I'm sorry you had trouble unscrewing the bit. Probably some stupid countryman of mine overtightened it just to screw someone up using it. 😂 Still a very nice review of the VHS-2. Each rifle has its own ergonomics and good results can only be achieved with practice. It's a pity that you are not able to try the original VHS-2 in full auto mode. It's a blast! Greetings from a Croatian soldier
I’m certain the flash hider wouldn’t have ever come loose on its own, so I guess that’s a plus lol I’d love to try a full auto one, I bet it’s amazing!
I bought the X95 last year, I intended on swapping it over for my backwards lefty ass. Should have done better research on parts availability and cost. This is a legitimate ambidextrous weapon with minimal fuss. The Lefty struggle is real LOL
@@TheGunFellas Yeah, *she was a little bitch too, lol. I started wearing those NFL-type arms sleeves when I shoot my VHS-2 in the indoor range. Otherwise, my arms look like a clumsy drug addict's, since the ejected casings bounce off of the side wall, regardless of wear I stand. I got the idea, in part, from seeing Myles on Tactical Hyve. I imaging that's why he's wearing them.
If you run the cheaper surefire momentary tape switch, you can run it to the other side of the hand guard through the m-lok slots and under the barrel. Then attach it to the opposite side of the hand guard with the little plastic Magpul mount for the switch. This keeps the cord protected inside the hand guard and out of the way of the charging handle. Best setup I have been able to figure out and I have tried three different switches and locations. Hope this helps someone.
@@TheGunFellas The cable is stiff enough that it seems to push itself against the inner surface of the handguard and away from the barrel. It is obviously in the with the barrel, but mine does not contact the barrel. It figured I could always tape it to the inner walls of the handguard with that heat reflecting foil tape if it ever became a problem. If it will keep the plastic on my snowmobile from melting 2 inches from the hot exhaust all day, it should protect that cable.
Good review. Thanks. WAY low key, dude! You ok?? ;)) Trigger: It’s a combat trigger. It’s fine. My Active Duty M16, not great either. So?? “Train to the gun”. Good point about ‘shooting fast’. Harder with bull pups. So?? Extendable stock: according to the manufacturer… it’s so you can move your face further back from the ejection port, if/when switching shoulders a lot. Good point about also for backing off from your Nods. Mag changes: Again… ‘train to the gun’. Height-over-bore: stop bitching people! “It’s a G36 bull pup”. Excellent observation. Good job. Thanks again.
Interesting, since I’m a lefty, when I want to let a righty shoot it, I typically extend the stock for them so their faces clear the ejection port, didn’t know that was the intent behind the design there. As for the trigger, I think we’re all so spoiled with generic AR triggers being, all things considered, in the top 5% of triggers in general, so different things can be offputting to people. I don’t mind it, but slow firing it to zero or something was a bit agonizing, really my only gripe with it is how LONG the trigger pull is… again, only when zeroing it did I find it bothersome. Thanks for the feedback!
I felt the same way about the safety. I had no problem getting to it. And after hearing multiple reviewers say the same thing, about it being hard to reach or they have to break their grip lead me to believe they’re all cookie cutter reviewers. They were copying and pasting what the previous guy said…. Thanks man. Hearing this review makes me feel like you actually spent time with the VHS-2
Appreciate the kind words my friend! Definitely spent time with it, I have baby size XXS hands and I can reach it no problem, it’s just different than an AR. Definitely spent a lot of time with this gun the past year, doesn’t have the round count it deserves, but this is one of those guns I just sit there and think about shooting. Very competent gun and it’s refreshing to shoot something different
I used the Magpul Cantilever Rail/Light Mount with a slight modification and an Inforce WMLx White Gen 2 800 Lumen light and it worked our pretty well. I also have a Primary Arms 3x micro prism paired with an 45 degree mount with a Holosun 507K. I'm getting 2 MOA or less at 100 yards using American Eagle 55 grain.
Thanks for making the video. I feel the same way. I haven't made a review video yet. I'm still taking my time to come up with my conclusion. I'm thinking of manufacturing a few new parts for this. I Love this gun. I Love the aesthetics and similarities to G36, and I no longer want a HK 433 or CZ Bren, Spear, or RobArm or G36k since this is a bullpup version, and such a well executed version. But, I would like a longer and shielded handguard. Not sure if I would want it polymer with mlok, or if I want an aluminum one with 1913 pic designed with Surefire Scout or Cloud in mind. Better trigger, or at least one with an preload adjustment. I think an adjustment screw could take up the slack. Needs an AK47 style safety, or one that can be manipulated easier with thumb or trigger finger. And this needs a mag release up there too. So I'm thinking of making a shorter 300blk barrel eventually too. A 30cal that is quiet and bullpup sized would be a perfect truck gun. Though, your right, every ammo I feed this runs perfect so far. Wolf. Tula. PMC 55gr. Frontier/Lake city/Hornady 68gr & 77gr. This gun runs great. Could a few issues get resolved and this turn into a mainstream alternative to AR15?
