Man Thinks Science is Nothing But a Religion

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  • @SciManDan
    @SciManDan  15 годин тому +18

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      @nienke7713 14 годин тому +9

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    • @tuRbo-_-crOw_GTA
      @tuRbo-_-crOw_GTA 14 годин тому +1

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    • @pr0ntab
      @pr0ntab 14 годин тому +7

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    • @UpperDarbyDetailing
      @UpperDarbyDetailing 13 годин тому +1

      Honestly… I don’t think it’s fair to make fun of Hans. He’s clearly deeply mentally unwell.

    • @nivokspilkommen801
      @nivokspilkommen801 11 годин тому +1

      You're not nearly a good enough actor to convince anybody that bullshit 'health' drink is anything other than disgusting.

  • @tussk.
    @tussk. 13 годин тому +308

    "Science is a religion, as as such, it can be dimissed"
    Said a religious person.

    • @CharlieMartini6
      @CharlieMartini6 11 годин тому +9

      It's mind boggling

    • @xcom9648
      @xcom9648 11 годин тому +5

      Was thinking the same thing

    • @ulodetero
      @ulodetero 11 годин тому +4

      I think that's why they're trying to reframe religion as a "way of life" or a "relationship" nowadays. 🙄

    • @jinxterx
      @jinxterx 11 годин тому

      Did they have a stutter?

    • @crypto1223
      @crypto1223 10 годин тому

      What’s more, they love to use Satanism as the worst example, but in their own lore, Satan is the first rebel in history, and he got cast out of Heaven for his troubles yes, but he also got kicked out of the place where all the religious idiots think they’re going.
      Also a lot of modern satanism is about freedom of choice and expression and putting yourself up on a pedestal and not God or Satan, because at the end of the day, you’re your only hope in the world.

  • @dainbramage9508
    @dainbramage9508 11 годин тому +204

    Science isn't a religion because it doesn't tell you who to hate, it just says "here's our best explanation for how the world works, we'll update you when we have more data."

    • @VulpisFoxfire
      @VulpisFoxfire 10 годин тому +11

      Devil's advocate (pun unintended), that's actually part of the purpose of religion and mythology as well, just without all the baggage of actual proof to go with it. All the hate comes along with the 'practical application' of it, and the 'us vs. them' mentality.

    • @wintermute740
      @wintermute740 9 годин тому +17

      @@VulpisFoxfire You'd have a point if it weren't for the dogma of many religions precluding the "we'll update you..." part.

    • @nealwright5630
      @nealwright5630 8 годин тому

      In 2020 and 2021, Science 100% told you who to hate!

    • @Pete_R63
      @Pete_R63 8 годин тому +3

      Thanks, I really like this explanation. Cheers mate

    • @bestbehave
      @bestbehave 8 годин тому +1

      @@VulpisFoxfire I've never heard a religious person say "here's our best explanation for how the world works, we'll update you when we have more data."
      They either say "dunno, I'll leave that bit to science". or "Burn the Witch!"

  • @petermoller8337
    @petermoller8337 14 годин тому +391

    Ricky Gervais said it well, “burn all the books religious and scientific, wait and the science books will come back exactly the same, the religious books will be different “

    • @petermoller8337
      @petermoller8337 14 годин тому +52

      He also said that “being stupid is like being dead, you don’t know, but the people around you do”😊

    • @SpyroTek
      @SpyroTek 14 годин тому +16

      To be fair the different religious books are pretty similar. Wrong, but similar.

    • @Ole_CornPop
      @Ole_CornPop 14 годин тому +33

      ​@@SpyroTekthey are all copied from even older religions. Religions are a casserole. 😂

    • @Shannon-Smith
      @Shannon-Smith 13 годин тому +2

      Although he does say that, he is incorrect because religeon is belief based and belief is nessecary to learn.

    • @FritzSchober
      @FritzSchober 13 годин тому +21

      @@SpyroTek Only religions in the same region. Compare the Quran, Torah and the Bible - all from the same region - with religions in China (Buddhism, Taoism) or India's Hinduism, or the Australian Aboriginal religion and mythology (Rainbow Snakes). Completely different lore.
      The only thing all religions have in common is some sort of super creature, more powerful than humans, that control things.

  • @bowks1o_o669
    @bowks1o_o669 12 годин тому +63

    Nothing irritates me more than people who have no clue about science, saying that actual science isn't science.

    • @earlmurrie3272
      @earlmurrie3272 7 годин тому +6

      Tell me about it, this guy irritated me so much. Talking about "they don't know why 9.8" yes "THEY" do you genius

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 Годину тому +1

      @@earlmurrie3272 He sounded like he has more of a problem with math than science. You have a formula. You plug in the numbers you know. From there you calculate the numbers you don't know. I'm not sure why it's a problem if the answer is 9.8?

    • @mirandahotspring4019
      @mirandahotspring4019 18 хвилин тому +1

      And usually also claiming supports their beliefs.

  • @duncanmcneill7088
    @duncanmcneill7088 14 годин тому +274

    Why is “g” equal to 9.81m/s^2. ?
    Because that’s what we MEASURE it to be.

    • @borano2031
      @borano2031 14 годин тому +9

      What a surprise if it turned up in the next bible!!! Rgr

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser 13 годин тому +60

      "you never question that value don't you?!" No I don't, because in school, my teacher did an experiment involving dropping stuff from tall places, and a stopwatch.
      It's literally grade-school knowledge that you can prove.

    • @robjchristopher
      @robjchristopher 13 годин тому

      @@SeanCrosseryup, I remember using ticker tape attached to something thrown off the school roof - we then measured the gap between the dots and came up with a value close to 9.8m/s^2

    • @graydanerasmussen4071
      @graydanerasmussen4071 13 годин тому +27

      @@SeanCrosser It was paper strips and electric timers for me: Drop a weight attached to a paper strip looped through a 50hz timer, measure the distance between the little dots, do the math... QED! 6th grade, if I remember correctly. :)

    • @danielreed5199
      @danielreed5199 13 годин тому +1

      @@graydanerasmussen4071 We just threw flat-earthers off the roof, the ones that floated were given 1 million dollars.

