It drives me crazy that they can’t get the hair right. Instead of the Afro, the neighbor should be in braids, or wearing relaxed hair or an extremely short haircut. She also could wear her hair in an explosion of curls but the hair is longer in that case (think Rachel from “The Craft”, Hillary Banks, or the actress Cree Summer). I am Black Woman who was her age in the 90’s and also into rock and punk music. Afros weren’t on trend even for rebel girls. The Dream guy should have that center part haircut that all the cutties had back then (think Rider Strong, JTT, Devin Sawa & Nick Carter). The “Jakie girl friend” should have just long hair not a mullet. Also, what year does this take place in? There’s a HUGE difference between 1991, 1995 & 1998.
Which would arguably had been a better show. Not many spin-off shows can capture the same magic of the original with a cast trying to fulfill the same roles.
it literally feels like a disney channel type show. people try and defend it and say the kids are young, when forgetting mila herself was 14 when she first played jackie.
Mila was terrible and annoying the first few seasons, take of the nostalgia goggles.. this show is corny.. the original show was corny.. it fine and watchable, not a gem.. but not as bad as you guys say.
I just feel bad for Debra Jo Rupp (Kitty) and Kurtwood Smith (Red). I feel like they’re truly talented actors and they trusted Netflix with essentially their legacy and it feels like their talents are being wasted on this garbage sequel.
My mom was in high school in the 70s and one of my favorite parts of watching that 70s show was her constantly pointing out ‘I had a shirt almost exactly like that!’ ‘Your dad had pants like the ones kelsos wearing from sears’ ‘My mother had those dishes!’ ‘We used to have a coffee table similar to that’ and so on with everything about the show. It was so well researched to get references and aesthetics right. I can’t imagine anyone doing that with this show, it looks so generic and blah. But, the last couple seasons of that 70s show weren’t very funny either tbh…
I'm an 80's baby, but my parents and grandparents still had a lot of stuff from the 70s. I also noticed a whole lot of stuff that I had seen as a kid. I was blown away by how accurate it was.
Same. And as a 90s kid, I see very little of what it was like then. I wish they would have given these characters real personalities instead of trying to match them to That 70s show counterparts and tried to imbed some of the actual culture at the time. We played Nintendo and rode bikes. We played with Trolls and pretended to be Power Rangers. We made mixtapes and wrote notes folded into origami.
The stupid generic band posters in Gwen's room made me retch. The costuming was terrible, which really just made me scratch my head because the majority of us humans who were alive & around the cast's age at that time can absolutely go into our closets right now & pull out something we wore back then. Those clothes still exist. They're still around. The lack of giving a shit about getting any of it correct was grating.
Yep! I graduated HS in 1996, and I *still* have several pair of my old nice Lucky brand, Silver, and GAP jeans, and a few of my floral sundresses, and countless photos of myself and my peers from our youth.
fr like just because someone can make a show doesnt mean they can make a good show... Where tf is the passion in different arts these days? is it really that hard to sit down for ahwile and come uip with GOOD content? Hell no wtf i could write a better show than that
The clothes are so clearly current clothes trying to look 90s. They should have done like Stranger Things and sourced actual vintage pieces/made items based on real designs from the time.
I was born in 1980, and I didn't think the show was bad at all 🤷♀️ I'm one of those ppl that gets bored with shows easily, too. I cut the cord long before most ppl my age, and orginally relied on Netflix and video games instead of cable TV around 2010. I don't really stick with ongoing series very often, but have tried and failed to get into other reboots like Full House. Not sure why I finished The 90s Show when others hate it, other than I have been sick for the last month so maybe it's just me being weird, but my mom liked it, too.
The problem with Netflix sitcoms is that they not only aren’t in front of a live studio audience but are only like 8 maybe 10 episodes each season, meanwhile a network sitcom would be like 22 episodes a season. This is important because it gives the cast and writers time to build on the characters and also to react and build off the audience. Some of the best moments in classic sitcoms are when you can tell a joke really lands with the audience there is a longer pause, they aren’t just laughing because they were told to, but because it was actually funny.
