@@DonnieHoward-u1fnumber one that's going to get the cameras kicked out because they can't seem to behave and obey the judge's orders. They hire morons as cameraman ignorant when it comes to comprehension of rules
The judge the first time that the defense wanted to banned cameras from the courtroom, he said that he has never banned them from his courtroom before and that something to the effect that he didn’t want to start now. So I’m not surprised that he hasn’t banned the cameras as of now.
We all want justice for these kids but we want to see the right person convicted otherwise what's the point of victimizing a 5th person. So many people just want to see someone locked up and don't care about probable cause or even common sense in the matter...
Steve didn't change anything, he didn't present arguments, it was going to happen anyways, even the judge hinted at it early on. Steve Goncalves has only ever caused drama and issues, even prosecutors dont talk to him, and for good reason
Court tv, can you please ensure there is no loud typing near your camera or speakers. Also please bear in mind that even the aircon interferes with the sound quality. Thank you very much and regards to my friend Vinnie.
@@CourtTVhow about you start obeying the judge's rules. And tell your damn camera man to stop zooming in on Brian judges told you people over and over to stop it and you still don't. Think you're above the judge do you
@@charmainesanders8734you should be more concerned with the fact that if they're cameraman don't start obeying the judge's orders we will have no camera in this trial. They blatantly disobeyed the judge over and over and over. I think some contempt of court with jail time will be really good for them
Did you watch the last court appearance?. The judge has already ruled and confirmed that he will be taking charge of the cameras in court and I am sure all his rules will be obeyed. If you are talking about the times when the camera scanned in on BK, it was because his lawyers were standing near him, addressing the court. No other problems by the cameraman during the last appearance.
@@jillmolnaa2101he was most certainly not evidently you haven't been watching the hearings. This judge is told the cameraman over and over and over to stop zooming in on Brian and they continue to do it. They proved that they're disobeying the beginning of this hearing when all they were doing is focusing in on Brian.
The grand Jury cant make that decision BEFORE THE TRIAL, need just enough evidence to take it to trial. If they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, you wouldnt need a trial.
Agree! It’s when the grand goes the other way, justice is not served. Was a juror for a grand on a rape case. “She deserved what she got”, statements from my co jurors, absolutely made me sick and I lost hope for our county. The pictures were horrific
Thanks Court TV. Very pleased the Judge has taken this decision. Please don't do anything to get cameras banned. And please ask people not to clatter away on their computers next to the audio. One of the last hearing audios was a disaster.
Oh they're going to end up getting them cut because these cameraman have a hard time comprehending when the judge tells them over and over to stop zooming in on Brian. They think they can do whatever the hell they want
Defense is arguing & complaining that grand jury indictment should be based on an elevated standard of being a reasonable doubt rather than probable cause. Ridiculous argument. Denied. No surprise.
They knew they wasn’t going to win but I think the point is to be able to go and argue it to the Supreme Court in Idaho. Because Jay has done that before, I believe.
Wasn’t the defendant a law major student??? I’m guessing he might be pushing the idea this lawyer just presented. Seems to me, the defendant is coming up with his own defense, but in a way that he can manipulate 🤔 Who are the ones that think they are smarter than everybody else?
I don't know what he was prattling on about. He didn't sound very convinced by his own argument....whatever the heck it was. Kohberger really thinks that the case will just be dismissed and he'll walk free? What a lunatic.
They haven’t done themselves any justice from the beginning. This is the shadiest defense I think I’ve ever seen in my 40 years tbh. Just gross imo Probably butt hurt bc the indictment stuck. That’s all. He also seemed like he sipped some potato juice before this. Js 😂 At times even BK seemed to look at him like “dude stop talking”
Prosecutors are 100% shady and have been since the beginning of this case. They played their hand, made comments and press conferences, & immediately sealed the case with gag orders so the defense can say absolutely nothing or even plead his innocence. For the Prosecution to then send the FBI to a defense witnesses home not 1x, but 2x, yet blocked the defense from interviewing the witnesses, BF, when they claim for exculpatory evidence, shows they don’t want something out there.
I believe the poor audio quality , bad lighting and how the audience are only seeing the back of the attorneys is NOT helping. Perhaps seeing his face and viewing his body language would help make it more bearable?
Redundant to say the least, he probably hoped he could scramble around his word salad to confuse the judge, but I’m glad the judge made that decision. To me…. He seemed disrespectful towards the judge 😐
@motleymama6587 Based on this ridiculous display, he just might be. Imagine your life hangs in the balance and your attorney comes with this nonsense. I'd be furious!
