My dumb purchase! Buying a farm trailer v/s utility trailer SAVE YOUR $$
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- My dumb purchase! Buying a farm trailer v/s utility trailer SAVE YOUR $$ Come along with me today as we discuss choosing the right trailer for your equipment. Spending money on equipment you don't need seems silly....here's what I've learned! Floe trailer I Like: shorturl.at/gwHR1
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You are spot on about owning the big trailers. Not only the cost of the trailer, but the cost of a heavy duty truck to pull it. Not worth it.
Big trailers are great if you need them. Big farmers or a business like an O&G company, excavating company, etc…. But yes, most of us have no need for a heavy duty, steel deck, goose neck trailer.
….especially one that is only rated for 15,000lbs
@@HarrisonCountyStudio yeah i agree on the weight of that one, but if you move a substantial ammount of round bales a gooseneck is more economical than round bale wagons or a large ammount of equipment frequently
Great advice. My tractor has left the property twice in 4 years. Had a tow truck move it one time, and the dealership picked it up the other.
Food for thought. I put a treated wood deck on my trailer back in 2001. I took a cheap broom and brushed in diesel fuel on both sides of the lumber. When I drop it I put it at an angle. The water beads up and runs down. I have no rot or even cracks.
I use old motor oil cut with diesel and paint it on with a old broom every few years. The decks will last a lifetime but they do get slick in the rain.
Don from Floe left a lasting impression from his interaction with Dirt Monkey. Guess he finally sees the value of youtubers.
the back story on that is that Don thought Stan was trying to sell him something, and he questioned it. He had no idea who Stan was...and Stan just shoved a camera in his face.....I get it for sure...now we're all good friends!
YOU ARE RIGHT JOSH, WE ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THE LONG RUN.
I agree with buying a deckover. In our area it would be hard to find someone to haul your equipment for $100 but the cost of trailers have gone crazy. I have a buddy who i leave use my cattle trailer for free if i can use his gooseneck trailer for free. It's a win for both of us
I guess I'm pretty blessed...I have a guy with a roll back that will haul most anything 50 miles for $100-200 bucks
@StoneyRidgeFarmer you would need to do a lot of hauling to pay for a pickup and trailer if you can hire someone for that price for sure.
Trailers hardly depreciate. I bought mine before covid and its almost doubled in price to buy a new one. I dont use it in salt so itll last forever. I got a deckover tilt bumper pull. Its so versatile. I dont need to haul a tractor tho. Just a skid steer.
😊 I agree with all you say about trailers. They're a pain in the butt. The downside on aluminum as they can corrode like crazy almost as bad as rust when they get salt around them in addition after a while they can crack from stress failure from the constant bending . There were some semis that had aluminum frames to cut down on weight and they would fail after a while. Probably not while you own it for very long to worry about. The Torsion axles are great until the rubber torsion part goes out. Then the axle generally has to be scrapped . If they are expensive enough you can find some places that will take the rubber out and put in a new section but it's only worth it on a very expensive axle. Going out is basically like the spring is gone for that wheel and it will slump on that side. That comes from hitting curbs and things. I would certainly use a oil type product like fluid film and others that are better under the trailer in places that can corrode or rust and places where the aluminum is placed over other pieces and water can get in overtime because that's where the corrosion will start and become as bad as any rusted Stihl part on a normal trailer. I'm happy for you on that trailer and I think it's going to work out great for most of the things you are doing and that makes it a good decision in my mind. Thanks for all the good input and also the prices of things out there helps out knowing if it's affordable for someone.
Love your videos. We have a small farm in upstate NY.
Would love to know what you really do for a living though! You’ve more equipment than any hobby farmer I know. LOL
made a video about it about 2 months ago for you, here's a link: ua-cam.com/video/jkupcoZb6ag/v-deo.html
I have used my Floe CargoMax 73”x13’ for 2 years and it has been the easiest trailer to upkeep, tow, hitch and move around by hand. Loading ramp is probably only area I wish were improved to accommodate smaller wheels, and maybe a metal surface somewhere for winch/spare/tool box.
Your Right 👍
I always love your videos. I have a 14’ trailer with ramp that I use a fair amount. Great advice on considering the cost and use! Well done!
Incidentally we drove from Florida through the Carolina’s to Pennsylvania last month chasing fall colors ip in New England. I grew up in northern Minnesota and miss the fall colors since I live in Texas. All the best from north Texas.