There were live audiences for this show in particular. They kept the details pretty secretive, but it's been mentioned on more than 1 occasion that they had live audiences. That laugh track though.. ugh...
I understand why they avoided talking about Hyde because of his actor's actions, but I found it strange that they just completely ignored Laurie's existence. I know her actress has passed away and I don't think she should be recast, but they could have at least mentioned her character. They could have said Laurie passed away or moved far away or something. Then what was even weirder was that towards the end of the season, when I had finally accepted that she didn't exist in this universe, Red makes a comment clearly referring to Eric being their second child.
They should’ve just said Laurie ran off with a guy and they haven’t heard from her since, it would’ve been completely in character and it’s weird they just didn’t acknowledge it
The biggest difference is, the characters of that 70's show had a great dynamic, they worked really well together and the kids on that 90's show seemed to be forcing an attempt at that kind of dynamic and anytime you do that it will fail. That's why the interactions with the original cast are so good.
The reason that Netflix doesn’t do sitcoms well, is because Netflix doesn’t allow a show to grow. The second that a show does subpar they cancel the show but on regular television networks, they do allow for a second or third season to her. For example, the office wasn’t popular when it first started, it took a couple seasons before people caught on
Ur literally in my brain!!!!! It’s so crazy these days I truly think we’ve lost a lot of decent shows bc they’re given no chance!! For instance breaking bad was literally almost cancelled but they gave them another chance to just see where it went and it worked!! UGHH
Thank you for bringing in the whole “it doesn’t look like a show but like I’m on the set thing”. Every time I bring that up and it’s annoying quality, people act like I’m crazy
I always say it looks like a stage play or an old BBC or PBS show from the 80s. Like we are there with them and I hate it so much. I want the illusion that it is a movie or show and not look real. It's gross. Lol!
I feel so validated 🥹 I've pushed back on us getting a higher definition TV for a while now because of this. I could never watch TV again and actually enjoy it, because all I'd be fixated on is how much of the immersion is gone and I can see they're actors in makeup on a set.
American TV should do occasional special episodes instead of reboots. Every few years get everyone together for a one-off 90 minute episode, like the UK does with Christmas specials. You get to check in, tie up some ends, have a few laughs or solve a murder, aaand you're done. Leave them wanting more, not cringing.
I could watch that 70's show over & over again. They had a 2nd chance at striking Gold & they totally blew it with that 90s show. Kitty & Red were the best part of the show.
As someone who was actually a teenager in the 90s (graduated HS in ‘97), I was mostly disappointed that they couldn’t even get the 90s ‘vibe’ right. It’s not that hard. But this wasn’t the 90s. This is 2023 in a bad “90s” Halloween costume. Not to mention the bad acting (like Disney shows), the script etc. Idk, I was just 😢 I had high hopes. Edit: love your videos Jaime (my name too!) ❤ :)
I agree with everything but the high hopes part. None of these remakes are ever good. They need to stop mooching off nostalgia and make new shows and movies. It’s so lazy.
I mean, to be fair I doubt they were thinking of their sexcapades when naming their daughter, and instead thinking of names that meant something to them.
@@MadiganinPeach I mean... Emet-Selch is a character that means a lot to me, but if my husband dressed up as him for our "spicy" time I'd never... ever... everrrrrrrrrr call my son Emet, even if the character is important to me.
that 90's show felt like it was written by someone who was told what that 70's show was like by someone who watched that 70's show 20 years ago, and then was told what the 90's was like by someone who experienced the 90's over 20 years ago, then they told someone the information they were given and that person threw the scripts together at the last minute after a binge watch of sex in the city.
follow up comment: hearing that you only made it through 2 episodes, you got to miss how they made leia completely rapey across the season. also, they are making more episodes. **facepalm**
I feel that what made That 70s Show work was there a level of authenticity and it was reflective of that time period from the slang that was used, costume and set design, and the experiences the group had while in That 90s Show they are just joking about random things that were popular in the 90s and focusing too much on the smoking in the basement and the love of the original cast.
