Lets just say that a true motorcyclist doesn't buy a motorcycle for practical or logical reasons. The motorcyclist would buy it because of the connect the rider would feel with the machine. Yes the 1000cc super sports are basically human operated ballistic missiles on the road, and are not beginner's motorcycles by any stretch of imagination, but they are also the bleeding edge of motorcycle tech and just owning one and seeing her parked in the garage is exhilarating enough
@@KrishnenduKesI just bought a 2012 r1 yesterday. I’m sitting in my garage watching this UA-cam vid with AR glasses while I stare at my bike in the background… I’m in love… The look, the feeling, etc… I had a 2003 r1 over 10 years ago and I rode it for 3 years it was my first bike, but I took it slow and opened it up as I got more used to it during track days. Never wrecked because I know my limits. Welp, it got stolen and I always wanted another one… Finally I bit the bullet and got one and was going to get an older one, but when I felt and heard the cross plane, I went for that… it’s a way different feeling and I love that it gives me chills
I have a dyslexic '02 R1 that thinks it's a '20. The reason I ride it is because it is that good. I have held up getting the '24 simply because I lack the time to ride as much as I would like for now. It's wonderful to see a geezer enjoying such an unique experience and showing younger generations the benefits of safe and responsible riding. I was once accused of being 22 years old while riding my R1 (I am 64)😄. As always, great video.
You have not stopped me from buying one. I used to ride bikes many years ago and still ply on my nephews R3. I don`t have to ride the R1at full tilt every time i throw a leg over. So buying one next week.
I want to try a cross-plain R1. I started riding when I was 18. I was 35 when the 1998 R1 came out. I rode a friend's R1 and was hooked. I bought a new 1999 R1 that next year. My next R1 was a new 2007. It was awesome. I was disappointed when it went cross-plain in 2009. This latest generation of R1 really appeals to me and I think I might buy one next year. The cross-plain grew on me. I will still keep my 21'GSXR1000R. The R1 will be for those special times. I'm only 5'4" and tall bikes are a little annoying, but I can live tippy toeing😂. Good video, I subscribed.
Thanks mate for the nice comment and the sub. Good to hear the story of your motorcycle evolution. The R1 crossplane crank is indeed addictive to say the least.
Burn rubber...Not your ass...I just celebrated my 60th beeday and have been on bikes most of my life..I started on a 2000 zx6r and was hooked..Went and got a 95 Katana 600 then several years later got a 98 gsxr 750 srad and sold it to a college student and bought an 04 Gto to play with..Got myself an 03 gsxr 750 and have been on her since and until I can no longer enjoy throwing my leg over it I don't plan on stopping anytime soon..Where are my 60 year old crotch rocket riders at?❤😎👊
I brought my friends 06 R1 because he basically gave me a deal i couldn't refuse. I rode back in the early 00 but haven't been on a bike in years. Yes, I had some experience but never on a 1lt. To anyone who gets a new or older R1, you better respect that bike. The forgiveness of a 600cc or less is nonexistent. Im older and imagining some teen or younger riders jumping on one of these bikes is scary cause 1 liter+ bikes want to run and are stupid fast. Great video, BTW!
I love when I see videos like this. Because I INDEED started on a R1 and I was COMPLETELY a beginner with no training, with only a friend and youtube to help 😂😂
@@R1DEOUT So no regrets, huh? I wanna get a R1 as my first bike as well but everyone around me try to put me down lol.... And I REALLY DREAM ABOUT THIS BIKE FOR YEARSSS
@@skaadi1236 I’d say if you, yourself feels completely confident enough to get started on a big bike. Then homegirl… DO THAT SHIT! lol just some positivity for ya for those that don’t agree
My first bike was a 09 R1, cause i knew what i wanted. On the test ride the owner saw me trying to hit the modes & said "No, sir. Before i sell it to you, you need to ride in A mode around the lot." 8yrs so far. I did take a Honda rider course a few months before purchasing.
I grow weary of so many folks that don't know sheet yet want to tell everyone that they know it all. Any supersport bike isn't meant for the street, you can't ride a 600 to it's limits. Ultimately, if you don't know how to ride learn on a lower HP bike, nothing is more fun than going fast on a slow bike. I taught On One Wheel and at the California Superbike School. Learn to ride a dirtbike, then a small CC bike then step up. Enjoy the experience, read books and take a school or 6. Learning what a bike needs is key. There will be plenty of time to kill or mame yourself after you think you know how to ride. Ride fun!
I respectively disagree. I brought a 2018 R1 as a first bike and a beginner. All these youtube videos had this tone. It depends on the rider. I’m 6’0 225 so I wasn’t going for a 600. Honestly believe with newer bikes with quick shifter and ABS a respective beginner will be fine. The bike has the power and a new rider doesn’t have to shift as much. To me the most difficult thing about riding is maneuvering the clutch in traffic. This is much more difficult with a 600. The R1 engine braking sucks and you’ll need to get an ecu flash for a smoother power delivery. I’ve had my bike for 6 years and no accidents (knock on wood). Any motorcycles are dangerous and need to be respected. But if you can fit the bike you can ride it. Take your time and get training and work on your skill every time you ride. Ride your ride thats it. Some people I ride with on 600s can smoke me because they have more skills or they take risk I don’t. This bike doesn’t have too much power,,, not such thing. Youll get use to the power quick. The problem with R1 is the power is delayed and the bike isn’t that quick in the lower end of the power band. But when it comes on it punch hard at the top and you’ll catch anybody. The R1 has superior handling and really earns its money at the top end and in corners. It really is a track bike. I ride in the dangerous street of Philadelphia and this bike can be ridin fine. But this machine requires allot of mental stamina you have to stay focus while riding.
I'm glad you did well on your R1 as a first bike. I guess that the general advice from experienced riders who had several crashes is, we people are usually stupid or emotional once in a while. That kind of slip up can get you injured on a 300-500cc bike, and will most definetly get you killed on any bike with +150hp. Is too harsh to say "since people are stupid and overestimate their skills, you most probably do it too, which can easily kill you with this bike". There is not a single bike with over 100hp that is a begginer bike. Can some begginers be levelheaded and patient to handle them? For sure, but the risk to find if you are one of them is simply not worth.
I love both the sound of a screaming Ferrari V12 and the sound of a NASCAR. At the end of the day, that sound is communicating to you the power and you can sense/feel that poower and that's what makes the sound exciting. You can make your R3 sound a little better than stock but beyond that, you're just making noise and being obnoxious, there's nothing there but 42 HP so keep it real.
