatan, Muller,Lewandowski, Lahm, Neuer, Salah, De Bruyne, Drogba ...
Suarez did things on his own in Liverpool.. I would argue he deserve to be on that 2nd list also.
Good perspective my friend
@@Freestyler-rr and him winning laliga with Atletico is a really underrated feat imo
Well, we should talk Xabi at Liverpool/Bayern, Modric at Spurs, KROOS at Bayern, Benzema at Lyon, Ozil at Arsenal, and Neymar at PSG then. Zlatan played with Messi btw. I agree most Bayern players are amazing but they're collective like prime Madrid and Barca. All of them are achieving something together. Lahm, Lewy, and Xabi are once all teammates but what did they achieve outside Bundesliga and DFB Pokal? they didn't achieve anything else outside those 2. Xabi in Liverpool was truly amazing. Modric at Spurs was the reason Madrid bought him and he fought his way in his early stint. Bayern was just releasing KROOS and the rest is history. Benzema in Lyon is also the same with Modric. Maybe Ozil and Neymar is a downgrade but that's fit your second description especially both play in team with less European history (Neymar in 2020 and Ozil in 2016 truly amazing. Being runner up in prem and UCL. Even 2016>2023-2024 Arsenal)
Drogba lol aguero and Rooney are both better than him
Müller most underrated look at his stats over 350 goals and over 350 assists in over 700 games that's is double the amount of assists and goals of zizou
@@xeyezzxx Muller has 329goals, 314 assists in 926games, for club and country, if you think he's better than Zizou, then bro please get a reality check
@@xeyezzxx It's 2024 lad, everyone rates Muller and knows how good he is lol😂😂😂
Iniesta and modric 🐐
No only Iniesta modric not even top 5
@@haurelkrouba9536 ye bro b dor 6x ucl is not top 5 XDDD
@@haurelkrouba9536modric is now better player
@@BlueThanosMasterRonaldo did that bro, stop talking rubbish
@@fofizz Yeah, on the bench 😂
For the Ballon d'Or and UEFA POTY, I think instead of counting just 3rd or 2nd place votes, in a situation like this you should go with the top-3 non-Messi/Ronaldo players (with huge extra points if they finished above either of them during their prime). So in seasons where Messi and Ronaldo were 1st and 2nd, look at 3rd 4th and 5th as the Ballon d'Or for mere mortals. So we see who'd win or get in the podium for Ballon d'Ors in a world where Messi and Ronaldo are disqualified for being too good
I think not including Player of the Tournament awards is a big miss here. Those are more meaningful than top goalscorer awards or positional awards because they represent a greater achievement. Golden Ball was included for World Cups but other than that there's still POTT things like Xavi being Euro 2008 Player of the Tournament, Iniesta being Euro 2012 POTT, Suarez being 2011 Copa America POTT, Suarez being 2014 EPL Player of the Season, etc
Suarez missed out on votes for a lot of individual awards because of the controversies around him like the biting players which made media voters blacklist him during his very best years, which may be understandable but using individual awards like FIFA team nominations does underrepresent how good he was. This video missed Suarez's EPL player of the season awards from his insane season with Liverpool. I think winning POTS in a major league is probably even more impressive than being the top scorer
If I had to pick one guy on this list to carry an ok team, it'd be Suarez with the goals, assists, playmaking and competitive intensity. His season with Liverpool was the best EPL season of the 2010s. Neymar could've been great at carrying but we can never tell because he spent his prime in Ligue 1 with PSG, all skill aside he didn't have the same competitive fire and intensity. Alves overachieve a lot as the driving force of those Sevilla teams but not the way Suarez did. And a playmaking forward who can create for himself will inherently be more able to carry a team than a finisher who needs support, a midfielder that needs good forwards to actually convert midfield dominance to wins, or a defender
I think you got this right though. If I had to pick based on greatness, it's Iniesta. He probably has the best big-game resume in football history. He was a game-changer as sub in 2006 UCL final, amazing in the 2008 Euros, saved Barcelona in the 2009 UCL semis, imperious in the 2009 and 2011 UCL finals, scored the winner in the 2010 WC final, completely dominated Euro 2012 start to finish, MOTM in the 2015 UCL final. The best player on the best international team of all time and the 2nd best player on the most dominant team of all time. Modric is probably next after Iniesta in terms of greatness based on what he's accomplished
I think Griezmann should be on this list, he's definitely not 3rd but he was the best player on a World Cup winning team, led Atletico Madrid to league titles in the Barca/Madrid superteam era, won La Liga POTS during the Messi/Ronaldo peak. If we count greatness through World Cups and leading your country to a WC as their best player, and in winning things in very difficult circumstances, in terms of greatness he's underrated and unquestionably belongs on a shortlist
Griezz doesnt have any good Individual award....He doesnt have a league title,he doesnt have a UCL.
