THAT 90S SHOW ISN'T THAT 70S SHOW
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- That 90s Show is back with a second season and less familiar faces from the first show.
No Fez , No Eric , No Kelso , No Jackie , and obviously no Hyde.
But at least we still have Donna , Bob , Kitty , Red , Mitch , and Leo.
In all seriousness, this season provides audiences with a look into the lives of it's leads.
Leia , Jay , Nate , Nikki , Gwen , and Ozzie .
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It's not representative of the 90s at all. It's what Gen Z thinks the 90s were like.
Yeah think everything is woke when it wasn't.
Exactly
@@ElAssoWipe-oyeah I remember people saying the word gay all the time even girls. It was the exact opposite of today even some of the slang and references aren’t from the 90’s
I watched the first few episodes. The lack of 90s butt metal and grunge, the lack of gothic aesthetics, and the lack of Japanimation influence makes it feel so disconnected to real life 90s.
In general, I knew "That 90's Show" couldn't be all that great given the fact that in _todays society_ they would never show the way the 90's actually was.
Exactly, they had to woke it up.
@@EddieHenderson92yup, what a waste of a fun concept.
Yeah... the 90s were wild and I miss it.
@@EddieHenderson92We didn't give a crap about virtue signaling: half of the 90s sitcoms were with a bIack cast with diverse audience, 70% of music was bIack featuring a white, Asian and Gloria Estefan and Ru Paul was at the top of the charts, metalheads didn't invade gothic's place and grunge teens were closer to indie nerdy kids and we really never gave a f-, it was *organic.*
I remember I had the luck to be able to curse at W. Bush AND Al Gore without being accused of anything.
That 70's show: Adults playing teens(except for Mila)
That 90's show: Nickelodeon
What's wrong with this show the most is it doesn't feel like the 90s as someone who's old enough to remember the 90s and has watched all 90s media it doesn't feel like the 90s the earlier seasons of that 70s show captured the vibe of The 70s perfectly the pure nostalgia of it all this just feels sanitized
I’m 34 so it was obvious
Are you old enough to remember the 70’s or is that what you think it was like? I graduated in 98 and it doesn’t feel like the 90’s to me.
That’s what I always got the vibe of from that 90s show. Like Gen Z version of what 90s would be.
It doesn’t feel like the 90s at all lol. And I was a teenager then.
@@SJ-ni6iy no I was not born in the 70s my point is that's 70s show made me feel nostalgic for a time gone buy cause it was able to capture the pure nostalgia of that era that 90s show feels like Disney channel presents the 90s it feels like the person who made it was born in 98
Just based off the way it looks, It looks like a standard Tween sitcom from Nickelodeon or Disney
Word great opinion from someone who never watched it thank you!
It doesn't really even feel like the 90s tbh
Spice Girls came out in 1997, not 1996
@@marcohavokkhaosactually they came out in 1994 their debut album “spice” was released july of 1996 and went #1 in 37 countries in 1996 it hit number 1 in the u.s. feb of 1997 ..their next album spice world was released in 1997 .. so its not too farfetched to have them mentioned in the show
@@marcohavokkhaos Wannabe came out in 96
I was their age in the 90’s and I think they nailed it.
@@MarkBanegas Nailed what? this is Gen-Z woke trash.
A black Abercrombie and Fitch model? Yea, right.
It felt like disney channel show
I agree, complete with sex and drugs references. It might be understandable, since some of the young actors have appeared on Disney and Nickelodeon shows in the past.
Right down to the wokeness.
@@ElAssoWipe-ohere we go....
@@purplepulpinc.8504LMFAOOO
@@ElAssoWipe-o Very true
At the end of the season it just felt like nothing actually happened
The thing that made that 70s Show work is the show started and the auidence was thrown right into an average day for the cast.
It can gets so annoying when a sitcom starts and you have to deal with everyone getting to know each other.
I honestly think that’s why some drama shows work more than a show like this because a lot of times you’re just thrown in, people have their own lives and you learn names in a way that feels organic but not forced
I enjoyed the first season but I agree the second season did a drop. They also mentioned an unseen Spring Break visit.
