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Hi Dr. Tracy☀️so I was just curious what your thoughts would be on the topic of self-blame. Wednesday doesn't quite express regret often though we see glimpses of it and I couldn't help but wonder how responsible she may have felt after seeing the Tyler vision and then knowing she accused Kinbott AND got Xavier locked up... I was wondering when to draw the line between healthy accountability and unnecessary self blame that becomes unfair to oneself, I personally struggle with this. Thanks as always !!
Could you touch on your thoughts about Xavier’s mental health issues? Also, why do you think Wednesday was so eager to pin everything on Xavier and push him away so much?
I laughed out loud when she said Tyler was a gentle soul, and so nice. Wednesday showing these range of emotions this episode, when she saw Uncle Fester and when Thing was wounded, seeing her change throughout the season has been a highlight of the show. And I don't care if that thing is called a Hyde, I still call it Oogly Boogly
Totally agree! I also didn't like him very much. Although he always seemed so sweet there was something unnatural or exaggerated about him. Or maybe it's just me being biased...I liked Xavier))
Yeah, Tyler's betrayal is sad. No matter who you like in the show, Wednesday was starting to trust him. With Enid at the end, the acceptance between the two, so beautiful. Both Jenna Ortega and Emma Myers did such a good job of acting out their characters and capturing how they help each other grow.
Yeah totally but I found Tyler a bit creepy, maybe it was his constant subtle smirk. I just wasn't that into his character. I'm glad to see Wednesday's love triangle with him end. Wasn't a big fan of the whole love triangle thing at all.
@@drebugsita I was concerned that he was older than the other characters. At 26 an age difference is not so important but at 16... it gets the side eye.
@@auldthymer Jenna Ortega is 20 years old but she’s playing a 16 year old high schooler and the actor who plays Tyler is 28 but plays a character closer to Wednesday’s age, so when you think about it the age gap is 8 years not a problem in my opinion as they’re both adults.
@@mei_aihara7478 i dont think they were trying to equate the character's age to the actor's age. i think they just meant that when you are older an age gap isn't as weird as when you're younger. so if you are 26 and dating someone 4 years younger than you its no big but if you're 18 and dating someone who is 14/15 that could be a bit weird. for whatever reason they dont tell us tylers age. if he's meant to be 16/17 than it isn't an issue. my impression was that tyler had graduated high school the previous year so that would likely make him about 18. most estimates on sites say that he is between 16-19 so its ambiguous.
6:40 actually she says “my roommate couldn’t handle my “toxic personality” so she freely admits what happened was her fault but I think Wednesday feels hurt because Enid couldn’t handle her bad traits
Your reaction to Wednesday and Tyler kissing was sweet and heartbreaking, knowing what we know now. Wednesday and Enid are so opposite yet they accept each other for who they are, flaws and all. Wednesday said it, that she’s evolving. Her personality and traits are the same yet she’s growing and putting down her barriers. As teens, we all said we’d never yet we evolve. Poor Dr Kinbott. While she crossed many boundaries as a therapist, she didn’t deserve that.
I'd be interested in how therapists keep themselves safe. Some clients may be quite disturbed and potentially dangerous. How do they help such clients while keeping themselves safe. How do we as a society deal with those who might be a danger to others as a result of their upbringing or traumatic past?
@@L-K-K Good question! Therapists are trained on how to keep themselves safe. They are often already aware of which clients are likely to exhibit violent behaviors and the relationship helps them learn what warning signs to look for. Preventative steps can include removing possibly dangerous objects (scissors, objects that can be thrown, etc), ensuring the client cannot block the door easily, or having another staff member listen for possible violence. If the client threatens the therapist (and can follow through on the threat) then the therapist is allowed to break confidentially and take appropriate steps to keep themself safe (e.g. tell the police).
Even though she obviously cares about her family (and Enid) in her own way, we can see the special place in her heart for both Uncle Fester and thing. From the genuine toothy smile upon seeing her uncle (there was another one as he described his exploits as well), to the second time she has ever cried when she thought Thing had joined Nero.
*When Wednesday seeks revenge for Pugsly, stands up to the Pilgrim guys for Eugene, tells Enid, just before her date with Ajax, "If he breaks your heart I'll nail gun his.", etc, it kinda reminds of a "Mafia" mentality, which, in addition to being very transactional, as Dr. Courtney points out, once she has accepted them into her "bubble", she'll act like, "You are now under the protection of Wednesday (and Thing) Addams..."*
When Wednesday told Thing "I don't miss her. Friends are a a liability and can be exploited. That makes them weaknesses." she wasn't trying to convince Thing, she was trying to convince herself, because she does miss Enid. We know this because she was straddling Enid's half of the room after Enid left.
Well, I am a bit disappointed that scene between Wednesday and Enid was not analysed to the end. When Enid says "That's just who I am", Wednesday looks at her for a while and then slowly, almost reluctantly nods with acceptance. It is a big step for Wednesday. She begins to accept Enid as a human being. After a while she also says "The Thing really missed you", which, in translation, means "I really missed you"! (Wednesday would not be Wednesday to admit it loud). It is such a great moment and I would love to hear it analysed).
@@vladimirhoffman1787 You said it. It would have made Wednesday get defensive if Enid tried to force her to be direct. It may be frustrating, but that's something that needs patience.
To be fair, at 18:00 Dr Kimbott was not in the frame of mind to be a therapist for Wednesday at the moment. She was fearing for her life cus Xavier just warned her of her death & circumstances of her death.
Your genuine joy at seeing Enid and Wednesday reunite was fun to watch. The fact that they basically did it in a way you laid out earlier when the rift happened in the first price just tells me that you really have an understanding of people and the way people(generally of course) think...
I love that the 91' film established the close relationship between Fester and Wednesday. The Addams' don't play favorites but you can tell Fester has a soft spot for Wednesday and vice versa I also love the way this show interprets Fester. He's still strange, even by this family's standards, but he's also travelled and experienced. Being an encyclopedia for all things scary and deadly but still not knowing *everything*
I knew Tyler was the Monster from the first episode just because I felt like it would be logical for it to be someone outside the school. And because of Wednesday's interest in him I became sure of it. It is Wednesday, a girl who likes digging graves, do autopsies, who tried to kill her classmates even those who didn't bully her brother just were unlucky to be in the pool. Of course she would be interested in a guy with a serious dark side. She even said that Xavier became interesting after she found out about his connection to the Monster. That's just who she is.
I love how genuine your reactions are! You are really happy or sad or sorry... I'm not sure if I'm any good at explaining myself here but for me it's always seemed sort of embarrassing (even if I reacted the same way deep down) so it's just great to see someone react to people's behaviour in such a gentle and genuine way! 🤦♀
'How did an overqualified psychiatrist end up in this inconsequential backwater?' I think Dr. Courtney has outlined the many many reasons someone like Kinbott might be in some backwater. :)
courtney not reacting to all of tyler's blatant manipulation is hilarious, especially when she also gives the example of abusive partner. just FYI if anyone ever says you owe them a date, RUN AWAY!!!
Having a therapist tell me I'm "too much" as she cancelled our appointment last-minute, over the phone, I understand what you meant with how wrong it was of Kinbott to tell Wednesday she needs more help than she can give her. If it wasn't for social workers supporting me, I don't think I would've had the courage to find a new therapist. Now, I have a therapist who took 4 appointments to get to know me, before making any decisions, and even when being brutally honest, she never made me feel like I wasn't worth her time. It's extremely validating to hear someone say "I won't give up on you" when you've felt like the entire world has. Also scary, because those 4 weeks felt like a probation period, but mostly validating. As for what more can be told in the next episode: there's actually a lot that hasn't been resolved yet. Can't wait to see your reaction to the season finale! [SPOILERS for those who decided to read this comment before finished the video] Honestly, my suspect list was short from the start, and Tyler was on the top of my list. He smiles too much, and is suspiciously accepting of Wednesday as she is. On top of that, the hyde had his hair, so it narrowed it down a lot for me. As for the other person: I won't spoil. I'll wait until the next video
Woot! It's here! So happy! Did you notice that seeing Uncle Fester is the one and only time that Wednesday truly and genuinely smiles? What Wednesday did with Dr Kinbott and the hypnotherapy statement was make her admit that she knows how to use those techniques, like with the Hyde.
