Why I Resent my University Degree
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2016
- There are many things wrong with the education system. This is my unrelatable, I-wish-I-had-your-problems story.
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I got my bachelor's degree with honors in information technology from the top 4th highest ranked university in the country and let me tell you something Michele %90 of all subjects that we studied were outdated old materials only wasted my time and energy, I had to study individually all by my self so i can keep up with today's technologies,
It's unfortunate that most Universities has become just businesses to make more money
+ADAM DAVID I wish there was a dynamic, inspiring, interactive way to learn.
Ellellevlog Yeah, it would be really amazing
+ADAM DAVID I found a website recently called creativelive that looks promising. I plan to buy a course on photography once I'm done with the exam I'm writing in October
Ellellevlog That's gr8 good for you, I just checked the site and wow the design is spectacular! i'll re-visit it later on and see what they offer, btw i completed several courses on Udemy they have some good tutors as well
+ADAM DAVID I've done half of a free course from that site called 30 days of genius. It's excellent
I whole heartedly agree with you. Prerequisites are a cheap way for schools to get money. They're excessive, they're frustrating. I'll give some credit where it's due, some of the classes actually provide some important foundational support for the success in others, but I don't think two entire years worth of prerequisites is necessary. Most of that information I learned in high school, so I hardly tried at all and got all A's as well. It's good to acknowledge this issue, especially since our generation is going into debt for student loans, most of them don't graduate, and many of them don't make it past the second year. I don't think it's a coincidence. Killing the passion lol. I'm so glad I found your channel!
I'm finishing up my math degree this semester from UC Berkeley. I was able to knock out a lot of the classes I wasn't really interested in through community colleges and to take only math, physics, and computer science classes at Berkeley. The classes were HARD, but I learned a lot. Every year I would look back at how I was the previous year and be amazed at how much my thought process had matured. It was a grueling and difficult experience, but I feel incredibly rewarded to have been through it. I am now studying to become an actuary and have found your videos helpful for understanding what the job entails, so thank you!
I'm glad you felt that your experience was rewarding! Good luck with your exams!
I am SO happy I found an interest in being an Actuary and found your UA-cam videos because I need your advice. I do not have a degree and have been trying to work my way up the corporate ladder with the brains I currently have (lol). I currently hold an Assistant Compliance Manager position for a property management company reviewing insurance certificates, policy forms and ensuring all the contractors have the correct coverage's and insurance forms they need to be made compliant.
I LOOOVE my current job and I like working with insurance because it can at times be challenging and I enjoy a good challenge. I found the Actuary profession by taking a personality test and it was in there as a suggested career. Back to my point, I feel like there are so many weeds you have to get through before you actually get on course with ""what you're there to learn about"" and graduate with your degree, and I TOO do not want to WASTE my money. I have realized the education system is definitely broken quite sometime ago, in the mid to late 2000's to be exact. I feel like we went from a degree being (somewhat) optional to ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY and now everyone throws their eggs in one basket to get where they're going. But now, I'm noticing a lot of graduates are not finding positions in their desired career field because there's currently more supply and not enough demand. I want to move in the direction of becoming an Actuary and I *certainly* want the salary range that it offers. What would your advice be, can I work my way to it from where I am now or do I need to bite the bullet and shrug my way through a degree? Mind you, I currently have between 35 and 45 credits to an Associates.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Joe
I went to school got a degree and can't get a good job. I owe so much money and I'm so frustrated because I did everything I was supposed to do and I'm still struggling. I have a job at a call center not making shit. I was forced to take all these courses that I honestly didn't need. If I could redo all of this I would either take a trade up or computer science.
That's so unfortunate. The education system is really broken. Do you have potential for career advancement at the call center?
yes I do. I'm trying to get off the phones. I really want to be an analyst but all those jobs require 2 years experience. Like how am I going to get the experience if no one will hire and train me. It's all supper frustrating.
@@nicoyaterrell9185 what degree did you get?
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@@nicoyaterrell9185 I hope you found a job. There are so many jobs in Marketing.
I didn't go to university because of all the debt that my friends have gotten into and also, based on what you said, I had to take courses that I didn't even want! Also, my interests are in the arts, something you just learn from experience.
I understand where you're coming from 😊
+YoAntoNeo What do you do now?