  • @mcarp555
    @mcarp555 11 годин тому +102

    "Anything I'm too stupid to understand can't be true". That's it in a nutshell.

    • @Broadsword999
      @Broadsword999 10 годин тому

      He's clearly pretty stupid, He sets the bar really low and he keep just limboing under that bar every day

    • @CrypidLore
      @CrypidLore 9 годин тому

      If you're too stupid to understand a scientific concept, would you not have to take it on faith that you're being told the truth?

    • @Pete_R63
      @Pete_R63 8 годин тому +5

      It is extraordinary how much Hans doesn't understand.

    • @jase_allen
      @jase_allen 4 години тому +4

      Well.... I'd say it's more "Anything that contradicts what I believe can't be true."

    • @KevReillyUK
      @KevReillyUK Годину тому +1

      It's pure _God Of The Gaps_ territory, and poor Hans' gaps are wider than most and in some cases apparently self-amplifying. I'm reasonably sure, for instance, that he was not taught in elementary school that _all_ light is from dead stars.
      If he was then he should be pitied and his teacher, if not retired already, should be encouraged to do so immediately. More likely he's misremembered and that, and similar errors, have coloured his thinking and output ever since. Well, that or the pseudo-celebrity and income he no doubt generates from his content creation. Having just looked at some of his output, I'm leaning toward the latter. Nobody can possibly, truly believe _all_ that guff. Can they?

  • @nio804
    @nio804 14 годин тому +138

    I love how gravity deniers just go to buoyancy as an explanation when buoyancy is literally caused by gravity. Without gravity, *there is no buoyancy*

    • @kristinagraversgaard5328
      @kristinagraversgaard5328 13 годин тому +26

      Don't forget density too. Which breaks down when you realize that there is no direction in density.

    • @tetrasphere8165
      @tetrasphere8165 12 годин тому +11

      It might be the craziest part of their perspective.

    • @GerardMenvussa
      @GerardMenvussa 11 годин тому +4

      He should know better, being very dense himself...

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 9 годин тому +1

      yeah its like they never heard of a vacuum chamber.

    • @OOTurok
      @OOTurok 8 годин тому +2

      Buoyancy Theory... the weight of an object equals the weight of the fluid it displaces, because the buoyant force of a fluid equals the gravitaional force an object exerts against the fluid.
      You know... how for every action there is an opposite & equal reaction, & what not? Ahhh.... the 3rd Law of Motion applies, even here. Amazing how universal they are.
      Feel free to cut & paste this for all flerfs you encounter.

  • @markdavis2475
    @markdavis2475 13 годин тому +136

    The older I get the more I detest religion in any shape or form.🥺

    • @WitchidWitchid
      @WitchidWitchid 10 годин тому

      The older I get the more I realize how many idiots there are in this world. Especially now that they can publish their stupidity over the Internet.

    • @aaronmicalowe
      @aaronmicalowe 8 годин тому

      If there is a God, religion is the veil that blocks our interaction with it. Religion is the more anti-God than atheism.

    • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 7 годин тому +3

      Same. I have no patience for it any longer. It both bewilders & appalls me that so many people around the world would believe such things.

    • @aaronmicalowe
      @aaronmicalowe 7 годин тому

      Oh! My comment got deleted. I wonder why. Oh well...

    • @StephenWalton-g2l
      @StephenWalton-g2l 6 годин тому

      Testify!

  • @scooterjackal
    @scooterjackal 12 годин тому +43

    So basically “I choose to be ignorant so science is wrong!”

  • @infin8ee
    @infin8ee 13 годин тому +32

    Even though we don't really exist in Australia, Santa watch has begun. Everyone have a safe and happy Christmas and enjoy the holidays 🎄

    • @mackerel1875
      @mackerel1875 8 годин тому +4

      He's just left my place a few minutes ago.
      Coal?

    • @cecilbrisley5185
      @cecilbrisley5185 8 годин тому +3

      Loved this as a kid.
      The CBC would come on saying NORAD had spotted something in the north moving at high speed and had scrambled planes to investigate. Then they confirmed it was Santa and gave tracking information.
      Added so much to the magic of it.

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 5 годин тому +1

      @@cecilbrisley5185 "Added so much to the magic of it."
      Until the missiles were launched.

    • @Rosivok
      @Rosivok 4 години тому +3

      Merry Christmas to all of you in the mychical land down under.

    • @djdeemz7651
      @djdeemz7651 2 години тому +3

      Does Santa change clothes when he delivers presents there ? It’s the middle of summer ffs

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 14 годин тому +231

    It's always funny to me when religious people try to demean science by calling it a religion, because they're effectively saying it is undesriable for something to be a religion (otherwise it wouldn't be demeaning to science to be called a religion)

    • @ceejay0137
      @ceejay0137 14 годин тому +1

      Ah, but _their_ religion is the 'one true religion' so it's right and everyone else is wrong!

    • @BarnabyRudge-sx3pb
      @BarnabyRudge-sx3pb 13 годин тому +31

      Yup! I've long wondered why some deeply religious people use the word "religion" as an insult when talking about science.

    • @Kaylx3
      @Kaylx3 13 годин тому

      ​@@BarnabyRudge-sx3pb Because they don"t like all religions. They like their religion

    • @ThisPyro
      @ThisPyro 13 годин тому +29

      I think it comes from the their view on other religions (as in the sin of believing in the wrong religion). They need to get science on the same playing field of other religions to denounce it as a sinful belief.

    • @fakecrusader
      @fakecrusader 13 годин тому +11

      @@ThisPyro You hit that big old nail on the head. Spot on!