For better or worse, I don’t think we’ll ever see these become super mainstream. At best I think they’ll be at the X95’s level of commonality. I do hope to see an aftermarket for these though, it really is a great rifle
I have one and it’s an excellent rifle and easy to learn. The trigger is about the best bullpup trigger on the market as I have shot most of them to date. Trying to compare the trigger to that of an AR doesn’t work as it works in a different manner. It’s like comparing a striker fired pistol to a double action only, that’s the comparison I use when asked about it.
It’s a perfectly serviceable trigger, we’re all spoiled because ARs and even AKs generally have well-above average triggers compared to rifles in general
A little odd for sure, typically that’s squarely an administrative unloading/showing clear issue, it’s not quite like an AR where you can have bolt override malfunctions or something weird that’ll prevent you from running the action though. I can’t really think of a circumstance on this particular gun where you’d absolutely NEED to be able to manually lock the bolt to the rear to perform an emergency task on the gun. Not a huge deal to me!
Would you snag this or a x95? I have a nice AR and a flow through can. Was leaning towards the VHS but the Tavor seems to have more aftermarket support,
@TGF this or the x95 trigger reset is shorter on x95 but its less accurate and suppresses worse. How does the height over bore affect change in zero would you take this or the x95?
@@petemotz48 taller mechanical offset affects the holds at closer ranges for sure, if it’s a gun you’re serious about using, you will learn to overcome it within a couple of hundred rounds. You’re just going to have to hold an inch or so higher
Which suppressor you buy is totally subjective, everyone always says whichever suppressor they have is the best one, so be weary, do some research, and pick which one you think best suits your needs. I prioritize low back pressure over sound suppression, so I use OSS/Huxwrx mostly
now if only we could solve the trigger for these bullpups, and we'd have a functional rifle that would not just be successful within niche groups, but go mainstream.
I agree- I’d say it’s roughly on par with the average military bullpup, but I think there’s plenty of room to 🤌🤌🤏 I’d appreciate an aftermarket trigger for this thing a lot
@@TheGunFellas i agree but even a great trigger won't eliminate the creep and long pull length because that's coming from the linkage between the "trigger" and the actual trigger assembly under the action further back on the rifle. from a manufacturing standpoint i'm unsure of how we would eliminate that given the action isn't by where we would want to place a trigger on a bullpup. one thought i had was what about the electrically assisted firing systems used on airsoft weapons, but i duno if that's a viable solution. still i eagerly await when bullpups solve that, will 100% jump on board with them then.
I wouldn’t call it creep so much as “homogeneous mush” but I agree, I’d like to see it hemmed in a little. Not sure of the consequences thereof, because I’m barely literate, but it sounds good in my head
The VHS 2 trigger’s not that bad. The best of all bull-pups, by far. Carried an M16 for years. Its Milspec trigger was crap. It’s a combat rifle. Not a comp. gun. Go to the wall, & work from there. “Train to the gun”.
A bit more involved than an AR, but then again all LAM and light switches are designed around the AR. It IS possible on this gun, though, and it really isn’t as bad as you’d think
@@bmrz38 the problem is that we’re all used to AR triggers, which are categorically probably the best triggers of any gun platform as a whole, so we’re all just used to having comparatively amazing triggers be the norm. Today’s milspec AR trigger was yesterday’s turbo match grade unicorn trigger in any other gun.
WHAT IS WITH THE " OPERATORS" WHO MUST USE A SUPPRESSOR WITH SUPERSONIC AMMO? IT TOTALLY NEGATES THE PURPOSE OF THE SUPPRESSOR, IT IS NOT HEARING SAFE. POINTLESS
@@bmrz38 just my perspective on a gun, filmed on a phone in my back yard, not trying to win any production awards, just trying to share information that isn’t canned from some company or whatever.
I'm sorry you had trouble unscrewing the bit. Probably some stupid countryman of mine overtightened it just to screw someone up using it. 😂 Still a very nice review of the VHS-2. Each rifle has its own ergonomics and good results can only be achieved with practice. It's a pity that you are not able to try the original VHS-2 in full auto mode. It's a blast! Greetings from a Croatian soldier
I’m certain the flash hider wouldn’t have ever come loose on its own, so I guess that’s a plus lol
I’d love to try a full auto one, I bet it’s amazing!