Let me just say to the MEDIA don't screw up follow the rules so when this case does go to trial the cameras will be allowed. I think the judge is seeing how the media takes heed to his warnings so don't screw up. Thank you in advance but seriously don't F... UP
The media is already doing what the hell they want started the hearing what was going on zooming in on Brian when the judge was speaking keeping it focused on Brian. They are so disrespectful to the judge and his rules in his courtroom
@@QueenReina6419Not making legal arguments. Rather he is giving a history lecture on the evolution of the standard of proof in grand jury hearings. I swear it sounds like a criminology paper BK wrote and not a legal analysis written by a trained lawyer.
he's literally doing what any other attorney would do, and of course he was making a legal argument, you're showing your own lack of legal training and it's quite embarrassing @@sharongreene5766
I don't know whether he's guilty or not - I'm waiting to see the evidence presented during trial. I do think that this defense attorney is not doing his client any favors with his smug attitude. If given a choice, I would not want this man to represent me.
The defense attorney came out with the biggest smile on his face I believe on the second court hearing. I thought wow what a way to walk into a court room when lives have been taken. Very smug guy and I guess he isn't doing too well with his other court hearings he has had up until today.
I find him to be so arrogant and he isn't even saying anything. I feel like he thinks he is so tough sitting there next to his lawyer. I can't wait until he is convicted!!
He's very calculating and fair.....does not want an appeal based on HIS decisions. Although due to this being a DP case, the STATE will automatically appeal this case. It's the law....@@AlexAndra-iy5zu
Like the state said the grand jury is not saying whether a person is guilty or innocent. It's saying there is enough probable cause for there to be a trial.
And that’s the whole purpose of a grand jury is for them to decide if there is or isn’t enough probable cause to indict them on the charges in which the government has charged them with. If the grand jury was meant to be beyond a reasonable doubt we wouldn’t need to have full-blown court trials and have jurors then would we 🤷🏻♀️
@@Dream_suburbur acting like they were blackmailed into indicting the dude. They were presented w evidence w no witness testimony. They weren’t convicting him, they were agreeing yes he should stand trial where further evidence will be presented to an actual jury. U should stop talking bc clearly u don’t understand the difference bt indictment and conviction or what leads to both. Just sit down and let the adults handle it from here.
I think he could have condensed his argument and seems he is before the wrong court to be arguing. Hopefully this won't be a precursor to what the defense will do during the trial
@cacola_3373 they didn't mean that...I'm sure they meant this is an argument that should be before the supreme Court...to argue if the old law stands...not in this criminal court..
The bald attorney is so arrogant and he is just wasting our time....maybe he should be trying to give a real story about why his client is innocent instead of trying so hard to find legal loopholes to get his guilty clients charges dropped.
That is what defense attorneys do… They like to twist and turn everything away from their defendant/defendants. This clearly was a waste of everyone’s time. Judges are lawyers before they become Judges. This attorney is distracting everyone and he thought he could pull the wool over the judges eyes & ears.
Is Logsdon high? His arguments are all over the map. No wonder AT isn't arguing this. Even the expressions from BCK seem to indicate what is this dude talking about?
Brian's ANNOYED and FLUSTERED that it got Denied!👍 I can see it, even though he's not being that Dramatic with it, in the Court Room. And his Lawyer is Very Annoying!!😡
Why don't the prosecution show their cards to save everyonrstime and money. The PCA is wrought with inconsistencies. If he is guilty by all means he would deserve the punishment but just show actual evidence,,, like the same car eg, exp the time delays, the clean up. The list goes on. None of us can 'know' guilty or otherwise and if it is about money to the defence them again, why don't the prosecution bring it...I respect all options anspd don't appreciate being considered a 'moron'
@@angel-with-an-a4674 The PCA doesn't have any inconsistencies. It's a public document, you can read it for yourself. The defense seems to think a lot of the evidence in the PCA is real too because they responded to it. I don't see how anyone could find him not guilty if they bring those facts to trial.
I've read the PCA - sorry, I thought someone is innocent until 'proven" otherwise .... Corruption exists - especially if it saves face of LE , particularly with family's understandably wanting answers and someone held accountable. I'm all for what's to come if BK is proven guilty 'beyond a reasonable doubt' to give peace to the victims' families but I have two eyes open and also respect the possibility that BK may not be involved, or at least the least not solely involved. Thanks for your reply - I respect you expressing you thoughts and opinons.
Does anyone else get the feeling that the defence are just doing what is required to look busy and earn their money but know their client is toast......?
That is because he has to speak in a way this defense team will understand. They are like little kids that just don't want to accept the word No. maybe if they just whine Mommy and Daddy will give in.
Bryan looks not so confident.Its about time hes about to learn hes not the smartest man out here.Hes been continually smug and non emotional this whole time.Its the first time ive even seen him listen and look and be concerned.