  • @jackbozarth
    @jackbozarth 9 годин тому +21

    I'm American we were not taught that all the stars were long dead we were told that some of the stars in the sky we see could have already died but we haven't received the light from him yet

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 7 годин тому

      And the stars that we can see with the naked eye are very close, most within a few dozen light years and the farthest, V762 Cas, being 75,000 light years away. The furthest stars (plural) that can normally be seen are those of the Andromeda galaxy, 2.5 million light years away, though at that distance the human eye can't differentiate individual stars. Stellar lifetimes range from several million to several trillion years (our sun will live for about 10 billion years in total). Long story short, for all intents and purposes all stars that can be seen with the naked eye still exist.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 7 годин тому

      And the stars that we can see without a telescope are very close, most within a few dozen light years and the farthest, V762 Cas, being 75,000 light years away. The furthest stars (plural) that can normally be seen are those of the Andromeda galaxy, 2.5 million light years away, though at that distance the human eye can't differentiate individual stars. Stellar lifetimes range from several million to several trillion years (our sun will live for about 10 billion years in total). Long story short, for all intents and purposes all stars that can be seen with our eyes still exist.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 7 годин тому

      And the stars that we can see without a telescope are very close, most within a few dozen light years and the farthest, V762 Cas, being 75,000 light years away. The furthest stars (plural) that can normally be seen are those of the Andromeda galaxy, 2.5 million light years away, though at that distance the human eye can't differentiate individual stars.
      Stellar lifetimes range from several million to several trillion years (our sun will live for about 10 billion years in total). Long story short, for all intents and purposes all stars that can be seen with our eyes still exist.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 7 годин тому +1

      And the stars that we can see without a telescope are very close, most within a few dozen light years and the farthest, V762 Cas, being 75,000 light years away. The furthest stars (plural) that can normally be seen are those of the Andromeda galaxy, 2.5 million light years away, though at that distance the human eye can't differentiate individual stars.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 7 годин тому +1

      Stellar lifetimes range from several million to several trillion years (our sun will live for about 10 billion years in total). Long story short, for all intents and purposes all stars that can be seen with our eyes still exist.

  • @68chewy
    @68chewy 14 годин тому +103

    "Just because they have one FAIRY TALE answer thrown in..." , while invoking god as his reason is the apex of projection.

    • @84com83
      @84com83 14 годин тому +9

      And he then talks about his FAIRY TALE story about god "creating"

    • @airiannawilliams3181
      @airiannawilliams3181 13 годин тому +8

      @@84com83 Cue the magic man!

    • @gregmason2434
      @gregmason2434 13 годин тому +4

      I am sure I will get roasted. I am a Theist. I do still subscribe to the notion that a God 10 dimensions above our level of understanding COULD have created everything. I am an agnostic theist to be honest, but I will not take away intelligence until it is totally disproved.... which is also science.

    • @PeterKnagge
      @PeterKnagge 13 годин тому

      Religious fundamentalist anti-science internet trolls never make sense.
      🇺🇲 is a death cult.

    • @PeterKnagge
      @PeterKnagge 13 годин тому

      ​@@gregmason2434 the Higgs Boson says different

  • @Arexion5293
    @Arexion5293 11 годин тому +23

    "I used to follow science like a religion."
    Well that's weird because science doesn't follow science like a religion. It full on questions and doubts itself at all times and tries to disprove itself as that way it can become more certain of what it says, or it realises it was wrong and now seeks to correct itself.

    • @craftsmanwoodturner
      @craftsmanwoodturner 7 годин тому +3

      ...and that is exactly why it is not a religion. Religions are based on dogma, and brook no challenges.

    • @secretweapon7764
      @secretweapon7764 2 години тому +2

      In fact, we hope to discover new information that shows we are wrong. Something new and exciting to learn. We all know how happy religious people get when they learn something in their holy book doesn't match observation.

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 Годину тому

      Religion is practiced by people. And people can make a religion out of anything, including science. That does not make science a religion.

  • @jennoscura2381
    @jennoscura2381 12 годин тому +45

    The ironic thing is that this science denier regularly uses the products of science without a second thought.

    • @leif12345
      @leif12345 12 годин тому +11

      And flat earthers routinely use GPS tech on their phones to navigate to Walmart while denying the existence of satellites.

    • @h14hc124
      @h14hc124 11 годин тому +5

      I suppose he thinks that God made both the internet and youtube. Just.. magic'd them into existence one day.

    • @jezza73
      @jezza73 10 годин тому +3

      @@leif12345 A flat Earther told me it's cables running under the ground. He also was always spouting on about "sciencism" (unsure how to spell that) yet had treatment, and cure for a rather nasty skin complaint (either malignant or pre-malignant) prescribed by doctors (who are in effect scientists)
      Sorry about my overuse of brackets!

    • @leif12345
      @leif12345 9 годин тому +4

      @ I’ve heard them claim it’s from telephone lines. When I asked how it works out on the ocean they go silent or even block me.

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 9 годин тому +4

      @@leif12345 balloons! its always damned balloons. Just remind them the gps data format is public and consists of _orbital_ elements which rules out balloons, drones, masts etc.

  • @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
    @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout 10 годин тому +21

    Well, he said he'd end the video with blatant lies, then blatantly lied. He delivered what he promised.

  • @Ezkanohra
    @Ezkanohra 14 годин тому +98

    Okay so he was saying "I still believe in being able to have theories and test them," right? ..but then completely threw that away

    • @BigDuke6ixx
      @BigDuke6ixx 14 годин тому

      He's an idiot, caught up in the modern cynicism movement.

    • @SanderEvers
      @SanderEvers 14 годин тому +11

      No, to him "testing a thoery" is reading a 2000 year old book.

    • @gregmason2434
      @gregmason2434 13 годин тому

      @@SanderEvers Misread or responded to the wrong post. Cheers.

    • @synthetic240
      @synthetic240 11 годин тому +4

      Exactly. He clearly believes in stating stuff about god and then calling it a day.

    • @ploppyploppy
      @ploppyploppy 11 годин тому +4

      Also he doesn't know what a theory is.

  • @drdonothing7991
    @drdonothing7991 13 годин тому +20

    It always intrigues me when certain people (the religious) call atheists and science a religion. The religious are using the word "religion" as a pejorative without any hint of irony.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 11 годин тому +1

      atheism is a religion - it is a set of beliefs that a person uses as the basis for their personal philosophy on life. science is a method. it is a framework a person uses to confirm basic facts about the world around them

    • @A15degreeperhourdrift
      @A15degreeperhourdrift 11 годин тому +1

      ​@@kenbrown2808"A lack of belief is a set of beliefs".

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ 10 годин тому +1

      ​​​​@@kenbrown2808You fail reading at a third grade level. "Not a thing" is very much NOT identical to "a thing".
      Atheism is the lack of belief in any god. That's it. It contains zero beliefs. Lack of belief ≠ a set of beliefs.