My first bike , maybe 3 weeks owned is a triumph speed triple rs 1050cc 150 hp 83 ftlbs ,, I ride in street mode no issues I control the bike 100% never rode in sport or track and not planning too with additional classes but for the street and the riding I do .. I’m glad I brought a 1000cc bike
The sport and track mode on the RS aren’t even that much different it’s just a more different throttle response lol but I get it if it’s your first bike
I rode a 600 for 60k miles and did a bunch of track days with it. I wouldn't have had the confidence to move up to a 1k cc if it weren't for that track experience. I'm so glad I made the jump because the cbr1k feels like it's just a faster 600 🙂
Sir, much respect to you. Your videos about the R-1 are absolutely spot on, all of the points that you have made about the R-1 in this video and the previous are so true, from the seat height to power and the sound. As mentioned in my last comment, I purchase my 2023 R-1 identical to yours back in July of 2023, and I fell in love with the cross-plane engine, so much so that I just purchased my second 2023 CP4 engine, but an MT 10 SP came with that CP4 engine, LOL. I guess having 2 CP4 engine in my collection was the perfect balance. R1 is the king and the MT 10 SP is the queen of my collection. Once again, I sincerely thank you for creating and sharing this wonderful video with us. Be well :) Respectfully, Nish
i mean to see if i’ll change my mind based on telling me things that were on your mind? nah. not a bit. i love the r1 and will be purchasing it as my 2nd bike owned.
hehehe i went from husky svart 701 to r1. I can definitely say it was scary at first but now everything is good. Been taking it out to the mountains and might do track days with it.
I absolutely love the R1's looks, the sound though, just not for me. Half of my riding experience is the joy of hearing the exhaust notes... Gsx-r 1000r is what makes me happy.
Hey guys last year i pass my CBT in the UK and was riding yellow Honda Melody bike bored out to 65cc and it was scary so quick but someone steal it and i cant catch them because it so quick. So i am buying a 2022 R1 to catch everyone now thankyou for posting the video it make up my mind to buy
I’ve been riding since 2019 and I started out on a 2019 Yamaha R3 and then made a terrifying jump to a 2022 Harley Davidson Low rider S with the 117 so I made a jump from a 321cc to a 2000cc bike and have been riding my Harley and maxed it out many times on corners etc for the past 2 years. I know my Harley needs a friend tho and I miss having a crotch rocket but I know I couldn’t buy a crotch rocket less than a liter bike again. So I’m considering buying either a new Yamaha R1 or a mid 2000’s R1. My Harley IS NOT A BEGINNER BIKE NOR IS A R1!!! If you don’t have the experience time or money to fix a Liter bike do not buy one because you WILL crash learning it and it’s just suicide at that point.
a beginner has no problem driving a yamaha r1, know several who are total freshers with a new certificate, zero problem. The most dangerous thing is 40-50 year old men who think they are motogp drivers.. and what happens? most accidents are men aged 40-50.I took a license on a heavy motorbike, never ridden a light motorbike, tried a moped once. first new motorcycle I bought was a brand new GSXR1000 200hp
Sir, when you revealed your height, I was so relieved. I've always been stressed over my height to ride my dream bike R1. And I find a ton of other videos on youtube (specially Indian vloggers) claiming they're 5'10 and still tippie toe which really sets me off cuz I'm 5'7. And your videos are top notch with detailed info and I am really pleased to know I am not that short to ride a R1.
1000cc are crazy powerful, but most 600cc sports sit more aggressive than their bigger brother. My 2023 r1 seating position is more comfortable than my 2020 Yamaha R6.
Good Video, experience and wisdom right there. I have been ridding for 30 years and have had all CC Bikes from a Honda 80cc when I was kid to a Honda Fire blade and Ducati V4. and everything in between. I think 1,000CC bikes are bucket list items since in tracks a tuned out 600 will smoke them any ways. Absolutely not for everyday city ridding.(Over heat, heavy, and the engine hates stop n go traffic) Not to mention so much un used power left on the table, Amateurs buy them but n ride them like bicycles afraid of their power and no idea how to use the brakes correctly.. pathetic. Thanks for the Vid.
The only reason i wouldn’t get one is because I want to make motorcycle content but too many UA-camrs have this exact bike so it’s a no go, still love the CP4 sound but it’s overplayed now so I guess I’ll just pick up a Gsxr 1000 or a cbr1000rr-r instead since people don’t really ride those like that unless going in a straight line…
if you took the ergos and performance of this bike if it fit somebody and it had a 250cc engine you would say its good for a beginner, and D mode is pretty much that. and when its time to go a little faster that new rider already would have the advantage of the seat time and the new bike learning curve would be gone. If you can have the disipline keeping the power down for a few months then yes new riders just get the R1, all the rider aids included unlike a typical beginners bike, if you keep it in good shape you'll have tons of resale value and if you want to tinker with it and dump money into it you'll smile every time you rev the engine.
Just buy the 05 -2011 r1 with the flat plane engine if you don’t like the sound of the newer cross plane engine.. the I got an 06 r1 because it sounds so much better and picks up speed better in low rpms, plus it’s just you and the bike no electronics!
@@pikesbikesnguns7720 2009 They changed to the cross plane crank. I have owned the 2006 and the 2007. I also rode the 2009 when they introduced the cross plane for the first time. I prefer this by far.
After large consideration, I've decided not to go for the R1(M) but for the Panigale V4SP2, although the R1 is a piece of art as well. Cool Video, keep up the work!
Definitely yes. These litre class bikes are not for beginners. Heck! Not even D390 D250 even for someone who is just starting to learn riding motorcycles. And we all remember you coming with Mael on your R1 to those G2Gs 😌 You even gave a ride to my wife after some rock concert
i started on a gsr 750 and switched real fast to the gsxr 750. honestly the 750 is an amazing bike that can last you for years and gives you plenty of power and fun. But that being said im now looking for a r1. Not the newer gen but somewhere in the 06 till 08 years. I just like the look of the r1. forgot to ask but are you going to switch the exhaust? a buddy of mine got the 2016 r1 with the full akra exhaust and the sound is amazing!
Thank you for your detailed post. So, going by your post, it seems that you are looking for the conventional inline 4 setup. Not the crossplane crankshaft.