I'm a part-time photographer and part time parking lot attendant for a popular restaurant downtown for major events, while I help filmmakers on the side (with acting, shooting, and sound) lol
Hey Ellelevlog, I really like that you specify the importances of exams and what to expect to being an actuary throughout your exams. I aspire to be an actuary as well; however, I haven't started studying for the examinations yet. I'm currently going into my third year at University, and majoring in applied mathematics with statistics; however, the material on the exams is being covered in my third year, and I feel I won't have time to finish one or two exams upon graduation. Do I have to pass one or two of the exams before graduating to get an entry level actuary position?
That's a really interesting outlook towards University. I'm starting my Mathematics degree this Saturday, excited for all the new challenges it'll bring and the level of independence I'll hopefully have!
Hope you learn a lot! Good luck with university.
Sidenote: what part of the world are you in that you start school on a Saturday?
I hope so too! Thank you for your kind words.
And I live in the UK, we mostly start around September.
Interesting! Our school week is Monday-Friday in Canada
At least our schools have one thing in common in that case aha
I think he meant he starts this September... ?? It's Mon-Fri in the UK too!
Totally could not relate more to this video. I’m currently an actuarial science major in my junior year and my classes are getting interesting now. My first two years were spent just going through the motions. The classes were easy and not something I liked, even though they were math. Even now, I find three or four of my five classes and the actuarial exams to not be challenging. Recently, I’ve been pondering on if actuarial science is the career for me because I really do want to challenge myself.
in Germany I pay 83 Euro per semester. I can choose all courses that I want.. I just dont have time for them
I'm in the same situation! Junior in university, 4.0 cumulative GPA for the last 3 years and graduated high school 18th in my class out of 410 with a 4.129 GPA. I feel bad about my grades when I KNOW I didn't try. The only reason my last semester was hard was because I took 5 classes/16 credits and worked 35 hours a week which meant the amount of time to complete all required assignments was pretty short...but I still got all As. It's a vicious cycle when you start off trying and then get busy and put in less effort...grades don't change...then you think well I don't need to try that hard because I have a 4.0 ...so you do other things...get more lazy...and still end up with a 4.0...reinforces that you don't need to try. I said back in high school as a sophomore that I better start trying because soon my brain isn't going to keep up and I won't have the studying skills to pass the harder classes....well now I'm a junior in college and I'm worse off than I was 5 years ago. By the way, I am a math/science person as well (: I took calc 1 over the summer, as required for my accounting degree, and I loved it and found it so easy that I wanted to try calc 2 to see how I did but unfortunately my scholarships don't cover non major classes so I can't take that...thinking about switching to an actuary degree but I don't have the confidence. I don't think I would be good at it. I really love your videos though, it is helping me be more informed about the work...maybe someday I'll take the leap (:
I remember my first semester I was talking to a friend of mine on the phone and said "college feels like glorified high school". On the other hand, I didn't discover my liking for mathematics until I was in college so it's kind of a mixed bag for me.
+SinlessRaNsOm glad university helped you discover your passion!
Lmfao! I really hope you see this comment and respond cause this is so funny to me. I'm doing exactly the opposite of what you said. I focus on the bigger picture cause I'm sooo pumped to become an actuary. So I learn the bigger stuff. But I don't remember the smaller stuff that I don't really need to, like the in depth proofs of certain formulas or whatnot, but I know how to apply them and I think it's cool. But I'm always tested on the smaller stuff and I'm failingggggg. My exams are not about applications much. And I always found it stupid cause soa doesn't are about proofs and you don't need to memorize formulas but in uni that's the focus. I study to learn to be an actuary, not to swot formulas but that's what my uni wants. It's a struggle. But anyway I'm suuupperrrr proud of you for getting awesome grades, gonna try doing it their way just to get through lol. This video helped a lot
I see all the comments 😉😉
Was looking through some of your videos (becoming an actuary myself) until you mentioned on this one Cegep and was like woah she's in Montreal too!
I did my math/actuarial recently at Udem and my god it killed my life drive, being tested in exams wasn't even about how well you studied but how bad the teacher wanted you to fail. Should have been more group projects to make you invest more and give more life to the program.
great videos btw! thanks for all the info
Group projects are the bane of my existence -_- lol
From an academic underachiever let me just say, that "learning" is the last thing going on at Uni today. Unfortunately for me, it kills my drive when I'm doing nothing but regurgitating useless crap day in and day out. That's just what education is today. The worst part about the whole situation is that, people that actually care and want to learn feel like they've wasted time/money. If my preferred field didn't require a degree, I'd drop out tomorrow lol.