Nice one
Neymar didn’t have competitive fire and intensity?? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@PiyushKumar-wq9jd imagine some one being consistently 2nd for 7 yrs and u come here and say " but he never was first " 🤓👆
@@DevangDarshik WTF are you even yapping? You dont get anything being 2nd,imagine not winning a La Liga after playing all his life in it.
Moreover the only good trophy he has is the WC,other 2 are Nations League and the Europa League Lmao.
Its so so fcking obvious that the third best player of this generation is neuer,he's an all timer he's in the debate with goalkeeper from previous generations like buffon,casillas and yashin
And he have the biggest legacy as a goalkeeper,he's literally the goat of his position
For example if you said that ney is the third best,you still have top wingers like bale,ribery,di maria,robben,salah
If you said dani alves is the third best,u still have top wingback like Marcelo,jordi alba,walker,lahm
If you said ramos is the third best,u still have pique,vvd,chiellini,t.silva
But if u said neuer is the best goalkeeper of this generation,people will agree with you,there are no goalkeeper that as great as neuer in our generation
@@walterfritzzz 100% Manuel Neuer is the only correct answer for that question. The greatest goalkeeper of all time.
I don’t care about keepers. Watching goalkeeper highlights is only fun to goalkeepers, only love them and respect for what they do for my club and country.
@@xoahoo Naw that's the thing tho goalkeeper highlights aren't fun to watch unless it's neuer
@@TheVinnyCerezer What are u smoking,I want some.Lev Yashin,Buffon,Van der Sar,Patrich Cech......
I'd argue Ronaldo and Messi overshadowed their generation so much that we forgot to look at how many amazing players we've had aside from the two of them.
Neymar, Ineasta, Xavi, Modric, Suarez ordered from first to last
From ability stand point and quality it think its obviously Neymar but if we look at career it's either Iniesta or Modric it's up to the personal preference what do you want
Bruh lewa's got 630+ goals💀💀
in the german farmers league
@@ARCPolus ???
@@ARCPolus and 3rd most in the history of the champions league behind messi and ronaldo?
@@ARCPolusGermany might be the best league right now btw look at football outside their country in Europe Germany performance is by far the best premier league talk so much but in champions league they are ass
@@ARCPolus what? dortmund, leverkusen, wolfsburg, leipzig, schalke? they were alll very solid teams
There are just too many great players and coaches of this generation so its just too hard to say a definitive top 3, nor a definitve top 20
Is either neymar because of how he used to play or suarez for what he did
neur and it is not even close. The greatest goalkeeper of all time
Finally someone agrees with me that Neuer is the actual top 3 of this generation. The guy is top 3 goal keepers of all time, won everything in club and international level ( except Euros ), won golden glove, won 5 IFFHS goal keeper of the year, 3rd place in the ballon d’Or behind Messi and Ronaldo.
If hazard would have been consistent he would have been top 3 easy😊
He was even close to Salah let alone any of these players
"if"
Bro nobody cares about population. Its about quality. Yes lewandowski won 0 trophirs with poland. But with your logic china would have to have a full squad of messis, ronaldos and neuer
Thomas Muller not being on this list is blasphemy.