Back when I was a teenager in the 70's in Ireland all you could get were Honda's and Yamaha's at least where I lived so my judgement is still clouded by that even today. I was a Honda guy back then - a Honda CB 125 was my dream bike. The Yamaha's were all ugly compared to the Honda's, they sounded weird and smoked a lot so even an R1 today still gets the "Oh its a fucking yamaha" negative vibe in my head straight away. Nowadays my bikes are Ducati's (V2 + Monster), BMW S1k, Kawasaki ZRX 1200RR, Triumph Thruxton R and my Lifan E3 electric moped. I never owned a personal Honda or Yamaha bike - was a bike cop for years on police Honda's. Only 600 I ever owned was a Suzuki Bandit bought new in 2000.
I feel like anything way above 60hp is just too much unused power for the streets of my country I would personally get a 2 stroke 125 or a inline 4 250cc, sadly can't buy one of those because of emissions regulations
yup, it’s comical overkill to buy an R1 if you’re not looking to take it to the track. I’m perfectly happy with my R7, it’s more than enough for every reasonably possible use case, city, highway, twisties, whatever you throw at it.
I have a question for you sir: I will aquire my driving licence in couple of months(its cold for bike learning lol) also i live in Serbia so it is a must to get a category for motorcycles.I plan to buy a yamaha r1 from year 2000(carburated),i am 6'6'' tall or 198 cm in metric haha.I believe im am a responsible person(will turn 34 in may) and confident in my abilities to drive motorcycles but the question is:am i mad to buy an older crouch rocket with no abs or any other rider help and yeet myself into space or not? 🤣🤣Btw you now have a new follower,love your videos especially about r1.Ride safe and cheers!
Thank you for your comment. 🙏🏽🙏🏽 If you are going to buy a carburetted R1, you will have to think about maintenance, cleaning and all of that. I had a used R1 once with carbs. But if you are mature and responsible, I think you should be fine. Keep me updated.
Lets say i have been riding bikes for 8years or more like i've learnt riding a bike when i was 5th grade(11yr old) and now iam 21 and iam graduating, i have my own bike (200cc) also I have riding experience on 350-400cc bikes and had riding experience over 50000 kms, and iam 6'2" height (187cms) and i absolutely love crossplane and v4 roaring sounds....is the R1 good for me?
@@Gg66226 As long as you control the throttle very well, have good idea of the sensitivity of the throttle of a full fledged race bike, you should be good. Begin at Mode D and Pwr 4.
Buyin a new literbike this year. Torn between the R1 and the S1000rr. I love the R1. They look and sound amazing. But the S1k has everything possible and is much more comfortable as a commuter. But is it worth $5k more is the question.
@@scrateshooteractually the s1k is a little more for insurance because it cost so much to repair. It's like 6x more expensive to own and repair than a Japanese bike. Just a clutch lever is $300. I went with the BMW btw. Then someone vandalized it trying to steal it within the same month of me buying it. It's costing me $10000 just to repair the ignition and the left fairings bc BMW charges insane prices for parts and labor. That's what I wish I knew before I bought it
Yest 1000cc is overkill for sure but i do not ride 1000cc only because it has all the power i will need at some moment. It is a completely different than 600. The engine feels better, you dont have to screem it all the time to get the power. Aso if you are tall guy, 600 feels even like smaller bike than beginner 250. They are too compact. 1000cc is much more stable but a bit heavy and its weight is definitellly there when you go on mountin roads and try to slow down in hard corners. There is nothing better than crossplain yamaha r1 :) This is why i would like to aford it even i have paralell 4 :) 1000cc fireblade which i like. I have long experience on motorcycles and would say if someone just starts on motorcycling - get 250 single cylinder, you will not be dissapointed and you could do with it whatever you do usually do even on 1000cc. I would like to be younger and start again on a small single cyclinder sport bike - swetest years of my life :)
Here is why you should buy the Yamaha R1: 1. The Crossplane Crank sound is ridiculous. 2. The front end looks sick. 3. Saying you have an R1 just sounds cool. 4. The tail is mesmerizing. 5. Although it may not be the fastest 1k cc bike out there, it is still fast as all get out, as all 1k cc's are. 6. You will be really cool. 7. 600cc's is cool, but 1000 cc's is cooooler...it's not too much power, it's not enough! 8. Who cares about seat height, lower it, geezus.
A 600 is overkill if you want to speak on too much everyone might as well get a 3-400cc bike if you talking about being able to max a bike out and stick to speed limit
Hey Awesome video mate, hello from Australia, I've been riding motorbikes on the road since I was 16 (currently 21) I started on an r3 and moved up to an r7 because my r3 got stolen, the r1 has been my dream bike for awhile and I am 185cms and feel like I got the experience to be sensible, do you think I should go for my dream bike or something else like a ninja zx6r, I did get the chance to test ride a 2023 ninja zx6r which was pretty fun, But I'm torn between the 2 bikes because the r1 has been my dream bike since I started riding
Great question! Personally, I cannot advice you on that choice. The mind says that the ZX6R is more than enough. The heart says go for the R1. Really up to you mate.
@@KrishnenduKes now this is an interesting question, never been asked before about locations regarding motorcycles, but i am really looking forward to hear your advice, i live in Bahrain, yeah a lot of ppl have no clue where it is but it is known for those who follow F1 races.
@@KrishnenduKes Any other pass recall history or common problem with R1 that I should be watching out for mate? I'm currently on GSXR 600 K6 and I had to move the rectifier out from behind the radioator to somewhere cooler.
@@RedRanger-b7m Interesting problem. From memory, Yamaha has had no recalls on any of their street bikes in the past 3 years. Honda has had small recall issues on 2 of their dirt bikes. If there is a recall, we cannot sell those bikes anymore till we have the replacement parts.
At good skydiving clubs the current senior guys will advise you about high performance canopies...for the individual biker,that doesn't belong to a serious club ...it's at your own peril 😂😂😂😂...good luck?
I dont think a 1000cc is over kill if you been ridin alomg time. An you get alot more tech with 1000ccs your not getting on 600s. Maybe some on the newer r7s or gsx 8r. I personally had higher hopes for the r7 but it just didnt have enough ass an the brakes were horrible. I think i might get the gsx 8r tho they seem to being doung good. Have to test drive one.
40+ years of riding. More than half a million kilometres of street bikes. I believe that a 1000cc is overkill. I do not need an R1. Also, the R7 is not a Supersports motor. It is the motor of an MT07. No reason for it to ride like a Supersports.
Plz suggest me a 4 cylinder bike,i ride an yamaha R3 and want a second bike and that should be Japanese...am from westbengal, india...ride mostly in city and occasional highway s? And probably this would b my 1st and last inline4,plz suggest me...plz..