+Erick Alden it's very disheartening. I would have dropped out too, but I needed the degree.. at least it's done now (for me)
+Erick Alden it's very disheartening. I would have dropped out too, but I needed the degree.. at least it's done now (for me)
+Erick Alden it's very disheartening. I would have dropped out too, but I needed the degree.. at least it's done now (for me)
This is kind of how I feel while I'm great full and honestly shocked that I finally got a bachelor's degree it took me such a long time. However, I felt I learned a lot and enjoyed the experience but I remember I was depressed and stressed all the time. Towards the end of my degree I started to realize that I don't really want to be an English teacher I'm dyslexic btw and I'm glad that I finished but since I graduated I'm getting a lot of pressure from my dad to apply to schools to teach English I'm broke right now and I'm almost considering doing it even though I don't want to just so I can get some money.
Hey Elle, I feel so pressured by my parents because they want me to go to the university so bad and i have tried going to college in 2016/17 2020 i would apply to and attend classes for a month or two and I would drop out because studying is just not for me I've checked out of it since high school I didn't even do my last year of high school and now 2021 I applied for communications degree at uni the beginning of this year my parents were so happy dad even said don't you wish you could've gone to uni earlier NO I DONT and i still don't but after the semester ended i dropped out and I dont know how to face them because so many times I told them I failed I never told them I dropped out of all the subjects I applied for. I think their dream is to take pictures with me graduating and I feel like I'm stripping away their dream from them, I feel so pressured and stuck. My lil sis doesn't want to learn either she's only 15, she doesn't wanna go back to high school next year and my parents pin her lack of enthusiam for school on me. I dont know what to do, I don't want to disappoint them again but I already dropped out though. I'm so stressed
I'm super young, and I can't *directly* relate to half of what you say, but I can empathize.
However, don't American (and may I even say Canadian) students pay for the experience of a university, also? Like, being around contemporaries that have similar interests to you, being allowed to go to specific venues or even research facilities, going out to sporting events, etc.? I get how you can probably be allowed those opportunities outside of a university, though.
I also like math, and I can say I'm not intellectually bought in in some classes. However, do you think that being exposed to this prerequisite courses can at least benefit you in a way of you being well rounded in your education?
Is it the fact that universities ultimately just make money off the classes they charge you with? I agree that's sort of unkind of them. I share similar sentiments (yet maybe not to the same degree) on the ACT tests.
I'm happy not to be the only one, as a fellow Montrealer actuary, can I ask you were you've been to school? I always get ask where to go for actuarial science degree and my personal experience at my university been bad, I would love to know if you could have great intel for youngster seeking actuarial education?
Good video! The new camera is amazing as well! What camera are you using now?
Canon T5i!
Sounds like you're a bit of a genius, so that's the problem, lol! Anyway, I wonder if a liberal arts person could learn to be an actuary *and* enjoy it. I have a JD, but I got it at a bad time and my career was killed off by the recession. I was good at math in high school, but dropped it in college. I'm looking into taking post bac math courses (which I admit I NEED and won't be a waste of time) to see if I can revive that side of myself. What attracts me about becoming an actuary is that it can pretty much be self taught. I take refresher math courses, then I can just decide when I am ready to take an exam and sign up for it. After taking two 2-day long bar exams, I know a thing or two about preparing several months to take a test. I honestly don't know if I can retrain my brain, but I'm going to try. Worst case scenario, I learn a little math that I forgot. Best case scenario, I kick start a new career. Still, I am wondering what your thoughts are on 1) whether or not a former English major might be able to learn the high level math needed as an actuary, 2) whether she might actually enjoy the job, and 3) whether or not she might get hired. Oh, I should also mention, another thing which attracts me to the profession (besides money, of course) is that I prefer to work alone in an office as much as possible. So what others might find boring and isolating, I find just perfect for my introverted self. Any advice would be appreciated. Right now, I am teaching writing at a tech college. I love it, but as an adjunct, there's no future there at all. I couldn't pay my bills if it weren't for my husband I'm afraid. Thank you! Heather
I'm a maths person myself, so let me answer this!