Loving your look on Wednesday! I’m not sure if you take show recommendations, but if you do, I’d love to see you discuss Netflix’s The Haunting of Hill House! It follows a broken family and delves into grief, addiction, childhood trauma, and more. Each of the siblings is meant to represent one of the 5 stages of grief. It’s one of my favourite shows of all time and I personally think it has brutally honest depictions of depression and addiction, but I’m interested in hearing a professional opinion on it! There are some scenes in clinical settings (rehab center, therapist’s office) as well. On a completely different note, I also have to recommend The Perks of Being a Wallflower, another one of my favourites with another great portrayal of mental illness (in my opinion)
I really love your channel. As someone who’s learning interpersonal skills, learning about why we do things in relationships and how our actions effect others is very valuable to me. Thank you for this!!!
I’m about to graduate with my MSW and I love your breakdown and explanations of everything. It’s really well done and I had many of the same thoughts, reactions and analysis of everything while watching this show. You obviously have so much experience and amazing insight ❤
As psychologist Dr Kimbot is a very good taxidermist. I think that she genuinely wishes to help people, but is let down by her own lack of real skills. The actual reason kimbot is a poor therapist is because she is written that way for the purposes of this stories plot and genre. In the end she is a tragic person in several ways.
I just want to say I've loved watching your reactions to Wednesday (and Arcane earlier) and getting your insights into the mental health topics being depicted and underlying the characters' behavior. It's been both fun and educational. Thank you!
Thank you for calling out the bots. They've been popping up all over youtube, and the more creators who work to get the word out about these scams the better.
The Tyler reveal wrecked me T____T I was so personally betrayed. I hope next season they really lean into researching Hydes more and a Tyler redemption arc (and maybeeeeee a little bit of him being a villain first).
11:07 i have also heard the term “The imaginary audience” to describe that feeling but that term is more used to describe the feel that someone or someones is talking negatively about you. mainly used in School settings. Example being that if you where to walk by a group of kids in hall and they started laughing after pass and assume they laughing about you for something like your hair shirt etc
I don't know what it's better: your analysis or your reactions. They're priceless, especially when I watch them knowing what's about to come 🤣🤣 Can't wait for your comments on the last episode!!
Yup I was just sitting going ooooof when you said Tyler was such a gentile person. It begs the question of long term effects on Wednesday. The last traumatic event in her life was Nero dying and that made her vow to never cry again. Now here she opened herself up to someone, trusted them enough to let them through her barriers and dare I say it she was genuinely happy, then BAM, hes a homicidal monster. Wednesday inherently doesn't trust people but she trusted Tyler. Could that "betrayal" reinforce her resolve to keep people away from her?
Aaaah! I was waiting to see your reactions and your thoughts... I also wanted to thank you you so much for reacting to this series and giving highlighting some points. I love seeing these and hearing about it, it made me even more invested in learning these elements and in the series itself. Wednesday who is always or has her comfort in not caring or being comfortable in letting herself go. I also wonder now, if Tyler was truly appreciating Wednesday or if he was only pretending all this time. One thing is sure, it's pretty twisted. I was waiting to see you react A What I love about this episode, is how Enid accepts herself and how emotional is Wednesday, though she doesn't show it. Bit the subtle 'things said he missed you', I think it was Wednesday way of saying to Enid 'Welcome back', though she will not say it words for words. But Enid is honest as is Wednesday and they do complement well. So many twisted and turned this episode, I can't wait to see and hear your thoughts about the final episode, and how eberugjng comes together... I'm sure you'll have many things to cover. Wednesday doesn't give up, and I think it's this aspect of her that makes her continue and never give up and be so into it. Also, Wednesday smiling shows that she trust and appreciate her uncle. As I've already seen the season, i can't wait to see your reactions for the last episodeAa Anyway, thanks for reacting, I love so much your channel and your insights.
This is very much why I wanted you to cover both separately. SO MUCH happens, and like even more than you think will be recontextualized by the end, and even episode 8 feels like maybe 2 episodes in one.
Love these episodes so much! My brother has borderline and its so nice to see someone talk about it openly without the stigma of them having to be a "bad guy" in film. Also about the relationships throughout the show... I love that everyone has a backstory and has actual reasons for feeling/acting the way that they do it feels so much more realistic. Would love for you to do more shows!
To it felt obvious that Xavier and Kimbot was a misdirect from the beginning. Figured out who it was a couple of episodes in, the clues were all there.
I’m so intrigued to see where Tyler and Wednesday’s relationship goes after this season. Even with the twist and how it’s portrayed in episode 8, I feel like a lot of your insights into Tyler’s character still ring true, and there’s a lot of nuance left to explore in what’s “the real Tyler” vs what’s Laurel’s influence/the Hyde as a distinct personality.
I love love love your reaction to Tyler. You’re just as surprised, invested and heartbroken as I was when I watched that scene. Also, can you do Ginny and Georgia. Amazing deep show!!! Never Have I ever is a teen comedy, but they explore grief and mental health in teenagers
Uncle Fester wasn't being egocentric, he was being paranoid (which may stil be egocentric, I'm not sure) in the beginning of his introduction he had stated he was on the run, mocked Thing for being slow just like on the heist and ofc Tylers father busting in on the date looking for Fester. so Fester had a legitimate reason to think Tyler had "clocked him". I know what it's like to be that paranoid, and it definitely wasn't my ego thinking that I wanted to be seen as I'm oh so great, no. Lol
Exactly, Tylers dad had a wanted poster with Festers picture on it, he wanted to escape or incapacitate Tyler. Also I don't know how much this Fester is the earlier Fester, but he was not egocentric more like lacking some self confident
This episode is really good, I love uncle fester he's just you know kinda goofy and random Also I love how they show more character growth in Wednesday with the smile and her getting really scared and emotional when thing got hurt, she's opening up even more to Tyler by telling him she can trust him and was opened to being more then friends..... until. I also feel like even though she was in a "love triangle" she chose Tyler over Xavier because Tyler was believing her about the monster and everything (which makes sense in the end) and Xavier's exact words were "you're creating a story in your head and using visions to back it up" Also loved that Wednesday and enid were able to get back on good terms
Thanks for separating the last two episodes! Next you should consider doing The White Lotus (HBO) and breaking down family trauma + some depression and alcoholism 🫠
I saw Tyler's red flags even without thinking he is a Hyde. He tells Wednesday that he is a changed man, that he is a nice person, and doesnt want to bully anyone anymore. But then after Wednesday says that she have done a lot more horrible things, Tyler immidiatly says "I knew there was a reason I liked you". Like dude, you just said that you regret your past actions, but the minute Wednesday says that she doesn't care, Tyler is all over that. 🤷♀️ Plus, when he realized that Wednesday asked Xavier on a dance, he was frustrated because he wasn't in control, and was failing a task by his Master to get close with Wednesday. So he tried to manipulate Wednesday by saying she send him signals when in reality she never did.
@@growingupwithdisney Tyler has many fans and they want him to be good so bad, so of course they will ignore his toxic traits. Or they will say that Wednesday is toxic too so they should be together or something, when in reality she lost her interest and trust the second she found out how he used her, lied to her, hurt her friends and set up Xavier.
I just love the relationship between Enid and Wednesday. There's one moment in the scene where they make up that to me explains why their friendship works. It's when Wednesday says "Thing said he missed you.", and Enid sort of sighs, looks straight at her and answers "I missed him too.". Because not only does Enid KNOW that Wednesday means SHE missed her, but she also knows not to push Wednesday or call her out on using Thing as a proxy for her own emotions (And she's right, because Wednesday would close up SO hard if she did), but just take it as a win and reply on the same level. I also think that that's why they like eachother. Wednesday genuinely doesn't enjoy Enid's mannerism and style, but she doesn't judge her on that because she sees beyond it and respect her for what's behind all that fluff: the value of unapologetically being yourself despite what other people (especially moms) think. Because THAT is what they share in common. And Enid likes Wednesday because she senses and reciprocates that respect. She doesn't like Wednesday's dark stuff either, but she does feel seen by her. And that's what she ultimately craves most. And apart from that. Enid has a positivity and a way with people that Wednesday lacks herself, but profits from. And Wednesday has strategic insight and a fearlessness that Enid lacks herself, but profits from. So together they could do pretty much everything, as proven by them winning that boat race by working together. It's a really fun and touching dynamic, and I sincerely hope the producers dare to let it be in the next season(s). Because serial television as a media genre has a tendency to let its fear of viewers getting bored without constant change mess up the relationship dynamics that work. Either by trapping them in arrested developement, or changing them until they lose what made them tick in the first place.