I often hate seeing the 90s recreated in shows. It's like they throw all authencity out the window and try to pass off 2010s fashion, jokes, and scenarios as the 90s. Like the fashion should be very similar to the 80s. Seeing that cheap 2010s denim, nothing modeled after the 90s versions of Media play, colorful mcdonalds, or mall madness, no kids with gameboys or huge legos just makes me so sad every time. There were so many 90s sitcoms, it would be so easy to watch saved by the bell once and copy and they'd be far more accurate than whatever this is.
The keg storyline was literally just a copy of one that they did on that 70s show. They found a keg on the street or something I don’t remember. And then realized they didn’t have a tap and they sent Eric sent to buy it. But you don’t have to be over 21 to buy a tap. So he’s all prepared to pretend like he’s 21 when it doesn’t even matter. That was a funny episode.
Yes! That’s all I could think of while watching the pilot episode. I was like I know this show is a ripoff but I didn’t realize it would be THAT much of a ripoff.
It took me just a second to realize no one involved with costuming/hair/make-up had even a passing acquaintance with a teenager in the 90s. What's with the backpacks being responsibly worn on both shoulders?!? Nobody did that. Nobody 2-strapped anything. No one. The second strap on a backpack or on a pair of overalls was completely superfluous.
This is so true! I was in college in the 90s and no matter how heavy my backpack was or how much my right shoulder hurt, there was no way in hell I was using both straps of the backpack LOL!
so true though. the overalls, one strap on, one off. backpack also. the more casual the better. hair had a ton of stuff in it too, whether that be coloured hair mascara, jewels, butterfly clips, coloured elastic bands, mini braids, etc. or, lots of oversized, or mini shirts.
The issue I have with that 90’s show is that the people they chose aren’t the right fit for the characters. That 70’s show the cast they chose were basically the same as the characters they played so it didn’t feel like they were acting. The that 90’s show feels like they are trying too hard because they aren’t a right fit for the characters, so it just feels like they’re acting.
Spot on assessment. Also, as a person that was actually a teenager in the mid 90s, none of the show brings me back. The wardrobe is extremely generic, almost like the showrunners didn't actually grow up in that time.
That's a good way to put it. The clothes are technically accurate -- they did their due diligence -- but they don't feel authentic. I could really say that about the entire show tbh
My husband made me watch this awful show. I don't understand why they keep making all these terrible shows (remakes, spin offs, etc.). There's so many books that could be adapted to movies or shows yet they keep making junk. I knew streaming was going to ruin TV.
They NEED to make it FEEL like the 90’s. And bring in the creativity from That 70’s Show! Dance numbers, group adventures, incorporate more 90’s music (don’t just name drop Sheryl Crow). Ughss I’m rooting for them as my love for the original is so strong. But man, it’s giving NOTHING so far😭
Exactly. And I didn't get the 90's vibe from the actors, they all just seem to me to be modern teens trying to act like what they think 90's teens were like. The girl who plays Leia was ok.
I love Derry Girls! I'm so sad it's over. They did a great job making it feel like the 90s. Pen15 is also another great one at capturing the spirit of its decade. As someone who was an early teen going into the 2000s it is soooo nostalgic for me.
I felt so alone in the relentless cringe experience of watching this on Netflix. You are a torch of compassion in an otherwise dark inert universe. You're doing the lord's work, Jamie, thank you.
I'm SO glad you mentioned the 4kHD look of the show. I hate shows that look "too real", so to speak. It really just adds to the unrealistic factor of a bad show lmao. Also, it's a sitcom-- I don't need to see everyone's pores and laugh lines.
I did watch it and the whole time I kept thinking that the kids looked so young and the whole thing felt like a tween Disney show. The original cast didn't feel like little kids. I initially thought it was because I am just old now but I think you nailed it with the laugh track being like a bad Disney show. At least I am going to blame it on that and not the fact that aging has happened to me.