1) Forget it. Becoming an actuary is no easy task. Being good at math in high school means dogshit when it comes to actual mathematics (especially the pure variants)
2) You can learn yourself all you want but the exams are not doable for someone who doesn't have at least a master degree in mathematics or applied mathematics (sometimes even physics) or has the equivalent skills or experiences gained elsewhere. They are also very expensive.
Especially you being a law person, the kind of learning you need to endure to be able to work in a job like this is in no way shape or form comparable to law.
You would need to start completely anew. Is it possible? Theoretically, yes, but it will take you many many years to succesfully switch over. If you ask me, getting a real maths degree is the hardest of them all. 99% of people won't understand shit and give up in frustration.
If you prefer to work alone most of the time, then being an actuary is the right thing for yo Alsou! But never forget that even they need to present their ideas to others and explain what they did to people who do not have a background in math. Also, actuaries need to have a broder knowledge in law too! Yes, since they do risk calculations and need to know the rules of the country they are in, they have to learn the type of law stuff that pertains to their future job :) So at least here, you got a great leg up!
I did Maths and Statistics at university so probably did lots of the same types of courses! Personally, I found that classes which would have been interesting became more of a chore because of the pressure to get good grades and learn for an exam. I happened to be good at exams, but felt that I probably didn't get as much as I would have liked from the courses. Basically felt I was getting a grade at the end rather than a deep understanding.
Exactly this.
I 100% agree with you! I don’t see the point of “basics” in colleges if we already dealt with English and History in high school. I just want to get straight into mostly mathematics classes, not write essays over useless crap!
In my experience university is definitely a learning experience. I didn't get great grades like you, but I certainly didn't feel limited or constrained by prereqs or other mandatory courses. I've definitely had my fair share of bad profs though. Oftentimes mandatory courses exposed me to areas I wouldn't have otherwise been interested in. I also minored in english literature purely out of interest and nothing stopped me from doing that. I wish your experience was better!
+loveinseattle I'm glad you had a better experience than me! It gives me hope that someone learned something!
In my second to last semester, I took a creative writing course and it was excellent. I was able to do something unrelated to my degree and have fun. Loved it.
I totally agree with you besides the fact that I'm currently attending community college (because America just loves to hand out loans and put us in debt 🙃). Honestly the classes/prerequisites I have to take kind of make me want to second guess why I'm even continuing to get an education sometimes. Like I recently decided I want to be actuary and am still remotely lost on what pre-reqs I have to meet and why. I just hope that my schooling just continues to go smoother 😫
+himandeanda Thankfully I didn't go in debt for my degree.. but the lack of learning was really outrageous.
Hopefully you'll find a good advisor to help you pick courses!
Hey, what did you study in Cegep, as in the program?
Can relate, it's good to see more people of the same opinion. ❤
I've been meaning to comment on this one for a few days haha anyway. University is a...big issue honestly I could talk about the pros and cons of it for over 100 pages and I still would not have enough room to talk about everything. Alot of the prerequisites though I do agree with you I personally think that they are moreso weed out classes (in some cases not all) than really something that truely helps you with most of the classes that you want to take in the future.
Some professors have told me that alot of the prequisites that you have to take are really to just help your mindset such as for example C.S majors who have to take up to differential equations math courses for them are designed to help them think more analytically. Up to Calculus 2 I can understand that, but beyond that? Eh it seems kinda silly...same with alot of other majors. I'll stop here lol but yeah...university is really just a big ball of meh...meh....meh
I'm just glad to be done with it :D
So wait,you got A's in all your modules in acturial science?
Which university did you go to?
I went to school to be a writer. Halfway through I almost dropped out because I didn't NEED a degree to write. But then the negative part of my brain kicked in and told me that if I didn't make it as a writer, what would I do without a degree. While there were definitely classes that I enjoyed and learned from by the end of my undergrad, I knew exactly how little effort I needed to put into a paper (because writing major who didn't really have tests) and it was more of me exploiting the holes in the system than trying. I guess that's really my fault though. And then I went on to get my Masters so I could be a professor down the line and we did some of the exact same exercises as I did as an undergrad and I hated everything again. BUT I got those pieces of paper that I really don't use other than to craft eloquently passive aggressive emails :)
Have you been writing anything fun recently?