This hearing is a joke. The public defender seems to think we all need a lesson in the law. Theres been a gag order on this case for a reason. The grand jury could not legally have been tainted by public assumption. The defense is grasping at straws. Enough with the delays get on with the trial already. Wasting taxpayers money on BK defense is ridiculous,
Right, too much WASTED time and resources for ONE SUCH case like this, imagine there're hundred thousands of criminal cases across the country.. HOW could a MURDER case with many EVIDENCE like this NOT go to trial, while we have already had a bunch of stupid ligitations happen in Court? Coldburger fans must be really stupid to think it's possible! ALL MURDER CASEs' OFFICAL ARRESTs NEED to go to TRIAL, period!
🧐😴😴😴🥱🥱 Now, I know what to watch to fight my insomnia! Gooooodnesssss, he is like watching my leg hairs grow 🙄 Lmfao this is going to be a loooong trial
Precedent's have been set, followed and the argument is mute. His interpretation of the USSC rulings are inaccurate. The rule has been what every Grand Jury follows, how can you now pull the rug out? You can't.
For those that want to keep believing that he didn’t do it & is being “railroaded”, read the PCA again. Keep in mind that is now nothing compared to all of the evidence that the prosecution has that we know nothing about until the trial due to the gag order.
Allll of this! People keep thinking that they know EVERYTHING there is to know. I laugh, because we only know the tip of the iceberg. Everything else is down below.
I didn't think his argument was interesting or creative, it was obscene and he knew it never stood a chance, he just wanted to hear himself talk. It seems he's also testing the waters with this judge, who imo is far too nice and patient with his bs.
…. How did the traffic court lawyer arrive in this position?????? 😮 😮 😮 😮 I wouldn’t let this guy NEAR my jaywalking ticket, like…..someone help me out here please?!
He is a moron. AT is not much better considering the great "alibi" theory she tried proposing twice to the Court. It almost seems as though they are actively trying to throw BK under the bus.
This is the most ridicules waste of time I have ever heard. How long did they allow this guy to talk ? I think this judge is very kind and patient to sit and listen to this
My god, he talks so much with no meaning of it at all. These attorney defenses are so desperate to get anything, that's a huge case that needed to go to trial. I loved how the judge shut them down and made us laugh at them. 😅😂
nobody is asking him to "change" any laws ... we are asking him to follow laws and to make the ORDER to let the Defense team to have the Transcript of Grandy jury
@joannadechenne6368 Or you could say it Pappa Rodger style: "The judge is awesome. Fight me!" Lol But yeah I'm the choir and your preaching to me, girl. Preach on!
You could have been a clean-cut professor in reputable universities and improve others' lives Bryan. You chose to destroy and be in jail. Not Judge Judge.
Are you serious? Where has this been documented? I would so like to read this please.. i am NOT being a smartelickĺ ok m?imnomomm?kmmm.k.. LMK om9m9 mn ml
Because the grand jury proceeding was for probable cause not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That is reserved for trial. The secret grand jury already saw the evidence for probable cause and made a judgement to indict so they can’t go back on it
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@@DonnieHoward-u1fnumber one that's going to get the cameras kicked out because they can't seem to behave and obey the judge's orders. They hire morons as cameraman ignorant when it comes to comprehension of rules
Thanks Steve Goncalves for having the testicular fortitude to demand the cameras. May there be justice. Many fight with you.
The judge the first time that the defense wanted to banned cameras from the courtroom, he said that he has never banned them from his courtroom before and that something to the effect that he didn’t want to start now. So I’m not surprised that he hasn’t banned the cameras as of now.
We all want justice for these kids but we want to see the right person convicted otherwise what's the point of victimizing a 5th person. So many people just want to see someone locked up and don't care about probable cause or even common sense in the matter...
At least some of these parents are willing to hold our judicial system accountable
Steve didn't change anything, he didn't present arguments, it was going to happen anyways, even the judge hinted at it early on. Steve Goncalves has only ever caused drama and issues, even prosecutors dont talk to him, and for good reason
Lol, the testicular fortitude 🤣
Justice for Kaylee,Maddie , Zana & Ethan
amen
Absolutely.
Maybe take four seconds to get the name of all of the victims right?
Amen 🙏
Her names is spelled Xana.
Thank you for sharing this case with all of us.
Thank you for watching!
Court tv, can you please ensure there is no loud typing near your camera or speakers. Also please bear in mind that even the aircon interferes with the sound quality. Thank you very much and regards to my friend Vinnie.