Words of wisdom! 👍
Wise advice. I have 4 trailers and primarily use my 12’ utility trailer. Tim in northern TN
worked out that I have able too store my wooden floored metal 5 x 10 trailor in my work shop for 20 years and it has never needed any maintenance . I'm was lucky I've had the room too do so ...😁
Hope you are feeling better and once again, great video that everyone can learn from.
Feeling much better!!
Awesome as always
Thank you so much 😀
WOW!!!! Thx for doing this video. I learned a lot! Thank you! Thank you! HSTL ZONE 6 ❤
I use your sell solution on more things than just trailers. I sell things that are no longer being used including a fixer upper car that sat in my yard for 3 years. Who wants to look at a purchase mistake for years? You've mentioned that crapping red car many times and it obviously is causing you some distress. Sell it now, take the loss and move on.
Just a friendly suggestion- love your channel Josh
The composit is nice. And I am from the cut of you pay what you play so thanks for the heads up on that one. 🍻
Haven got to the point of needing a gooseneck yet but am used to 5th wheels. Thing is, a good brush hauler even with fold down sides can do all. Well, might not be the best for dump but damn. It's a great overall solution. Only perfect tool is the one that works for the job at hand. And seeing how we need the jack of all trades and master of none, there is an option. Have an eye on a jd but can't say I'm fond of em. They are to equipment what Jayco is to RVs..
Texas pride is more of something that actually works and can do most all for the long haul.
As always to each their own for what they need and can afford. Just saying if you are going to compare things don't put a toy hauler up against farm equipment because neither is a nice fit. There are rigs that can do both just fine and then some.
I own 6 trailers. 3 large pintle hitch 24’ deck overs that I use to haul my tractors, 3ph equipment, various trucks, hay. My other 3 trailers are small utility trailers 5x8, 6x10 & an enclosed cargo trailer 7x14. I’m always loaning out a large trailer to one of nephews to haul one of their projects. I use my 5x8 utility trailer alot for hauling my 4 wheeler & side by side or to pack gear in for a weekend camping trip. I wouldn’t give up any of my big trailers bc I can always put a small load on me of them but o can’t put an extremely large load on one of my small trailers. Having a large heavy duty trailer is essential on a working farm, you don’t necessarily have to have a gooseneck but a a good 16,000lb deck over pintle is more than capable.
A+ Good Advice (!!)
Trailers are tricky. There's so many variables in the buy vs contract it out matrix. Generally speaking a utility trailer is always a solid choice as they're just so dang flexible. The older I get, the less I'm interested in loading stuff into the bed of a truck vs onto a lower deck trailer. If I have the option of trailer brakes, I'll take them every single time. That's one option I always will go for.
I agree!
That big trailer is kind of like a boat or RV for most people - better to rent than buy, once you look at the total cost of ownership vs cost of renting / hiring it done when you actually need it. For this homeowner, I have one of those Lowe's utility trailers, the 4' x 6' model. I put some 1/4" plywood sides on it with 2x2 edge banding. I tow it behind my hybrid SUV when I need truck like capability (hauling bark in, yard debris out, etc). Otherwise, I get 40 MPG doing the daily drive. Right financial choice for me.
Funny - I've got a brand-new trailer sitting - for over 2 years now! - and now that you brought it up, I'm gonna sell it! It's there for the "just in case" I need to haul my tractor to the dealer.
exactly!!!
Dump trailer are the Swiss Army knife of trailers I think they are awesome,
I have a 6 year old utility trailer from Tractor Supply to haul my mowers and my ATV. I put water seal on the boards once a year, touch up the paint with Rustoleum flat black, and grease the hinges. Still looks new and cost me $750. I pull it with my truck, my ATV, or my Johne Deer 425. I don't need a $5000 plastic and aluminum trailer. My other trailer is a 20 ft equipment trailer that i can use to haul my subcompact tractor and attachments. Two trailers that haul everything i own .
man, check the pricing now!! Crazy!! Now.....nobody said you need a nicer trailer....all we're saying here is don't waste money on something you'll use very little...better to hire it done
Just a thought Josh you'd probably be time ahead to take those fenders off and just replace the new ones. They used to be pretty cheap and maybe if you ever got to Northern Indiana you could go buy up a bunch of surplus stuff from the trailer manufacturers. They look pretty and really every way better for your time.
You can use Loctite naval jelly rust dissolver.
Yupper. Buying a deckover is the way to go for farmers. PS. Please forward me the number of the deckover guy who'll haul for 100 bucks. 🙂
You will also need a class 1 license. That not as easy to get as it used too be.