I'm in the 11th Grade. In Australia, we have English courses we can take at this time; English Standard, English Advanced and English Extension. I did my recent English Advanced assessment and got 100%. I did it on the last night. Someone else who worked really hard didn't. Idk, feels wrong, because I don't even care about my English course. It's mandatory! >:(
Now, in Extension Maths, something that I care about, I studied a little bit, but not every day, as is required to do well on those exams. The exams came around... I did SOOOO bad, because there were questions I hadn't even seen yet that were on the test. The reason I didn't study was because I always did well before without studying.
Before every English lesson, I could go on a rant about how I don't need to know how to analyse literature to do anything I would like to do. Wish I went to one of those schools where you could just decide to go to class or not and it was then in your hands, I think that would have made my education a more motivated experience.
+Coras Ⓥ the way that we're tested in school definitely isn't reflective of the amount of learning we've done in the course. That's for sure
I guess you went to Concordia. Most people that I know, including me, were not satisfied with this place. So that is why I am at UdeM. I am now studying math hoping to switch for actuarial math. The degree over there is not overloaded with useless class like advanced calc 2. If you went there I would understand your point.
If I was to start all over again, I would had Clep every single general education course while in highschool. But I didn't know Clep existed back then.
I have two semesters left at a highly respected state university and I am losing motivation day by day to finish my Accounting degree. All the instructor does is read off of powerpoint slides that were created by the textbook publisher, literally reading the SAME EXACT information that you can read in the book. I think the college system today is extremely ineffective and inefficient means to educate. For me, I am more of a self learner. I really hate having to sit hours in a class when I could just read the textbooks on my own time. I really think that instead of spending so much time in "lectures" that the school should just offer tests only, so then, once you study on your own time and ready to take the exam you then can take it and if you pass you get your grade. All students do is take exams anyway for the most part so they should just scrap the lectures. Luckily though, I have no debt which I am grateful for. I really need to get out of uni ASAP because it is making me feel very sick and nauseous lately, just the entire culture and what will be the culture of the workplace I may enter. Everyone experiences college differently because they have different situations and come from different backgrounds and have different interests etc. But in the end...I still think that the college system is an extremely inefficient and ineffective way to learn.
Gib Gob SAME HERE!!
How do you feel about your accounting degree now?
In every single one of my psychology classes the first two weeks were always devoted to reviewing the psych 101 material. Also, in most classes, we had to spend a full class period in the library learning to use the available resources. A lot of the theoretical material was repetitive as well. I regret my degree. I didn't learn anything valuable. I honestly could have taken maybe three or four psych classes and have the same amount of knowledge and understanding as with the full degree. It's totally unemployable too! Granted, it did help me get a job as a pharmacy technician... But that is a problem all on its own.
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I feel like my high school experience was awful and the way it was set up sucked. They didn't show me different things I could do in college or even have coding classes. Just HTML
I'm listening very contently because I have an interest in this career path. However, I have to constantly remember that your vid says RESENT not regret lol.
+monichan1000 haha
I love your work ethic. I am super lazy
I always find it really interesting listening to people from other countries talking about uni.
I loved uni a lot, but I have loads of friends who completely feel like they just handed over a load of cash for a certificate and not for much else. And now in the UK it's £9000, which it really doesn't seem worth
£9000 per semester or for your whole degree?
£9000 a year, so most degrees are £27000 in total
Definitely pricey!
The way you pay it back is really quite fair though. You don't pay anything until you earn over £21k a year and even then, you only pay 9% of whatever you're earning over that £21k benchmark a year. So, for say £22k, you'll be paying 9% of £1k a year... or £7.50 a month. Also, after 30 years, any remaining debt is completely written off!
Oh my god you live in Quebec me too!!!! Wat university did u go to?? I'm pretty good in math in high school is that good base to enter college and should I write my actuarial exam at the end of college if the opportunity comes. I'm just really confused and I don't want to make the wrong decision with college and whether I'm rlly certain if I want to be an actuary. Where u rlly sure from the beginning?? And also studying 2-3 months before taking an actuarial exam how do u remember all that info?? Sorry for all the questions😅
+Anila Giang you're never going to be sure of your future. There's no way. I know that it's scary to make a decision - because it's as if you're giving up all the other options for your life. All you can do is trust that you made the right choice, and if you decide that it was the wrong one, you can always change careers
thank you for the advice that rlly helped!!
I love your videos! I wish I could vlog like this.
You can! Just sit down, and chat for a few minutes. That's about it
I feel like when I do, I have nothing to say. It's super weird.