@@CourtTVhow about you start obeying the judge's rules. And tell your damn camera man to stop zooming in on Brian judges told you people over and over to stop it and you still don't. Think you're above the judge do you
@@charmainesanders8734you should be more concerned with the fact that if they're cameraman don't start obeying the judge's orders we will have no camera in this trial. They blatantly disobeyed the judge over and over and over. I think some contempt of court with jail time will be really good for them
Did you watch the last court appearance?. The judge has already ruled and confirmed that he will be taking charge of the cameras in court and I am sure all his rules will be obeyed. If you are talking about the times when the camera scanned in on BK, it was because his lawyers were standing near him, addressing the court. No other problems by the cameraman during the last appearance.
Motion denied! Cameras in courtroom approved! 🎉🎉🎉
yeah
I think he was addressing personal phone cameras. Not the media cameras
@@jillmolnaa2101he was most certainly not evidently you haven't been watching the hearings. This judge is told the cameraman over and over and over to stop zooming in on Brian and they continue to do it. They proved that they're disobeying the beginning of this hearing when all they were doing is focusing in on Brian.
The grand Jury cant make that decision BEFORE THE TRIAL, need just enough evidence to take it to trial. If they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, you wouldnt need a trial.
Thank you!!!
Exactly and if they do he can appeal it and get a new trial it's what Scott Peterson did and he got off death penalty
The grand jury has already happened! Months ago... that is different then the regular jury.
Agree! It’s when the grand goes the other way, justice is not served.
Was a juror for a grand on a rape case. “She deserved what she got”, statements from my co jurors, absolutely made me sick and I lost hope for our county.
The pictures were horrific
Thanks Court TV. Very pleased the Judge has taken this decision.
Please don't do anything to get cameras banned.
And please ask people not to clatter away on their computers next to the audio.
One of the last hearing audios was a disaster.
Oh they're going to end up getting them cut because these cameraman have a hard time comprehending when the judge tells them over and over to stop zooming in on Brian. They think they can do whatever the hell they want
Man, this lawyer likes to hear himself talk.
He’s a judge! They all yap on……😂✌🏻
All lawyers do.
Judge Judge!!
Defense is arguing & complaining that grand jury indictment should be based on an elevated standard of being a reasonable doubt rather than probable cause.
Ridiculous argument.
Denied.
No surprise.
Finally, someone made sense of it thank you. I missed all of this today at work and am trying to catch up.
They knew they wasn’t going to win but I think the point is to be able to go and argue it to the Supreme Court in Idaho. Because Jay has done that before, I believe.
@@americanprincess851 I agree: you're right.
This defense attorney is delusional…
Have you watched the Melley court case? I’m guessing not
Wasn’t the defendant a law major student???
I’m guessing he might be pushing the idea this lawyer just presented.
Seems to me, the defendant is coming up with his own defense, but in a way that he can manipulate 🤔
Who are the ones that think they are smarter than everybody else?
I dont think you understand what being a defense attorney means
@@PerlaOC I think your comment is extremely misinformed on how the legal process works
It's not that it's that they're going to make a large amount of money the longer they can draw this out
What is this guy rambling on about?
Defense Atty- blah, blah,blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, blah.
He’s having an argument with himself….. 🤣 BK looking over like what the heck….
Nothing…just paid by the hour and a chance to argue his distaste for his own profession..he has political ambitions..lol
Worst defense attorney ever!
I don't know what he was prattling on about. He didn't sound very convinced by his own argument....whatever the heck it was. Kohberger really thinks that the case will just be dismissed and he'll walk free? What a lunatic.
This guy is putting me to sleep - maybe that’s his tactic for the jury
This guy is awful.. Someone needs to tell him he isn’t in New York.. Seriously…
He thinks he’s in California lols.
I agree. He mumbles so much. He is terrible!
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. This doesn’t have anything to do with dismissing the Grand Jury Indictment.
This defense attorney is lost and confused!
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The Defence didn't do themselves any favors here. Attorney came across as quite condescending imo...flipping his folder open for dramatics 😂
They haven’t done themselves any justice from the beginning. This is the shadiest defense I think I’ve ever seen in my 40 years tbh. Just gross imo
Probably butt hurt bc the indictment stuck. That’s all. He also seemed like he sipped some potato juice before this. Js 😂
At times even BK seemed to look at him like “dude stop talking”
I was going to say the same thing. He is a drama king
If it were my client, I would have felt the same way. It was dead wrong what they got away with, and now they seal it
Prosecutors are 100% shady and have been since the beginning of this case. They played their hand, made comments and press conferences, & immediately sealed the case with gag orders so the defense can say absolutely nothing or even plead his innocence. For the Prosecution to then send the FBI to a defense witnesses home not 1x, but 2x, yet blocked the defense from interviewing the witnesses, BF, when they claim for exculpatory evidence, shows they don’t want something out there.
Fgs, he certainly likes the sound of his own voice!!
This was a complete waste of time. If this any foreshadowing of trial my goodness help us. It will last forever!!