They are younger, that's why it feels weird. They're age are: 13, 14, 17, 17, 17 and 18. In the original they were all 18 except for Mila Kunis, 'cause she lied saying she was almost 18, when she was actually 14.
No, the 80s and 70s clothing and hair styles just age you like 10 years. They look like teens, that's it... I guess we are way too used to 20 and 20 year olds pretending to be teens and actual teenager look like cradle crawlers aka. babies
If you rewatch that 70s show, it's just as bad. I think my nostalgia clouded my judgment of that show. It's horrible and cheesy lol. And our kids say the cats of that 70s looks really old hahahaha
y’all complaining about how the kids look so young but if they used 20+ actors for the show, y’all would complain abt them not adding actual children lmaoo. make up y’all mind.
I have been having a really hard time lately, I’ve barely been able to sleep and I’m on the verge of tears constantly it seems like. So at the end of the day when I’m looking for some comfort I turn on your videos. I’ve rewatched quite a few I’ve seen before and I can’t tell you what a help it’s been to be able to take even a few moments and laugh at your commentary. I know you may not see this because it’s an older video, but thank you Jamie. Watching your videos is like sitting with a bestfriend and making jokes about “bad” movies. I stumbled across you years ago and I’ve been a pretty avid viewer since but I can’t express how much they’ve really given me comfort lately. I know you struggle with your mental health at times and I truly hope you know that your fan base does love you. I wish I could see you when you come to Orlando, it’s not in my budget at this time lol, but I am so proud of you for making it to this point and I hope I get to see you in the future. Thank you for being you and posting things online for the rest of us to enjoy ❤️
This was the Red and Kitty show. I watched the whole thing and there were some funny moments, but it was mainly the nostalgia from the original show that kept me watching. That "upstairs people" joke really hurt. Red wasn't talking to Donna and Eric, he was talking straight to US! 🤣 The worst part for me was when they introduced Gwen and Nate's mom. She was the worst caricature of a trashy Wisconsinite I've ever seen. (She's actually from Wisconsin and she got her BFA in acting from my alma mater, so I find it extra embarrassing)
Yes, I just sometimes can’t even stomach the way shows and even some movies look now! It’s almost like we’ve landed in an era where everything looks so-real-it’s-fake like all soap operas 😅
even with old shows that are still on now, like grey’s anatomy, i prefer the look of the show when it was still shot i the 2000’s, now it’s too high quality 😭😭 give me that softer look pls
The worst I've seen so far is "The Farm" on Netflix. the show Ashton Kutcher made. it was so hyper realistic looking that while very HD for sure, it was just off-putting to me.
I just went back to pay for the cheaper Netflix, then nothing is in 4k. That’s how it is in my country at least. Maybe there are more 4k shows on the US Netflix but not many in the Swedish version. Not worth $18 a month. I like 4k but it’s not worth that much for me
I’m so glad you covered this. It immediately struck me as girl meets world -then they even did the opening scene of somebody climbing through the window. on top of that, they used the word creeper. I was a teenager in the 90s. I never heard the word creeper until almost 10 years after that.
I loved Girl Meets World. It was exactly what I expected it to be. They don't MAKE shows heavy like Boy Meets world was any more. Gmw was perfect. It made me happy. What else do you need??? Idk. I feel like people expect way too much.
@@Mama_Bear524 duh. Doesn't mean it's immediately horrible. I thought it was done well. It wasn't as cheesey as many kids shows even at its time. And i expected to hate it. So I don't get how anyone does. But that's me.
@@ellecimz6618 idk I’ve watched gmw before bmw and I didn’t like gmw as much especially that autism episode they made it look like a disease and don’t even get me started on the Maya and josh thing it was creepy
@@natalienwozo155 everyone has their own preferences. I mean i think all modern tv is kind of shit honestly if we're going down that route. The charm is gone. The industry is dying. We should all read more. Lol
It felt like a 2023 sitcom and nothing like a 90's sitcom 😪😞 Also this is my first time watching your channel and I love it!!! 👏👏Unlike That 90's Show I was laughing at your punch -lines
Kitty and Red carried the whole series. Donna, Jackie, and Kelso's appearances were fantastic. Kelso's son was correct but it was weird that he was involved so much but neither Jackie nor Kelso were around.