Oh don't you worry - I say nothing in the majority of my videos :P
Yeeeeh, that's me. Lol. Sitting. Staring.
hey ellen im doing the acturial science program like you did i am taking 4 classes this semester .i notice that i really dont have enough time to understand each topics and practtice enough before each exam and i study 24/7?would you recommend me to only focus on the exercices to pas my classes or keep focusing on theory ? i live in quebec also thxx
+OJB112007 do you mean school exams or actuarial exams?
yes school exams i would like to know what should i do to get A+ in my classes i am struglling right now just because i lack time to understand the theories and do all the problemss to master them .so should i only focus on doing exercices to get A+ in my exam classes? thank you for ur help
+OJB112007 that really depends on your learning style, and your teachers testing style.
Understanding the theory will help you understand the exercises. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Personally, I use the exercises as a way to understand the theory. I don't just memorize solutions to the exercises
Would you say that you spent more time doing exercises? Did you understand before doing the exercises or while doing them?
In the same program as +ojb112007 and I just feel that they push you too fast and skip to the next subject.
Did you read the textbooks before or after class to understand the underlying concepts beneath the theory?
How did you do to master the subjects at a fast enough pace to follow the professors?
I could relate to everything that you were saying in the video with my experience of getting an engineering degree. It feels like education systems everywhere need more changes than the govt.s
Have you finished your degree yet?
Yes, recently in September 2020
As a Computer Engineering student from Brazil going to college in the United States and currently taking Physical Education, Music Appreciation, Zoology and English Composition II, yeah I can relate. North America's education system is retarded and I'm constantly frustrated with it as well.
It's a little bit outrageous. What do you learn in Zoology? lol
"branch of biology that studies the animal kingdom, including the structure, embryology, evolution, classification, habits, and distribution of all animals, both living and extinct, and how they interact with their ecosystems." this pretty much, nothing I'll ever care to or need to remember after this semester is done
Of course :P
I resent myself sometimes for not having university education, by the same token I'm not academic and find academia stressful.
I feel you, I faced the same situation as you are, plus I'm an international student, tuition fees are higher. I just felt kinda numbed.
Just out of curiosity, is it because of my last comment that you made this video? :)
+John NTL haha this had been on my to-film list for a while.. but feel free to take credit ;)
I forgot to mention that I'm a student in University of Waterloo. So, I'm guessing we're kinda on the same path. haha
Hello fellow Canadian! I did not go to Waterloo, but I hear it's great :)
erm....I'm not Canadian haha. I'm an international student. Waterloo is good but stressful.
I think what happened to you in undergraduate school happened to me in graduate school. I wanted to do research but had to do two years worth of unrelated classes and tests and ended up hating physics by the time it came to do it for real. Although they pay you to do grad school in this field so I shouldn't complain I suppose...
+Kyle Kimminau yeah it's really unfortunate.
I understand that when they give you a degree, it's the university's "promise" to the world that you've learned certain core topics... but oh boy. The way it's done needs to change
That's why Germany is awesome: Universiy is free, no mandatory classes that are outside of what you really need for your degree and usually classes are quite good. It isn't easy to get good grades but if you put the effort in and work hard it's so worth it.
I should probably add that the part about the mandatory classes is because we learn most of what you'd learn in the first (few?) year(s) of college in high school..
Well, what Americans would learn. Don't know too much about the Canadian education system tbh.
+Eva Vo I'm glad you're having a positive experience! What are you studying?
I love your reply Eva! That is the exact same reason why I love our german education system. Sadly, in recent years our system changed more towards the US system..
Completely agree 100%
Great video honey!
+Katerina Gketi thank you!
I was watching this video telling myself "WOW she is just like me". I love learning but the way the education system is set up to have me take "general ed classes" after i just spend 12 years in public school taking "general eds" like history, and English. College should be straight forward 2 years on the specific major intended. Why am i paying an extra 60k for 2 years of general education. I live in the USA by the way
I think that most people can agree that the current education system is broken. The trouble is coming to a consensus on how to fix it.
I dont think it can be fixed.Too many people go to universities and getting a job now is a lot tougher, because you are competing with thousands of people with the same education as you.Employers want more than just a degree nowadays. I dont know how you can fix that without shutting the education system down completely
I think that a move towards more modular education might be helpful. Letting people learn what they want, at their own pace, as opposed to everyone taking classes for a 3-4 month semester.It would let people zip through the easy ones, if they're motivated.
