These engines do not need any type of upper valve train lubrication whatsoever so that extra oil that's in your intake manifold he is simply condensation of the fuel/oil vapours mixed together in the process. When the vapours reach or intake manifold with it, obviously being a lot cooler than inside the engine causes it to condensate similar to your toilet on a humid day and then run down the side of your intake manifold. When I emptied mine, I had at least a half a litre that was taking a precious air space that could've been used for the combustion process. The PCM doesn't compensate for that space taken up by the oil which creates a performance issue. If you clean your throttle body once a year by removing it, you might be able to catch most of the oil before it goes into the actual intake manifold itself like mine had.. it took me 10 hours to wash out all of the engine oil that was caked on the inside of my intake manifold mainly on the bottom. I must've went through a bottle of dawn, dish detergent and hot soapy water along with cover cleaner and a leaf blower to blow everything out to check for any remnants of oil. Then I bought a baroscope to check the insides to make sure everything was moving OK and no more oil was inside. I cleaned up my throttle body as well and then when I put it all back together I thought I had a new truck. I didn't know what happened and then it hit me that all of that space that was being taken up by the oil, not to mention the degradation of the fuel and air mixture entering my intake manifold because of PCV GASES that robbed my fuel of octane. This is why the scan is very important. It doesn't necessarily net you any gains per se in horsepower but as far as performance, it allows your engine to run optimally with your oil lasting longer because it's not diluted from the fuel and air mixture by gases, thus increasing the light expectancy of your engine. as per for air induction system, it's a must an absolute necessity because of the added flow by due to the higher pressures inside the engine cylinders
Sweet build. What cold air intake do you run with your 6.4 intake? I have been looking at the sb cold air for 2014-2018 2500-3500, will one of those work out?
@TunedRAMS so I’m planning on buying one of these but I live where it’s crazy wet all the time do I need to put a cold air intake on the 6.4 or can I use the same air box with modified hosing?
So how did this mod work for you as far as low and mid power was it a feel able difference. Im considering the swap and tune with a full header back exhaust and then possibly a 75-100 shot kit for you occasional fun ...or a super charger like rhe ripp but the bolt ons bring me to about 330 awd and the shot 415-430 ...ripp about same but the nitrous is cheaper and keeps me a little more safe ticket wise since its only there when system is on ... vs 420+ anytime...i have a cdl but a heavy foot 😅
@@jesusb2244 I have a Hellcat throttle body on a ported 6.4 manifold. You will need an adapter plate, the bolts won't match up and the manifold throat can't be ported enough to match the 92mm size of the hellcat TB.
Are you still liking the intake manifold? I’m about to pull the trigger, but I’m going to go with the 6.4 injectors. I just can’t find info on which ones to get..
It will be ,you need to get rid of shorty headers they do nothing for you. All show and no go. Long tube headers is where you will see performance gains, and the manifold will give you all it's worth. Otherwise don't bother.
Im planning on doing that to my 20 rebel.but modern muscle extreme told me everything comes with the 6.4 intake. Only thing i had to add is spacers and c.a.i.and bettrr throttle body...any thoughts.
I still use 5w20 full synthetic. Some people have changed the weight of their oil and the key is to make sure that the mechanics of the engine can spread that oil during a cold start up. Especially OHC engines.
Nadie noto ese comentario..solo tu..yo si uso catch can.oil inside combustión chamber not good it all for pistons and valve seats..sorry if a have bad English lol.
Only for weed whacker engines. This oil in the intake does nothing more than lower octane and build carbon when burning in the pistons, in addition to screwing up cats as well if you have them.
@@Hillard-t3q gas weighs 6 lbs a gallon, an ounce or two isnt going to tip the scale. Both intakes had a little bit in the right side fuel rail, very small amount
@@sxykia nope. They use the same transmission. 6.4 and 5.7 are identical in terms of fitment except for displacement and the front timing cover That's the beauty of it, it's like a Lego, as long as you have the money to buy the parts, it's easy to make it work.