    • @daveg-Vancouver_Island
      @daveg-Vancouver_Island 10 годин тому

      @@kenbrown2808is it tho? It’s not a belief at all, atheists don’t believe in any deities whatsoever because there’s zero proof for any of them. It’s not our belief there’s no god, it’s a fact that there’s zero proof for any of them. You should google what atheism means.

    • @Essex121514
      @Essex121514 9 годин тому +6

      Atheism is a religion? What system of faith do they prescribe? To whom do they pray? Whom do they worship? What rituals do they perform, and on which days? What are their Holy days? Etc...

  • @tomorobo
    @tomorobo 14 годин тому +52

    Arguing viruses look different now is like complaining why silent movies ever existed

    • @earlywormgetsthebird
      @earlywormgetsthebird 13 годин тому +9

      Silence might be too abstract a concept if you have voices in your head.

    • @graydanerasmussen4071
      @graydanerasmussen4071 13 годин тому +10

      "Why doesn't a cow look like a boa constrictor? They are both animals!"

    • @catfishcave379
      @catfishcave379 3 години тому

      I’ve never HEARD a silent movie; therefore, they never existed.

  • @youaremopped
    @youaremopped 9 годин тому +23

    Science threatens his cherished beliefs, and he can't deal with the prospect of being wrong.

    • @markjoke3069
      @markjoke3069 6 годин тому

      You do realize the government controls science

  • @SanderEvers
    @SanderEvers 14 годин тому +49

    If the apple falls because of bouancy, why doesn't it fall upwards or sideways? Why does the Apple always fall towards the (center of the) Earth? Even if you go by density, the air gets less dense the higher it is. So.. the Apple should then ALWAYS fall up. But it never does.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 14 годин тому +15

      Yeah or like when the say "It goes to to the ground because it's the closest dense object"...
      if you are standing inside & hold your arm up then drop an object it should go to the ceiling because it is closer than the floor

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 14 годин тому +18

      The fact is that without gravity, there is no buoyancy.

    • @sharimeline3077
      @sharimeline3077 13 годин тому +6

      They ignore the fact that the atmosphere gets less dense as it gets farther away from the earth.

    • @DJNiems
      @DJNiems 13 годин тому +7

      I just love that the equation for buoyancy has little g in it too. Incredibly ironic that flerfs are quite happy to accept this!

    • @jennoscura2381
      @jennoscura2381 12 годин тому +7

      As he said in the video "Because G*d". That's the answer for people who don't actually want to know how things work.

  • @positivevibetec
    @positivevibetec 13 годин тому +31

    He definitely wasn't taught that in elementary school he wasn't paying attention when they said SOME of the stars are burned out already and it takes that long for the light to get here

    • @martinhuhn7813
      @martinhuhn7813 11 годин тому

      How would you know? In a physics lecture in university, they said, that scuba divers don´t use pure oxigen, because they are afraid to burn. Diving wasn´t their field and they just said nonsense, which they either made up themselfes to make sense of it or they repeated something they heard somewhere. I could add more examples. So, why would you assume, that such mistakes don´t happen in elementary school?

    • @JW-mb6tq
      @JW-mb6tq 11 годин тому +3

      @@martinhuhn7813Well if you “believed” that you failed. You should not have accepted a call to authority as your evidence for the scuba example. Upon hearing something that does not make sense ask for the proofs. This is science.

    • @ivx8345
      @ivx8345 10 годин тому +4

      I think we can safely assume that nothing from elementary school stuck with Hans.

    • @Bronzescorpion
      @Bronzescorpion 10 годин тому

      @@martinhuhn7813 Your example is pretty bad considering the teacher should teach in their respective fields. Even if they didn't you shouldn't take it at face value if you are taught something outside their expertise. Even kids knows to be skeptical of what a teacher says if they don't teach the subject. I know, I am a teacher myself and my pupils are hesitant to ask me geography questions even if I teach them biology, physics and chemistry. It is only when I tell them that I also teach geography that they value my insights on the field.
      That being said. Your professors were stupid. Even if it wasn't their field, that conclusion is not something one should arrive at.

    • @skindred1888
      @skindred1888 9 годин тому

      ​@@martinhuhn7813breathing pure oxygen can essentially burn your lungs...they don't use pure oxygen

  • @AnonAnon1
    @AnonAnon1 13 годин тому +21

    Scientology is a religion. I think that’s what Hans meant.

    • @VulpisFoxfire
      @VulpisFoxfire 10 годин тому +3

      Science and Scientology are two very different and mostly unrelated things.

    • @aaronmicalowe
      @aaronmicalowe 8 годин тому

      @@VulpisFoxfire Yes, Scientology stole the word science to try and lend themselves credibility, as they manipulated their cult victims, stole all their savings and made them slaves.

    • @trevormillar1576
      @trevormillar1576 5 годин тому +1

      Scientology exists so we can laugh at it.
      Flerfers exist so Scientologists and Jehovahs Witnesses can laugh at someone else for a change.

    • @duskonanyavarld1786
      @duskonanyavarld1786 2 години тому

      I m not sure if scientology is a religion, I view it more of pseudo psychology. However I am not a expert.

  • @JustSomeDudee
    @JustSomeDudee 13 годин тому +14

    Ah yes, buoyancy. The property of an object that famously includes gravity is its formula.

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 57 хвилин тому

      Don't you need a liquid medium for buoyancy to mean anything?

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 53 хвилини тому

      @@gregorymoore2877 i think you can do with fluids... gases can be the medium just fine, can't they?

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 46 хвилин тому

      @@irrelevant_noob I think you're correct. I've watched videos on airships, such as R-101, and believe "loss of buoyancy" is the term used when the gas bag tears and starts leaking hydrogen. As long as the object weighs less than the mount of fluid/gas it displaces it is considered buoyant?

  • @ducnguyen-qv7sw
    @ducnguyen-qv7sw 14 годин тому +45

    Science is not a belief, either you understand or don't understand science.