On my older R1s, I used to use saddlebags from a French company called Bagster. I bought them in Lyon, France way back in 2006 with heat shields, (underseat exhausts), and used them for over 60K Kms (40K Miles) on the R1.
I got an R1 as my first bike with no prior motorcycle experience as long as you take your time with it and respect the motorcycle as my grandfather told me you ride like lightning you’re gonna crash like thunder. It is overkill though lol you’re right about that to the tee it’s extremely overkill.
I always tell newbies to start on nakeds, those are great bikes bc theyre comfy and really easy to turn without all the mental distractions of uncomfortable ergos and harder slow speed turns
Understandable. But you putting fear in people who are beginners.! I started of on a zx14r stretched lower fbo.! Its all about response and confidence and respecting the bike. Just because you was scared and didn’t start off on a 1k cc bike don’t discourage others.!
I sell motorcycles for a living. I will not sell a 14R or a litre bike to a beginner. I have to sleep at night. Not all people are like you. I have been riding for 45+ years. I prefer to err on the cautious side.
Lets just say that a true motorcyclist doesn't buy a motorcycle for practical or logical reasons. The motorcyclist would buy it because of the connect the rider would feel with the machine. Yes the 1000cc super sports are basically human operated ballistic missiles on the road, and are not beginner's motorcycles by any stretch of imagination, but they are also the bleeding edge of motorcycle tech and just owning one and seeing her parked in the garage is exhilarating enough
That's an amazing comment. I truly resonate with that.
*Had to pin this comment.
@@KrishnenduKes I made a boo boo... I meant to say that a true motorcyclist "doesn't" buy a motorcycle for practical or logical reasons.
Absolutely. 1000cc are not for beginners.
Yes, yes, yes!
@@KrishnenduKesI just bought a 2012 r1 yesterday. I’m sitting in my garage watching this UA-cam vid with AR glasses while I stare at my bike in the background… I’m in love… The look, the feeling, etc… I had a 2003 r1 over 10 years ago and I rode it for 3 years it was my first bike, but I took it slow and opened it up as I got more used to it during track days. Never wrecked because I know my limits. Welp, it got stolen and I always wanted another one… Finally I bit the bullet and got one and was going to get an older one, but when I felt and heard the cross plane, I went for that… it’s a way different feeling and I love that it gives me chills
My first bike was a 2001 R1. I had no idea what i had but that thing was a monster
I had an 02 it was wild
@@WeAllRide just got an 03 r1 😂
I have a dyslexic '02 R1 that thinks it's a '20. The reason I ride it is because it is that good. I have held up getting the '24 simply because I lack the time to ride as much as I would like for now. It's wonderful to see a geezer enjoying such an unique experience and showing younger generations the benefits of safe and responsible riding. I was once accused of being 22 years old while riding my R1 (I am 64)😄. As always, great video.
Thanks mate! What a great comment lol! Great to hear that you are riding a 2002 R1.
Aftermarket sound on these bikes are pleasure inducing! I would have one and be proud to own it!
I bought an R1 because just because they look awesome and sound even better,it having crazy power and all the other stuff is a bonus.
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You have not stopped me from buying one. I used to ride bikes many years ago and still ply on my nephews R3. I don`t have to ride the R1at full tilt every time i throw a leg over. So buying one next week.
Congratulations on your new purchase! Enjoy.
I ride a 2016 R1. It’s no joke. And you are spot on about how broad the seat is. Its wide for sure
Lol yes!
I want to try a cross-plain R1. I started riding when I was 18. I was 35 when the 1998 R1 came out. I rode a friend's R1 and was hooked. I bought a new 1999 R1 that next year. My next R1 was a new 2007. It was awesome. I was disappointed when it went cross-plain in 2009. This latest generation of R1 really appeals to me and I think I might buy one next year. The cross-plain grew on me. I will still keep my 21'GSXR1000R. The R1 will be for those special times. I'm only 5'4" and tall bikes are a little annoying, but I can live tippy toeing😂. Good video, I subscribed.
Thanks mate for the nice comment and the sub. Good to hear the story of your motorcycle evolution. The R1 crossplane crank is indeed addictive to say the least.
Burn rubber...Not your ass...I just celebrated my 60th beeday and have been on bikes most of my life..I started on a 2000 zx6r and was hooked..Went and got a 95 Katana 600 then several years later got a 98 gsxr 750 srad and sold it to a college student and bought an 04 Gto to play with..Got myself an 03 gsxr 750 and have been on her since and until I can no longer enjoy throwing my leg over it I don't plan on stopping anytime soon..Where are my 60 year old crotch rocket riders at?❤😎👊
Got the new 2024 R1 on our showroom floor.
Shoulda gotta 23 on discount
@@jvillain9946why?
Any issues so far?
I brought my friends 06 R1 because he basically gave me a deal i couldn't refuse.
I rode back in the early 00 but haven't been on a bike in years.
Yes, I had some experience but never on a 1lt. To anyone who gets a new or older R1, you better respect that bike. The forgiveness of a 600cc or less is nonexistent.
Im older and imagining some teen or younger riders jumping on one of these bikes is scary cause 1 liter+ bikes want to run and are stupid fast.
Great video, BTW!
Thanks mate! I have owned a 2006 R1 to coincidentally. Amazing bike. I think that was one of the first ones to have ride by wire.
I have a 2008 Yamaha R1 Raven and it is brutally quick.
A 9.88 second 1/4 time is almost unreal.
@scrateshooter They're awesome bikes. I have a blast every time I ride!
I love when I see videos like this. Because I INDEED started on a R1 and I was COMPLETELY a beginner with no training, with only a friend and youtube to help 😂😂
How is that going?
@@josecavaco8978 3 motorcycles later I’d say it’s going great. 👍🏾
@@R1DEOUT So no regrets, huh? I wanna get a R1 as my first bike as well but everyone around me try to put me down lol.... And I REALLY DREAM ABOUT THIS BIKE FOR YEARSSS
@@skaadi1236 I’d say if you, yourself feels completely confident enough to get started on a big bike. Then homegirl… DO THAT SHIT! lol just some positivity for ya for those that don’t agree
@@R1DEOUT Thank you a lot😭😭❤️ Personally, I think that if you respect the bike and are aware of it’s power.. everything should be fine
My first bike was a 09 R1, cause i knew what i wanted. On the test ride the owner saw me trying to hit the modes & said "No, sir. Before i sell it to you, you need to ride in A mode around the lot." 8yrs so far. I did take a Honda rider course a few months before purchasing.