I thought young Kelso seems like someone raised by Michael Kelso without being a copy of him. I also thought Nate's hair was right. I can even buy Nikki (it's a little older than 95, but it's suburban Wisconsin, they're a little behind).
@@origamipein18 in all fairness to the show, Michael and Jackie were only in like 10 minutes of the overall season. Her mom could have had custody during summer or maybe there just wasn't an organic way to bring her up during Jay's scenes. Betsey could be coming in season 2 or at least mentioned in season 2
@@Queueddd Ire didn't say they didn't. They said that this show had characters portraying characters that had no makeup on when it's shown in 4k where you are forced to actually see their makeup. It's an odd contradiction when you can still make shows in lower resolution, especially a 90s show.
I love that you said what you said about 4k and HD ruining sitcoms. I was just talking about this recently. No matter how good the actors/actresses are it feels off and I can't get into the movie or show anymore. Also side note you and nick and relationship goals for real.
I think it's just off TO US, but for those who will grow up with this style it's gonna be their "right style". We're just getting older and the world just keeps changing, that's it.
The first couple of episodes felt like a Disney or Nickelodeon sitcom, with sex and drug references. The new cast seemed to be reading their lines, and didn't gel as well as the original cast had. However, they got more comfortable by the end.
Told my gf this I almost stopped watching but for whatever reason I kept watching. Was it the best show I’ve ever seen? No. Was it as good as That 70s Show? Hell no. But honestly I didn’t hate the later episodes (as far as the storylines) the costuming and sets were horrid.
Completely agree..My husband and I struggled to move past the first two episodes, but by the end we had enjoyed a couple good laughs, (mainly thanks to Red and Kitty). Not a great show by any means, and I was upset the original people were not involved as much as it seemed they would be…also..the math for their kids ages really doesn’t work out. Donna and Jackie would have had to get pregnant or be pregnant on New Years Eve of the last episode of That 70’s Show for them to have 15 year olds in the summer of 1995..just saying…but the episodes did flow smoother and get less awkward as it approached the end.
What killed it for me is when Laia used the term “rando”. No one said that until like, two years ago. And the way they dressed, their hair and makeup… it reminds me of when we’d dress as hippies for Halloween, like a characature of the style. Like the costume designers once saw a picture of someone from the 90s and tried to recreate it with a “modern twist”.
Absolutely agree on the slang. I am sure there was a lot of anachronisms in That 70s Show too but they didn't usually jump out at me like this show did. At one point Leia says "clocked it" when Eric (I think) points to something (embarrassing) across the room. That's a phrase that's only become popular in the last year, it would be like one of the kids saying "based" in the 90s? It's like they didn't even try.
the 4k HD 100000% ruined sitcoms the main thing that threw me off about this was the disney esque coloring, mixed with the cringey writing it came off super cliche and the WARDROBE DEPARTMENT dropped the ball so fucking hard all the clothes looked like they were from h&m when I know damn well they could’ve sourced some actual 90s clothing
The clothing thing is so true. The clothes while they tried to go for certain trends from the 90s, they look too modernized like they were shopping them at like you said, H&M or maybe even Forever21 and it ends up looking too modern which further emphasized how the kids look like gen z and not millennial 90s kids. They really should've got creative and hit thrift stores or something.
Red and Kitty are the heart of the show. I really liked them. And I definitely think the show gets its rhythm as the episodes progress. But that laugh track makes my eye twitch.
The thing that made that 70s show so special was how they incorporated real celebrities from the 70s into the cast. Also the lighting and style of speech/slang and ideals were a natural part of it.
Yeah, but that was with original characters. They would never try originality, again. Best to just write a show about Eric and Donna's daughter and recycle every other character, as well.