It is not a blasphemy if the players here are just superior. Who would you place Mueller to be better than one of these legends?
@@kad9947 sadly, Karim Benzema. He isn't consistent like the other 9s on this list like Suarez or Lewandowski. Thomas has been in his prime since his debut, a far more versatile player than Benzema, and is more tactically astute.
@@amarthya_raviget off
Suarez, Lewa, Robben and Zlatan
Zlatan and Robben are not even in the conversation 😂
In this list, only Neymar and Iniesta could do magical things out of nowhere. Modric is also pretty close but the former two easily win the eye test.
Özil??
1. Harry Maguire
2. Antony
3. Derrick Rose
Neymar is clear. Only player to be at the table with messi and Cristiano
Explain why
U just say Neymar and disappear, lemme tell ya, it’s not Neymar
@@xoahooits naymar and there is no doubt about it
Iniesta clears neymar@@nihalbhamrah4726
Hahahaha don't make me laugh lewa, neur , Xavi, Iniesta so clear
Its angel di maria
He's definitely underrated. He's a big game player, and not just for Argentina.
Left out Greizman & Muller. Said Benzema is better than Suarez. Idk man. Non the less there's a lot of work put in the vid so its still worth a like.
After watching the whole video I can see that u didnt really add skills of the players wich would make Modrić by far the 3rd Greatest Player Of This Generation
Also Iniesta was not good at pressing and midfield deffending and being flexible in many tactics wich Modrić was great at.
1. Messi
2. Ronaldo
3. Suarez
4. Iniesta
5. Modric
6. Benzema
7. Lewandowski
8. Muller
9. Kroos
10. Ramos
1. Ronaldo
2. Messi
3. Neuer
@@2closeforcomf0rtt sorry bro i respect ronaldo but messi is far better at every stat
@@z0rome_ Traditional systems can heavily impact a players ability and for years Messi played in Barcelona’s and Scaloni’s systems that catered to his needs. Theres a lot of videos that demonstrate how the tactical prowess of a traditional system made Messi far more efficient compared to other less traditionally based systems. I respect your opinion tho too bro.
Oliver Kahn was third in Ballon d‘OR rankings TWICE. In 2001 and in 2002. Yet you didn’t include him in the list of goalkeepers that made top 3 Ballon d’Or. strange
Yup
Amazing Video! Underrated definitely. Keep on the good work :)
Arjen Robben for me.
Obviously Rooney...more Assists and goals, UCL, Premier League like if you remember the 2010s there was no no bigger name than Rooney after Ronaldo and Messi..
Rooney was a 2005 to 2015 player, not 2010s. During Rooney's reign in PL, Torres and Van Persie overshadowed him for a few years. Then you also had Fabregas, Gerrard and Lampard who were consistently great.
@@cavy369 yeah but Rooney played ST , wing , CAM and cm
Seriously you gotta be kidding me, we have 2 sooooooo good players that dominated like 2 generations that we have to debate on who's the better player after them. Like no way this guys existed, i don't think our kids, grandkids and people following that are actually going to believe these two even played
While Neymar 5 years younger than all of these players 😂😂😂😂
And in Saudi 😂😂
Modric or Kroos honestly
Never Seen such constant players on the highest nieveau
And the succes agrees
Robben deserves a shout out
Wait a minute, Uruguay has actually won the world cup and their population is smaller than Croatia
If we are talking pound for pound peak performance, i believe it's Suarez. If we are talking unique skill level it's Iniesta. But perhaps he and Xavi being on the same club and national team at the same time makes them cancel each other out a bit too much. But if we also factor in longevity and how relevant he has made Croatia, it has to be Modric, right?
Neymar had a better peak than Suarez, 2015-2021 Neymar is one of the most RIDICULOUS primes of all time, easily top 5 peaks ever.
@@KidneyJones lies. Neymar had tremendous on ball talent, but could never match the output of Suarez's peak.