@@sxykiai I wouldn't waste the money swapping the motors 5.7,6.1,6.4 its the same short block 5.7s are stronger you can redline more. Cylinder walls are thicker i would just do forged crankshaft cam few other things um rebuilding my 5.7 now
These engines do not need any type of upper valve train lubrication whatsoever so that extra oil that's in your intake manifold he is simply condensation of the fuel/oil vapours mixed together in the process. When the vapours reach or intake manifold with it, obviously being a lot cooler than inside the engine causes it to condensate similar to your toilet on a humid day and then run down the side of your intake manifold. When I emptied mine, I had at least a half a litre that was taking a precious air space that could've been used for the combustion process. The PCM doesn't compensate for that space taken up by the oil which creates a performance issue. If you clean your throttle body once a year by removing it, you might be able to catch most of the oil before it goes into the actual intake manifold itself like mine had.. it took me 10 hours to wash out all of the engine oil that was caked on the inside of my intake manifold mainly on the bottom. I must've went through a bottle of dawn, dish detergent and hot soapy water along with cover cleaner and a leaf blower to blow everything out to check for any remnants of oil. Then I bought a baroscope to check the insides to make sure everything was moving OK and no more oil was inside. I cleaned up my throttle body as well and then when I put it all back together I thought I had a new truck. I didn't know what happened and then it hit me that all of that space that was being taken up by the oil, not to mention the degradation of the fuel and air mixture entering my intake manifold because of PCV GASES that robbed my fuel of octane. This is why the scan is very important. It doesn't necessarily net you any gains per se in horsepower but as far as performance, it allows your engine to run optimally with your oil lasting longer because it's not diluted from the fuel and air mixture by gases, thus increasing the light expectancy of your engine. as per for air induction system, it's a must an absolute necessity because of the added flow by due to the higher pressures inside the engine cylinders
Sweet build. What cold air intake do you run with your 6.4 intake? I have been looking at the sb cold air for 2014-2018 2500-3500, will one of those work out?
I use a Legmaker tube to 6.4 airbox
The 5.7 and 6.4 truck intakes both have active runners and flow very similar numbers
@TunedRAMS so I’m planning on buying one of these but I live where it’s crazy wet all the time do I need to put a cold air intake on the 6.4 or can I use the same air box with modified hosing?
You can use the same, modify it as r use the 6.4 air box like I did, let’s more air in. Slap a high flowing air filter in too
So how did this mod work for you as far as low and mid power was it a feel able difference. Im considering the swap and tune with a full header back exhaust and then possibly a 75-100 shot kit for you occasional fun ...or a super charger like rhe ripp but the bolt ons bring me to about 330 awd and the shot 415-430 ...ripp about same but the nitrous is cheaper and keeps me a little more safe ticket wise since its only there when system is on ... vs 420+ anytime...i have a cdl but a heavy foot 😅
@@yerwrng it works best with supporting mods and from what you’re saying, yes, it will help!!
I'm look for intake manifold for my 07 Chrysler Aspen 5.7 slowly working on
Still awesome they slapped a Hemi in those things, I’m pretty sure any 5.7 intake would fit
@@TunedRAMS like get tha 392 one looking around my air box is on the right side
@@TunedRAMS would any year 6.4 manifold for my 2005 300c
Why are the switching that say lock ontop the manuiful
Where can you fimd the 6.4 intake for 5.7 hemi ram I can’t find nowhere
@@NyquonWatkins they’re hard to find, try Moe’s or MMX, buy sell trade groups
@@TunedRAMS thank you
Great idea on the oil sticker. Because them Walmart employees who change the oil, well you know 😂
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Hey I jus got an rt Durango what parts do I need jus 6.4 manifold, or they more to it ?
Just what you see in the video!
My last question can I put an 90mm throttle body ?
@@TunedRAMS if I buy the 6.4 intake can I pay u to put it on lol
@@jesusb2244 I have a Hellcat throttle body on a ported 6.4 manifold. You will need an adapter plate, the bolts won't match up and the manifold throat can't be ported enough to match the 92mm size of the hellcat TB.
Do you need a tune right off the bat if im still going to run 5.7 injectors
@@samcasson4871 no, but the wot tables may
Are you still liking the intake manifold? I’m about to pull the trigger, but I’m going to go with the 6.4 injectors. I just can’t find info on which ones to get..
It’s still on the truck, you get one yet?
How many hours power if i exchange 5.7 to 6.4 manifold i have ram 2018
I have a 2008 5.7 can the 2014 6.4 manifold work with it.....? Ty
That man just did matt brown dirty 😂😂😂
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@@TunedRAMS hey, sometimes it be like that.
@@ethanbryant8903 That was Owens favorite emoji 🤷🏽♂️ but yeah that drama has ended, I don’t know who to believe anymore
My challenger rt 2016 have 3.09 lcd
And 6.4 shorty headers
And afe s3 intake
Is the ported 6.4 intake manifold worth it?
It will be ,you need to get rid of shorty headers they do nothing for you. All show and no go. Long tube headers is where you will see performance gains, and the manifold will give you all it's worth. Otherwise don't bother.