    • @zebo-the-fat
      @zebo-the-fat 13 годин тому +4

      science is a way of thinking, comparing observed effects with existing theories and if needed changing the theory to account for the observed effects

    • @FilipCordas
      @FilipCordas 12 годин тому

      @@zebo-the-fat Science is a belief, and anyone who says it's not 'don't understand science'

    • @ducnguyen-qv7sw
      @ducnguyen-qv7sw 11 годин тому

      @zebo-the-fat , even if you don't understand science it doesn't make it not true.

    • @NoTimeForThatNow
      @NoTimeForThatNow 10 годин тому +2

      Sounds like fight club.

    • @spinksey007
      @spinksey007 9 годин тому +3

      Absolutely. Science is a process, not a belief system.

  • @belowaveragechap5894
    @belowaveragechap5894 12 годин тому +8

    There's his problem right there. You don't experiment to prove yourself right, you do it to test your hypothesis, if the results agree you have a theory.

  • @patu8010
    @patu8010 13 годин тому +11

    What they probably told him in school was that some stars are long dead.

    • @do_research
      @do_research 12 годин тому

      If you are being serious they would be right. A star that is visible could have indeed died long ago due to the speed of information being limited. Betelgeuse for example could have already gone supernova and we don't see it yet because the light has yet to reach us.

    • @patu8010
      @patu8010 12 годин тому +4

      @@do_research Yes, but the guy remembered them saying all stars were dead.

    • @Essex121514
      @Essex121514 9 годин тому +3

      ​@@do_research to add to the above. He likely wasn't paying attention in class. By the evidence of the video he posted, he was likely praying during the lecture, instead of paying attention.

    • @perry92964
      @perry92964 6 годин тому

      some people hear things very differently, i was taught about how "some" stars could be long dead, hans's problem is he hears almost everything differently, i would bet he gets stories from the bible wrong.

  • @betaorionis2164
    @betaorionis2164 12 годин тому +11

    "I don't believe" is a form of saying "I don't understand, but I'm too narcissist to admit other people understand more things than I do".

  • @wettuga2762
    @wettuga2762 10 годин тому +7

    You can literally find the explanation of why G = 9.8m/s by typing it on google. Religion is like a blindfold to these people: if it isn't in their bible, it isn't true, and they won't believe it no matter how many times we explain it to them or PROVE it to them.

    • @Pete_R63
      @Pete_R63 8 годин тому +1

      'if it isn't in their bible, it isn't true' oh boy, this brought back a memory of an old girlfriend who was a religious nutter. I was watching some TV show about UFOs, Bigfoot and other strange phenomena. She happened to be passing through the room just as they said that Bigfoot could be a link to man a million years ago (or something like that) and she stopped and said, that that couldn't be true, the earth wasn't here a million years ago since the Bible says it is only 6000 years old. Later, she walked through as they were talking about aliens and she said that they couldn't be real because 'she would have read about them in the Bible.' I'm so glad I got out of that relationship.

  • @bramusa
    @bramusa 10 годин тому +6

    This idiotic idea there has to be a ‘why’ stems from the arrogance of us humans. Things just ‘are’.

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 5 годин тому

      And thanks to the vagaries of language, in English some 'why' questions are really 'how' questions. Think of the classic small child's question.
      "Why is the sky blue, Daddy?"
      "Because of Rayleigh scattering, which I'll explain properly to you when you're older. For now, though, you can just think of the sky being blue because of sunlight."

  • @vophatechnicus
    @vophatechnicus 14 годин тому +10

    "Look a wrong-way driver" ... "one? thousands!!!"

  • @ajnphotography_uk
    @ajnphotography_uk 12 годин тому +12

    Just another case of ‘I don’t believe it therefore it must be wrong’ syndrome.

    • @CrypidLore
      @CrypidLore 9 годин тому

      If you adhere to a religion you take it on faith that you're on the correct path.
      So for the lay-person who can't / doesn't understand a scientific concept would they not have to have faith that scientistic weren't leading them astray?

    • @ajnphotography_uk
      @ajnphotography_uk 8 годин тому

      @ then the default position should be ‘I don’t know’ which is the most honest answer you can give.

  • @kingatheist7231
    @kingatheist7231 14 годин тому +20

    Merry Christmas Dan. All the best!

  • @Rondigity92
    @Rondigity92 11 годин тому +13

    Flerfers assuming* up and down are universal directions 😂😂😂
    *edit, Thanks for the suggestion

    • @mrxmry3264
      @mrxmry3264 10 годин тому +4

      Correction: theyre not thinking. If they were, i dont think theyd be flerfs for long.

    • @shirothefish9688
      @shirothefish9688 4 години тому

      "because god made the world in a way that makes sense"
      It makes sense because he was born in it and learnt how the world works living in the environment...

  • @mrpositronia
    @mrpositronia 14 годин тому +14

    He's "fine with" saying god did it. Meaning, he doesn't know how god did it because there is no factual evidence on how. Yet, he's not fine with the factually based scientific reasoning. He says science is a "lie", and not the bible, which still as yet is not proven to be factually correct at all.

  • @db5627
    @db5627 8 годин тому +2

    I'm a Christian and I absolutely love science, this channel and many like it. Science has never been an issue in regards to my faith.

  • @markdiamond7068
    @markdiamond7068 10 годин тому +4

    Perefect logic: "The universe cannot have always existed it must have had a creator"
    "And where did this Creator come from?"
    "Oh, he has always existed!"

  • @abrahama2643
    @abrahama2643 13 годин тому +23

    Religeon is belief; Science is skeptisism.
    Religeon says, "Trust the word of God".
    Science says, "I won't believe it until its proven under scientific methods. . . then I still won't believe it until the majority of my peers agree with it. . . even then it will still be considered just a theory so that future generations have a chance to disprove it with future scentific methods.

    • @barneymcwhat6241
      @barneymcwhat6241 12 годин тому +8

      "science adjusts its views based on what's observed; faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."
      -Tim Minchin

    • @FilipCordas
      @FilipCordas 12 годин тому +3

      you can't 'prove' anything using the scientific method profs are a mathematical thing you can only disprove something to a certain level of accuracy.