Good for you!
I grow weary of so many folks that don't know sheet yet want to tell everyone that they know it all. Any supersport bike isn't meant for the street, you can't ride a 600 to it's limits. Ultimately, if you don't know how to ride learn on a lower HP bike, nothing is more fun than going fast on a slow bike. I taught On One Wheel and at the California Superbike School. Learn to ride a dirtbike, then a small CC bike then step up. Enjoy the experience, read books and take a school or 6. Learning what a bike needs is key. There will be plenty of time to kill or mame yourself after you think you know how to ride. Ride fun!
Just look at the number of folks who say that the R1 is a beginner bike!
No one buys a bike logically . Want it buy it
True. But folks spend a lot of time trying to choose a bike.
I respectively disagree. I brought a 2018 R1 as a first bike and a beginner. All these youtube videos had this tone. It depends on the rider. I’m 6’0 225 so I wasn’t going for a 600. Honestly believe with newer bikes with quick shifter and ABS a respective beginner will be fine. The bike has the power and a new rider doesn’t have to shift as much. To me the most difficult thing about riding is maneuvering the clutch in traffic. This is much more difficult with a 600. The R1 engine braking sucks and you’ll need to get an ecu flash for a smoother power delivery. I’ve had my bike for 6 years and no accidents (knock on wood). Any motorcycles are dangerous and need to be respected. But if you can fit the bike you can ride it. Take your time and get training and work on your skill every time you ride. Ride your ride thats it. Some people I ride with on 600s can smoke me because they have more skills or they take risk I don’t. This bike doesn’t have too much power,,, not such thing. Youll get use to the power quick. The problem with R1 is the power is delayed and the bike isn’t that quick in the lower end of the power band. But when it comes on it punch hard at the top and you’ll catch anybody. The R1 has superior handling and really earns its money at the top end and in corners. It really is a track bike. I ride in the dangerous street of Philadelphia and this bike can be ridin fine. But this machine requires allot of mental stamina you have to stay focus while riding.
I'm glad you did well on your R1 as a first bike.
I guess that the general advice from experienced riders who had several crashes is, we people are usually stupid or emotional once in a while. That kind of slip up can get you injured on a 300-500cc bike, and will most definetly get you killed on any bike with +150hp.
Is too harsh to say "since people are stupid and overestimate their skills, you most probably do it too, which can easily kill you with this bike".
There is not a single bike with over 100hp that is a begginer bike.
Can some begginers be levelheaded and patient to handle them? For sure, but the risk to find if you are one of them is simply not worth.
Old friend I went to elementary with bought one as a beginner, he was warned , he passed due to an accident on that bike two days ago.
Sorry to hear that mate.
I love both the sound of a screaming Ferrari V12 and the sound of a NASCAR.
At the end of the day, that sound is communicating to you the power and you can sense/feel that poower and that's what makes the sound exciting.
You can make your R3 sound a little better than stock but beyond that, you're just making noise and being obnoxious, there's nothing there but 42 HP so keep it real.
My first bike , maybe 3 weeks owned is a triumph speed triple rs 1050cc 150 hp 83 ftlbs ,, I ride in street mode no issues I control the bike 100% never rode in sport or track and not planning too with additional classes but for the street and the riding I do .. I’m glad I brought a 1000cc bike
Good for you. Most people cannot do that.
The sport and track mode on the RS aren’t even that much different it’s just a more different throttle response lol but I get it if it’s your first bike
I rode a 600 for 60k miles and did a bunch of track days with it. I wouldn't have had the confidence to move up to a 1k cc if it weren't for that track experience. I'm so glad I made the jump because the cbr1k feels like it's just a faster 600 🙂
Wow! You racked up the miles mate! Great going. Hope to meet you one day.
dont matter what you start on just know what your getting yourself into and have self control any bike can hurt you
True.
Sir, much respect to you. Your videos about the R-1 are absolutely spot on, all of the points that you have made about the R-1 in this video and the previous are so true, from the seat height to power and the sound. As mentioned in my last comment, I purchase my 2023 R-1 identical to yours back in July of 2023, and I fell in love with the cross-plane engine, so much so that I just purchased my second 2023 CP4 engine, but an MT 10 SP came with that CP4 engine, LOL. I guess having 2 CP4 engine in my collection was the perfect balance. R1 is the king and the MT 10 SP is the queen of my collection.
Once again, I sincerely thank you for creating and sharing this wonderful video with us. Be well :)
Respectfully, Nish
Thank you so much for your kind comment. I am shortly about to make a video on the MT10 SP version. Yes, it is a great bike too.
I rode an R1 10yrs ago and knew instantly it was too much. Loved my R6
@@Mr_Banker222 R6 is an amazing bike mate.
i mean to see if i’ll change my mind based on telling me things that were on your mind?
nah. not a bit.
i love the r1 and will be purchasing it as my 2nd bike owned.
Sure. Feel free. If you have the confidence, good for you.
hehehe i went from husky svart 701 to r1. I can definitely say it was scary at first but now everything is good. Been taking it out to the mountains and might do track days with it.
The Svartpilen 701 is an incredible bike. Unfortunate they stopped making it.
I ride 2016 R1 the best thing going is the sound for sure but definitely not for short riders it’s a tall bike other than that amazing motorcycle
Oh yes!
I absolutely love the R1's looks, the sound though, just not for me. Half of my riding experience is the joy of hearing the exhaust notes... Gsx-r 1000r is what makes me happy.
Enjoy your Suzuki
Hey guys last year i pass my CBT in the UK and was riding yellow Honda Melody bike bored out to 65cc and it was scary so quick but someone steal it and i cant catch them because it so quick. So i am buying a 2022 R1 to catch everyone now thankyou for posting the video it make up my mind to buy
I am glad the video helped you. Enjoy mate!
I’ve been riding since 2019 and I started out on a 2019 Yamaha R3 and then made a terrifying jump to a 2022 Harley Davidson Low rider S with the 117 so I made a jump from a 321cc to a 2000cc bike and have been riding my Harley and maxed it out many times on corners etc for the past 2 years. I know my Harley needs a friend tho and I miss having a crotch rocket but I know I couldn’t buy a crotch rocket less than a liter bike again. So I’m considering buying either a new Yamaha R1 or a mid 2000’s R1. My Harley IS NOT A BEGINNER BIKE NOR IS A R1!!! If you don’t have the experience time or money to fix a Liter bike do not buy one because you WILL crash learning it and it’s just suicide at that point.