Can you use 5.7 fuel rail on the 6.4
Probably could with some modifications, but the fuel rails usually come with the 6.4 when you get one
Im planning on doing that to my 20 rebel.but modern muscle extreme told me everything comes with the 6.4 intake. Only thing i had to add is spacers and c.a.i.and bettrr throttle body...any thoughts.
Spacers for the 5.7 injectors?
Yes
@@wilheimreis8272 yeah everyone that has that manifold raves about it
@@TunedRAMS well i figured ill keep using my 91 canned tune. Spend $45 vs $250 for the tune itself without the spacers.for now.
@@TunedRAMS you need them to run your 5.7 injectors in the 6.4 manifold, otherwise you need to tune for the 6.4 injectors and then use those.
Wow that must be awsome
With early 5.7 non eagle intake to the 6.4 do you know of any additional things that may be needed other the than 5.7 eagle intake spacer
The sensors aren't going to match up, MAP and IAT, throttle body mounting, and maybe fuel line connection to fuel rail.
For someone thats not too inclined on building parts can u rate 1 -10 on difficulty. Dunno if I should just pay someone
I’d say about an 8 if you’ve never done it before.
Does the spacer go on top of the fuel injector?
Most go on top yes
I just did mine and those spacers MMX sends go on top of the fuel rail.
How much horsepower gain?
It’s more of a supporting mod gain, alone it may give 5hp, with a cam, fbo, headers, could give 15-20hp
I’m looking at building my Ram to push 1000HP, I need lots of advice to upgrade my 5.7L. Biggest problem I have is money as I know how expensive it is
1000hp? Yeah that’s going to cost ya. You’ll need a very beefed up transmission, rear end and a 5.7 stroked that can handle the boost!
@@TunedRAMS yeah it’s going to be expensive but hopefully worth it in the end
@@AngelofDeath333 any project is always worth it man!! It’s fun too
Just buy a trx engine and trans pull out it will be cheaper with less headaches.
@@joshkrause2977 absolutely
When you modify and engine for performance the factory oil recommendation is no longer relevant. 0w40 would be much better.
I still use 5w20 full synthetic. Some people have changed the weight of their oil and the key is to make sure that the mechanics of the engine can spread that oil during a cold start up. Especially OHC engines.
@@TunedRAMS 0w40 will flow better at startup than 5w20.
What else do I need with this change?
Tune alone?
I have flowmeter 50 HD muffler and upgraded air filter with gas paddle commander.
May not even need a tune unless you got the 6.4 injectors.
Upper lubrication? 😮
Nadie noto ese comentario..solo tu..yo si uso catch can.oil inside combustión chamber not good it all for pistons and valve seats..sorry if a have bad English lol.
Only for weed whacker engines. This oil in the intake does nothing more than lower octane and build carbon when burning in the pistons, in addition to screwing up cats as well if you have them.
Gasket between plutonium n intake is blown..... Common problem with them
You never flipped them over and did the runner size difference lol and it’s heavy cause it’s still full of fuel from your truck 🤦🏾♂️
You’re right! I did it in the other video SEE DESCRIPTION
perhaps the weight of the fuel in the rails account for most of the difference.
I was about to say that. That’s probably why its heavier
There was fuel in each manifold, not why
@@TunedRAMS someone shipped you an intake with fuel still in the rails?
@@Hillard-t3q yes, a little bit 👀
@@Hillard-t3q gas weighs 6 lbs a gallon, an ounce or two isnt going to tip the scale. Both intakes had a little bit in the right side fuel rail, very small amount
What throttle body did you use ? 5.7 or 6.4 ?
84 mm Fastman, fits both
5.7 & 6.4 use the same tb
Are you changing manifold, or huntin fo wabbits
I changed it, and it helps, trust me bro
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Why don't you put a 6.4 hemi in your truck?
Got too much going on right now, maybe one day
Transmission would need to be changed as well most likely.
@@sxykia nope. They use the same transmission. 6.4 and 5.7 are identical in terms of fitment except for displacement and the front timing cover That's the beauty of it, it's like a Lego, as long as you have the money to buy the parts, it's easy to make it work.
@@DL101ca That is good to know. Now ima swapp my 5.7 for a 6.4 in my 05
@@sxykiai I wouldn't waste the money swapping the motors 5.7,6.1,6.4 its the same short block 5.7s are stronger you can redline more. Cylinder walls are thicker i would just do forged crankshaft cam few other things um rebuilding my 5.7 now