I think everyone of those VHS has a super tight flash hider... For some reason.
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They did a good job making this thing truly ambi. As a lefty, it's the only bullpup I don't absolutely rage at.
Agreed. We’re truly an oppressed class
Tbh I would rather have a trigger with a longer pull than an accidental discharge with a trigger too sensitive.
Exactly. It’s a combat weapon.
Looking forward to more content man, good stuff here. The Halo Battle Rifle we always wanted
Much appreciated!
I bought the X95 last year, I intended on swapping it over for my backwards lefty ass. Should have done better research on parts availability and cost. This is a legitimate ambidextrous weapon with minimal fuss. The Lefty struggle is real LOL
We truly are treated as second class gun owners 😢
Try having been a lefty M60 gunner.
I had to balaclava, and neck gator-up. Looking like a "tactical Kenny," from South Park...
@@donalgraeme SAWs sure did eat up my right arm
@@TheGunFellas Yeah, *she was a little bitch too, lol.
I started wearing those NFL-type arms sleeves when I shoot my VHS-2 in the indoor range. Otherwise, my arms look like a clumsy drug addict's, since the ejected casings bounce off of the side wall, regardless of wear I stand.
I got the idea, in part, from seeing Myles on Tactical Hyve. I imaging that's why he's wearing them.
I love mine I bought 10 extra mags 20 rounders for the prone and I hope I get more time behind it
20 rd mags are best, I think.
Agreed.
If you run the cheaper surefire momentary tape switch, you can run it to the other side of the hand guard through the m-lok slots and under the barrel. Then attach it to the opposite side of the hand guard with the little plastic Magpul mount for the switch. This keeps the cord protected inside the hand guard and out of the way of the charging handle. Best setup I have been able to figure out and I have tried three different switches and locations. Hope this helps someone.
I actually like that idea, my only concern would be the cable getting a little uhhhh toasty in there. I’d be willing to try for science
@@TheGunFellas The cable is stiff enough that it seems to push itself against the inner surface of the handguard and away from the barrel. It is obviously in the with the barrel, but mine does not contact the barrel. It figured I could always tape it to the inner walls of the handguard with that heat reflecting foil tape if it ever became a problem. If it will keep the plastic on my snowmobile from melting 2 inches from the hot exhaust all day, it should protect that cable.
Good review. Thanks.
WAY low key, dude! You ok?? ;))
Trigger: It’s a combat trigger. It’s
fine. My Active Duty M16, not great either. So?? “Train to the gun”.
Good point about ‘shooting fast’.
Harder with bull pups. So??
Extendable stock: according to the manufacturer… it’s so you can move your face further back from the ejection port, if/when switching shoulders a lot.
Good point about also for backing off from your Nods.
Mag changes: Again… ‘train to the gun’.
Height-over-bore: stop bitching people!
“It’s a G36 bull pup”.
Excellent observation.
Good job.
Thanks again.
Interesting, since I’m a lefty, when I want to let a righty shoot it, I typically extend the stock for them so their faces clear the ejection port, didn’t know that was the intent behind the design there. As for the trigger, I think we’re all so spoiled with generic AR triggers being, all things considered, in the top 5% of triggers in general, so different things can be offputting to people. I don’t mind it, but slow firing it to zero or something was a bit agonizing, really my only gripe with it is how LONG the trigger pull is… again, only when zeroing it did I find it bothersome. Thanks for the feedback!
I felt the same way about the safety. I had no problem getting to it. And after hearing multiple reviewers say the same thing, about it being hard to reach or they have to break their grip lead me to believe they’re all cookie cutter reviewers. They were copying and pasting what the previous guy said…. Thanks man. Hearing this review makes me feel like you actually spent time with the VHS-2
Appreciate the kind words my friend! Definitely spent time with it, I have baby size XXS hands and I can reach it no problem, it’s just different than an AR. Definitely spent a lot of time with this gun the past year, doesn’t have the round count it deserves, but this is one of those guns I just sit there and think about shooting. Very competent gun and it’s refreshing to shoot something different
I can reach it
I just think it feels weird like in the same way that HK Safeties are weird
These are the reviews we are looking for! You nailed everything bro continue reviews and the right people will appreciate it
@@alexsimolari481 I appreciate it fam ❤️ I got a long list of guns I could do, I’ll churn em out as I can!