@the.truth.doctor I haven't watched episode 8 yet (so perhaps you've done sth already), and I am in the midst of 7. But perhaps you can add an extra video with a general overview, things you missed, what you liked or disliked, and hope to see in S2? It is too bad I don't have the €€ for an HBO subscription to watch The Last of Us, or I would certainly turn to your channel again (I'm still epically sad Mindhunter was cancelled after 1 glorious season. That would've been great to do too). I absolutely love watching these videos, your genuine responses to what's happening in the episodes and the way you give us your analysis- so empathetic and knowledgeable. I wish I'd had therapists like you, I probably would have felt I could truly open up. My experiences only made me feel worse. I initially went to them forced as part of revalidation programmes because of my chronic illnesses - thus couldn't even choose a psychologist with whom I vibed. It wasn't until I had a severe reactive depression to losing my complete health, home, work, income, brother, partner and 98% of my social circle all in the span of 1.5yrs, as a result of getting suddenly too ill, that I chose to go voluntarily. By then I was suicidal, but upon opening up in a last resort of clinging to life a lot of people around me either dismissed my feelings or blamed *me* for "letting it get this far". Despite my horrible experiences with therapy I eventually went to my family doctor and asked her for help. I obviously didn't have any confidants in my social circle or family....She sent me to a psychiatrist instead - in case medication was needed, but also because she thought I would vibe more with someone more educated (her words, not mine). Maybe because she knew I usually wore a "happy, all is okay" mask because my environment would chop me to pieces otherwise, and feared someone else couldn't get through. No matter the reason, that therapist really helped me. Most importantly to see my own worth again, even though I went from "Independent woman with a high position and above average income with her own home, in a steady 10yr long relationship and loads of friends" to "Dependent woman below the poverty line, with no one to turn to, running the risk of ending up on the streets despite not being able to walk and in pain 24/7". The irony is that my life only got worse the years after if you take just my health and isolation into account (I might have found trust in mental health professionals, but my trust in the rest of the medical field is at an all time low - so many serious mistakes! ). But his therapy opened me up to the fighter that I've always been inside, but that was simply beat down as a result of circumstances in my youth, teens and then. Because of him I not only found the strength to deal with a specific trauma with another specialised therapist later on, but I fought for my needs. I cut ties with certain people and took up the fight against the government as well. As a result I (it took 10 years! ) am on full benefits now. Among the lower income groups, but no longer truly poor. And I have found a small home close to a drugstore, pharmacy and supermarket so I can get there in my wheelchair. My biggest hope is that I'll be able to do some volunteering work some day, maybe even start a simple blog, to help those in a similar position (I honestly think those who have or had mental or physical health issues themselves are quite often the far better coach or therapist. I was asked as a consultant, but the damage to my body & brain turned out to be so extensive I couldn't do the training or work hours). I will never ever speak disparaging about therapy or therapists again, knowing what I know now, but with the caveat that it is absolutely essential to find the right one for you. I've had several Kinbotts before I found my Truth Doctors ;). Hope to see you again in the future with a show I can follow/ like. PS. That husband of yours is a keeper ;). Love from The Netherlands.
One thing I find strange in this series is that Wednesday is portraited as someone smart, but then she goes around throwing accusations without so much as one concrete evidence
Smart is a vague term. A doctor is smart at medicine but dumb at engineering. Wednesday is clever at deduction but you are correct that isn't evidence. So Wednesday is smart in the piano and other skills but terrible at convincing others without manipulation. But if she was perfect their would be no conflict to follow her as the main character. Or people would whine that she is a Mary Sue/Superman type character.
There’s different types of intelligence. I have seen people who are called “genius” do the same thing 👀 Some might been great at intelectual intelligence but not so much for with emotional intelligence (?) Anyway, we are humans, we make mistakes ^^
Not only that but she openly accuses someone who she thinks is a serial killer monster or the master of a serial killer monster without any back-ups or useful offensive magical powers of her own. As I keep saying,she's the dumbest smart person I've ever seen!🤦♂
@@Dryltd exactly. Morticia even tells Wednesday that she is brilliant but that she often get in her own way which I took to mean that Wednesday can be immature at times.
I've always very much loved people like Wednesday and Morticia - and I didn't understand why until I dated an autistic girl who identified as aromantic asexual (also, this was my 1st relationship with a girl after I came out). It was new for the both of us and we were slow and careful about it in order for us to test the boundaries with what she was careful with (what with me being a highly emotional romantic), and at the end of the day, this was the most rewarding and safe relationship with a person I had ever had. In the end we parted ways, but to this day those boundaries that I learned are now so important to me when I meet new people. And I love seeing those relationships that Wednesday has with Enid and Eugene and Uncle Fester, because it just shows that is can create a safe space for both the people in that type of relationship
I am autistic and aroace but I was wondering...was she aroace or demiromantic? The reason I ask is that I cannot imagine wanting to date anyone per se...simply because definitionally most people...even those who are dating and asexual - still expect a romantic connection. Did you find it was more a queerplatonic relationship for your girlfriend? Take care :)
@kpaxian Hi there! So yeah, we definitely discussed this quite often because I never wanted to project any romantic notions onto her and have her feel forced to return it because of years of masking, but she definitely identified more aroace than demiromantic. She would often be aesthetically attracted to all people, but the minute she communicates with someone she was very easily turned off. It was easy to cut off a relationship with someone who didn't click with her, because having to put in more effort than necessary was very draining, and then she needs time alone to decompress. But she was also very curious about things with regards to relationships, but just never clicked with anyone enough to feel comfortable going any further. As for the queerplatonic relationship: in the first year, this was how I imagined she saw it. Like it was very platonic looking in public, and then some affection when we're alone - she had boundaries in place about touching her hands and neck area (made her feel a lot of discomfort). But then later, she asked for more displays of affection, even sometimes around other people, but I always still asked permission in case she felt a little overwhelmed on the day. This very much developed from a friendship, so perhaps that shift to companionship was a little easier, and there was never any pressure of sex or pda for me to want to have a connection with her. But she still maintains that she doesn't really have any interest in being romantically involved with anyone. I hope this answered your question!😅
Spoilers for EP 7 If you think back to the first episode, Wednesday gets a vision that someone is killing Rowan when she touches Taylor, after rewatching it there was alot of more clues that it was Tyler. Like how his father doesn't flinch when he sees the Hyde in the photograph, that Tyler stares at his mom when he's at Nevermore. Many others too. But I missed them all the first time watching it. I just knew that Xavier wasn't guilty because that would've been too obvious.
Love the analysis. One thing from the start that made me research that I felt so passionately about the Cello scene is the resemblance to Frank Miller’s Batman from 1986. Page 47. To let them know, Merkel, to let EVERYONE KNOW
8:37 I've never related more. I find that I'm very much like Wednesday, an when I first watched the show that gave me a thrill. When I see Wednesday saying, acting, doing, and being everything that I as well do, it's rlly satisfying, to see someone similar to you, like you just understand them. I love it. Anyways, I digress. I was saying that the whole "emotions equal weakness" mindset is very much how I view it, and the change Wednesday is experiencing is also occurring in my life, so yes, it's scary. It's hard, and uncomfortable. I can understand that too.
Love your take on this episode! In particular the "changing experiences" aspect. Had both positive and negative ones, still trying to integrate or balance them. Was curious if you would find it a helpful point to examine: What does it mean to be normal or is there such thing? This term keeps getting thrown around in this series and I am curious to hear your professional point of view on this concept. Thank you and looking forward to the next episode :)
Her reaction to the kiss + vision scene was literally the exact same as mine XD I was so upset, it was so cute for what 😭😭 Also I loved the part talking about different ways of showing love. It made me think that there are different ways of showing everything. I’ve noticed that the way I acknowledge people is not “normal”. When most people would wave in passing, I just give a small smile. Sometimes when someone says something that I don’t have any input on I make a small noise to acknowledge they said something. Basically when I acknowledge things, it’s easy to miss and I’ve recently worried that people don’t realize I acknowledged them and think im rude. Im going to start talking to people about it so that they are aware of how my brain works and that im not ignoring them, they just didn’t notice what I did. (I’ll also work on the small noise thing)
Something that changed me a little for the worse… during covid, early 2021, a friend and I broke up. It was sudden and I woke up to his text. Since, it’s made me pull away from my relationships and reaching out. I think this was because of my trust issues to begin with, how MUCH I trusted and entrusted information about myself and my feelings to this person over 4 years, the sudden ending of it all (kinda close to my birthday btw), and the pain I was left with. Before this, emotional honesty and closeness was a struggle. And like Wednesday, I was taught something similar to “friends are a weakness that can be exploited” (thereby emotional repression.. “don’t share too much or it could be used against you”). So this break up was quite detrimental 😅. He and I had a phone call a year later, he did ask me how I was, but acted as if nothing ever happened and when I brought it up, he didn’t remember. And he spoke for most of it. Luckily though, it did give me some closure.