Thats a great idea! There is a program in my city that allows students to basically make their own degree. You get to choose the classes you want to take, but it has to match certain criteria to get approved. I think one can create a very sophisticated, marketable, and enjoyable degree for themselves going that route.
I think education will trend in that direction.
There are websites like coursera and creativelive that are interesting
You need to post an update I am interested to know how you mastered these challenges and would highly recommend you find a productive outlet like music to offset the stress of your chosen profession learn to play piano preferably jazz and then get to the gymn and dance, pursue some comedy and improv lessons to take the challenges and turn them into humor for creative release. Seemingly at Date 2016 here You needed to balance the intensity of math and logic with some more creative applications to balance out. Forgive me for stepping out of the box here but to balance your sense of contributing get involved in supporting non profits where you are volunteer to help the homeless, feed the hungry in a soup kitchen or teach math to the under priviledged via a big sister program. I think those levels of finding value through service could help you fill some of the seeming holes. Also get up and move to NYC for a while seems like you are in a quiet place and would benefit from the hustle and bustle. All that noted appreciate you sharing your experiences here and wish you well.
Montreal?
the new camera seems great :)
+SitDownFeetUp thank youuuuuuuuuu! I love it! I feel 100x more professional 😉
A degree whether you enjoy it or not whether you're being challenged or not or whether you're enjoying learning or not, a degree shows dedication to an employer and such
Sure, but wouldn't it be great if we could show dedication to an employer AND be challenged/learn/enjoy ourselves?
Sorry, I didn't catched what you degree is? In what field?
I have a degree in actuarial mathematics
Okay. That sounds really complicated :)
completely agree with you
I know, right?
I studied civil engineering. Biggest mistake of my life.
I did civil engineering. Biggest mistake of my life.
Agree 100%
Why do you look like the "1st World Problems Girl" meme?
I'm only in university to get a job. Not necessarily to learn. If I could get a job now I wouldn't go to school.
I actually relate to this....♡
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In the UK literally anyone can get into uni
What do we do if we are stupid?
With regards to what?
Ellellevlog. , education I have my degree but I'm having trouble learning and taking test despite utilizing the many tools around. specifically GRE, P, FM.
Do you have access to tutors?
Yes the University didn't give me any experience at all it is all about listening to the doctor and memorise it , at least to me
"Here is some information. Now say it back to me"
hhhhh , it just after the exam disappear unfortunately it is a sad story but i did not find a solution , do you have some because what i really find it's intresting the statistical side but no large data or really thing to learn at least for me i know there is some thing wrong from my side but still figure that out , thanks
Prerequisites are there for a reason... I finished Electrical Engineering and there's plenty of people who dropped out over the years who wouldn't of survived two semesters if it wasn't for prerequisites. Then there's those who struggled but eventually completed their degree because of things like prerequisites. Stop complaining, the university/college system isn't changing anytime soon. They're the same institutions that release "updated" books each year and even university specific SKUs.
+UnknownUser the education system plays to the average student (or slightly above average)
While I definitely needed to learn the information in the prerequisite courses, I often didn't need a semester long course on them. If I'm able to not go to class all semester, study two days before the exam and get an A+, I don't need to be paying for a full semesters worth of "education"
can i become an actuary if I have pure mathematics degree?
+Yasa H yup :)
You know, I think your actual problem was that you were probably above the level of the average student who goes there. What I mean by this is that in reality you study at the level of the average of the students attending the classes and many come with huge gaps from their high school studies. The rhythm for studying is given by how competitive and smart you colleagues are as this influences how much the professors can teach. They can’t just fail 80% of students, for example, so they must lower the level of studying to ensure that most students are abls to understand etc. Also, testing happens in order to track progress and to see if you have the necessary level because honestly plenty of students don’t put any effort into it. If it wasn’t challenging enough, this means you would have benefitted more from a more competitive environment.
ugh so true
I wish it wasn't
what is your degree
Actuarial mathematics
This was so me to an extent. All the general education courses are so boring and mind numbingly easy, but you need to finish all of those before they let you take classes for your major. I always wondered what people who weren't really passionate about their fields would do because I don't feel like university teaches you enough by just going to class to be successful in your field once you get out
A lot of people drop out. Other people just do it for the degree.. I guess.
so what is your passion?