@@cavy369 Neymar and Messi are the reasons why Suarez's outputvin 15/16 was ridiculous, they've said it before cos they didn't want Ronaldo to win the golden boot, and if you watched prime Neymar from 2015-2021, which you clearly didn't💀, you'd know that was one of the best peaks an attacker could reach.
@@KidneyJones go watch Suarez in 13/14 szn for Liverpool and that team he almost carried to a PL title.
@@cavy369 I already did lol, and yes that's probably one of the best if not the best individual season in prem history, but you're acting as if Neymar's peak wasn't as impressive.
Comparing defenders and attackers is like comparing an engineer to a doctor
Your content reminds me of Jxmyhighroller, i dont know if you know about his videos. But i‘ve been searching for somebody who makes exactly this type of content but about football, using statistics and graphs. Youve earned my sub for sure, great video
The music
If you’re gonna include Xavi you might as well include Ronaldinho
I know everyone read the title and was like no shit that is a great question
Suarez, easily. Most underrated striker ever. Best striker I've seen after R9.
Dude I just realized you only have like 400 views on this… it deserves more and honestly I thought it would have thousands of views. Keep up the good work.
its very hard to pick anybody but i think Suarez is the best player ive seen aside from the big 2
Hazard if he never left epl
Hazard is like Messi, a one team wonder.
@@TonyMontanaDSRonaldo 1 rape wonder
@@TonyMontanaDS 💀, same Messi who won with Argentina?? lol, Messi is THE SYSTEM, the system is RELIANT on him not the other way around.
@@KidneyJones Agreed. Without THE SYSTEM, there's no way Argentina would have received a record number of penalties to win the WC. Argentine got 5 penalties in 7 games. meanwhile at the Euro, there were 6 penalties in 38 games. See the problem?
@@TonyMontanaDS If Ronaldo won the WC the same way Messi did no one woould have a problem with it, France had 4pens in 2018 but you lot didn't seem to have a problem with that💀, but since Messi won it it's "rigged"🤓, joke of a fanbase, take away pens from all of Argentina's games and they're still WC champions, cope harder😂😂😂
wasn't Oliver Khan also in the top 3 ballon d'or at some point?
everyone should understand that winning the ballon d'Or in 2018 against 30+ year messi and ronaldo is hard but iniesta didn't won because he was doing it in the real prime messi and it's was impossible to win
But in 2018 was unexpected how Modric won
Sneijder won the treble in 2010, made it to the final of world cup with Netherlands. I think he was close to top scorer in world cup and pulled good numbers in every competition for a midfielder, and you barca ppl still think Iniesta deserved it coz he scored the winning goal
1. Messi
2. Ronaldo
3. Ibrahimovic
4. Iniesta
5. Xavi
6. Neuer
7. Ramos
8. Müller
9. Modric
10. Busquets
11. Lewandowski
12. Suarez
13. Buffon
14. Kroos
15. Benzema
16. Neymar
17. Chiellini
18. Robben
19. Casillas
20. Griezmann
I don't think Casillas belongs to Ronaldo Messi's generation.
Griezmann, Hazard,Neymar,bale
Hazard 😂😂
@@110-y9e in his prime he was one of the best but all time no where near third or top 10
@@imadeamistake7151 he didn’t last long
Bale???💀💀💀
Hazard not in top 50 of all time..he will be in top 100
2018 ballond'or was simply rigged
Ye they just kept 1 away from Ronaldo for sure. Not saying modric's wasn't earned, def earned, but Ronaldo earned it more coz he was nutty
It is Modrić actually, ratings from Dinamo Zagreb in the UEFA competitions are not included.
that's not part of our generation, which broadly considered before 2009
@@BaboHeechan ?
iniesta is the second most skillfull player I have ever seen people nowadays have no idea when I tell them how good iniesta was his skills, dribblings, game IQ, passes, shots and just the way he did things when you watched him was unbelieveable the things he did on the pitch were so difficoult I can't even put it into words
just magical
just because neymar had the third most talent of this generation doesnt mean he actually ended up being the third best player.
