@wcwcgarner2717 until you walk into the same area as a deer, and have to fumble around getting it out, or having it banging around, and get to watch him dissappear because you weren't ready.
I just recently when to a thumb button after shooting a wrist release for the the past 20 years. My groups are way better but I had to bring my peep way down and re-sight my bow in.
To reduce torquing the bow don't wrap your fist around the grip. After pulling back, keep the grip between your thumb and index finger, have the index finger point forward. Keep the rest of the fingers slightly off the grip, keep the bow level and release. It helps with accuracy, wrist release or hand held release. It works for me.
I own both and the wrist release just feels much better and more natural for me.maybe because I've been using them for so many years.plus a trigger release makes me nervous that I'll bump the trigger mid draw or i tend to punch it and hesitate lol
I swap between a Stan Perfex (thumb) and a Tru Ball execution. It took me a while but I was able to get a good "back tension" shot with the Tru Ball. I have similar group sizes with both, but POI for the index release is a touch left at 50 yards. I hunt with the tru ball because hand held is just more cumbersome to me.
I’d start with a wrist release then I switch to thumb but I was punching the trigger to hard and couldn’t fix that so went back to wrist release so far so good
I use both Wrist and Handheld, fanny think I have both of them on a wrist straps to not loose them. In terms of anchor I think i is a matter of adjusting the length of the wrist one and the importance to have it configurable. I got Spot Hogg wrist on BOA simillar to the Cam Hanes used. Second is a UV handheld on also a boa wrist strap from NockOn.
Alot of times when u switch releases, you will need to do a peep sight adjustment. I use the same index release, and at 60 yards i hold 1inch groups touching. Hope this helps, and tes practice with ur gear to get better. Put the thumb release away, until ur index groups tighten up.
I had the stan onnex thumb release and it would go off randomly. I tried everything and even took it to a pro shop and couldn't fix the problem. I returned it and got a carter wise choice. I couldn't be happier.
I’ve been by y’all’s shop quite a few times trying different releases out and have always went back to my TF wrist release with trigger. Your guys adjusted my peep sight and draw length accordingly to see if they’d work out for me. And they haven’t made enough improvement to my shots and groupings to make it worth the money to me. I can constantly hit a 10” paper plate at 70yds with my 2019 PSE Evo 35. To each their own and another great video
A.O.P sells release holders that mount to your bow. Total Peep has a clip that mounts / sticks to the release and it clips to your bow string. 2 new product that just came out.
i have a wrist strap from native archery for my t.r.u. ball max pro + and its the best of both world and they made the strap to were you can tuck it in the strap
I shoot the stan onnex thumb.i got a native archery traditions wrist strap for a handheld release. Its not made for pulling but it has a spandex slot that holds your release until you need it.has a landyard to attach through the connection of the 3 and 4 finger attachment.used it all season. Highly recommend.
There’s a magnetic release holder by advanced outdoor technology (AOT) that you put on your bow. Brian Gritty has a video on it in his newest “Bow Setup” video. Very interesting and really practical. I’m gonna pick one up soon
I just started my archery journey today. I have both a thumb button and a wrist release and I have tried them both and I prefer my thumb button. It feels more natural to me, and like everyone said it was easier to find their anchor point. The wrist release is too short for my big hands and I feel like i'm having to squish my hand in to get my finger in position where I can squeeze the trigger off.
Different releases will change your POI. Between my Stan Axis and TRU Ball Max4 Pro+ thumb releases, the former gives me a 1/4" nock right tear through paper, while the latter gives me perfect holes. Stick with one release and tune your bow to it.
Have you tried the Stan's Axis? It is a thumb release with a wrist strap and is targeted towards hunters. I am hopefully going to get one here soon and give it a try
Those do seem nice. Clipping a thumb to a string just seems like a recipe for disaster during the moment. It’s why I carried a backup release in my Bino pack this season but that axis would solve the need for that
Throw a layer of Kilz primer on that caribou, then get some outdoor house paint and you can save that nice target! Plus, you can make them look even more lifelike. I’ve got targets like that that are 15 years old that still look new. As a warning, when the foam gets exposed to the elements, they really start to fall apart.
One problem is that draw length between a wrist and release is a difference of about 1/4 in. That is why the anchor point doesn't feel right for the wrist release. Hope that helps. With a wrist release, treat it as a gun trigger. You don't use the second falange of the finger. You use the finger tip.
You reckon torque is involved? With the twisting as you settle in with the thumb button that could effect POI and the reason its more difficult to acquire your peep?