What Xavier said about believing her when nobody else did isn't necessarily untrue since he knew about the monster. After all, it kept appearing to him in his dreams and even attacked him when it came out through his art. He was just trying to steer Wednesday away from looking for the creature at first in an attempt to keep her safe.
6:28: "Former roommate couldn't handle my toxic personality." As someone with a few venomous stingers in my nature, I'd like to stand up for Wednesday in this comment. Yes, she's putting the exit on Enid ... but in the same statement she's conceding her contribution in that she's not pleasant to be around.
The way you spoke on funerals is something I never came to the realization. As funerals are never easy, taking time to reflect on the loved one and our relationship with them, whether good or bad, can give us insight on what we need to work on or carry into the future. Either way, it is an important learning lesson and can benefit who we are. Maybe there’s things that need improving, maybe it’s enlightenment on how the person lived, etc. Very interesting to reflect on, thank you for your insight on this!
I’ve absolutely loved your videos following Wednesday, your reactions have been brilliant and I’ve found it really fascinating learning more about the psychology of the characters within the show. Would you consider doing Ginny and Georgia in the future? There is a lot to unpack in that series and I would love to hear your thoughts on it as I think it has some really great topics to discuss and there doesn’t seem to be much content on the psychology side of the show that I can see which surprises me given how popular it is and there is so much to explore!
Idk why these videos fascinate me so much. I don’t know if it’s my obsession with Wednesday, or my interest in people things. I get enough from my therapy sessions but I love these videos so much
There was a question about changing after some kind of an event. So: someone that I really loved and cared of passed away (when I was, like, 9 yo) and so did my feelings. Now I cry, fear and laugh way less and like tragic, horror, sad movies/books way more, and I find ironic, sarcasm, etc. funny. Now I am less open and empathic. +I kinda still feel grief and pain but it's like I don't really understand or detect it.
@@the.truth.doctor He never talks about HOW he knows what he knows and I have a feeling a lot of it might stem from how his father raised him. Just from the small snippets... 1. That power is unstable. 2. His dad is the 'expert'. 3. I have to wonder if he isn't worried his dad would either upstage him or exploit him.
Another great reaction and educational analysis, cannot wait for the last episode from you. P.S. I would really like to see you psychoanalyze the Firefly series if you haven't seen it yet. If not, then please add it to your list of series you may consider watching in the future. I think it will be a great fit for your channel and the way you do reactions.
Two words: Film Early. The best of both worlds, watch Wednesday and film it now and then you can just edit it for release next Wednesday. I wouldn't want to wait either
I just wanna point out that Wednesday outright references Jekyll & Hyde, hence the name of the monster, which leads to the popular theory that Tyler and the Hyde are two separate personas with the Hyde slowly taking over.
I respect your "bagging" on Dr Kinbott for being a not as good as she should be as a therapist. I have to wonder if her problem with professional boundaries and penchant for taxidermy might be the cause of her choosing to move to Jericho.
´fun fact´ or not because its a funeral: wearing black at a funeral is from i do not know which century, but it was superstition that by wearing black, you would keep the ghosts out.
As far as I know it, it was queen Victoria who dressed in all-black for the rest of her life after her husband, prince Albert, died and that set a trend that we have to this day. Others wear white for the same effect.
Love your videos! Could you possibly cover Ginny and Georgia? I'd be really interested in the psychology between the main characters, especially in season two. Cant wait for the final episode of this series :)
Your reactions are a good companion to the show particularly for anyone that relates to the character of Wednesday which is problly 99% of people. I feel like I'm learing as much about myself as I am about the show. Very useful. Often when I see so and so reacts to whatever it's at least 50+% click bait but I can't fault your credibility. Well done!
Another great episode. The episode before this one is good too, but forgot to comment that. I look forward to you reacting to the last episode of season 1, and hearing what you have to say about Enid and Wednesday in the finale.
I'm a bit older than most of your viewers, and of the show Wednesday, but I have a younger daughter so, I feel I can comment freely, I have to say this, the show was really well done, because I think that Tim Burton took the time or knows The Addams Family history and was able to capture the look and feel of each character around Wednesday, and he perfectly defined her persona, I watched it all, I dislike binge-watching Netflix I am old school, so I normally watch one episode each week, well I tried, I did watch the last two together, very good show, and thank you, Doctor Courtney for your analysis of the show very well done.
I would love to see your reactions/commentary on Ginny and Georgia. (Spoilers and trigger warning) . . . Season 2 really explores one of the characters struggle with self-harm and starting counseling and another character struggles with strong depressive episodes. It seems like a really empathetic portrayal, but would obviously love to hear your thoughts!
He said many times and acted as if he didn't believe her, yet he appeared everywhere, as if he were Eugene who accompanied her on her adventures but from the shadows. It is the only explanation that I find for what Xavier said.
In more than one episode of acute agoraphobia I got very, acutely aware of people looking at me or in my general direction when I absolutely had to go out of my house for groceries and it was decidedly unpleasant. It freaked me out. My heart rate accelerated markedly. My breathing was hard and fast. At that point I knew what an incipient panic attack felt like / presented as. I was well aware. It had happened before. Did my best to cope / ignore. Breathing techniques, mostly. Your point about people who are acutely aware of others regard for them in regards to Uncle Fester as either egocentric or narcissistic (with graphics) struck me as both binary and reductive. When I was in the very maladaptive depths of that agoraphobic state if any random stranger looked vaguely in my direction it caused an acute anxiety spike. I think I might be conflating layman understanding of the word "egocentric" to your more clinical definition. I do not exhibit egocentric behavior. I was so freaked out about going outside my cocoon that getting mail out of the mail box before 2 AM when everybody should be asleep freaked me out so hard that I couldn't do it for weeks. Someone could see me and that was a thing to be avoided. The problem with agoraphobia is that eventually you have to go to the grocery store.
I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS. 😳FYI for copyright purposes we have to cut out a lot of our scenes/commentary. If there is something missing from this episode that you'd like me to comment on let me know and I'll try and answer it in the comments. Thank you for being here! 🖤 👇
UA-cam deleted my comment 🤬💢 so I posted it on the Community section.
Hi Dr. Tracy☀️so I was just curious what your thoughts would be on the topic of self-blame. Wednesday doesn't quite express regret often though we see glimpses of it and I couldn't help but wonder how responsible she may have felt after seeing the Tyler vision and then knowing she accused Kinbott AND got Xavier locked up... I was wondering when to draw the line between healthy accountability and unnecessary self blame that becomes unfair to oneself, I personally struggle with this. Thanks as always !!
Could you touch on your thoughts about Xavier’s mental health issues? Also, why do you think Wednesday was so eager to pin everything on Xavier and push him away so much?
can u do a therapist reacts to Ginny AND GEORGIA PLES
That sucks! UA-cam can be so capricious. You've got the law on your side, and the algorithm just doesn't care.
I laughed out loud when she said Tyler was a gentle soul, and so nice. Wednesday showing these range of emotions this episode, when she saw Uncle Fester and when Thing was wounded, seeing her change throughout the season has been a highlight of the show. And I don't care if that thing is called a Hyde, I still call it Oogly Boogly
Me too, I never liked him
@@Mar-nx6ql he was groomed not his fault
he was cool until episode 7 lmao
@@azaleabrian2619 he was a bully so...
Totally agree!
I also didn't like him very much. Although he always seemed so sweet there was something unnatural or exaggerated about him. Or maybe it's just me being biased...I liked Xavier))
Yeah, Tyler's betrayal is sad. No matter who you like in the show, Wednesday was starting to trust him.
With Enid at the end, the acceptance between the two, so beautiful. Both Jenna Ortega and Emma Myers did such a good job of acting out their characters and capturing how they help each other grow.
Yeah totally but I found Tyler a bit creepy, maybe it was his constant subtle smirk. I just wasn't that into his character. I'm glad to see Wednesday's love triangle with him end. Wasn't a big fan of the whole love triangle thing at all.
@@drebugsita I was concerned that he was older than the other characters. At 26 an age difference is not so important but at 16... it gets the side eye.
@@auldthymer the actor is older the character isn't they are almost the same age
@@auldthymer Jenna Ortega is 20 years old but she’s playing a 16 year old high schooler and the actor who plays Tyler is 28 but plays a character closer to Wednesday’s age, so when you think about it the age gap is 8 years not a problem in my opinion as they’re both adults.
@@mei_aihara7478 i dont think they were trying to equate the character's age to the actor's age. i think they just meant that when you are older an age gap isn't as weird as when you're younger. so if you are 26 and dating someone 4 years younger than you its no big but if you're 18 and dating someone who is 14/15 that could be a bit weird. for whatever reason they dont tell us tylers age. if he's meant to be 16/17 than it isn't an issue. my impression was that tyler had graduated high school the previous year so that would likely make him about 18. most estimates on sites say that he is between 16-19 so its ambiguous.