Interesting story. Thanks for sharing.
I would like to get R1 even after hearing what you have said about R1. Thanks
Sure. Ride safe.
@@KrishnenduKes thanks🙏
a beginner has no problem driving a yamaha r1, know several who are total freshers with a new certificate, zero problem. The most dangerous thing is 40-50 year old men who think they are motogp drivers.. and what happens? most accidents are men aged 40-50.I took a license on a heavy motorbike, never ridden a light motorbike, tried a moped once. first new motorcycle I bought was a brand new GSXR1000 200hp
Did you say new certificate?
Sir, when you revealed your height, I was so relieved. I've always been stressed over my height to ride my dream bike R1. And I find a ton of other videos on youtube (specially Indian vloggers) claiming they're 5'10 and still tippie toe which really sets me off cuz I'm 5'7.
And your videos are top notch with detailed info and I am really pleased to know I am not that short to ride a R1.
Thanks for your comment. 5'7", if you have good riding experience, you should be fine. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Can’t you just lower the bike? I had trouble with my R1 too.
@@uphill248 I wouldn't lower the bike. It would alter the handling.
1000cc are crazy powerful, but most 600cc sports sit more aggressive than their bigger brother. My 2023 r1 seating position is more comfortable than my 2020 Yamaha R6.
R6 is an exception. 😃😃
I have 2021 zx6r & I’m fairly new to riding. I just bought a 2012 R1 & it just sits in the garage…couldn’t pass up the deal I got on it. 😂
That is tough mate. But you will be riding it soon. Just put the R1 to 4D and the throttle should behave pretty similar to the 636.
Good Video, experience and wisdom right there. I have been ridding for 30 years and have had all CC Bikes from a Honda 80cc when I was kid to a Honda Fire blade and Ducati V4. and everything in between. I think 1,000CC bikes are bucket list items since in tracks a tuned out 600 will smoke them any ways. Absolutely not for everyday city ridding.(Over heat, heavy, and the engine hates stop n go traffic) Not to mention so much un used power left on the table, Amateurs buy them but n ride them like bicycles afraid of their power and no idea how to use the brakes correctly.. pathetic. Thanks for the Vid.
Lol! Mate I couldn't agree with you more every word of it. Rare to find smart guys on the internet!
@@KrishnenduKes Likewise my freind.. Keep making great content.. Ride safe 😎
@@R2690-f3y 🤙🏽🤙🏽🔥🔥
The only reason i wouldn’t get one is because I want to make motorcycle content but too many UA-camrs have this exact bike so it’s a no go, still love the CP4 sound but it’s overplayed now so I guess I’ll just pick up a Gsxr 1000 or a cbr1000rr-r instead since people don’t really ride those like that unless going in a straight line…
Really? I did not know that a lot of UA-camrs have this bike.
Forgot to mention the poor fuel range. Big Bang 2010 bikes are so thirsty for a 17 litre tank.
That is true. The older models used to have an 18 litre tank and could hold out for 250kms.
if you took the ergos and performance of this bike if it fit somebody and it had a 250cc engine you would say its good for a beginner, and D mode is pretty much that. and when its time to go a little faster that new rider already would have the advantage of the seat time and the new bike learning curve would be gone. If you can have the disipline keeping the power down for a few months then yes new riders just get the R1, all the rider aids included unlike a typical beginners bike, if you keep it in good shape you'll have tons of resale value and if you want to tinker with it and dump money into it you'll smile every time you rev the engine.
So many ifs.
Just buy the 05 -2011 r1 with the flat plane engine if you don’t like the sound of the newer cross plane engine.. the I got an 06 r1 because it sounds so much better and picks up speed better in low rpms, plus it’s just you and the bike no electronics!
@@pikesbikesnguns7720 2009 They changed to the cross plane crank.
I have owned the 2006 and the 2007. I also rode the 2009 when they introduced the cross plane for the first time. I prefer this by far.
After large consideration, I've decided not to go for the R1(M) but for the Panigale V4SP2, although the R1 is a piece of art as well. Cool Video, keep up the work!
Thanks mate. The Ducati is an amazing machine. Rode it a few weeks ago.
Never been on a motorcycle before but im in the market for my first bike and i think i found it
Lol! That is funny!
Definitely yes. These litre class bikes are not for beginners. Heck! Not even D390 D250 even for someone who is just starting to learn riding motorcycles. And we all remember you coming with Mael on your R1 to those G2Gs 😌
You even gave a ride to my wife after some rock concert
Lol yes! I remember those days with the R1. I tend to forget which century it was.
It just is killing me that people are asking only a few thousand less than a brand new R1 for a 2020 R6 is insane to me
i started on a gsr 750 and switched real fast to the gsxr 750. honestly the 750 is an amazing bike that can last you for years and gives you plenty of power and fun. But that being said im now looking for a r1. Not the newer gen but somewhere in the 06 till 08 years. I just like the look of the r1. forgot to ask but are you going to switch the exhaust? a buddy of mine got the 2016 r1 with the full akra exhaust and the sound is amazing!
Thank you for your detailed post.
So, going by your post, it seems that you are looking for the conventional inline 4 setup. Not the crossplane crankshaft.
yes indeed. Dont get me wrong i like the sound of the crossplane but budget wise the earlier models are more realistic at the moment.
@@Gixxer_K6 Oh! I get it. I understand now. Thanks for the clarification.
what was the first reason again?:))
I felt like you should have been honest and said "its your pride" that keeps you going back vs "I dont know" lol Great video though. THanks!
Back when I was a teenager in the 70's in Ireland all you could get were Honda's and Yamaha's at least where I lived so my judgement is still clouded by that even today. I was a Honda guy back then - a Honda CB 125 was my dream bike. The Yamaha's were all ugly compared to the Honda's, they sounded weird and smoked a lot so even an R1 today still gets the "Oh its a fucking yamaha" negative vibe in my head straight away. Nowadays my bikes are Ducati's (V2 + Monster), BMW S1k, Kawasaki ZRX 1200RR, Triumph Thruxton R and my Lifan E3 electric moped. I never owned a personal Honda or Yamaha bike - was a bike cop for years on police Honda's. Only 600 I ever owned was a Suzuki Bandit bought new in 2000.
Wow! That is some story! Thank you for sharing. Appreciate it. And you got quite a collection going.
Like the way you explain very good 👍
Thank you very much.
Rocket... period! My 03 is still overkill for the immediate rider.
Totally agree.