Josh I coat my trailers with sump oil I only have rust when I'm not using it alot
Good advice here! It’s easier to call up dealership to come snag my tractor than buying a truck and trailer to do it.
I have little 4willer trailer like yours that I use all the time!!
Only trailer I’m interested in is a 12’-14’ dump trailer for hauling logs, firewood or rock/gravel with GVWR of 14k.
amen!!
Id love that foxbody lol
i have a 40 ft goosesneck with dual tandem axles and pull it with my 1999 F250 with no problem. i haul my tractors, implements and lots of hay on it. it works great for the farm use. cant sit around and depend on someone else to come and move my stuff when i need it moved. i do agree that a car hauler is not the right trailer for what we do on the farms.
you must be moving your machines more often than I am
yeah, especially during hay baling season, i am not fortunate enough to have all my property together....its in 4 different locations, plus i do some custom baling for friends and neighbors.
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If you were making hay like we do gooseneck trailer r essential we have two and couldn't work with out them from moving equipment to hay there used daily
I bought a trailer specifically made to go with the tractor and its implements. Works well for other purposes too.
how many times per year do you use it? That's the old "tractor dealer sales tactic" getting you all set up with everything you don't need lol
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I actually use it a lot for other things. I have taken the tractor to the dealer a couple times for warranty work. They are far enough away that the cost for transport is too much for my preference. The trailer has more than paid for itself already, and is all gravy for me now.
Josh, also have to consider the weights you're pulling. If your combined gross vehicle weight goes over 26,000 lbs, you have to have a CDL to pull it. That 5.9L in your Dodge will pull more than you can believe, the weakest link is your transmission on those. You could take that ol' gooseneck to a trailer shop and have some 9K lb axles under it and tow all day with your truck. But again, watch your weights in case you get pulled over. Like you, I have a '98 Dodge (Dually though) and I too, will be buried in my truck!
Don't forget about the agricultural use exemption.
food for thought, over 26,000 total gvw, requires a cdl in most states.
This. In pa, over 10000gvw on a trailer requires dot inspection and some other hoops to go through.
All true info!! But, around here, just to get the dealer to take my tractor round trip for a servicing is more like a $350-$400 charge.... and it's only 20-25 minutes away. So....Your Mileage May Vary!!
find a local guy with a roll back my friend...that's what I did and all my neighbors now use him
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer That is a fair response! I’ll keep my eye open
So are you buying a deck over soon?
not until we start cutting our own hay
Hey Josh thank you for the video information good 2 no woo
Any time!
Simply put: if you are using the trailer frequently, then it's a good investment. It pays for itself. If you end up just using it once a while, it's not a good investment.
I’d happily give you $5,000 for that today! 😂
Owning your own trailer
Please take our rain from Scotland. It's been raining every damn day for the past few weeks - if it keeps it up, I'll get webbed toes!
shew....we'd sure like some!
I wish! It's still raining! At least our lake is full - but then so is the yard and the area behind the house and every tractor rut is now an elongated pond. Walking in the woods reminds me of the rainy season in the Borneo jungle when I was in the military, except it's not warm and the critters don't try to eat you! @@StoneyRidgeFarmer
Josh , I am not disagreeing with you Aluminum is great But I worked for and retired from ALCOA !!! Aluminum does not rust persay but it does oxidase and that can cause welds to fail and it will in time cause the mechanical property's of the Aluminum to degrade !!! Look at 60's and 70's aluminum mag wheels ! Even airlines have to be replaced and salt is very hard on aluminum ! Still much better than rusty , ugly steel !
yessir...makes sense!
I agree with everybody else about the aluminum and for you unless you're close to the coast and getting sold their it should not be an issue from the ocean. But if they use salt on the roads that's way worse. I worked at a water plant with aluminum and they coated it or anodized it to keep it from corroding but even then any cut portion of it that exposed the pyramidal corroded like crazy. It's too late on your trailer right now to paint over the rust but when you're dealing with starring trailers outside you need to try the oil, and french fryer oil combo that will set up on it and soak in. Even better if you have a lot of money go out and get Marvel Mystery Oil because it will soak in to aluminum that is corroded and create a coating on top that isn't all oily after a while I use it on my Toyota and it was absolutely wonderful and would be also on regular metal. I would say any trailer that sits out you should spray it down with the oil to keep all the crevices from rusting and starting rest between the weld. For your rusty trailers do-it-yourself cheap is to use phosphoric acid and some water to dilute it and spray that on the rust and it will convert some of it to iron phosphate. Where are the rest is crested thick you'll have to beat it with a hammer to get the rust to fall out and then you can spray the phosphoric acid in there to try to convert it. All this is best done in the dry summertime. After it's Rusty underneath you can spray it with fluid film or other like products. April last year or more and prevent rust as it is a lanolin based oil product. Anything else in the salt when you spray it over with paint just allows the rust to come back out again after working its way under the paint. Hope this helps
Happy trailers to you
Hey Josh, good video!