Seconded, they seem to be relying less on the original cast, but it would have been nice if they had been mentioned more, albeit briefly.
@@trinaqexactly like what ever happened with fez and his “true love” I thought they would’ve went more on that after season one. I guess budget is down ?
The fact that Leia visited during spring break also makes the whole drama from the first few episodes make no sense. The show wants us to believe that Nate and Leia being around each other makes them feel so guilty that they can't act normal or keep the secret for more than a few days but they were fine during spring break and didn't talk about it at all?
Jay and silent bob were the chech and chong of the 90s imo
Some people say it was Beavis and Butt-head. (Not because of the drug use) but because the 90’s was a rebellious era. Almost everyone mention Beavis and Butt-head in all shows and movies. No one really talked about clerks like that.
It says a lot that a new season is already here and wasn't talked about enough. I didn't even knew until I saw this video.
Honestly, the big problem is this doesn't feel like the 90s at all, it just seems like a typical Gen Snowflake CW network show.
calling people snowflakes while getting mad at a tv show is peak hypocrisy
@@zitorya5786 you're inferring that he was mad, maybe he was simply disappointed.
@@zitorya5786 Who's getting mad?
this is just trash.
Red and Kitty are the best part of the show. Kurtwood Smith is not in a great shape, he is 81, he sits most of the time but still has that great Red vibes. The actor playing Bob is great but I would like to see more of him. As for rest ... well it could be worse. Some good cameos. 5 out of 10. The first season was close to 6.5 out of 10
Ozzie is the best.
Season one was slightly better. I say 1 was 7/10 and season 2 was 6/10
@@marcohavokkhaos I would say the actor is good, I like the character but he does not appear to mingle well with the rest. In my opinion the show creators don't have a good idea what to do with him
16:04 Its feels like they have too put in these 90s references to constantly remind the viewers that its set in the 90s when That 70s Show didn't need to do that.
Uh... they made constant 70s references what are you talking about?
i heard danny masterston was supposed to do a cameo in season 2 but had some sort of scheduling conflict.
Maybe season 20?
@@capeto08only with good behavior.
He was too busy getting FRAMED for a crime that had no evidence for.
The fact that you N@zis support someone getting 30 YEARS for something that features NO EVIDENCE for just goes to show that woke people are in fact N@zis.
@@ElAssoWipe-o we all know it was Jackie's drugs
Thanks for the review, Vee. This season felt all over the place, though the young actors seemed more comfortable in their roles. As always, Red and Kitty were the best parts, and I liked seeing Bob and Donna pop up. I was sad that Sherri was sidelined, as I liked her relationship with Fez.
Sherri was there, and it was Fez who wasn't
Ozzie is definitely the best part. The adults aren't funny anymore
I did like Kevin Smith and Jason Mewes popping up, though it was a contradiction to the previous "Clerks" reference. And they should have let the music/movie references speak for themselves, as opposed to throwing in a forced punchline. Plus, "Romeo and Juliet" was released in November 1996, five months after the season is set.
They weren’t Jay and Silent Bob though.
I had high hopes for this show when season one came out. But as I re-watched, then tuned in to the second season... I noticed something was off. I'm not sure if it's because they're too squeaky clean, or the jokes don't hit the same. It's missing SOMETHING
I thought it would have been less on the nose if Leia was her middle name. Like Eric gets mad and yells "Michelle Leia Forman!" Or something like that, feel free to imagine your own first name for her. Feel like the original would have done something like that.
As someone who was born in 93 and grew up in the 90s, nothing about the 90s show screams the 90s. I have aubties and uncles thst grew up in the 70s and they tell me that 70s show feels like the 70s. That's saying something
Thats what my mom said, she loved that 70s show, said it was authentic since she was a teen in the 70s. I was a teen in the 90s and feel shafted.
I agree, the 70's setting felt authentic, but the 90's feels more forced, like the 2020's take on what the decade was like.
Idk born in 93 means u were 7 at 2000 so thats pretty young still. I think a 2000s show would be closer. I do agree it wasn't as good as 70s at showing it though.