@@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce I agree, the whole gun feels HK-ish. Not bad, different though
I used the Magpul Cantilever Rail/Light Mount with a slight modification and an Inforce WMLx White Gen 2 800 Lumen light and it worked our pretty well. I also have a Primary Arms 3x micro prism paired with an 45 degree mount with a Holosun 507K. I'm getting 2 MOA or less at 100 yards using American Eagle 55 grain.
And folks, we could not love to see it any more than we do right now
Thanks for making the video. I feel the same way. I haven't made a review video yet. I'm still taking my time to come up with my conclusion. I'm thinking of manufacturing a few new parts for this. I Love this gun. I Love the aesthetics and similarities to G36, and I no longer want a HK 433 or CZ Bren, Spear, or RobArm or G36k since this is a bullpup version, and such a well executed version.
But, I would like a longer and shielded handguard. Not sure if I would want it polymer with mlok, or if I want an aluminum one with 1913 pic designed with Surefire Scout or Cloud in mind.
Better trigger, or at least one with an preload adjustment. I think an adjustment screw could take up the slack.
Needs an AK47 style safety, or one that can be manipulated easier with thumb or trigger finger. And this needs a mag release up there too. So
I'm thinking of making a shorter 300blk barrel eventually too. A 30cal that is quiet and bullpup sized would be a perfect truck gun. Though, your right, every ammo I feed this runs perfect so far. Wolf. Tula. PMC 55gr. Frontier/Lake city/Hornady 68gr & 77gr.
This gun runs great.
Could a few issues get resolved and this turn into a mainstream alternative to AR15?
For better or worse, I don’t think we’ll ever see these become super mainstream. At best I think they’ll be at the X95’s level of commonality. I do hope to see an aftermarket for these though, it really is a great rifle
I have one and it’s an excellent rifle and easy to learn. The trigger is about the best bullpup trigger on the market as I have shot most of them to date. Trying to compare the trigger to that of an AR doesn’t work as it works in a different manner. It’s like comparing a striker fired pistol to a double action only, that’s the comparison I use when asked about it.
It’s a perfectly serviceable trigger, we’re all spoiled because ARs and even AKs generally have well-above average triggers compared to rifles in general
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not sure if i like reaching inside the mag well to hit the bolt lock - any thoughts ?
A little odd for sure, typically that’s squarely an administrative unloading/showing clear issue, it’s not quite like an AR where you can have bolt override malfunctions or something weird that’ll prevent you from running the action though. I can’t really think of a circumstance on this particular gun where you’d absolutely NEED to be able to manually lock the bolt to the rear to perform an emergency task on the gun. Not a huge deal to me!
I hate bulls. Wanted to hate this one too, until I got some rounds through it. Surprisingly accurate and easy to use after a bit of time. Great gun.
Would you snag this or a x95? I have a nice AR and a flow through can. Was leaning towards the VHS but the Tavor seems to have more aftermarket support,
I would personally take this over a Tavor for a number of reasons. The aftermarket for these is slowly growing- I would say just get the one you want
I wouldn’t be mad if someone handed me one too
Pretty good video, I bought my Hellion last year, Runs 100% suppressed and No gas in my face.
got one of these yesterday. love it so far
@TGF this or the x95 trigger reset is shorter on x95 but its less accurate and suppresses worse. How does the height over bore affect change in zero would you take this or the x95?
@@petemotz48 taller mechanical offset affects the holds at closer ranges for sure, if it’s a gun you’re serious about using, you will learn to overcome it within a couple of hundred rounds. You’re just going to have to hold an inch or so higher
Vojna VHS se može zaključati!
Volio bih da ovdje mogu nabaviti vojne VHS dijelove!
Can i play all my old tapes on this?
No, you can only make copies, you’d need a VHS-1 to actually play them unfortunately :(
@@TheGunFellas dangnabbit
I have one it's a good gun.
Great review... straight to the point. Hellion is a dumb name, agree. I have this as well as the x95 and can't wait to compare the 2.
Thank you for the kind words brotha!
How hard was it to get the proper can for it and to fit?
This rifle has 1/2x28 threads, so most suppressors will fit it no problem
Getting the factory muzzle device off! WOOF! That was tough lol
Thank you brother, I've been trying to get answers about this thing from other channels...
So I'm gonna hv to replace the muzzle your saying?
Or should just ask which muzzle and which suppressor should I get?
Which suppressor you buy is totally subjective, everyone always says whichever suppressor they have is the best one, so be weary, do some research, and pick which one you think best suits your needs. I prioritize low back pressure over sound suppression, so I use OSS/Huxwrx mostly
What mount are you using for your Streamlight? All mine seem to interfere with my ability to remove the handguard without taking it off first.