Second most talent
Neymar was the third best player. Stop it.
if you look at his 20s it could seem that way but in a few years hindsight i think we will all view neymars career more as a what if than a complete success. i wouldve said he has had the 4th or 5th best career in this generation, much higher than they put him in this video.
i mean at barca he was easily the third best player in the world, but in ligue 1 he never really lived up to expectations. was supposed to be face of the league until his last couple of seasons, when mbappe really emerged as the best player in the league. he also couldve won a ucl with them which i believe was one of if not his main goal. he didnt and instead never made more than 22 league appearances and only played like 60% possible games. i mean he was always injured and chose to give up on his european career at barely 31. so, basically, he followed the same path as eden hazard?? he is a much more talented player than that and could have been so much better. no player who burns out of europe at 31 should be considered the third best of his generation.
@@Jean-PaulPlaisance-mz3tk Van Basten?
It's between Neymar and Suarez but really, Neymar could do much more and of he was luckier whit injury this wouldn't be a conversation
Iniesta no question
I gotta disagree with this. Personally I’d put Lewa 1st (and this is a coming from a BRAZILIAN), Modrić in 2nd (that was deserved), Iniesta 3rd alongside Ramos (both are equally iconic for the Spanish and have been incredible club wise and in their respective positions), and 5th I have to go with Neymar. I’ll never forget the Magician title he was given, he may have been riddled by injuries, but he is undoubtedly great.
The other 5 are interchangeable and I don’t have much of a want to scramble, but I’d say this:
6th: Benzema
7th: Dani Alves
8th: Neuer
9th: Xavi
10th: Suarez (sorry)
I’m sorry but this is a horrid take
@@aboy1134 that’s your opinion, i’ll take it
@@TABEM-10 respect
@@aboy1134 you too dude
Suarez. He did what mmbape couldn’t do. Win champs league with Messi and neymar. Without xavi and iniesta too.
Won la liga with athletico after deemed too old by Koeman iirc. Beating messi’s Barca. Along with many other feats
1.RONALDO AND MESSI
2.Suarez,neymar and hazard,bale,muller,kroos,di maria,neuer alot
3.salah and others
Neymar without a doubt
Kroos robbed
keep it up nice video
What about the under dog Di Maria
For me its neuer easily
Ribery Robben Pique Zlatan Pirlo Iker Buffon All Better Than Benzema
1st tier- Messi & Ronaldo
2nd tier- Suarez, Neymar, Ramos, Iniesta, Modric, Lewa, Neuer, Casillas, Chiellini
3rd tier- Marcelo, Xavi, Aguero, David Silva, Di Maria, Čech, Busquets, Dani Alves, Kroos, Benzema
4th tier- James Rodriguez, Bale, Özil, Thiago Silva, Zlatan, Hazard, Schweinsteiger
Chieline 2nd tier? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH
Hazard deserves 3rd and rodriguez should not be in the list
Xavi 3rd???
@@browhat6935yeah in my opinion he is the best midfielder of all time so third is crazy
@@SEELE_1 rodriguez wouldve fought for the first tier if he never went to madrid
7:40 why is the whole world forgetting about oliver kahn he came second
Sergio Ramos. Widley regarded as the goat defender. World class from 2005 until this day
eh idk today, his prime ended somewhere from 2019-2021
@@nevadaballmapping3772 his level at psg and Sevilla is just as good as madrid. He’s just not around as good teammates anymore
@@ayturkd5526 true
He's not the greatest defender.
Iniesta, Neuer, or Suarez
holy shit, youre so underrated, great video :D
For me its Lewangoalski
Neur is very underrated in this conversation , he has been consistent for his whole career I think he deserves to be considered.