We are located in Jacksonville North Carolina. Appreciate you taking the time to check our videos out. Unfortunately, we are not a darton dealer at this time.
For hunting I greatly prefer to have the hand held release clipped on the D loop. Soon as I pick up bow (hunting whitetail) the release is already there. All I have do is draw bow.
I RARELY ever see deer walking in. I get in and up in tree before they get up and start moving. Run into some on way back to bedding every once in a while. I use thumb button that is in my pocket. If I wanted to take a shot I could have it ready in few seconds. I have literally never had a shot on a whitetail from the ground with a compound bow in the open. Once I get in the tree I hang bow and clip thumb button on the bow. @@WolfinWolvesClothing713
Wrist releases move around and are susceptible to weather (stiff/loose). I mean for hunting.. no problem. But if you're doing 3D tournaments and stuff you want consistency of a handheld.
I shoot way better with the thumb button I had to use a nose button with the wrist but I didn’t have to move my peep any but I fletch my arrows so far back my vane touches my face barely it suck to spend 300 bucks and go back to a wrist
I cant use a hand held and switch the a wrist release.. because I have to move my peep and re sight in.. Its a different anchor point so the peep is not going to be in the same place. Changing your release aid also can effect your bows tune through paper
Set up a kisser button with the release you really want to use, & your problems may be solved. I wouldn't shoot a peep without a kisser button, but that's me.. I wouldn't trade my TruFire Hardcore wrist release for anything else.
I shoot a Scott Ascent hinge release because I find super comfortable and it’s fully adjustable. I think with the handhelds because the back of your hand is against your jawbone you get a much more positive and repeatable anchor point.
Hand held is more accurate. Hands down, no question about it. Way more comfortable also, better anchor, more consistent. (When both are used correctly)
Your groups are way left with the index because of the way the jaw opens with the index release. You are also comparing a bad ass thumb button to a mediocre index. You have your bow set up with a thumb button, that doesn't lend itself to a fair test with the index release. I think the biggest factor is between your ears. If the thumb button is what lets you break clean shots... that is the clear winner.
The wrist straps get in the way hunting for me, adding or removing layers, making noise when I hit my stand etc.. I like a thumb button hanging of my d loop.
Most of the time I agree with this. And just switched switched from a truball wrist release to a B3 Versa Pro and everything was still dead on. Just a little tighter groups with the thumb button
I’ve been shooting a hinge for almost 3 years now. I love it.
If you loosen the screw holding the finger extension and pull the extension out, you can slide paracord in there to make a wrist sling.
If your bow is set up for a thumb release, the peep will always be out of place with a wrist release and vise versa.
This is correct ! It shouldn’t be left right issue it’s goin to be high low issue due to different anchor points
Thumb button release is the way to go. You get a much better release on your shot
@wcwcgarner2717 until you walk into the same area as a deer, and have to fumble around getting it out, or having it banging around, and get to watch him dissappear because you weren't ready.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 orrrr attach it to your dloop and don’t touch it until you have to….. then you can avoid all of that.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 I have killed more animals wt a bow. Then you can dream of. Stop being a troll
I just recently when to a thumb button after shooting a wrist release for the the past 20 years. My groups are way better but I had to bring my peep way down and re-sight my bow in.
Hmmm, same here for 25 yrs just switched , I had to raise my peep
To reduce torquing the bow don't wrap your fist around the grip. After pulling back, keep the grip between your thumb and index finger, have the index finger point forward. Keep the rest of the fingers slightly off the grip, keep the bow level and release. It helps with accuracy, wrist release or hand held release. It works for me.
I own both and the wrist release just feels much better and more natural for me.maybe because I've been using them for so many years.plus a trigger release makes me nervous that I'll bump the trigger mid draw or i tend to punch it and hesitate lol
I swap between a Stan Perfex (thumb) and a Tru Ball execution. It took me a while but I was able to get a good "back tension" shot with the Tru Ball. I have similar group sizes with both, but POI for the index release is a touch left at 50 yards. I hunt with the tru ball because hand held is just more cumbersome to me.
I’d start with a wrist release then I switch to thumb but I was punching the trigger to hard and couldn’t fix that so went back to wrist release so far so good
Was doing the exact same also lol,went back to wrist release
The most straightforward and honest vid yet, regarding this topic.
Thanks for checking us out!!
I use both Wrist and Handheld, fanny think I have both of them on a wrist straps to not loose them. In terms of anchor I think i is a matter of adjusting the length of the wrist one and the importance to have it configurable. I got Spot Hogg wrist on BOA simillar to the Cam Hanes used. Second is a UV handheld on also a boa wrist strap from NockOn.