    • @RantingRamsay
      @RantingRamsay 12 годин тому

      ...you do realize that a scientific theory and the colloquial usage of the word theory are not synonymous, right?
      To say a scientific theory is "just a theory" is rather dim, as a scientific theory is pretty much a proven fact, whereas when a person uses the word theory in common parlance what they mean is "hypothesis", or "guess".
      A scientific theory started out as a hypothesis then was tested again and again in a number of ways by many scientists in laboratory conditions who all came to the same conclusion through experimentation.
      A scientific theory is basically fact.
      A colloquial theory is basically a guess.

    • @jinxterx
      @jinxterx 11 годин тому +1

      Skepticism.

    • @PeerAdder
      @PeerAdder 4 години тому

      @@FilipCordas Replace "proven" in the above with either or both of "confirmed" or "demonstrated". And science absolutely can and does falsify things. For example, the discovery in 1697 of black swans on the Swan River in Australia falsified forever the then prevailing hypothesis that all swans were white.
      Similarly, the discovery of Neptune confirmed Newton's theory of gravity but its failure to explain the observed precession of the perihelion of Mercury falsified it near a sufficiently large mass (in this case, the Sun). Whereas Einstein's theory of General Relativity is confirmed by the the fact that it does explain the same observations, as well as by the observation of the bending of light around the sun (first seen during the total eclipse of 1919) and the phenomenon of gravitational redshift. If you use a sat nav you are also confirming GR (or at least Special Relativity) because GPS corrects for time dilation (the effect that moving clocks - in this case, on the satellites - run slow) by an accumulating 7 miles per day.

  • @davidgommeren7283
    @davidgommeren7283 14 годин тому +11

    I always wonder how they cross a busy road? A short prayer, close their eyes and walk (belief) or look both directions and cross if there is no traffic (science)?

    • @Pete_R63
      @Pete_R63 8 годин тому +1

      That was wonderful! I'll have to remember it!

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 5 годин тому +1

      @@Pete_R63 You can cast most reasoning problems in terms of practical issues such as crossing the road or putting food in your mouth. It can be an effective way of getting people to think about errors in logic, or in procedure or assumption, especially if you follow a failure up with a question on how that would translate into them teaching a child.

  • @adam_p99
    @adam_p99 12 годин тому +18

    Science adjusts its views based on what's observed
    Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.
    Tim Minchin

    • @VulpisFoxfire
      @VulpisFoxfire 10 годин тому +2

      Yup. Religion denies being proven wrong. The core of science is *challenging* people to prove you wrong, so you can figure out where the error is, and fix it.

    • @slm3945
      @slm3945 8 годин тому +3

      Science is an ongoing self-correcting process leading us to better understand the world/universe around us.

    • @Pete_R63
      @Pete_R63 8 годин тому

      I love Tim Minchin- genius on so many levels.

    • @jdevlin1910
      @jdevlin1910 Годину тому

      @@slm3945 Exactly, I hate the way this is presented as a flaw.

  • @stewlax
    @stewlax 13 годин тому +7

    Just because something is hard to understand doesn’t mean it is a belief. It is no more complicated than that.

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 13 годин тому +6

    Thanks. Merry Christmas to you, too, Dan! 🙂🐕🐕

  • @jooei2810
    @jooei2810 13 годин тому +6

    On that bombshell, I always imagine Clarkson saying it!

  • @gdutfulkbhh7537
    @gdutfulkbhh7537 11 годин тому +11

    I used to be a Christian, but I encountered too many fundamentalists like Wormhat on the Internet. I had to bail: no way was i going to allow liars and lunatics to define my reality.

    • @janendrik6607
      @janendrik6607 10 годин тому

      The vast, VAST majority of Christianity (including the Vatican) is perfectly fine with science, including the earth being what it is, a globe.
      It's fringe parts of mainly American fundemantlist spewing this creationist nonsense

  • @shadowman7307
    @shadowman7307 14 годин тому +7

    When you put it in the very simple way, science deniers shouldn't think 1+1=2.

  • @betaorionis2164
    @betaorionis2164 12 годин тому +2

    Poor guy is bitter that he flunked physics at high school and he tries to vent his frustration on the rest of the world.

  • @UCXEO5L8xnaMJhtUsuNXhlmQ
    @UCXEO5L8xnaMJhtUsuNXhlmQ 14 годин тому +27

    Merry Christmas everybody

  • @BouillaBased
    @BouillaBased 12 годин тому +6

    "...the fairy tale of gravity..."
    Someone find a window.

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 14 годин тому +15

    I really thought this sponsor was a joke, the name alone is already a weird choice, but then this organic anti-GMO bs is making it even more out of place on a science channel, that's like the flat earth of food

    • @hungry_khid1007
      @hungry_khid1007 13 годин тому +3

      Got to pay the bills somehow, i just ignore them

    • @jennoscura2381
      @jennoscura2381 12 годин тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing. I bet there isn't a ton of evidence to back up the claims regarding those mushrooms. These kinds of products are just overpriced BS. If a caffeine crash is a problem for you, you could just drink less caffeine. Tea has less caffeine. It certainly wouldn't be out of place for a Brit to drink tea.
      I have Finnish ancestry. So I have no intention of giving up my coffee. I just switch to a dark roast later in the day since it has less caffeine.

    • @kMegalonyx
      @kMegalonyx 11 годин тому

      @@jennoscura2381lol speaking of pseudoscience, its _not_ your _“Finnish ancestry”_ !! wtf u just like coffee, *most people do* , literally Wormhat.

    • @BoomBoomBrucey
      @BoomBoomBrucey 11 годин тому +2

      It is pretty disappointing to see a science channel push absolute wankery.
      But then I try and remember what BoyBoy said. Which was something along the lines of, no matter what we tell you to buy, just ignore it because it's all crap and we have to have sponsors.
      That was heavily paraphrased.

  • @amtiv
    @amtiv 2 години тому +1

    Another person disingenuously asking "why" (declaring they do not understand something) and then asserting their particular feelings are facts.

  • @deveey
    @deveey 14 годин тому +14

    Merry Christmas

  • @jimmd68
    @jimmd68 5 годин тому +1

    As a scientist, I can tell you that science endeavors to answer the "how", not the "why". It's the difference between fact and truth.

    • @jimmd68
      @jimmd68 5 годин тому +1

      "I'm all lost in the super-market..."