Enid and Wednesday’s relationship was my favorite part of this show… also when you called Tyler sweet I actually laughed.
6:40 actually she says “my roommate couldn’t handle my “toxic personality” so she freely admits what happened was her fault but I think Wednesday feels hurt because Enid couldn’t handle her bad traits
Ahhhh very good point!
I thought that too!
But she still isn't mature enough to take responsibility for her toxicity instead of making it other's responsibility to "handle" it.
Your reaction to Wednesday and Tyler kissing was sweet and heartbreaking, knowing what we know now.
Wednesday and Enid are so opposite yet they accept each other for who they are, flaws and all.
Wednesday said it, that she’s evolving. Her personality and traits are the same yet she’s growing and putting down her barriers. As teens, we all said we’d never yet we evolve.
Poor Dr Kinbott. While she crossed many boundaries as a therapist, she didn’t deserve that.
True Dr.Kimbott was really bad therapist but I wonder if she was killed because she was getting to close to the truth also.
I'd be interested in how therapists keep themselves safe. Some clients may be quite disturbed and potentially dangerous. How do they help such clients while keeping themselves safe. How do we as a society deal with those who might be a danger to others as a result of their upbringing or traumatic past?
@@L-K-K Good question! Therapists are trained on how to keep themselves safe. They are often already aware of which clients are likely to exhibit violent behaviors and the relationship helps them learn what warning signs to look for. Preventative steps can include removing possibly dangerous objects (scissors, objects that can be thrown, etc), ensuring the client cannot block the door easily, or having another staff member listen for possible violence. If the client threatens the therapist (and can follow through on the threat) then the therapist is allowed to break confidentially and take appropriate steps to keep themself safe (e.g. tell the police).
Episode 7 was BY FAR the most jam-packed, craziest episode I've ever seen, what a rollercoaster 😭
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Ep 8 is even more of a crazy rollercoaster IMO.@.@
@@Nicamon OMG I'll lose my mind, what a good show 😭
Not really. In this case, last episode of season was the most one.
@@yaroslavpanych2067 well I meant like up until 8 I hadn't really seen anything that had so much reveal and emotion in my opinion :)
Even though she obviously cares about her family (and Enid) in her own way, we can see the special place in her heart for both Uncle Fester and thing. From the genuine toothy smile upon seeing her uncle (there was another one as he described his exploits as well), to the second time she has ever cried when she thought Thing had joined Nero.
so are so wrong for the end
*When Wednesday seeks revenge for Pugsly, stands up to the Pilgrim guys for Eugene, tells Enid, just before her date with Ajax, "If he breaks your heart I'll nail gun his.", etc, it kinda reminds of a "Mafia" mentality, which, in addition to being very transactional, as Dr. Courtney points out, once she has accepted them into her "bubble", she'll act like, "You are now under the protection of Wednesday (and Thing) Addams..."*
Good point ☝️
Love this😂😂
When Wednesday told Thing "I don't miss her. Friends are a a liability and can be exploited. That makes them weaknesses." she wasn't trying to convince Thing, she was trying to convince herself, because she does miss Enid. We know this because she was straddling Enid's half of the room after Enid left.
Well, I am a bit disappointed that scene between Wednesday and Enid was not analysed to the end. When Enid says "That's just who I am", Wednesday looks at her for a while and then slowly, almost reluctantly nods with acceptance. It is a big step for Wednesday. She begins to accept Enid as a human being. After a while she also says "The Thing really missed you", which, in translation, means "I really missed you"! (Wednesday would not be Wednesday to admit it loud). It is such a great moment and I would love to hear it analysed).
My feeling is that the scene was perfectly clear and out in the open without need for interpretation!
@@johnsaller2481 The same applies to the directly preceding scene and still it was discussed. I just wanted to go somewhat deeper and further.
@@johnsaller2481i agree
@@vladimirhoffman1787 You said it. It would have made Wednesday get defensive if Enid tried to force her to be direct. It may be frustrating, but that's something that needs patience.
To be fair, at 18:00 Dr Kimbott was not in the frame of mind to be a therapist for Wednesday at the moment. She was fearing for her life cus Xavier just warned her of her death & circumstances of her death.
I hadn't thought about that but I guess you're right. He probably told her in the sessions they have together.
Your genuine joy at seeing Enid and Wednesday reunite was fun to watch. The fact that they basically did it in a way you laid out earlier when the rift happened in the first price just tells me that you really have an understanding of people and the way people(generally of course) think...
I love that the 91' film established the close relationship between Fester and Wednesday. The Addams' don't play favorites but you can tell Fester has a soft spot for Wednesday and vice versa
I also love the way this show interprets Fester. He's still strange, even by this family's standards, but he's also travelled and experienced. Being an encyclopedia for all things scary and deadly but still not knowing *everything*
I knew Tyler was the Monster from the first episode just because I felt like it would be logical for it to be someone outside the school. And because of Wednesday's interest in him I became sure of it. It is Wednesday, a girl who likes digging graves, do autopsies, who tried to kill her classmates even those who didn't bully her brother just were unlucky to be in the pool. Of course she would be interested in a guy with a serious dark side. She even said that Xavier became interesting after she found out about his connection to the Monster. That's just who she is.
I clocked it because his eyes as a human are the same. He does the same bug eye head tilt.
I love how genuine your reactions are! You are really happy or sad or sorry... I'm not sure if I'm any good at explaining myself here but for me it's always seemed sort of embarrassing (even if I reacted the same way deep down) so it's just great to see someone react to people's behaviour in such a gentle and genuine way! 🤦♀
'How did an overqualified psychiatrist end up in this inconsequential backwater?'
I think Dr. Courtney has outlined the many many reasons someone like Kinbott might be in some backwater. :)
courtney not reacting to all of tyler's blatant manipulation is hilarious, especially when she also gives the example of abusive partner. just FYI if anyone ever says you owe them a date, RUN AWAY!!!
Yes, someone keeping score in that manner is a serious serious RED flag!
well he said it in jest tho. it wasn't actually serious
I love the way that sometimes she is just watching the show and having the most spontaneous reactions.
The moment the hyde appeared. 😂
Having a therapist tell me I'm "too much" as she cancelled our appointment last-minute, over the phone, I understand what you meant with how wrong it was of Kinbott to tell Wednesday she needs more help than she can give her.
If it wasn't for social workers supporting me, I don't think I would've had the courage to find a new therapist.
Now, I have a therapist who took 4 appointments to get to know me, before making any decisions, and even when being brutally honest, she never made me feel like I wasn't worth her time.
It's extremely validating to hear someone say "I won't give up on you" when you've felt like the entire world has.
Also scary, because those 4 weeks felt like a probation period, but mostly validating.
As for what more can be told in the next episode: there's actually a lot that hasn't been resolved yet.
Can't wait to see your reaction to the season finale!
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Honestly, my suspect list was short from the start, and Tyler was on the top of my list.
He smiles too much, and is suspiciously accepting of Wednesday as she is.
On top of that, the hyde had his hair, so it narrowed it down a lot for me.
As for the other person: I won't spoil.
I'll wait until the next video
Woot! It's here! So happy!
Did you notice that seeing Uncle Fester is the one and only time that Wednesday truly and genuinely smiles?
What Wednesday did with Dr Kinbott and the hypnotherapy statement was make her admit that she knows how to use those techniques, like with the Hyde.
He's the fun uncle the kids love, for sure.
Wednesday covants what she wants to be.
Loving your look on Wednesday! I’m not sure if you take show recommendations, but if you do, I’d love to see you discuss Netflix’s The Haunting of Hill House! It follows a broken family and delves into grief, addiction, childhood trauma, and more. Each of the siblings is meant to represent one of the 5 stages of grief. It’s one of my favourite shows of all time and I personally think it has brutally honest depictions of depression and addiction, but I’m interested in hearing a professional opinion on it! There are some scenes in clinical settings (rehab center, therapist’s office) as well. On a completely different note, I also have to recommend The Perks of Being a Wallflower, another one of my favourites with another great portrayal of mental illness (in my opinion)
I really love your channel. As someone who’s learning interpersonal skills, learning about why we do things in relationships and how our actions effect others is very valuable to me. Thank you for this!!!