For many years as a kid [I'm 26 rn] I always just assumed that "That 70s Show" was actually made in the 70s 😂😂
My parents and Aunt loved the show. They grew up in the 70’s. They explained that very thing but they also did say that one thing was off with that 70’s show. It was the slang they would use. It was a bit to reflective of the younger generation that would probably be writing the show.
The thing about Eric and Fez are they both stated that they wanted to do season 2 but they had scheduling conflicts so my guess is they see them next season
Man, Fez isn’t in season 2 at all?he stole every scene he was in with season 1.
@@DeadpoolNegative yeah Wilder Valderrama had scheduling conflicts he had a movie he was shooting while they were filming same as Topher Grace
@@willkuzenka a shame because he looked so jazzed to be playing Fez again in season one
Havent watched Season 2 yet, but I really wanted to take note on a comment you made & I’m in 💯 agreement with. The acting (at least from the kids) is VERY much like something out of a Disney Channel show! I mean, there were some really corny jokes in That 70s Show too, but one of my issues with That 90s Show is that it feels like a Disney Channel series with pot and sex jokes. In theory, it could be funny but it leans more towards the Disney Channel side of things IMO
Part of it may be with That 70's Show, all the kids, other than Mila, were adults. With this show, all the kids are kids. Might be wanting to water it down a little because they're working with underage actors.
You nailed 2 of my problems. The first is that these kids look like kids this time around and are hypersexualized. It's gross.
The second is that there is no depth to any of the relationships whether friend or romantic when it comes to the kids. All of their dialog is setup-punchline-laugh track.
Leo mentioned his son before on That 70's show. When the kids found his old car in his garage, Leo said he was gonna give it his own son before his mom took him and ran off. I'm guessing in the years between they reconnected after he grew up and wanted to find him.
You gotta remember. Each season of that 70s show had like 20 episodes. That 90s show has the unfortuante folley of modern practices, giving us a "full" season at 8 episodes
This "season" is 3 part. The rest they said will be "normal". Lame to call this season 1 a year later
Way too short for a season. You can't get anyone fully invested that way
Folly? Modern practices? Hey now, there's a place called the United Kingdom where seasons have always been that length; and rumor has it they've made some decent television from time to time.
It's even true that a show can make the transition from one to the other in a revival. Most people like the new Frasier, for example. And Degrassi moved in the other direction; I kept calling it "new" Degrassi even though almost all Degrassi is new, since there's as much television in a single season of the new show as in all the old combined. I will say there's probably an art to the change all the same, and maybe the 70s/90s show writers haven't made the conceptual adjustments that needed to be made. I was pretty excited that the streaming paradigm was resulting in crisper-length seasons where that was wanted; but then again, I was also excited about the fact that episodes can now be whatever length the writers think best for the story, and it's pretty clear not all have thrived under this new freedom.
Season 2 is 16 episodes. It’s just split.
You'd think that would mean it would cut down on the amount of filler and give us more meatier content since they have less time to work with, but that hardly seems to be the case.
That 70s show was a nostalgia trip for the 70s. I don't feel like this show is a nostalgia trip for the 90s. There are hardly any satirical references to the 90s. And the ones that do, fall very flat. Even some of the sets look exactly the same. I know they try to play that off as a joke in the first season, but it's been 20 years, that basement is going to have a different layout.
I think its plausible that an unfinished basement would remain the same, especially when Kit and Red became empty nesters. They certainly wouldn't have needed to upgrafe it for more living space. I did hear that the furniture used on the upstairs set was moved to the basememt set.
The problem is they had to woke it up for Gen-Z and they can't show what the 90s were really like.
@@EddieHenderson92true,
Brevity has been this show's undoing. "Season" 1 being only ten episodes released all at once set during a single summer meant that the entire thing felt less like a slice of life sitcom and more like a movie that got padded with vignettes and side stories. Part 2 being 8 episodes that weren't released until more than a year later AND set a year later meant that the first half had to rush to resolve the previous season's cliffhangers before getting into new adventures. The audience hasn't had time to actually sit with these characters and get to know them, half of them still feel one dimensional 18 episodes in because we haven't really had a full season like we would have with a traditional TV show. If it weren't for Red & Kitty, nothing would be grounding these kids.
All young kids in the 90's had gay friends apparently. Sure.