Good question
Ellellevlog is there a way to send private messages on Google plus? Cause I would really like to talk with you
You couldn't do your job without your degree, so how could you possibly regret it
+Stressy Mess I don't regret it, I resent it.
I resent the fact that I need a degree to do my job, even though my degree in no way helps me do my job
Mmmkay I guess that makes sense. But as someone working their ass off to get to uni it does scare me that I could eventually feel the way you do if I'm honest!
I thought the purpose of education was to crush your soul. That's how we find out who's best suited for the most soul-crushing careers. The trick is to make like you don't have one. Maybe you're just too attached to yours.
+UnhappyTestTubeBaby I'm a redhead. I never had a soul to begin with
tu viens de québec???
Montréal
and which university did you go to? mcgill or concordia?
2:01 RIP me I have an 8:30am Mon Tues Wed and Friday....
+Ryan Smith You're clearly doing it wrong, Ryan.
+Ellellevlog prof quality >>>>> time of day
Fair point.
So I am 20 and I dropped out of high-school at like 15 or 16 I think, I ended up growing a serious resentment for education in general due to teachers that didn't care and a system that didn't help people that got bored. My last year was 11th grade and I went to a "guidance" counselor that told me that I shouldn't drop out because I was "SO CLOSE" to finishing. In a system that would prefer you to be bored and stagnant for a year and a half just so you can get a piece of paper that says you have no experience in any field of work... I basically hauled ass and left. Started a business with my family that thankfully worked out and now here I am 20 years old with no education. 2 years ago my mom said she wanted to go back to college so away she went and enrolled in a community college nearby for nursing and its been utter hell since then. With the prerequisites, bad teachers due to it being a lower budget school, and poor course material I have to say that I don't get why anyone would want to go to college in general. You can go to a career technical school and get a degree and a lower income introduction job, then skip prereqs with the education you already have and take night classes for your real degree. Looking at the same time frame in both except in one you go to a university and make no money and the other you go to a community college with a decent job.
I think that university serves a purpose. I think that the underlying intentions are good. I just think that the way it's set up today is flawed.
I'm glad you were able to make a good life for yourself :)
I agree that it stands a purpose but I beleive that it doesn't really do its job. Don't get me wrong, it does give you life skills and a kick ass experience but it isn't the best environment for education and growth. I have never heard someone say "yea I loved college, we learned so much"... instead I hear "Omg dude in college I drank and had no responsibilities, we slept with all the hoes... you don't even understand the ass that I pulled bro. And it was the best time of my life". If this is ever said by anyone doing anything that's meant for education then the system is heavily flawed
@@DaltonCollinson ### but it isn't the best environment for education and growth###
How is it not the best environment for learning and education? All the cool new shit humans invent are made by professors and PhD holders, teaching masters and bachelor candidates their stuff.
### instead I hear "Omg dude in college I drank and had no responsibilities, we slept with all the hoes... you don't even understand the ass that I pulled bro. And it was the best time of my life". If this is ever said by anyone doing anything that's meant for education then the system is heavily flawed###
This has nothing to do with real education. In a real university, you can't just party all day long and manage to pass. Doesn't work that way. Most of the tougher degrees require a full-time job or more kind of dedication to pass and get good grades.
These college stories (which are mostly just overblown myths) are from people who didn't do a real degree and only did fun stuff.
There are tons of local shit tier colleges with useless degrees that you can attend and pass exams easily in without learning anything worthwhile. Doesn't change the fact that there are real degrees with a purpose and meaning which require your full effort. If you can't make this easy distinction, you are plain stupid.
$3225 a semester (15 credits, tuition only) at University of Central Florida.
Certainly a solid school, but not exactly Oxbridge or Ivy League.
But that's the price of a "degree"
To get an *education* , get yourself a library card, hit the open road, or just enjoy yourself with Khan academy - the story of its founding alone is fascinating.
This is dumb advice. How could any employer tell what your siklls are if you don't have a degree to back it up? Who knows what you did in your free time and what you learned? Universites and their degrees exist for a good reason: employers can easily tell what you did and didn't do based on your courses you took. Why would anyone take your word for what you did in your free time?
With a degree, you have proof. Simple as that.
All these complaints usualls come from people who are just flat out not cut to persist in the academic culture with all its learning and education. If you just want to work a decent job go to a vocational school or something.
What university did you go to?
Which university did you go to ?