I’m about to graduate with my MSW and I love your breakdown and explanations of everything. It’s really well done and I had many of the same thoughts, reactions and analysis of everything while watching this show. You obviously have so much experience and amazing insight ❤
Congrats! And thank you so much :)
As psychologist Dr Kimbot is a very good taxidermist. I think that she genuinely wishes to help people, but is let down by her own lack of real skills. The actual reason kimbot is a poor therapist is because she is written that way for the purposes of this stories plot and genre. In the end she is a tragic person in several ways.
Basically she's not bad,she's just drawn that way.😉
@@Nicamon Shout out to Riki Lindhome!
i love wednesday and i love that she’s grown sm in these episodes. SHE HAS FEELINGS YALL
I just want to say I've loved watching your reactions to Wednesday (and Arcane earlier) and getting your insights into the mental health topics being depicted and underlying the characters' behavior. It's been both fun and educational. Thank you!
Thank you for calling out the bots. They've been popping up all over youtube, and the more creators who work to get the word out about these scams the better.
I did laugh when you loved how kind and gentle Tyler was. It is unfortunate since he would be really good if he wasn't....ya know....the Hyde.
Hahaha very true very true
The Tyler reveal wrecked me T____T I was so personally betrayed.
I hope next season they really lean into researching Hydes more and a Tyler redemption arc (and maybeeeeee a little bit of him being a villain first).
11:07 i have also heard the term “The imaginary audience” to describe that feeling but that term is more used to describe the feel that someone or someones is talking negatively about you.
mainly used in School settings.
Example being that if you where to walk by a group of kids in hall and they started laughing after pass and assume they laughing about you for something like your hair shirt etc
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Hahaha I love this
@@the.truth.doctor bots are targeting Every youtubers With a lot of subcribers
@@kittylikemebluejay9723 yeah, it sucks
@@unathearoacemenace3157 even she only has 48k subs shes being target by bots
I don't know what it's better: your analysis or your reactions. They're priceless, especially when I watch them knowing what's about to come 🤣🤣
Can't wait for your comments on the last episode!!
My favourite part about this show was Enid and Wednesdays relationship. I can't wait to see your reaction to the final episode.
22:25 my fav part lol
Yup I was just sitting going ooooof when you said Tyler was such a gentile person.
It begs the question of long term effects on Wednesday. The last traumatic event in her life was Nero dying and that made her vow to never cry again. Now here she opened herself up to someone, trusted them enough to let them through her barriers and dare I say it she was genuinely happy, then BAM, hes a homicidal monster. Wednesday inherently doesn't trust people but she trusted Tyler. Could that "betrayal" reinforce her resolve to keep people away from her?
Aaaah! I was waiting to see your reactions and your thoughts... I also wanted to thank you you so much for reacting to this series and giving highlighting some points. I love seeing these and hearing about it, it made me even more invested in learning these elements and in the series itself.
Wednesday who is always or has her comfort in not caring or being comfortable in letting herself go.
I also wonder now, if Tyler was truly appreciating Wednesday or if he was only pretending all this time.
One thing is sure, it's pretty twisted.
I was waiting to see you react A
What I love about this episode, is how Enid accepts herself and how emotional is Wednesday, though she doesn't show it. Bit the subtle 'things said he missed you', I think it was Wednesday way of saying to Enid 'Welcome back', though she will not say it words for words.
But Enid is honest as is Wednesday and they do complement well.
So many twisted and turned this episode, I can't wait to see and hear your thoughts about the final episode, and how eberugjng comes together... I'm sure you'll have many things to cover.
Wednesday doesn't give up, and I think it's this aspect of her that makes her continue and never give up and be so into it.
Also, Wednesday smiling shows that she trust and appreciate her uncle.
As I've already seen the season, i can't wait to see your reactions for the last episodeAa
Anyway, thanks for reacting, I love so much your channel and your insights.
This is very much why I wanted you to cover both separately. SO MUCH happens, and like even more than you think will be recontextualized by the end, and even episode 8 feels like maybe 2 episodes in one.
Love these episodes so much! My brother has borderline and its so nice to see someone talk about it openly without the stigma of them having to be a "bad guy" in film.
Also about the relationships throughout the show... I love that everyone has a backstory and has actual reasons for feeling/acting the way that they do it feels so much more realistic.
Would love for you to do more shows!
Love how the perfect therapist is online...
When a show makes you cry about a freakin' hand, you know the show is great!😅
To it felt obvious that Xavier and Kimbot was a misdirect from the beginning. Figured out who it was a couple of episodes in, the clues were all there.
I really thought Dr. Kinbott had something to do with it!!
I’m so intrigued to see where Tyler and Wednesday’s relationship goes after this season. Even with the twist and how it’s portrayed in episode 8, I feel like a lot of your insights into Tyler’s character still ring true, and there’s a lot of nuance left to explore in what’s “the real Tyler” vs what’s Laurel’s influence/the Hyde as a distinct personality.
I love love love your reaction to Tyler. You’re just as surprised, invested and heartbroken as I was when I watched that scene.
Also, can you do Ginny and Georgia. Amazing deep show!!! Never Have I ever is a teen comedy, but they explore grief and mental health in teenagers
Uncle Fester wasn't being egocentric, he was being paranoid (which may stil be egocentric, I'm not sure) in the beginning of his introduction he had stated he was on the run, mocked Thing for being slow just like on the heist and ofc Tylers father busting in on the date looking for Fester. so Fester had a legitimate reason to think Tyler had "clocked him". I know what it's like to be that paranoid, and it definitely wasn't my ego thinking that I wanted to be seen as I'm oh so great, no. Lol
Exactly, Tylers dad had a wanted poster with Festers picture on it, he wanted to escape or incapacitate Tyler. Also I don't know how much this Fester is the earlier Fester, but he was not egocentric more like lacking some self confident
This episode is really good, I love uncle fester he's just you know kinda goofy and random
Also I love how they show more character growth in Wednesday with the smile and her getting really scared and emotional when thing got hurt, she's opening up even more to Tyler by telling him she can trust him and was opened to being more then friends..... until. I also feel like even though she was in a "love triangle" she chose Tyler over Xavier because Tyler was believing her about the monster and everything (which makes sense in the end) and Xavier's exact words were "you're creating a story in your head and using visions to back it up"
Also loved that Wednesday and enid were able to get back on good terms
Thanks for separating the last two episodes! Next you should consider doing The White Lotus (HBO) and breaking down family trauma + some depression and alcoholism 🫠
I saw Tyler's red flags even without thinking he is a Hyde.
He tells Wednesday that he is a changed man, that he is a nice person, and doesnt want to bully anyone anymore.
But then after Wednesday says that she have done a lot more horrible things, Tyler immidiatly says "I knew there was a reason I liked you".
Like dude, you just said that you regret your past actions, but the minute Wednesday says that she doesn't care, Tyler is all over that. 🤷♀️
Plus, when he realized that Wednesday asked Xavier on a dance, he was frustrated because he wasn't in control, and was failing a task by his Master to get close with Wednesday. So he tried to manipulate Wednesday by saying she send him signals when in reality she never did.
That's actually really insightful!
“Red flags” omg y’all are so annoying
@@marialuisaoliveira1009 okay, why do you bother to interact with someone annoying then?
@@didinau the audacity, when she’s literally dead wrong😅these were genuinely red flags since Tyler is the monster
@@growingupwithdisney Tyler has many fans and they want him to be good so bad, so of course they will ignore his toxic traits. Or they will say that Wednesday is toxic too so they should be together or something, when in reality she lost her interest and trust the second she found out how he used her, lied to her, hurt her friends and set up Xavier.
I had the same reaction as u with the reveal of Tyler being the Hyde and their kiss 😂😂
I just love the relationship between Enid and Wednesday. There's one moment in the scene where they make up that to me explains why their friendship works. It's when Wednesday says "Thing said he missed you.", and Enid sort of sighs, looks straight at her and answers "I missed him too.". Because not only does Enid KNOW that Wednesday means SHE missed her, but she also knows not to push Wednesday or call her out on using Thing as a proxy for her own emotions (And she's right, because Wednesday would close up SO hard if she did), but just take it as a win and reply on the same level.
I also think that that's why they like eachother. Wednesday genuinely doesn't enjoy Enid's mannerism and style, but she doesn't judge her on that because she sees beyond it and respect her for what's behind all that fluff: the value of unapologetically being yourself despite what other people (especially moms) think. Because THAT is what they share in common. And Enid likes Wednesday because she senses and reciprocates that respect. She doesn't like Wednesday's dark stuff either, but she does feel seen by her. And that's what she ultimately craves most.