Definitely not that gay outright
I mean who says one kid from the 90s isn’t gay haha
Definitely.
Gay people were invented in 2003
Right! I'm like where did this openly gay kid come from. I'm so over the"forced inclusion". The 90s was not this pro gay era. I don't even remember being around gays growing up.
2nd half of season 2 comes out in October. I hope it picks up, I’ve been enjoying it. Not crazy about it but it’s not terrible.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Haven't seen season two. But the biggest thing counting against what I've seen in season 1 is in that 70s show you can actually believe Kelso and Hide when they threaten eachother but the same sense of danger isn't present in that 90s show. Plus people refusing to apologize shifting the blame and continuing to scheme means the tension can actually go somewhere rather than being deflated. So the narrative holds more weight in that 70s.
The characters buckling so easily could have been an opportunity to switch up the formula and add an insufferable heart warming wrapp up which would be on brand for a 90s sitcom but they didn't actually do that, and lets be honest unless they subverted the hell out of it i wouldn't want them to.
As a 90s kid I’m 35 it’s not a bad show can’t believe it didn’t reference any hip hop no Pac or Big it still references 1970s groups and the clothes they wore wasn’t 90s more like 80s to me!
Leo has mentioned his son before. He tells hyde he has kids when he tells him he's like the son he never had. Also, netflix sucks
Yeah, so for Leo to have a son that he basically has just comes off redundant.
I think the second season is a little bit better because it's trying to be it own thing. Everything will resolve way too quickly but that's kind of the formula of most tv shows nowadays due to only have a like ten episodes.
7:17 I mean another actress played Laurie when Kelly first left the show, they could've just bring that one back to reprise the role.
If there’s anyone who I want to see make a that 70s show retrospective it’s Vee Infusio
Another banger video, thanks friend🤘
Definitely wanna see the full 70s show retrospective!
I have my criticisms as well with season/part 2 some that are similar to what you mentioned. And I feel like a lot of that is because of the more minimal episode season format with this series being on Netflix. The writers are trying to jam story arcs, character development if any into at least with this season into 8 episodes. I really feel like you need the standard amount of episodes in a season to give us something really compelling that allows time for characters to develop further and story arcs have time to breath and have story beats to them.
Season 1 technically just wrapped up. The Ranch had "Part" to each section of episodes, and according to an article I read years ago from Netflix that it takes 2 parts to make a complete season.
leia and jay take a back seat for nikki and nate. but this show does need more episode. but i did like this season. i think fez is busy on ncis
There is still 8 episodes coming out for season 2 in October
Been waiting for this! I enjoyed it but cant lie. Was underwalming. Although still was nice.
Most of the video is complementary to the show. And atleast it's better than Season 8
Leia is my favorite of the kids, with Gwen second and Nate third. The show has problems, but I am really impressed by how much Leia feels like Eric and Donna's kid.
Once they triumphantly bring back Danny Masterson as Hyde, things will get a lot more exciting!
The 70s have arrived. I would love a full retrospective of That 70s show
That '70s show really captured what it was like to be a teenager. The emotions of falling in love and breaking up. Becoming an adult and learning to drive. That '90s show seems to be exclusively about nostalgia. The writing sucks and the actors are not as convincing.
You have to remember that this is a Netflix show, so this kind of makes sense
Given I grew up in the 90’s. It doesn’t feel like it at all. So… they kinda miss that nostalgia bit quite a bit. Hell 95-96 had a lot going on and none is mentioned.
Yesssss do that 70s show I'm so down to watch
Leo did mention having a son in That 70s Show. It was when he asked Hyde to be his dad.
The writers know what happened in that 70’s show but don’t understand why it worked.
It’s the same as so many current sequels and reboots which is one of many reasons why they keep failing.
That 70s show made an effort to feel like the 70s. That 90s show feels like it just happens to be the 90s
That 90s Show to me is like a pre teen Disney channel show
Fez's absence is likely connected to the Danny Masterson court case. Infamously Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis, Debra Jo Rupp, Kurtwood Smith, and Wilmer Valderrama wrote letters to to the court to defend Masterson's character and this news was very upsetting to the public. Debra Jo Rupp and Kurtwood Smith are executive producers so they can protect their roles on the show, but the others are easily written out to avoid controversy.