I feel like anything way above 60hp is just too much unused power for the streets of my country
I would personally get a 2 stroke 125 or a inline 4 250cc, sadly can't buy one of those because of emissions regulations
It looks and sounds so awesome :)
There been lowering kits for all yamaha r1 for decades now, so the height pretext is invalid I'm 5ft 7 though.
Agreed. But that is not my point. (And I am 165cms, shorter than you.)
What are your thoughts on someone who is coming from an MT09 getting an R1 in terms of riding position?
Good question. Fairly aggressive. Long days on the saddle can be rough.
My first bike was a turbo 1100, Only had 1000s or better. Curre tly Have a 24 R1, 24 V4R, and a 22 Aprillia RSV4 1100. Wasnt hard to learn at all.
Right! Good for you. I would not sell an R1 to a rank beginner who does not even know where is the clutch.
yup, it’s comical overkill to buy an R1 if you’re not looking to take it to the track. I’m perfectly happy with my R7, it’s more than enough for every reasonably possible use case, city, highway, twisties, whatever you throw at it.
Totally true!
I have a question for you sir: I will aquire my driving licence in couple of months(its cold for bike learning lol) also i live in Serbia so it is a must to get a category for motorcycles.I plan to buy a yamaha r1 from year 2000(carburated),i am 6'6'' tall or 198 cm in metric haha.I believe im am a responsible person(will turn 34 in may) and confident in my abilities to drive motorcycles but the question is:am i mad to buy an older crouch rocket with no abs or any other rider help and yeet myself into space or not? 🤣🤣Btw you now have a new follower,love your videos especially about r1.Ride safe and cheers!
Thank you for your comment. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
If you are going to buy a carburetted R1, you will have to think about maintenance, cleaning and all of that. I had a used R1 once with carbs. But if you are mature and responsible, I think you should be fine. Keep me updated.
@@KrishnenduKes will do sir!Thank you for answering in such a short notice :)
Lets say i have been riding bikes for 8years or more like i've learnt riding a bike when i was 5th grade(11yr old) and now iam 21 and iam graduating, i have my own bike (200cc) also I have riding experience on 350-400cc bikes and had riding experience over 50000 kms, and iam 6'2" height (187cms) and i absolutely love crossplane and v4 roaring sounds....is the R1 good for me?
If you are careful with you right wrist, you are ready.
@@KrishnenduKes i just need to know what am doing with my throttle and im good, am i right?
@@Gg66226 As long as you control the throttle very well, have good idea of the sensitivity of the throttle of a full fledged race bike, you should be good. Begin at Mode D and Pwr 4.
@@KrishnenduKes thankyou so much❤️ keep up the good work
Never approach a bend faster than you may need to stop , mid turn , you don't know whats around that corner
Buyin a new literbike this year. Torn between the R1 and the S1000rr. I love the R1. They look and sound amazing. But the S1k has everything possible and is much more comfortable as a commuter. But is it worth $5k more is the question.
It really depends on where you are located. That's my take.
The BMW is cheaper on insurance.
@@scrateshooteractually the s1k is a little more for insurance because it cost so much to repair. It's like 6x more expensive to own and repair than a Japanese bike. Just a clutch lever is $300. I went with the BMW btw. Then someone vandalized it trying to steal it within the same month of me buying it. It's costing me $10000 just to repair the ignition and the left fairings bc BMW charges insane prices for parts and labor. That's what I wish I knew before I bought it
Yest 1000cc is overkill for sure but i do not ride 1000cc only because it has all the power i will need at some moment. It is a completely different than 600. The engine feels better, you dont have to screem it all the time to get the power. Aso if you are tall guy, 600 feels even like smaller bike than beginner 250. They are too compact. 1000cc is much more stable but a bit heavy and its weight is definitellly there when you go on mountin roads and try to slow down in hard corners. There is nothing better than crossplain yamaha r1 :) This is why i would like to aford it even i have paralell 4 :) 1000cc fireblade which i like. I have long experience on motorcycles and would say if someone just starts on motorcycling - get 250 single cylinder, you will not be dissapointed and you could do with it whatever you do usually do even on 1000cc. I would like to be younger and start again on a small single cyclinder sport bike - swetest years of my life :)
First bike I got when I passed me test only goes as fast as you twist throttle
Sure!
That’s why I bought my lovely Yamaha MT-10 and straight pipe it 😈
Pretty darn smart thing to do honestly!
I got my first R1 in 2002 lol and still have it!
Wow! You are attached to your bikes! Nice.
I have enough experience im tall enough for the r1 i just dont have the money to have it what an life mann i want one so bad
@@argjends19 Sorry about that mate
Would you still buy the R1? Why?
Dream thats why
@@mdrajexynos5295 Go get it mate.
Just lower it a bit lol
Im the same height as you and I owned a bigger bike than that for years.
You are a good rider
Here is why you should buy the Yamaha R1:
1. The Crossplane Crank sound is ridiculous.
2. The front end looks sick.
3. Saying you have an R1 just sounds cool.
4. The tail is mesmerizing.
5. Although it may not be the fastest 1k cc bike out there, it is still fast as all get out, as all 1k cc's are.
6. You will be really cool.
7. 600cc's is cool, but 1000 cc's is cooooler...it's not too much power, it's not enough!
8. Who cares about seat height, lower it, geezus.
Good points. Though I wouldn't go with point 8. That's because I do not like to alter the riding geometry.
for me, I had to bc im short af...@@KrishnenduKes
A 600 is overkill if you want to speak on too much everyone might as well get a 3-400cc bike if you talking about being able to max a bike out and stick to speed limit
Hey Awesome video mate, hello from Australia, I've been riding motorbikes on the road since I was 16 (currently 21) I started on an r3 and moved up to an r7 because my r3 got stolen, the r1 has been my dream bike for awhile and I am 185cms and feel like I got the experience to be sensible, do you think I should go for my dream bike or something else like a ninja zx6r, I did get the chance to test ride a 2023 ninja zx6r which was pretty fun, But I'm torn between the 2 bikes because the r1 has been my dream bike since I started riding
Great question!
Personally, I cannot advice you on that choice. The mind says that the ZX6R is more than enough. The heart says go for the R1. Really up to you mate.
The power can’t be toned down?? How about your right hand on the throttle
I am talking about folks who are starting out mate. Folks who have never been on a motorcycle.
Bad ass bike 💪🏻💪🏻
You bet!
If i ever go for a liter bike and move up from 600’s im either getting an R1 or RSV4
If you got a 600, honestly, you do not need to move up! You got the best bike already.