And apart from that. Enid has a positivity and a way with people that Wednesday lacks herself, but profits from. And Wednesday has strategic insight and a fearlessness that Enid lacks herself, but profits from. So together they could do pretty much everything, as proven by them winning that boat race by working together. It's a really fun and touching dynamic, and I sincerely hope the producers dare to let it be in the next season(s). Because serial television as a media genre has a tendency to let its fear of viewers getting bored without constant change mess up the relationship dynamics that work. Either by trapping them in arrested developement, or changing them until they lose what made them tick in the first place.
Damn, I really thought you would have something to say about what Xavier said about how his dad saw his sons mental health as a PR problem.
I rewatched the episode and realized I missed this AND when Fester talks about getting a lobotomy at the mental institution!
@the.truth.doctor I haven't watched episode 8 yet (so perhaps you've done sth already), and I am in the midst of 7. But perhaps you can add an extra video with a general overview, things you missed, what you liked or disliked, and hope to see in S2? It is too bad I don't have the €€ for an HBO subscription to watch The Last of Us, or I would certainly turn to your channel again (I'm still epically sad Mindhunter was cancelled after 1 glorious season. That would've been great to do too).
I absolutely love watching these videos, your genuine responses to what's happening in the episodes and the way you give us your analysis- so empathetic and knowledgeable. I wish I'd had therapists like you, I probably would have felt I could truly open up. My experiences only made me feel worse. I initially went to them forced as part of revalidation programmes because of my chronic illnesses - thus couldn't even choose a psychologist with whom I vibed. It wasn't until I had a severe reactive depression to losing my complete health, home, work, income, brother, partner and 98% of my social circle all in the span of 1.5yrs, as a result of getting suddenly too ill, that I chose to go voluntarily. By then I was suicidal, but upon opening up in a last resort of clinging to life a lot of people around me either dismissed my feelings or blamed *me* for "letting it get this far". Despite my horrible experiences with therapy I eventually went to my family doctor and asked her for help. I obviously didn't have any confidants in my social circle or family....She sent me to a psychiatrist instead - in case medication was needed, but also because she thought I would vibe more with someone more educated (her words, not mine). Maybe because she knew I usually wore a "happy, all is okay" mask because my environment would chop me to pieces otherwise, and feared someone else couldn't get through. No matter the reason, that therapist really helped me. Most importantly to see my own worth again, even though I went from "Independent woman with a high position and above average income with her own home, in a steady 10yr long relationship and loads of friends" to "Dependent woman below the poverty line, with no one to turn to, running the risk of ending up on the streets despite not being able to walk and in pain 24/7". The irony is that my life only got worse the years after if you take just my health and isolation into account (I might have found trust in mental health professionals, but my trust in the rest of the medical field is at an all time low - so many serious mistakes! ). But his therapy opened me up to the fighter that I've always been inside, but that was simply beat down as a result of circumstances in my youth, teens and then. Because of him I not only found the strength to deal with a specific trauma with another specialised therapist later on, but I fought for my needs. I cut ties with certain people and took up the fight against the government as well. As a result I (it took 10 years! ) am on full benefits now. Among the lower income groups, but no longer truly poor. And I have found a small home close to a drugstore, pharmacy and supermarket so I can get there in my wheelchair. My biggest hope is that I'll be able to do some volunteering work some day, maybe even start a simple blog, to help those in a similar position (I honestly think those who have or had mental or physical health issues themselves are quite often the far better coach or therapist. I was asked as a consultant, but the damage to my body & brain turned out to be so extensive I couldn't do the training or work hours).
I will never ever speak disparaging about therapy or therapists again, knowing what I know now, but with the caveat that it is absolutely essential to find the right one for you. I've had several Kinbotts before I found my Truth Doctors ;).
Hope to see you again in the future with a show I can follow/ like. PS. That husband of yours is a keeper ;).
Love from The Netherlands.
One thing I find strange in this series is that Wednesday is portraited as someone smart, but then she goes around throwing accusations without so much as one concrete evidence
Smart is a vague term. A doctor is smart at medicine but dumb at engineering. Wednesday is clever at deduction but you are correct that isn't evidence. So Wednesday is smart in the piano and other skills but terrible at convincing others without manipulation. But if she was perfect their would be no conflict to follow her as the main character. Or people would whine that she is a Mary Sue/Superman type character.
There’s different types of intelligence. I have seen people who are called “genius” do the same thing 👀 Some might been great at intelectual intelligence but not so much for with emotional intelligence (?)
Anyway, we are humans, we make mistakes ^^
agreed she seems to use so much emotion when it comes to accusations without any of her logic
Not only that but she openly accuses someone who she thinks is a serial killer monster or the master of a serial killer monster without any back-ups or useful offensive magical powers of her own. As I keep saying,she's the dumbest smart person I've ever seen!🤦♂
@@Dryltd exactly. Morticia even tells Wednesday that she is brilliant but that she often get in her own way which I took to mean that Wednesday can be immature at times.
I just had my father's funeral today, I just cried at how you described how you see funerals, because that's how I felt during it
May he rest in peace
Cannot wait for last part... this has been such a brilliant ride..
I still love that anyone who didn't see that coming at the end, (including myself), were shocked. THAT is the sign of excellent writing!
Tyler reveal is so painful because Wednesday liked and trusted him, and then it turns out he's the monster all along and just ouch.
The Anime Kakegurui is something worth to react to 🤣🤣 i would study psychology just for this show. Love ur react-vids sooo much. Have a lovely day!
I've always very much loved people like Wednesday and Morticia - and I didn't understand why until I dated an autistic girl who identified as aromantic asexual (also, this was my 1st relationship with a girl after I came out). It was new for the both of us and we were slow and careful about it in order for us to test the boundaries with what she was careful with (what with me being a highly emotional romantic), and at the end of the day, this was the most rewarding and safe relationship with a person I had ever had. In the end we parted ways, but to this day those boundaries that I learned are now so important to me when I meet new people. And I love seeing those relationships that Wednesday has with Enid and Eugene and Uncle Fester, because it just shows that is can create a safe space for both the people in that type of relationship
I am autistic and aroace but I was wondering...was she aroace or demiromantic? The reason I ask is that I cannot imagine wanting to date anyone per se...simply because definitionally most people...even those who are dating and asexual - still expect a romantic connection.
Did you find it was more a queerplatonic relationship for your girlfriend?
Take care :)
@kpaxian Hi there! So yeah, we definitely discussed this quite often because I never wanted to project any romantic notions onto her and have her feel forced to return it because of years of masking, but she definitely identified more aroace than demiromantic. She would often be aesthetically attracted to all people, but the minute she communicates with someone she was very easily turned off. It was easy to cut off a relationship with someone who didn't click with her, because having to put in more effort than necessary was very draining, and then she needs time alone to decompress. But she was also very curious about things with regards to relationships, but just never clicked with anyone enough to feel comfortable going any further.
As for the queerplatonic relationship: in the first year, this was how I imagined she saw it. Like it was very platonic looking in public, and then some affection when we're alone - she had boundaries in place about touching her hands and neck area (made her feel a lot of discomfort). But then later, she asked for more displays of affection, even sometimes around other people, but I always still asked permission in case she felt a little overwhelmed on the day.
This very much developed from a friendship, so perhaps that shift to companionship was a little easier, and there was never any pressure of sex or pda for me to want to have a connection with her. But she still maintains that she doesn't really have any interest in being romantically involved with anyone.
I hope this answered your question!😅
Spoilers for EP 7
If you think back to the first episode, Wednesday gets a vision that someone is killing Rowan when she touches Taylor, after rewatching it there was alot of more clues that it was Tyler. Like how his father doesn't flinch when he sees the Hyde in the photograph, that Tyler stares at his mom when he's at Nevermore. Many others too. But I missed them all the first time watching it. I just knew that Xavier wasn't guilty because that would've been too obvious.
22:28 her soul left her body at that moment🤣🤣🤣
Love the analysis. One thing from the start that made me research that I felt so passionately about the Cello scene is the resemblance to Frank Miller’s Batman from 1986. Page 47. To let them know, Merkel, to let EVERYONE KNOW
8:37 I've never related more. I find that I'm very much like Wednesday, an when I first watched the show that gave me a thrill. When I see Wednesday saying, acting, doing, and being everything that I as well do, it's rlly satisfying, to see someone similar to you, like you just understand them. I love it. Anyways, I digress. I was saying that the whole "emotions equal weakness" mindset is very much how I view it, and the change Wednesday is experiencing is also occurring in my life, so yes, it's scary. It's hard, and uncomfortable. I can understand that too.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS
Love your take on this episode! In particular the "changing experiences" aspect. Had both positive and negative ones, still trying to integrate or balance them. Was curious if you would find it a helpful point to examine: What does it mean to be normal or is there such thing?