Right, this is real life, not a movie. It moves agonizingly slow.
Don't get discouraged. Once it starts, it won't be like this (I hope) I'm expecting a similar trial to the Chandler Halderson's case
It's kinda sad that you're looking to this for your entertainment.
@TalkingThrones it is called watching justice being executed, no one else but you used that term
Not as long as Sarah Boone's 😂😂
OMG , this lawyer has BORED ME TO TEARS!!!
Me too! I can’t watch anymore. Please let me know if a trial date has been set. This guy is a nut job
I believe the poor audio quality , bad lighting and how the audience are only seeing the back of the attorneys is NOT helping. Perhaps seeing his face and viewing his body language would help make it more bearable?
Redundant to say the least, he probably hoped he could scramble around his word salad to confuse the judge, but I’m glad the judge made that decision.
To me…. He seemed disrespectful towards the judge 😐
Explains why there weren't that many tweets from journalists during Logsdon's argument.
@@catherinekeller7938 One lawyer did tweeted about what was said during his argument. But she’s a law nerd
Oh lord this defense attorney yammering on is as ridiculous as his argument.
Would you still feel the same if he was representing your life😢
Will he ever shut up
@@Heseesyourepresenting a 4x murderer
@@debbierichert598 allegedly! He's innocent till he is convicted
Well this is the worst argument for dismissal I have ever heard. That bald lawyer needs to be fired.
😂
I agree, he’s a bobble head.
He comes across like he's acting. Like a series regular on Arrested Development. Berry Zuckerorn or Bob Loblaw vibes. I can't take him seriously.
Defence grasping are straws
@@sandrah2758😂😂😂😂
The way Bryan is looking at his lawyer. At this point he might as well defend himself.
I’m sure he thinks he’s smarter than them.
@motleymama6587 Based on this ridiculous display, he just might be. Imagine your life hangs in the balance and your attorney comes with this nonsense. I'd be furious!
Shhhhh don't give him ideas 😅
I wasn’t gunna say nothing 😂👀
Let me just say to the MEDIA don't screw up follow the rules so when this case does go to trial the cameras will be allowed. I think the judge is seeing how the media takes heed to his warnings so don't screw up. Thank you in advance but seriously don't F... UP
The media is already doing what the hell they want started the hearing what was going on zooming in on Brian when the judge was speaking keeping it focused on Brian. They are so disrespectful to the judge and his rules in his courtroom
Is this defense attorney for real ..he isn't even making any sense, to me anyway.
because you dont have legal training
The way Bryan looks at him, like seriously mf.
Me thinking the same😂😂 he wants him to stop talking so bad
Bryan’s lawyers are horrible.
How so??
@@QueenReina6419Not making legal arguments. Rather he is giving a history lecture on the evolution of the standard of proof in grand jury hearings. I swear it sounds like a criminology paper BK wrote and not a legal analysis written by a trained lawyer.
he's literally doing what any other attorney would do, and of course he was making a legal argument, you're showing your own lack of legal training and it's quite embarrassing @@sharongreene5766
I've been saying this, and the blonde attorney does absolutely nothing. I've never heard her say anything other than one liners.
@@Pllm30Go view the earlier hearings.
It's so clear that they're just grasping at straws how many more emotions are they going to try and get hearings for?
They're called motions.
@@Smaugette that was obviously autocorrect lol get a life
@@Smaugette
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blame the judge instead, he decides hearings or would do a written ruling
@@Smaugette I was seeing if anyone was paying attention and u were
I don't know whether he's guilty or not - I'm waiting to see the evidence presented during trial. I do think that this defense attorney is not doing his client any favors with his smug attitude. If given a choice, I would not want this man to represent me.
The defense attorney came out with the biggest smile on his face I believe on the second court hearing. I thought wow what a way to walk into a court room when lives have been taken. Very smug guy and I guess he isn't doing too well with his other court hearings he has had up until today.
Somebody wants their 1 hour of fame. I'm about over this guy's chit chat
Go into an Idaho court and bash Idaho law. Lol
Thanks for the argument.... it was very CREATIVE😂😂
It was a pile of bs. I think BK wrote it himself as there is no legal reasoning or analysis in this lengthy historical document.
@@sharongreene5766he is joking- quoted JJ.
I've been to law school too... I would NEVER make this ridiculous, foolish or unreasonable argument ....
Wow, Logsdon is 😴. His argument is ridiculous. 😅
He’s talking like random citizen not a lawyer
“I don’t know what I’m doing with me career”…..yeah, we don’t either but keep going you’re doin great sweetie. ….(someone needs to tell him!) 😮
I find him to be so arrogant and he isn't even saying anything. I feel like he thinks he is so tough sitting there next to his lawyer. I can't wait until he is convicted!!