Tbh, the timing was off for That 80s Show. The writing was also bad, but shouldn't have done it when That 70s Show was on and 30 years is better for nostalgia. The one thing That 90s Show did right was the timing.
it's nearly impossible to catch lightning in a bottle ONCE let alone twice. idk why hollyweird doesn't get that. if you have no new ideas just say so! at this point it's just getting insulting. it looks like they forced kurtwood and debra out of retirement 🥲
The only good thing that came from that show was Glenn Howerton getting a paycheck, so he could buy the original filming equipment for the It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia initial pilot.
I watched the "reboot" for 10 minutes and was SO UNCOMFORTABLE at how horrid it was I had to turn it off and never continued 😂😂 edit: GENUINELY shocked at how many ppl in the comments liked it. I felt like you were speaking my truth Jaime 🤷♀
I totally feel this, but that last episode makes me want to watch season 2. The actors who play Leia and Nate have amazing chemistry. I was like “this dumb but imma watch it again 😭”
I agree with you. There was a lot of points I agree with Jaime on like the dialogue was really lacking and I felt like the characters weren't as strong in general. However there were a few redeemable moments by the end, and I knew it was dumb but that I would likely watch season 2 stil. It's just a casual watch and imo not standout in anyway but not unbearable.
Jesus the way that girl busted into her grandparents house, drunk, with the red cup still in her hand, demanding to be allowed to stay! My 90s mom would have shoved my ass in the car straight back home. 😂
Ummm, excuse me? I live in WI (Sheboygan Co), and I have had AT LEAST a handful of underage drinking fines growing up, thank you very much! As well as smoking, and curfew.
@@virgochic81 rough luck, you must've had the strictest in the state lol, I had to move to Minnesota to get in trouble for it (only a month before I turned 21 smh). Also, I love your name!
Totally agree with your review! The people who wrote for That 70s Show were actually kids during the 70s.. those same people are writting for the 90s show and have absolutely no clue what it was like to be a kid in the 90s.. js
They brought their daughter in who ostensibly should be the right age but yes. To me it lacks authenticity. It certainly feels like someone's idea of what it was like instead of coming from people who lived it But I also think it's hard because they don't want to promote outdated themes and ways of thinking so part of the problem is the characters look like they are in the 90s but act like they are in 2022. That wasn't really an issue for That 70s Show
Actually, the girl who played Donna in That 70's Show, Laura Prepone, is directing and writing in this show. She was 15 in 1995 (same age as Leia is supposed to be in That 90's Show.
@@Christiangjf The old ones are just really funny jokes, it does not feel like acting, the new ones are really cringy, i dont get why its getting so much positive comments
You're right.. it doesn't look 90s at all, only like gen z trying to look 90s (nothing at all against gen z, I just know it's a popular aesthetic right now). Your bloopers were 100x funnier than anything from the show 😆
@@trinaq the only one tolerable is Lea…. Perfect combo of her parents and actually makes me believe her. The rest are such cardboard characters that it looks like a stage play almost. Every single one of them are cringe and it doesn’t feel like the 90’s…. At all….. the original cast and lea are the best parts of the show… which isnt good if it’s about their kids. I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’m only watching for posterity sake. Since the original cast showed up. But whenever they’re off screen I automatically get annoyed. Not with lea but with the kids.
I loved that 70s show but I remember at that time my parents were saying that it didn't remind them of their childhood, a lot like some comments are saying about this one. Which I find ironic. Thanks for reviewing this one!
I thought the same, it wasn’t targeted at them, it was targeted at our generation…and I think that’s the same as That 90s Show, it seems like something that’s supposed to appeal to people the same age as the actors.
Interesting. My parents said a lot of the things available, music, activities, etc, reminded them of growing up. Maybe different areas? My parents were in the midwest in the 70s.
I saw the ig posts for the rollout and felt so bad for these kids bc I knew the flack they would get already. I feel like their parents should’ve let them know that all opportunities aren’t good ones and this will stain their budding careers. It’s so unfortunate for them. They really aren’t bad actors.
their not all that bad actors, the girl who plays like the 'smart girlfriend' is actually pretty decent and has okay comedic timing. also leia is charming. the script just sucks.