  • @RJS2003
    @RJS2003 14 годин тому +10

    Brushing off all of science as "just a religion" is legit so degrading and disrespectful to actual religions that it boarders on parody. What a complete joke.
    I'm saying this as an atheist btw.

    • @Evan-k
      @Evan-k 11 годин тому +1

      Can't respect religions, cults are cutls

  • @lornenoland8098
    @lornenoland8098 3 години тому +1

    If all records and memory of religion and science were erased, given enough time, all science would be recreated just as it is, but none of the religions would, it would be all new religions

  • @fransverschoor8135
    @fransverschoor8135 14 годин тому +5

    The irony of it all is that Hans directly defies the Creator he loves. Psalms 147.4 "He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names."

  • @klausM54
    @klausM54 11 годин тому +3

    "They don't know why."
    So why did god sacrifice himself to himself to serve as a loophole for a rule he himself created?
    "God works in mysterious ways."
    🤷‍♂️

  • @David34981
    @David34981 14 годин тому +22

    Hans Wormhat might have worm in his head...

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 14 годин тому

      That would mean he would actually have a brain in his head, tiny as it may be.

    • @ucVu-di6cx
      @ucVu-di6cx 13 годин тому +1

      Worms might have had replaced his brain completely.

    • @Er_Guille
      @Er_Guille 13 годин тому +4

      He might find employment with the department of health and human services in the next administration.

    • @EngelbertKarcovnik
      @EngelbertKarcovnik 12 годин тому

      Not just one!

    • @lightfoot9485
      @lightfoot9485 11 годин тому

      @@Er_Guille Ah there it is! DTS syndrome!

  • @grahampaulkendrick7845
    @grahampaulkendrick7845 13 годин тому +4

    Merry Christmas to you and your family, Dan. 🙂

    • @rexpayne7836
      @rexpayne7836 13 годин тому

      Merry Christmas from Australia. 🇦🇺 🦘 👍

  • @midasjones4384
    @midasjones4384 14 годин тому +12

    He doesn't understand but he's a big brain boy so it must be fake, he then replaces fact with cause magic.

  • @Rocinantewow
    @Rocinantewow 11 годин тому +1

    The reason these scammers say "science is a religion" instead of "religion is science" because they know that calling anything "religion" is a insult.

  • @nagranoth_
    @nagranoth_ 14 годин тому +10

    The only people who think that way are projecting their own crap...

  • @jolupe5200
    @jolupe5200 11 годин тому +3

    _Why 9.81?_
    Why does a religious man ask this instead of saying that God made "G" 9.81?

  • @Firemalleoandjelly
    @Firemalleoandjelly 14 годин тому +7

    4:26 Science is about how something happens, science does not assume that there was a why. Why is an assumption, you are assuming there had to be a reason why?

    • @jdevlin1910
      @jdevlin1910 Годину тому

      A lot of people cannot cope if they think there is no reason for things. Think how popular fate and the 'everything happens for a reason' discourse is.

  • @LastGoatKnight
    @LastGoatKnight 11 годин тому +1

    I like that everytime they want to disprove gravity they say density and buoyancy.
    >Look up how to calculate buoyancy
    >There's G

  • @rocketscience4516
    @rocketscience4516 14 годин тому +23

    My religion gave me smartphones and antibiotics. How about yours, Hans?

    • @borano2031
      @borano2031 14 годин тому +2

      Hans found a reason to accept pain and suffering. " God is testing us "..... Good luck!! Rgr

    • @Canaris3
      @Canaris3 14 годин тому +1

      99% of scientists throught history were fairly religious people so..

    • @borano2031
      @borano2031 14 годин тому +6

      @@Canaris3 And still their religion didn´t stop them from making groundbraking science... Did they however bring god into their discoveries??? Rgr

    • @susanstanleyhammond5699
      @susanstanleyhammond5699 13 годин тому +2

      @@Canaris3 100% of ALL people were in those times of ignorance and oppression - to profess otherwise was perilous.

    • @Canaris3
      @Canaris3 13 годин тому

      @@borano2031 lots of them did, do you know anything about history?

  • @blackened872
    @blackened872 41 хвилина тому

    So happy the first words to this video was, “merry Christmas everyone.” So refreshing to hear. Merry Christmas to you too Dan and everyone else.

  • @YetiUprising
    @YetiUprising 11 годин тому +3

    6:19 Why aren't dogs and hamsters identical looking? This is what I was taught mammals looked like.
    - Hans Wormbrain

  • @sharimeline3077
    @sharimeline3077 13 годин тому +5

    Didn't any flat earthers take science courses and do their own experiments? Did any of them go to college and take some science courses there? I had to. And we had to actually DO the stuff.

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket 13 годин тому

      FEs are either grifters or total idiots
      College??? Please, they barely finished high school
      You seem a similar thing in politics in the US

    • @Toooldforthis78
      @Toooldforthis78 12 годин тому

      Same lack of education they show every time, they honestly believe science is just make stuff up, write it in a book then students just learn it. Like we were all just given the “Bumper Book of Science”. They just don’t get I know the laws of physics to be true because at university I did experiments and saw the results and proved them to be true myself. Higher learning isn’t just a memory test of scientific facts, you understand at a base level by experimenting and proving for yourself. They just don’t get that and it shows they are of very limited education.

  • @MultiSteveB
    @MultiSteveB 14 годин тому +21

    3:47 "And here is where they get kinda arrogant about it, too. I have no problem admitting..."
    Are we about to witness a creationist admit they don't know everything?
    "... that god made this place the way that it works."
    Irony, thy name is Hans Wormhat. XD

  • @OleHansen-z3f
    @OleHansen-z3f 12 годин тому +1

    So if a flat earther will not let other people tell them what to think... will they not let other flat earthers tell them what to think, either?

  • @FIFODavid
    @FIFODavid 7 годин тому +4

    1:52 for the start of the topic

  • @loggrad9842
    @loggrad9842 7 годин тому +1

    That video is 4 years old. Why give that guy a platform or any kind of validation?

  • @Anyone_Else_Think
    @Anyone_Else_Think 14 годин тому +4

    When he said he’s going to finish with lies I thought he had a realisation! 😂

  • @RodCornholio
    @RodCornholio 10 годин тому +1

    “Why” (whatever) can not always be answered. That can be distressing for some. Where the answer to “why” ends is where “it just IS” (all we know now) begins.