Alot of times when u switch releases, you will need to do a peep sight adjustment. I use the same index release, and at 60 yards i hold 1inch groups touching. Hope this helps, and tes practice with ur gear to get better. Put the thumb release away, until ur index groups tighten up.
I had the stan onnex thumb release and it would go off randomly. I tried everything and even took it to a pro shop and couldn't fix the problem. I returned it and got a carter wise choice. I couldn't be happier.
I’ve been by y’all’s shop quite a few times trying different releases out and have always went back to my TF wrist release with trigger. Your guys adjusted my peep sight and draw length accordingly to see if they’d work out for me. And they haven’t made enough improvement to my shots and groupings to make it worth the money to me. I can constantly hit a 10” paper plate at 70yds with my 2019 PSE Evo 35. To each their own and another great video
A.O.P sells release holders that mount to your bow.
Total Peep has a clip that mounts / sticks to the release and it clips to your bow string.
2 new product that just came out.
Truball beast. Love that release... with the heavy spring
On my bigger targets like your caribou I’ll either spray dots or nail on paper targets on the ass end just so it gets used as a whole 🤙🏽
Thanks! Great video!
i have a wrist strap from native archery for my t.r.u. ball max pro + and its the best of both world and they made the strap to were you can tuck it in the strap
Need help if I want to to a thumb release. What’s a good hunting one?
You might have to lengthen the barrel of the wrist release to match the same face anchor point
I was hoping I found this comment so I don't look like repetitive joe 👍. Sounds right to me
Same with me that clicker was a game changer for me had that same index and stan solex
I shoot the stan onnex thumb.i got a native archery traditions wrist strap for a handheld release. Its not made for pulling but it has a spandex slot that holds your release until you need it.has a landyard to attach through the connection of the 3 and 4 finger attachment.used it all season. Highly recommend.
I've always hunted with wrist release, competition/3d/target handheld
There’s a magnetic release holder by advanced outdoor technology (AOT) that you put on your bow. Brian Gritty has a video on it in his newest “Bow Setup” video. Very interesting and really practical. I’m gonna pick one up soon
There's a small company that makes kyd3x ones too. I think his youtube channel is called archery releases at nauseum.
I bought AOT one and have it mounted on my Torrex had to rig it to work but love the magnets always on the bow when not in use. Well worth it IMO
Thanks bro appriciate this video!
I just started my archery journey today. I have both a thumb button and a wrist release and I have tried them both and I prefer my thumb button. It feels more natural to me, and like everyone said it was easier to find their anchor point. The wrist release is too short for my big hands and I feel like i'm having to squish my hand in to get my finger in position where I can squeeze the trigger off.
Nice!
Different releases will change your POI. Between my Stan Axis and TRU Ball Max4 Pro+ thumb releases, the former gives me a 1/4" nock right tear through paper, while the latter gives me perfect holes. Stick with one release and tune your bow to it.
Have you tried the Stan's Axis? It is a thumb release with a wrist strap and is targeted towards hunters. I am hopefully going to get one here soon and give it a try
Those do seem nice. Clipping a thumb to a string just seems like a recipe for disaster during the moment. It’s why I carried a backup release in my Bino pack this season but that axis would solve the need for that
Throw a layer of Kilz primer on that caribou, then get some outdoor house paint and you can save that nice target! Plus, you can make them look even more lifelike. I’ve got targets like that that are 15 years old that still look new. As a warning, when the foam gets exposed to the elements, they really start to fall apart.
Thanks for the tip!
One problem is that draw length between a wrist and release is a difference of about 1/4 in. That is why the anchor point doesn't feel right for the wrist release. Hope that helps. With a wrist release, treat it as a gun trigger. You don't use the second falange of the finger. You use the finger tip.
What bows are they using ?
You reckon torque is involved? With the twisting as you settle in with the thumb button that could effect POI and the reason its more difficult to acquire your peep?
Hello Zack where are you guys located at.? I enjoy all your videos. Do you guys ever get the new Dartons sequel 31 or The Darton prelude 32
I always shoot a wrist release I never shot hinge
We are located in Jacksonville North Carolina. Appreciate you taking the time to check our videos out. Unfortunately, we are not a darton dealer at this time.
@@extremeoutfitters thank you I'm watching all your videos from Pennsylvania
Would not the thumb bring the string closer to your face this making the shot to be more right then the finger release.??
Do you feel your draw length is off with either release? I was wondering if the thumb release can give you any more draw length.