He was considered
How did jorgino win fifa the best pplaxer award
People who said modrix is better than xavi inesta they are born after 2018 bro was a meme player before
people don't watch at defensive stats where modric is better
Bro inestia play at lw in final so just think about it and even got mom in wc fianal he is 3rd best @@marekwisniewski5823
Modric always been nuts what are you on about
@@marekwisniewski5823 only defensive stats not enough to compare uim with xavi inesta
@@arian-playzyt5147what are you talking about, how is he not comparable to them, please explain, i want to know you‘re immense ball knowledge ❓❓❓
Modric for sure.
Yeah if you started watching football in 2016
@@Batman1998- keep crying😂. Modric is goat since 2012
It is ramos without question
i think the points system for the average rating could be better and the points could be awarded based on the difference between the rating as you said 0.13 points average rating could take modric to first spot such a massive difference in the output should not be there for very less increase in the input. Btw everything else was good in the video like giving lewa credit for ballondor.
Saying you chose the match rating because you didn't want bias by position, but then seeing forwards do much better at that metric (not a surprise tbh) and just going forward is a bit weird
the argument that Modric is better than Iniesta and Xavi because he plays for smaller team is just stupid. a wc is a wc and if spain won it then it's because they were the best and had the best players.
Also tbh before Iniestas generation at Spain, I’d call it a small or mediocre team
It is a stupid argument. Modric wouldn’t make the bench for Spain between 08-2012.
@@nascimentoarantes exactly. people don't realise that
@@nascimentoarantesyeah coz sum1 who won 6 champions leagues and a Ballon dor isn't as good as players that won much less than that😂modric and kroos > them, and yunno it, you're just a barca fan and can't hack it
@@stepbro69038you reply 1 year later and act like you are smart. My point still stands. Modric played in the premier league, he was nothing special, all those Spanish midfielders were all more highly rated than him at the time including Fabregas and Alonso who were Premier league stars. Going to Madrid boosted his profile with better players and structure but that changes nothing. How much impact did he have in those wins? This last season how much did he really contribute to the champions league win? Not much. Xavi dominated football in the midfield from 2008 to 2013, no midfielder even comes close. He won it all, won it all. Stop being foolish. A great player is a great player and I do not support Barcelona.
Football talent wise , i can tell you that the 3rd best "attacker" in the world in messi and ronaldo "prime" years 2008-2014 were ibrahimovic and rooney
Great video, however if you ask 1000 kids who grew up during that era who was the greatest, everyone will say Neymar. You see new wonderkids like Yamal popping up and saying Neymar inspired the way they play, you never see anyone saying that about Iniesta or Modric...
Honestly, for me that’s what tell me Neymar was the third greatest. For me being great is not about simply the titles you won, but about leaving an impact and your name in history. People will never forget Neymar.
Neymar performance, talent, impact, technique, skills:💀☠️
Neymar carrer trophies:🗑️😔
Unfortunately, Neymar's only major titles are the Libertadores and a single UCL.
That's why he needs to win the 2026 World Cup, people need to understand what a genius Neymar is, his career can't end like this
luka modric clear of iniesta by miles
Yes
World cup
@@kuldeeprathore2131 Iniesta won the WC with an insane spain squad... Villa, Xavi, Ramos, Capdevilla, Casillas, all insane players. The croatia squads in 2018-2022 were very good, but nowhere near to the spanish squad, making it much more impressive that modric carried those teams.
@@motherlandst3454 umm you are right
But there were good players in croatia persic mandzucic and all
It should be like Iniesta,Modric,Neuer as the top 3 best not in a particular order.....followed by Muller,Suarez,Lewa,Xavi...What more does Neuer has to do to be among the best....
Luka Modric or Kareem Benzema
Turned it off once you left off the GOAT Buffon
It's a shame how the fact that Neymar has had such a poor career makes him highly underrated, individually speaking in terms of talent, technique, etc. he is a legend, and for me he is better than many players who place above him and winners of Ballon'dor(I won't name any specific ones because I don't want to argue with anyone about it)
Neymar. Thank you and goodnight.