No. Wilmer is busy on NCIS and other projects so that is unlikely for him. Ashton probably has other stuff going on and a family with Mila so… possibility but not likely.
Man, I hadn’t even heard that the 2nd season came out
I couldnt even finish the pilot
Didn't realize there was a season 2 yet
Most won't remember that 80s show, which was what I immediately thought of when I heard there was going to be a that 90s show
The 70s had arrived
I didn’t know that this was a thing
I like the stuff to do with the cast from that 70s show the most
Can we also bring up the lack of 90s references? No reference to pokemon, something 90's kids were selling their bodies for. There is no reference to Mario party on N64, causing broken friendships or even Super Smash Brothers.
Goldeneye anyone?
I think it would have been so dope them saying they were going to a biggie concert or pac concert
I think the show is around 1995 and 96. N64 barely came out, golden eye came out 1997, pokemon 1997, mario party 1998 and smash 1999.
Won't ruin my pallet watching this show
I enjoyed it
I honestly feel like nothing is ever as good as the original. I just could not get into this show. I was a big That 70’s show fan. Maybe I am just being biased? Anyhow, great coverage Vinny! It is always great to have someone stimulate my intellect 😂
I had no clue they even made a 2nd season
The season isn’t over yet. They are releasing the second half of season 2 on October 24th.
The show is woke so already sucks.
As a child of the 90s I find it funny how that 70s show felt far, far more 90s then that 90s show even has or could. Cancel it and let it go.
All about the character work 🎉
I enjoyed season 1. Season 2. I'm enioying, but nothing too gripping. I've got the show on as background noise while I cook and eat.
Only bummer so far is we haven’t got the old gang reunite yet (aside from Hyde) if we really do have one more season left , they should at least do that
That 90s show isn't the best show but it has its moments.
the 70s had arrived
We'll have to see how part 2 of Season 2 is like when it airs later in October. Let's hope it's better than what we got.
I’m sad to see that others felt let down by the first part of season 2 as well as I hoping it was just me. The more they focused on the kids, the less interesting/funny the season got which is sad as the first season needed to develop those characters more. Here’s hoping for a huge upswing in the second part of season 2.
The problem is that it tries to be like the 70s show but its not the 70s, its the 90s lol
But when ur a teen summer feels like a lifetime so low key genius
The 70s Had Arrived.
after that snafu with a certain actor i definitely made sure to steer clear
The 70’s have arrived
I feel like this is one of those shows that’s gonna need a while to cook before it can really reach its actual potential. I like it for what it is.
Also to show doesn't have a Hyde. I mean, I all know what Danny did.It was horrible, but what we can't pretend like his character would not be incredible important to the show.
2nd episode of the 2nd season and they ruined the circle by having a real serious moment in the circle. They really don't understand what made that 70s show so great...the circle is to break the tension of any serious moment . You don't bring that to the circle
“The 70s have arrived” I still never watched this show or the original. Only the first 1 or 2 of the first season of this show and I just didn’t pay enough attention or care to watch it again. I don’t know if I need to watch 70s show to understand everything but I don’t know if I should sit down and watch either show.
The '70s Had Arrived.
I love the show ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
that 90's show season 2 has been so good so far
Laurie technically isn’t gone cuz she had two actors. Her original passed but her replacement is still alive so we may or may not see her in the future
I was going to watch it but I thought no but thanks' for the review
To be clear Leo does tell Hyde that he has to get back to his family. Funny considering how long Leo was away from his family and never mentioning sooner. I also believe when Leo gives Hyde his car Hyde reminds Leo that he has a son.
I totally Agree really enjoyed the first Season didn't watch the Second season, idk if I'm going to now watching this video
I give it a chance and i love that 70 show 😪
I enjoy that 90s show but yea theres not much continuity which is a shame What I did like we're the references to 90s media which is always fun. (I would love too see your review on that 70s show)
Worse than the first?! The first felt like fever dream Disney sitcom. Damn.
u know theres another part coming out right
That 70s show had a decade of character development. You can't compare it to a couple seasons that are only like 8 episodes long
The 70s have arrived