I think it’s an old D3 mount, not entirely sure
now if only we could solve the trigger for these bullpups, and we'd have a functional rifle that would not just be successful within niche groups, but go mainstream.
I agree- I’d say it’s roughly on par with the average military bullpup, but I think there’s plenty of room to 🤌🤌🤏
I’d appreciate an aftermarket trigger for this thing a lot
@@TheGunFellas i agree but even a great trigger won't eliminate the creep and long pull length because that's coming from the linkage between the "trigger" and the actual trigger assembly under the action further back on the rifle. from a manufacturing standpoint i'm unsure of how we would eliminate that given the action isn't by where we would want to place a trigger on a bullpup. one thought i had was what about the electrically assisted firing systems used on airsoft weapons, but i duno if that's a viable solution. still i eagerly await when bullpups solve that, will 100% jump on board with them then.
I wouldn’t call it creep so much as “homogeneous mush” but I agree, I’d like to see it hemmed in a little. Not sure of the consequences thereof, because I’m barely literate, but it sounds good in my head
The VHS 2 trigger’s not that bad.
The best of all bull-pups, by far.
Carried an M16 for years.
Its Milspec trigger was crap.
It’s a combat rifle. Not a comp. gun.
Go to the wall, & work from there.
“Train to the gun”.
It’s NOT an AR.
Get over it.
I do know of Gunsmith’s that can tighten up that creep, if it really bothers you that much.
Have you had a chance to try night vision with this yet?
Much of the intro is me shooting it with night vision!
@@TheGunFellas Sorry. Wasn't paying attention. Was it a pain to set up all the switches?
A bit more involved than an AR, but then again all LAM and light switches are designed around the AR. It IS possible on this gun, though, and it really isn’t as bad as you’d think
@@TheGunFellas Great info. Never actually seen one of these kitted out for NV.
@frankopanklaric right now I just have an LA5 and a vampire on mine with a Unity dual lead, totally doable
it extends because croats are pretty tall on average.
True 💯🤔
Višenamjenska Hrvatska Strojnica ! :D (aka a VHS) - engl.Multitasking Croatian Rifle)
how to review a gun👍
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😎 epic
Hard to watch when you sigh like your tired of it throughout the video. lol
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Don't worry if you don't hit the target, if you miss you can just gas them out with all the gas coming from the suppressor
Couldn't have said it any better lol
😂🤣😅👍
It isn't that great. I put mine into the ohio river for 3 months and it only fired 2 magazines (promag, very reliable) before a failure.
Sad!
You what? Did you throw it in the river instead of get it fixed?
Usually after you shoot someone you do not go retrieve said firearm 😂 but you do you
Two months in a river ??? But what did you expect ? Are you silly ?
Awfully heavy for what it is tho
Fair, but I’m unaware of any bullpup that isn’t heavy
I'm fine with weight. I just hate front heaviness
Might need to go ogre at some point...
Just because it's strongly built (examine the bolt size and you will understand) !
That trigger is just garbage!
It’s certainly a bullpup lol
I mean, if you been spoiled with Larue or other triggers sure but its definitely serviceable after taking time to adjust to it.
It's literally not. Mine is perfectly fine you are just a trigger snob.
While I would agree that the trigger is far from great. Those that have actually shot the rifle say it is not that not bad.
@@bmrz38 the problem is that we’re all used to AR triggers, which are categorically probably the best triggers of any gun platform as a whole, so we’re all just used to having comparatively amazing triggers be the norm. Today’s milspec AR trigger was yesterday’s turbo match grade unicorn trigger in any other gun.
WHAT IS WITH THE " OPERATORS" WHO MUST USE A SUPPRESSOR WITH SUPERSONIC AMMO? IT TOTALLY NEGATES THE PURPOSE OF THE SUPPRESSOR, IT IS NOT HEARING SAFE. POINTLESS
The suppressor also kills muzzle flash entirely which makes it very effective at night.
30 dcb difference is far from pointless.
Yeah, I mean, shut up, so
Suppressors help kill muzzle flash and dust signature you dumb boomer
Lmao
apathetic much? Can't finish the video.
Dude I’m just a guy trying to provide information
I agree, his presentation was painful with no energy.
@@bmrz38 just my perspective on a gun, filmed on a phone in my back yard, not trying to win any production awards, just trying to share information that isn’t canned from some company or whatever.
@@TheGunFellas everybodys is a critic
I like his presentation. Blunt, refreshing compared to the host of Billy May's reviewers or the if it's not an AR I hate it downers.
I know I use it in ghost recon breakpoint and it fucks