Is that defense lawyer high ?!
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No more high than the people who do not listen , just watch you may learn something
😂😂 ya we learned the defense is crazy as their client.
I'm glad you guys are not on the Jury
@@deborahbeltz718 I learned more than I wanted to know about his pretend alibi.
Dumb bald guy is boring.
This judge is good 🙌🏼
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He's very calculating and fair.....does not want an appeal based on HIS decisions. Although due to this being a DP case, the STATE will automatically
appeal this case. It's the law....@@AlexAndra-iy5zu
All i heard was “blah, blah, blah”.
What a waste of time and money.
Defense attorney’s presentation is defeatist and sing song 🎶 Flippant.
Like the state said the grand jury is not saying whether a person is guilty or innocent. It's saying there is enough probable cause for there to be a trial.
Yeah, after being presented with lies & hearsays, with ZERO evidence.
And that’s the whole purpose of a grand jury is for them to decide if there is or isn’t enough probable cause to indict them on the charges in which the government has charged them with. If the grand jury was meant to be beyond a reasonable doubt we wouldn’t need to have full-blown court trials and have jurors then would we 🤷🏻♀️
@@Dream_suburb We don’t know the evidence the state has yet.
@@Dream_suburbur acting like they were blackmailed into indicting the dude. They were presented w evidence w no witness testimony. They weren’t convicting him, they were agreeing yes he should stand trial where further evidence will be presented to an actual jury. U should stop talking bc clearly u don’t understand the difference bt indictment and conviction or what leads to both. Just sit down and let the adults handle it from here.
What a complete pompas ass you are dude. Clueless
I think he could have condensed his argument and seems he is before the wrong court to be arguing. Hopefully this won't be a precursor to what the defense will do during the trial
Why, he is just following the law.
You think he should be able to pick his court of choice?
@cacola_3373 they didn't mean that...I'm sure they meant this is an argument that should be before the supreme Court...to argue if the old law stands...not in this criminal court..
@@KelLAkiwi you are correct.
@@KelLAkiwi - Abortion is not in the constitution, yet it’s law just because. Well this is just because.
That was weird. But I’m glad cameras will be allowed.
The bald attorney is so arrogant and he is just wasting our time....maybe he should be trying to give a real story about why his client is innocent instead of trying so hard to find legal loopholes to get his guilty clients charges dropped.
dont comment if you dont understand how trials or the justice system operates
I can say whatever I want to say.@@CrakeWasRight
What on earth is the lawyer drawling on about?. I’m confused.
That is what defense attorneys do… They like to twist and turn everything away from their defendant/defendants. This clearly was a waste of everyone’s time. Judges are lawyers before they become Judges. This attorney is distracting everyone and he thought he could pull the wool over the judges eyes & ears.
read legal analysis then smh
Bryan Christopher Kohberger wasn't extradited for no Reason! The evidence seems to speak volumes
Is Logsdon high? His arguments are all over the map. No wonder AT isn't arguing this. Even the expressions from BCK seem to indicate what is this dude talking about?
Brian's ANNOYED and FLUSTERED that it got Denied!👍 I can see it, even though he's not being that Dramatic with it, in the Court Room. And his Lawyer is Very Annoying!!😡
??? 😂 If you saw that, you're delusional.
You're a bit annoying yourself !!
Is this lawyer straight up trying to teach the judge how to do his job, or am I missing something?
Kohberger is behind this one....I guarantee it.
surprised the judge let him talk as long as he did with all that bs he said … he’s literally still talking as i watch / comment
yes, you're missing something, an education in law and trial experience
yes, you're missing something
I’m so curious what’s going through Brian’s mind through all this. I can’t wait til we have answers.
Maybe it's finally dawning on him that his defence team aren't very good lawyers.
Defendant looked proud of his lawyer, I don’t know why I get the sense that Bryan himself is orchestrating this entanglement 😑
DRAG the trial out as much as you can; so you can keep getting paid...
Clowns.....talk gunge ....
Why don't the prosecution show their cards to save everyonrstime and money. The PCA is wrought with inconsistencies. If he is guilty by all means he would deserve the punishment but just show actual evidence,,, like the same car eg, exp the time delays, the clean up. The list goes on. None of us can 'know' guilty or otherwise and if it is about money to the defence them again, why don't the prosecution bring it...I respect all options anspd don't appreciate being considered a 'moron'
@@angel-with-an-a4674 The PCA doesn't have any inconsistencies. It's a public document, you can read it for yourself. The defense seems to think a lot of the evidence in the PCA is real too because they responded to it. I don't see how anyone could find him not guilty if they bring those facts to trial.
@@abebuckingham8198 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
THAT PCA WAS MADE UP!!!! NOTHING IN IT IS TRUE!!!!
THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN PRISON & LET THIS GUY OUT OF IT!!!!
I've read the PCA - sorry, I thought someone is innocent until 'proven" otherwise .... Corruption exists - especially if it saves face of LE , particularly with family's understandably wanting answers and someone held accountable. I'm all for what's to come if BK is proven guilty 'beyond a reasonable doubt' to give peace to the victims' families but I have two eyes open and also respect the possibility that BK may not be involved, or at least the least not solely involved. Thanks for your reply - I respect you expressing you thoughts and opinons.
Does anyone else get the feeling that the defence are just doing what is required to look busy and earn their money but know their client is toast......?
Honestly I get the impression it's the prosecution who don't have an airtight case but we shall see.
@@nr3858exactly
Yes, definitely. The defense likely knows they have a guilty client.
@mariec4275 What? They know he did not do it. They will save the best for last
The defense is paid by the State.
BK’s expression at the end, said it all. He can’t stand defeat. He’s not in charge and he can’t handle it. He will never be in charge again.
You're delusional if you saw that. He smiled at Ann Taylor at the end.
This defense lawyer isn’t doing himself any favors.
Hes a bad clown
I’m a kindergarten teacher, and listening to the judge speak, reminds me of dealing with a fresh group of 2 year-olds.
I'm so glad you said that. Something is off. First, of - all, his name is Judge, too ??
Yes, the judge acts like a 2 yr old
@@Chuck44442His last name is truly Judge, yes.
Aren’t kindergartners 5-6 year olds? 😅
That is because he has to speak in a way this defense team will understand. They are like little kids that just don't want to accept the word No. maybe if they just whine Mommy and Daddy will give in.
Omg this guy is losing me now, move on
This judge is a well suited judge, very fair and knowledgeable..perfect fit for this case..
So many delay tactics 🙄 😒 😑
It's all they've got.
Bryan looks not so confident.Its about time hes about to learn hes not the smartest man out here.Hes been continually smug and non emotional this whole time.Its the first time ive even seen him listen and look and be concerned.
I like Judge john Jude he tell you as it is go out and learn some more Idaho court history. Well said Judge John.
What kind of ‘word salad’ is he spewing? We will never get the time back he took to babble..
This hearing is a joke. The public defender seems to think we all need a lesson in the law. Theres been a gag order on this case for a reason. The grand jury could not legally have been tainted by public assumption. The defense is grasping at straws. Enough with the delays get on with the trial already. Wasting taxpayers money on BK defense is ridiculous,
Thank you for this.
I’m just curious on why they thought it would be dismissed?
Right, too much WASTED time and resources for ONE SUCH case like this, imagine there're hundred thousands of criminal cases across the country.. HOW could a MURDER case with many EVIDENCE like this NOT go to trial, while we have already had a bunch of stupid ligitations happen in Court? Coldburger fans must be really stupid to think it's possible! ALL MURDER CASEs' OFFICAL ARRESTs NEED to go to TRIAL, period!
@@LEARNING-67what evidence do they have? Oh yeah none.
@@KATmando07, LOL, we just don’t know everything they have.
Because there is no real evidence do your research
@@tracibarnhill4875 let’s hear your research ma’am lmao
This defense attorney is a joke, grasping at straws.
Is this monster serious??!!
Truly not his choice. He’s on trial for death, his lawyers have an obligation to pull every stop possible.
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Now, I know what to watch to fight my insomnia! Gooooodnesssss, he is like watching my leg hairs grow 🙄
Lmfao this is going to be a loooong trial
The judge had an uhhh every other word. Thank you for sharing this! So grateful for cameras in the courtroom
We want justice for the victims here...end of story.
Precedent's have been set, followed and the argument is mute. His interpretation of the USSC rulings are inaccurate. The rule has been what every Grand Jury follows, how can you now pull the rug out?
You can't.
What an absolute utter waste of the court and everyone’s time. 🤦🏻♀️ keep it up defense, keep annoying the court 😂 see how that goes for ya!
you obviously have no idea how the justice system works do you?
I sure hope the whole microphone situation is much much better when the trial starts. I can hardly make out what he’s saying. Smh
What is wrong with you court tv? Why focus cameras on him when you were told not to
My thoughts exactly...,
They are not showing a front view of his face, only his side view of nothingness.
@@dianealarcon8304doesn’t change the fact that they’re still zooming in
Agree. It's bad practice and extremely boring to look at!
Exactly! They were instructed not to zoom in
I will not be able to watch if his lawyer is talking
Omg 😩😩😩😩😩😩
For those that want to keep believing that he didn’t do it & is being “railroaded”, read the PCA again. Keep in mind that is now nothing compared to all of the evidence that the prosecution has that we know nothing about until the trial due to the gag order.