Buying the wrong trailer is all behind you now! LOL
I couldn't resist! LOL
Have a great day!
You should spray paint u. Trailer!! Ir just paint it this winter when your bored.
bhahahahhahaha.....Bored? Are ya crazy bhahhaha
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thanks buddy!
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I’d buy your gooseneck as is.
I don't know u can't get a tractor or car haul in tn try about 300 for 5 miles
I've established a relationship with my local tow company, we use them about 5 times a year and put machines on a rollback
How much do you want for it?
I just couldn’t buy a plastic trailer. I got a 5x10 shop built utility thats 30 yrs old. A 20’ JP custom built utility skid steer hauler with removable sides all LED. a can of krylon every few years keeps them going.
there's a difference between "plastic" and specialized formulated polymer for a trailer like this. It will never rot, rust dent, need paint, replacement and it's super light weight. It's all about functionality...this is the lightest and nicest utility trailer I've ever owned....and we don't have to spray paint it my friend..super happy with my choice....it can sit outside for 40 years and only the tires will dryrot
How much for the Fox Body?
lol...exactly what I paid...$3500
I used to walk by the news ones on the lot way back after school and thought they were ugly then. It stuck with me.
Was hear
buy a used rollback.......save you lots in the long run lol
A steel deck trailer are terrible if you are hauling something with metal tracks it will slip and slide something fearce
we wouldn't be hauling anything with metal tracks on it brother....I'm sure that would also be way over weight
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer personal experience with truck with steel deck
hauling fancy roof top commercial Heat pump i was going to strap down my Boss told me not necessary not going that far or fat as we were in town
drove slow and tried to be extra cautious when turning on to shop street dam thing slid off and landed on its coil surface if it weren't for my Boss being behind me to witness
the main Boss (, Brothers) would most likely terminated me as i was relatively a new employee
also watched others loading trailers with steel deck skid loader and excavators metal on metal hard to keep secure or even load and unload
some will lay planks down just to provide traction
$5500 for an all aluminum trailer is the waste of money, you can buy 3 matching size all steel trailers, that’s 15 -20 years worth of trailers with zero maintenance, you can stretch that life to 50 years with a little maintenance every few years, a little grease a few cans of Krylon, that goose kneck will last long enough to haul your casket to the farm !!
$3k for this one at Lowes which isn't 1/4 the trailer the floe is my brother www.lowes.com/pd/Carry-On-Trailer-6-ft-x-12-ft-Treated-Lumber-Utility-Trailer-with-Ramp-Gate/3471121
To each his own opinion my friend.....but you'd better check your trailer prices....money doesn't go very far nowadays! as for 50 years out of a cheap steel cargo trailer vs a high quality trailer like floe builds....I'd beg to differ my brother. As for the goose neck...sure it will last....and sure we could krylon a trailer every other year, but what I'm saying is why waste the money when you're not hauling equipment that much, and....a farm needs a deckover trailer not a low boy like this one. The floe trailer is totally awesome buddy.....and will hold it's value better than any other utility trailer out there
Dude, you have to spray those utility trailers with Rustoleum at least once a year. It's really not a big deal.
Or fluid film… that stuff is an amazing metal protectant.
paying $10k for a trailer and having to spray paint it every year seems a little silly doesn't it? I get it with the small trailer....but again...with the gooseneck we're talking about a pain in the butt
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I was talking about the little trailer
Hey hey first comment
Wooooo!!!
rust happens when you buy things you don't need.
lol....rust happens whether it's things you need or not my brother....just drive down the road and look at all the Chevy trucks lol
I didn’t elaborate on what I was trying to say. I don’t disagree with you. I was trying to say things we don’t need rust away because we don’t do the upkeep on them. When we take precautions to prevent rust things don’t rust. I was only trying to add to your point.
Im pretty sure that isn't what causes rust.