This term keeps getting thrown around in this series and I am curious to hear your professional point of view on this concept. Thank you and looking forward to the next episode :)
Her reaction to the kiss + vision scene was literally the exact same as mine XD
I was so upset, it was so cute for what 😭😭
Also I loved the part talking about different ways of showing love. It made me think that there are different ways of showing everything. I’ve noticed that the way I acknowledge people is not “normal”. When most people would wave in passing, I just give a small smile. Sometimes when someone says something that I don’t have any input on I make a small noise to acknowledge they said something. Basically when I acknowledge things, it’s easy to miss and I’ve recently worried that people don’t realize I acknowledged them and think im rude. Im going to start talking to people about it so that they are aware of how my brain works and that im not ignoring them, they just didn’t notice what I did. (I’ll also work on the small noise thing)
Something that changed me a little for the worse… during covid, early 2021, a friend and I broke up. It was sudden and I woke up to his text. Since, it’s made me pull away from my relationships and reaching out. I think this was because of my trust issues to begin with, how MUCH I trusted and entrusted information about myself and my feelings to this person over 4 years, the sudden ending of it all (kinda close to my birthday btw), and the pain I was left with. Before this, emotional honesty and closeness was a struggle. And like Wednesday, I was taught something similar to “friends are a weakness that can be exploited” (thereby emotional repression.. “don’t share too much or it could be used against you”). So this break up was quite detrimental 😅. He and I had a phone call a year later, he did ask me how I was, but acted as if nothing ever happened and when I brought it up, he didn’t remember. And he spoke for most of it. Luckily though, it did give me some closure.
Loved the video! Can’t wait for you to see the last episode.
What Xavier said about believing her when nobody else did isn't necessarily untrue since he knew about the monster. After all, it kept appearing to him in his dreams and even attacked him when it came out through his art. He was just trying to steer Wednesday away from looking for the creature at first in an attempt to keep her safe.
Love these videos. Thank you for making them.
6:28: "Former roommate couldn't handle my toxic personality." As someone with a few venomous stingers in my nature, I'd like to stand up for Wednesday in this comment. Yes, she's putting the exit on Enid ... but in the same statement she's conceding her contribution in that she's not pleasant to be around.
The way you spoke on funerals is something I never came to the realization. As funerals are never easy, taking time to reflect on the loved one and our relationship with them, whether good or bad, can give us insight on what we need to work on or carry into the future. Either way, it is an important learning lesson and can benefit who we are. Maybe there’s things that need improving, maybe it’s enlightenment on how the person lived, etc.
Very interesting to reflect on, thank you for your insight on this!
Your face at 22:42 is priceless lol
I’ve absolutely loved your videos following Wednesday, your reactions have been brilliant and I’ve found it really fascinating learning more about the psychology of the characters within the show.
Would you consider doing Ginny and Georgia in the future? There is a lot to unpack in that series and I would love to hear your thoughts on it as I think it has some really great topics to discuss and there doesn’t seem to be much content on the psychology side of the show that I can see which surprises me given how popular it is and there is so much to explore!
Idk why these videos fascinate me so much. I don’t know if it’s my obsession with Wednesday, or my interest in people things. I get enough from my therapy sessions but I love these videos so much
There was a question about changing after some kind of an event. So: someone that I really loved and cared of passed away (when I was, like, 9 yo) and so did my feelings. Now I cry, fear and laugh way less and like tragic, horror, sad movies/books way more, and I find ironic, sarcasm, etc. funny. Now I am less open and empathic. +I kinda still feel grief and pain but it's like I don't really understand or detect it.
I just want to point out one thing about Xavier and his paintings... I think people forget that his father is a psychic.... Just leaving that there.
Omgggg! Yes, thank you. That makes so much more sense.
@@the.truth.doctor He never talks about HOW he knows what he knows and I have a feeling a lot of it might stem from how his father raised him. Just from the small snippets... 1. That power is unstable. 2. His dad is the 'expert'. 3. I have to wonder if he isn't worried his dad would either upstage him or exploit him.
Love your channel! Hope you keep reacting to Fleabag, also Russian Doll and/or Killing Eve would be fantastic shows to see your reactions to!!
Can't wait for your coverage of Episode 8!
Another great reaction and educational analysis, cannot wait for the last episode from you.
P.S. I would really like to see you psychoanalyze the Firefly series if you haven't seen it yet. If not, then please add it to your list of series you may consider watching in the future. I think it will be a great fit for your channel and the way you do reactions.
I was just thinking about Firefly as well.
Two words: Film Early. The best of both worlds, watch Wednesday and film it now and then you can just edit it for release next Wednesday. I wouldn't want to wait either
He he... Told ya you'd never do two episodes justice in one video! Excellent show! loved watching your reactions.
I just wanna point out that Wednesday outright references Jekyll & Hyde, hence the name of the monster, which leads to the popular theory that Tyler and the Hyde are two separate personas with the Hyde slowly taking over.
Love you content! Some much in this episode and it just gets even crazier! Please do this for season 2!!
I respect your "bagging" on Dr Kinbott for being a not as good as she should be as a therapist. I have to wonder if her problem with professional boundaries and penchant for taxidermy might be the cause of her choosing to move to Jericho.
I cant wait to see the last episode. Ur videos always make my day better :D
Didn't knew you read comments, pog!
get your popcorn ready for the last episode!!
Ahhhh I'm so nervous
´fun fact´ or not because its a funeral:
wearing black at a funeral is from i do not know which century, but it was superstition that by wearing black, you would keep the ghosts out.
As far as I know it, it was queen Victoria who dressed in all-black for the rest of her life after her husband, prince Albert, died and that set a trend that we have to this day. Others wear white for the same effect.
Love your videos! Could you possibly cover Ginny and Georgia? I'd be really interested in the psychology between the main characters, especially in season two. Cant wait for the final episode of this series :)
I think you are a beautiful therapist, great reaction and channel :)) keep evolving
Your reactions are a good companion to the show particularly for anyone that relates to the character of Wednesday which is problly 99% of people. I feel like I'm learing as much about myself as I am about the show. Very useful. Often when I see so and so reacts to whatever it's at least 50+% click bait but I can't fault your credibility. Well done!
Thank you for this. I was looking forward to this video coming out ^^
Another great episode. The episode before this one is good too, but forgot to comment that. I look forward to you reacting to the last episode of season 1, and hearing what you have to say about Enid and Wednesday in the finale.
I'm a bit older than most of your viewers, and of the show Wednesday, but I have a younger daughter so, I feel I can comment freely, I have to say this, the show was really well done, because I think that Tim Burton took the time or knows The Addams Family history and was able to capture the look and feel of each character around Wednesday, and he perfectly defined her persona, I watched it all, I dislike binge-watching Netflix I am old school, so I normally watch one episode each week, well I tried, I did watch the last two together, very good show, and thank you, Doctor Courtney for your analysis of the show very well done.
I would love to see your reactions/commentary on Ginny and Georgia. (Spoilers and trigger warning)
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Season 2 really explores one of the characters struggle with self-harm and starting counseling and another character struggles with strong depressive episodes. It seems like a really empathetic portrayal, but would obviously love to hear your thoughts!
Yesssss please I was also thinking about that today. Never have I ever is another one that I would love for you to review!!!
Omg I literally look forward for these videos sooo so much and omg the finally is amazing !
I also love Wednesday and Tyler together! Can´t wait for the final episode 🖤🖤
He said many times and acted as if he didn't believe her, yet he appeared everywhere, as if he were Eugene who accompanied her on her adventures but from the shadows. It is the only explanation that I find for what Xavier said.
In more than one episode of acute agoraphobia I got very, acutely aware of people looking at me or in my general direction when I absolutely had to go out of my house for groceries and it was decidedly unpleasant. It freaked me out. My heart rate accelerated markedly. My breathing was hard and fast.
At that point I knew what an incipient panic attack felt like / presented as. I was well aware. It had happened before. Did my best to cope / ignore. Breathing techniques, mostly.
Your point about people who are acutely aware of others regard for them in regards to Uncle Fester as either egocentric or narcissistic (with graphics) struck me as both binary and reductive.
When I was in the very maladaptive depths of that agoraphobic state if any random stranger looked vaguely in my direction it caused an acute anxiety spike.
I think I might be conflating layman understanding of the word "egocentric" to your more clinical definition. I do not exhibit egocentric behavior.
I was so freaked out about going outside my cocoon that getting mail out of the mail box before 2 AM when everybody should be asleep freaked me out so hard that I couldn't do it for weeks. Someone could see me and that was a thing to be avoided.
The problem with agoraphobia is that eventually you have to go to the grocery store.
This has been a fantastic watch..