@@KrishnenduKes 600 Is boring and slow you'll feel the weakness of it on the highway
@@mutsivi3712 I feel it neither boring nor slow. Especially on the tracks that I go to.
Sounds like a smooth car engine 😊
Meanwhile i am considering to buy my next motorbike and still can’t decide between Fireblade RRR and Ducati V4R 😅😅
Very different motorcycles. Depending upon the location, I could go with either.
@@KrishnenduKes now this is an interesting question, never been asked before about locations regarding motorcycles, but i am really looking forward to hear your advice, i live in Bahrain, yeah a lot of ppl have no clue where it is but it is known for those who follow F1 races.
Dam I gotta re watch so I can stay disciplined 😭
I owned an ZX14. An R1 is not enough motorcycle. ❤
Depends on what you want to do. I have ridden all these motorcycles over the past two decades over significant distances.
R1 may be better overall on turns. I think it has a shorter wheel base. The ZX14 is hands down an absolute monster on straight aways 😎
@@1bizjets No disputing that at all. Only bike that will beat the ZX14 on a straight line will be another Kawasaki.
I sold my 2006 zx14 a few years ago. Now I'm seriously considering the R1 or a naked R9. I just like performace.
@@1bizjets What is a naked R9? Are you talking about the BMW?
Crossplane symphony to the ears 🤌
Would definitely get the MT-10, maybe the R1 if I come into some money. Liked the video, but That was a horrible sound test LOL.
Thanks for your comment. Let me know which bike you end up getting. I love the MT as well.
I had a Honda 600cc as a Practice bike..after one year I bought the YamahaR1 big difference😂 it felt much better and felt like a jet.
I'm still buying one
That's okay. I bought one too. It is my 4th R1 in my lifetime.
My reasoning: I want a crossplane
Fair reasoning. And they are about to get obsolete!
@@KrishnenduKes This is my last chance to get Legal MotoGP bike on the street
@@RedRanger-b7m Go get it mate!
@@KrishnenduKes Any other pass recall history or common problem with R1 that I should be watching out for mate?
I'm currently on GSXR 600 K6 and I had to move the rectifier out from behind the radioator to somewhere cooler.
@@RedRanger-b7m Interesting problem. From memory, Yamaha has had no recalls on any of their street bikes in the past 3 years. Honda has had small recall issues on 2 of their dirt bikes. If there is a recall, we cannot sell those bikes anymore till we have the replacement parts.
Das war ein sehr vernünftiges Videos, da die 1000 ccm und die Leistung eigentlich von niemandem auf öffentlicher Straße benötigt wird. 😊
At good skydiving clubs the current senior guys will advise you about high performance canopies...for the individual biker,that doesn't belong to a serious club ...it's at your own peril 😂😂😂😂...good luck?
Do you plan to take the R1 on track?
I will take that as a rhetorical question. Lol.
Think I can go from my CRF250F to a R1?
Good question. You have to sit on one to actually figure it out if you want to ride a bike in that posture. Very different from a CRF.
I dont think a 1000cc is over kill if you been ridin alomg time. An you get alot more tech with 1000ccs your not getting on 600s. Maybe some on the newer r7s or gsx 8r. I personally had higher hopes for the r7 but it just didnt have enough ass an the brakes were horrible. I think i might get the gsx 8r tho they seem to being doung good. Have to test drive one.
40+ years of riding. More than half a million kilometres of street bikes. I believe that a 1000cc is overkill. I do not need an R1.
Also, the R7 is not a Supersports motor. It is the motor of an MT07. No reason for it to ride like a Supersports.
Man get what you want just respect the machine because these 1000cc bikes aren’t forgiving
@@Bigtank1012 Exactly! Thanks for your comment.
My BMW S1000RR is very forgiving once you stay below 150km/hr. Also my Ducati Panigale v2 is pretty stable but that is only a 955cc.
Good Advice.
Thank you 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Plz suggest me a 4 cylinder bike,i ride an yamaha R3 and want a second bike and that should be Japanese...am from westbengal, india...ride mostly in city and occasional highway s? And probably this would b my 1st and last inline4,plz suggest me...plz..
Sorry for replying this late. Get an inline 4 that you like. They are all really good!
@@KrishnenduKes thank you 😊
@@anirbanghosh5066 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽
thinking about the R9 if it hopfully come out or maybe the mt09 sp
The R9 rumours may be true. The MT09 SP is a great bike. I have owned the MT09 for 4+ years. Loved it!
Do not buy this bike if you're going to leave the fender on...
Possible Second bike? I got a 400 but ive ridden 600s
Possible. As long as you are careful.
Can you get saddle bags for the r1?
On my older R1s, I used to use saddlebags from a French company called Bagster. I bought them in Lyon, France way back in 2006 with heat shields, (underseat exhausts), and used them for over 60K Kms (40K Miles) on the R1.
Why to buy 2stroke over 4stroke ?
how is it for tall rider.. 193cm?
Good question. Tough to say. You should sit on one and find out. If you like sports bikes, you will enjoy.
I prefer the 04 to 07 model, I was heartbroken when they changed to a cross plane crank and made it sound like a V twin.
There are a lot of folks like you who rue the fact that Yamaha moved from the regular inline four to the cross plane crank shaft.
R9 baby!!
I am speculating 2025. Another 6 months or so we should start seeing the actual bodywork and some numbers.
I got an R1 as my first bike with no prior motorcycle experience as long as you take your time with it and respect the motorcycle as my grandfather told me you ride like lightning you’re gonna crash like thunder. It is overkill though lol you’re right about that to the tee it’s extremely overkill.
I always tell newbies to start on nakeds, those are great bikes bc theyre comfy and really easy to turn without all the mental distractions of uncomfortable ergos and harder slow speed turns
@@triyo1089 if I could do it over I’d probably would’ve started on a naked
I’m 165cm and I’m 5”5
If you are a good rider, it will feel tall but you should be okay.
Might just be too tall of a bike for me… could lower it
Understandable. But you putting fear in people who are beginners.! I started of on a zx14r stretched lower fbo.! Its all about response and confidence and respecting the bike. Just because you was scared and didn’t start off on a 1k cc bike don’t discourage others.!
I sell motorcycles for a living. I will not sell a 14R or a litre bike to a beginner. I have to sleep at night. Not all people are like you.
I have been riding for 45+ years. I prefer to err on the cautious side.
Dont get a grom as beginner start with 300 or 600
I would not sell a 600 to a beginner. 650 maybe but not a 600.