No issues with draw length between the two.
For hunting I greatly prefer to have the hand held release clipped on the D loop. Soon as I pick up bow (hunting whitetail) the release is already there. All I have do is draw bow.
Good point
So you never see a deer while your walking in? Or you just let your release bang around all over?
I RARELY ever see deer walking in. I get in and up in tree before they get up and start moving. Run into some on way back to bedding every once in a while. I use thumb button that is in my pocket. If I wanted to take a shot I could have it ready in few seconds.
I have literally never had a shot on a whitetail from the ground with a compound bow in the open. Once I get in the tree I hang bow and clip thumb button on the bow.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713
That's not a good idea you can bump the trigger and lose a hand release. Mine is on my bino harness in an ivory holster, Robin Hood.
I prefer the spot Hogg keeton release. It's a combination of the two . Absolutely my favorite release ever
Does it change your draw length if you switch? seems like it is taking a few inches off on full draw.
I found my point of impact is to the left also.
You need to try the new carter whisper 2 it is awesome i also have the carter whisper that Jerry carter gave to me they are both extremely quiet.
You have to adjust your peep for the different releases
If you adjusted your peep for a better sight picture, while usung the wrist release, i thi k your groups would be better.
Peep is always low with the wrist release, if the bow is set for a thumb button
Went from a thumb to a wrist release with the same bow same setup?
What part of the country is that warm in January. I live in Central Alabama and its not that warm
You should get the whisper 2 from Carter enterprise and do a review on it
Wrist releases move around and are susceptible to weather (stiff/loose). I mean for hunting.. no problem. But if you're doing 3D tournaments and stuff you want consistency of a handheld.
You are sighted in for the thumb release which is why your wrist release is off. You have to sight your bow in with the wrist release.
How far is your shop from fort Bragg?
We are right outside of Lejeune so about 2 1/2 hours
Di you have any of the original scott wildcat wrist releases for sale at your shop?
Unfortunately we do not.
Just a question, what shoes are you wearing? They look like Salomons.
Salewa Mtn Trainer Lites
Hinge 💯%
I shoot way better with the thumb button I had to use a nose button with the wrist but I didn’t have to move my peep any but I fletch my arrows so far back my vane touches my face barely it suck to spend 300 bucks and go back to a wrist
I cant use a hand held and switch the a wrist release.. because I have to move my peep and re sight in..
Its a different anchor point so the peep is not going to be in the same place.
Changing your release aid also can effect your bows tune through paper
I keep my thumb bottom on my string
Men in short shorts will never stop being funny to me haha
Set up a kisser button with the release you really want to use, & your problems may be solved. I wouldn't shoot a peep without a kisser button, but that's me.. I wouldn't trade my TruFire Hardcore wrist release for anything else.
I shoot a Scott Ascent hinge release because I find super comfortable and it’s fully adjustable. I think with the handhelds because the back of your hand is against your jawbone you get a much more positive and repeatable anchor point.
Been shooting for over 50 years. I hunt with a button
Hand held is more accurate. Hands down, no question about it.
Way more comfortable also, better anchor, more consistent.
(When both are used correctly)
Your groups are way left with the index because of the way the jaw opens with the index release. You are also comparing a bad ass thumb button to a mediocre index. You have your bow set up with a thumb button, that doesn't lend itself to a fair test with the index release. I think the biggest factor is between your ears. If the thumb button is what lets you break clean shots... that is the clear winner.
I just lose shit all the time and seem to shoot fine for hunting out to 60 yards so i just stay with that haha. My biggest fear is losing my release.
Move sight left problem solved i mean...
That pse is loud 😮
Need to adjust the sights before doing a video as both sets were low n left of where you said you were aiming
I've always used wrist release but some of the comments here got me thinking to switch to handheld (I have one already just haven't used it much)
The wrist straps get in the way hunting for me, adding or removing layers, making noise when I hit my stand etc..
I like a thumb button hanging of my d loop.
Can't switch release without re-setting your bow🤷🏻... For my type of hunting I prefer wrist release
Most of the time I agree with this. And just switched switched from a truball wrist release to a B3 Versa Pro and everything was still dead on. Just a little tighter groups with the thumb button
I know this is on bow releases but wtf are you doing in the gym bro? Are you even in the gym or is it just straight outdoor gains??
My wrist strap always finds a way to hit the stand and make awful noises
😂😂
Use one that folds back.
Whatever gives you that extra inch of draw length 😂😂😂😂🤡
If you set up for a thumb button your peep will 100% be off for an index. Also you're punching the trigger bad on the index