  • @desertdwellers7294
    @desertdwellers7294 12 годин тому +3

    Some people just revel in thier stupidity.

    • @WitchidWitchid
      @WitchidWitchid 10 годин тому

      If everyone was like these science denier conspiracy theorists we'd still be living in caves and running through the forest naked and foraging for food

  • @diracio
    @diracio 12 годин тому +1

    Hilarious. Religious folk think their God gives a 'why' when it doesn't while they also disbelieve the 'how' of science... leaving them nothing!

  • @kevinroche3334
    @kevinroche3334 11 годин тому +3

    5:55 "I'm going to end this video with blatant lies..." Should have stopped right there!

  • @Mr_Timi1
    @Mr_Timi1 11 годин тому +1

    Dude wasn't paying enough attention in elementary school to remember what they said about stars but blames modern sconce because he can't remember... I think most people do not understand evidence.

  • @menecross
    @menecross 13 годин тому +5

    You lost him at "study" . 3:01

  • @clemstevenson
    @clemstevenson 49 хвилин тому +1

    There is no end to the limitations of Hans Wormhat.

  • @rexpayne7836
    @rexpayne7836 13 годин тому +3

    God would comment, but he's too busy saving starving children in Africa. Great video. 🇦🇺🦘😀

  • @ApolloKid1961
    @ApolloKid1961 13 годин тому +1

    Without science, I wouldn't drink a drop of water from a bottle bought at the supermarket.

  • @TCHorwood-xq7mw
    @TCHorwood-xq7mw 14 годин тому +10

    Happy Newton's Birthday!

  • @johncoad66
    @johncoad66 13 годин тому +1

    TWAS the night before Christmas, and all round the ERF, not a creature was stirring, not even a FLERF…

  • @DaremoTen
    @DaremoTen 13 годин тому +3

    I'm all lost in the supermarket
    I can no longer shop happily
    I came in here for that special offer
    A guaranteed personality

  • @skidsolo8140
    @skidsolo8140 9 годин тому +1

    So the apple would fall slower on the moon because he believes the air is more dense?

    • @robinvince616
      @robinvince616 2 години тому +1

      No. The Moon is in the sky. That's "up". The apple has to fall "down", so it would hurtle towards the Earth, that being the only "down" in existence. Oh, wait! . . . The Moon should fall down too. Ah, that's it - clearly the Moon does not exist!

  • @alexb5548
    @alexb5548 12 годин тому +3

    Satanism and Hans are quite different and he wouldn't make it past the title page.
    Hans: I heard it somewhere, maybe, in a book, or something, and I don't believe it and it just doesn't feel right so it's all lies
    Satanists: whether or not you BELIEVE or FEEL something is completely irrelevant.
    1) Don't be naive and manipulated - trust empirical evidence
    2) Don't be a dick

    • @lduker9731
      @lduker9731 11 годин тому +2

      It’s frustrating that so many people don’t actually understand what satanism is.

  • @rayceeya8659
    @rayceeya8659 8 годин тому

    One of my old science teachers used to say science can never ask "Why?", science can only ask "How?".

  • @RufotrisRootedRockhound
    @RufotrisRootedRockhound 11 годин тому +4

    All these DENSITY folks seem to not be able to explain how I can set a piece of lead on top of styrofoam and the lead doesn’t magically move under the styrofoam. 😂
    I have only ever met 1 flat earther in the wild and they jumped straight to density. I asked them the above and they looked genuinely confused for a min before telling me I don’t understand what density is 😂😂😂. 🤦‍♂️ obviously when I asked them to explain density they diverted to the dome and I said we are done, bye… lolz

    • @ljfinger
      @ljfinger 6 годин тому

      Well, you have to be dense to be a flat earther.

  • @captainhindsight6994
    @captainhindsight6994 10 годин тому +1

    Never understood religious peoples aversion to science. Like if you believe in god, you believed god created everything. Therefore, science is us exploring what god made and how it works and naming it

  • @curbotize
    @curbotize 14 годин тому +6

    Scientism.........

    • @leodouskyron5671
      @leodouskyron5671 14 годин тому +2

      Yes but that does not mean what most people think it does.

    • @mrpositronia
      @mrpositronia 14 годин тому +5

      He just hates science so much because it's true, he has to be spiteful towards it. Such a baby.

  • @Dan_C604
    @Dan_C604 11 годин тому +1

    So, when he gets sick, what does he do? Shaman? Magic? I’m pretty sure he goes to a doctor, takes medication and trusts the prognosis and test results….. SCIENCE!!!

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 13 годин тому +4

    Lazy Propagandist: People who believe in the science cult can’t answer why. Like why is gravity 9.8 m/s^2? They don’t have an answer for you.
    Newton: Am I a joke to you?
    Einstein: Am I a joke to you?

    • @synthetic240
      @synthetic240 11 годин тому

      It's easy for him to say that science has no answers for him when he does all his research via Google Images and plugs his ears when anyone tries to answer his questions.

  • @mihagomiunik2758
    @mihagomiunik2758 12 годин тому +1

    As a Christian I can't believe I have been decieved into believing *established, true and proven facts*

    • @Evan-k
      @Evan-k 11 годин тому

      You're still being deceived if you're still a christian

  • @steve-martin-42
    @steve-martin-42 14 годин тому +5

    Because god 🤣😂🤣😂😂

  • @illsaveus
    @illsaveus 3 години тому +1

    Religion doesn’t answer the why question with anything other than “bc god wanted to”. It’s pathetic 😂

  • @DragonNexus
    @DragonNexus 10 годин тому +1

    "We assume of others what we know of ourselves."

  • @Rallarberg
    @Rallarberg Годину тому +1

    6:25 "Why doesn't a kangaroo look like an eagle?"

  • @johnalexir7634
    @johnalexir7634 7 годин тому +1

    This is common for fundamentalists. They can't conceive of anything being driven by reason (science) so they have to twist it around to try to define it as religion so they can engage with it in a way that they understand. The only problem is it's definitionally wrong but that doesn't stop them.