The fact that his argument changed from Laibach's "overidentification" to the "minimal element" within Rammstein, even though Laibach and Rammstein perform the same type of stage persona, suggests he maybe didn't know what he was talking about in these early years.
A similar observation can be made of Verhoeven's Starship Troopers (the sort of film that a fascist society would make), which is why it is brilliant satire, too. Laibach, however, turned the ambiguity up to 11
It's strange how Zizek puts into words the obvious, and somehow struggles with it, because the obvious is so... untangible, strange, weird. Easy to understand, intuitively, but hard to explain. Points to Zizek for trying :)
I think a big part of laibacs image is a german or germanised slovenia and slovenians, which was scary for the socialist yugoslavia and partizans. Trbovlje where the band started is very influenced by german culture as is most of slovenia. Most of there songs are in german and their name is literally the germinised word for ljubljana. This is rarely mentioned by anyone outside of slovenia.
That's a whole lot of words to say nothing at all. I don't think my problem is with whether or not Laibach are fascists as much as fascists believe that Laibach are fascists.
The conceit is to seduce the audience with symbols and motifs of politics that horrify , the problem arises when the audience thins out as their seduction and disgust can no longer co -exist , leaving only members of the audience who are worryingly comfortable with wot they see and hear , worse still , perhaps even unquestioning of wot they see and hear , at that point every body in the room has lost
"We are even your future" and that's true
The fact that his argument changed from Laibach's "overidentification" to the "minimal element" within Rammstein, even though Laibach and Rammstein perform the same type of stage persona, suggests he maybe didn't know what he was talking about in these early years.
This is by far the greatest compilation of clips on Laibach to be found on the web!
A similar observation can be made of Verhoeven's Starship Troopers (the sort of film that a fascist society would make), which is why it is brilliant satire, too. Laibach, however, turned the ambiguity up to 11
It's strange how Zizek puts into words the obvious, and somehow struggles with it, because the obvious is so... untangible, strange, weird. Easy to understand, intuitively, but hard to explain. Points to Zizek for trying :)
9:43 Red Flood reference
I think a big part of laibacs image is a german or germanised slovenia and slovenians, which was scary for the socialist yugoslavia and partizans. Trbovlje where the band started is very influenced by german culture as is most of slovenia. Most of there songs are in german and their name is literally the germinised word for ljubljana. This is rarely mentioned by anyone outside of slovenia.
8:47 This guy's great
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hello can someone tell the name of the last man being interviewed? tnx :)
Hey, the very last man you see is Ivan Novak, member of Laibach itself.
@@cameraad7038 What a creep!
Why do you think that? @@fiber04
@@fiber04 Creep? Genius actually.
You don't get it.
Adirtii
Resistance is futile....
That's a whole lot of words to say nothing at all.
I don't think my problem is with whether or not Laibach are fascists as much as fascists believe that Laibach are fascists.
Go to desert
To me Laibach are the musical equivalent of ah horror movie
The conceit is to seduce the audience with symbols and motifs of politics that horrify , the problem arises when the audience thins out as their seduction and disgust can no longer co -exist , leaving only members of the audience who are worryingly comfortable with wot they see and hear , worse still , perhaps even unquestioning of wot they see and hear , at that point every body in the room has lost
In other wurds Laibach are just looking for attention