I don't have time to read it... what's the most compelling evidence listed in the PCA? Do they have DNA and fingerprints?
Allll of this! People keep thinking that they know EVERYTHING there is to know. I laugh, because we only know the tip of the iceberg. Everything else is down below.
READ ABOUT THE ONE WHO WROTE IT!!!!
And after that - watch all his body cams!!!
And you`ll see who did this crime!!!
It certainly wasn`t BK guy!!!
I would love to watch the body cams. I want to give a big shoutout to those who blurred it out. Is this America?😡
@@thetruepatriot7733what’s PCA I want read it!
Spoke for 42 minutes just to hear… nope!
Thank goodness!!!!! There is still humanity in the world.!!!
Lol! Is this defense attorney taking lessons from the defendant? Judge 1 / defense 0.
I didn't think his argument was interesting or creative, it was obscene and he knew it never stood a chance, he just wanted to hear himself talk. It seems he's also testing the waters with this judge, who imo is far too nice and patient with his bs.
That is a judge's job, listen and decide?
Just appeasing their client and his ego.
This Attorney has to be the most boring a rambling dude ever move on
This made my day❤️
…. How did the traffic court lawyer arrive in this position?????? 😮 😮 😮 😮 I wouldn’t let this guy NEAR my jaywalking ticket, like…..someone help me out here please?!
He is a moron. AT is not much better considering the great "alibi" theory she tried proposing twice to the Court. It almost seems as though they are actively trying to throw BK under the bus.
What's your concern?
How much did this rambling cost us tax payers? What is this world coming to?
It's more like Murican own circus show! 😏
Did he just say read in the tea leaves 👀
Whole lot of hot air!
This is the most ridicules waste of time I have ever heard. How long did they allow this guy to talk ? I think this judge is very kind and patient to sit and listen to this
He`s just corrupted as all of them are.
Judge Judge is fair and to the point!!!
??? 😂 NOT
The pages may be yellowed but the law remains the same! They are digging.
he is done
My god, he talks so much with no meaning of it at all. These attorney defenses are so desperate to get anything, that's a huge case that needed to go to trial. I loved how the judge shut them down and made us laugh at them. 😅😂
All we want is for Justice to come out as fast as possible and these defenses are just a mess.
Judge didnt shut them down, he listened carefully, engaged, and even agreed at points. were you even paying attention?
a rush to judgement isn't justice, get your facts straight@@Stefania98s
nobody is asking him to "change" any laws ... we are asking him to follow laws and to make the ORDER to let the Defense team to have the Transcript of Grandy jury
It must be terrify to be in a room with a serial killer
Serial killer??😂😂😂
You need a dictionary bc you obviously don’t know what a serial killer is.
I'm absolutely SHOCKED he got denied!!!😂😂😅
This judge is awesome. If you want to fight me on this -prove it.
Not aweso1e at all.
'Spell check' is your friend@@georgewashington3555
@joannadechenne6368 Or you could say it Pappa Rodger style: "The judge is awesome. Fight me!" Lol But yeah I'm the choir and your preaching to me, girl. Preach on!
What is this guy saying?
You could have been a clean-cut professor in reputable universities and improve others' lives Bryan. You chose to destroy and be in jail. Not Judge Judge.
You write like he is on yt and reading 😂😂
Defense atty rambles on & on.... ‼ lecturing the judge ‼
Incompetent defense
Six Grand Jurors wanted more information to indict Bryan and the Judge ordered that to not go in record... 🤔🙄
They only needed reasonable doubt, not all the evidence.
@@booswanger3801boom.
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Are you serious? Where has this been documented? I would so like to read this please.. i am NOT being a smartelickĺ ok m?imnomomm?kmmm.k.. LMK om9m9 mn ml
Let me try again. I am not being a smart aleck. I just want to read this.. That is saying something if SIX asked this. TY
The lady in the black smiling a lil when judge gives his ruling!!!!! 😂😂
He sounds like Charlie Brown's Teacher.🙄
He should go for the "Subject Jurisdiction" aka Durrell Brooks Jr.'s Attorneys Infamous Defense...
It's subject matter jurisdiction. This , too, will not work
Is that (lawful law)? 🤣🤣🤣 he was something else😅
I was thinking the exact same thing
6 jury members denied seeing more answer & evidence.... hmmm I wonder why 🤔 Absolutely disgusting
Disgusting and scary.
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Because the grand jury proceeding was for probable cause not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That is reserved for trial. The secret grand jury already saw the evidence for probable cause and made a judgement to indict so they can’t go back on it
Thats not what happened or how it works
@@cacola_3373yes it did! I was there….
Oh for goodness sakes…