I love that 70’s show. It’s my comfort show and it never gets old. The 90’s version is so awkward! I wanted more Jackie and Kelso! Thank god for red and kitty who made this season bearable.
I enjoyed it enough to laugh and I think the kids will adapt to the acting that the others are so good at. Watch the first season of 70s show the first few episodes have some cringe. I really see it as kitty and red as the main characters.
The best part of that 70s show for me is Red and Kitty. I laughed really hard at the "sensative baby skin" line but only because Red reminds me so much of my dad haha. (But it didn't deserve a laugh track)
In defense of her hallucinating on weed, I think it was referencing the bit where all the walls would be moving for Eric when he would go upstairs and talk to his parents in the kitchen
I was a little bummed by that bit. I think it worked when most of the U.S. population didn't smoke weed as openly as they do now, or didn't even know how the general high felt. I was hoping if they recreated that moment in the present, they would make it a little more realistic. Like Leia saying that Kitty has a thousand wrinkles she never noticed before, or how shiny Red's head is, or maybe a non-stop giggle fit while they try to lecture her and she's unable to explain what's so funny? I dunno. The video game simulator was cute but not what I would have gone with. ☠️ I don't know why people keep writing weed like it's a hallucinogen. Apparently, you can hallucinate with it, but it's incredibly rare and only happens by an off chance.
@Monique Rosewood That's so incredibly interesting to me. I've only known one other person who claimed to hallucinate but they said it only happened once to them so maybe it was laced, and then they stopped smoking altogether lol does it freak you out when it happens or does it enhance the experience?
This show came out a couple months after my best friend of 17 years passed away. If anyone else is going through something similar, this show is perfect. It’s brain dead as hell with way too much laughing..idk it was perfect for me and to zone out and block out the bad stuff going on. I wish it just followed around kitty and red lol
ty for this, as having been a teen in the 90s, we got shafted with this one. that 70s show went hard with the references and background stuff. source , my mom who was a teen in the 70s. shed watch every episode with me hardcore :P this one was a cheap slap in the face.
It reminds me of "Fuller House" where it's, like, super campy, features original cast members for 2 seconds (for which the fake crowd cheers SO LOUDLY), and uses a laugh track after every line.
Yes! Exactly like Fuller House. That’s what I thought too. The acting in these reboots are just so over the top and campy. That’s exactly the word I used when I was explaining it to others. They just can’t recreate the magic that these shows had.
@Michelle I thought so too until I started hearing the same whoops and cheers all the time! In the originals I'm pretty sure it was definitely a live studio audience, though.
But I really like fuller house I actually Got a cameo from the guy who plays Jackson That's probably why I didn't hate that 90s show It's actually kind of enjoyable if you give it a chance I have not seen the original show but I'm actually kind of excited For season 2 to see where it goes
Around 2014, Netflix once had the entire collection of That 70s Show. I know this because that is how I watched the entire series season 1 Ep 1 to the very end, binges! I do not know when it was removed, but was very disappointing. Netflix seems to have really good content for a short time & then it is removed as more lame stuff comes & the classics go. I recently purchased The entire 70s Show collection on DVD from Walmart when I realized Netflix had removed it. 😅
@@robertjenkins9771 based on their moral characters of the 70s show characters they’d all be divorced twice and a couple of them would be in AA meetings or addicted to pain killers
Hi, new-ish here to the channel, but went ham in your content in the past few weeks... I appreciate so many things about your content: the completeness; YOU ARE HILARIOUS; the fart jokes; the characters; the well-timed cut ins; and that you include the countdown for sponsors (although I end up watching most of the time anyway due to previous points). Thanks for creating and sharing with us!
I was super excited about it because i watched it as a kid with my mom and didn't get it that much but when they said they were doing 90's i was like "ok now i get it, it was her era, now it's mine and I'm so down for the nostalgia" but then it wasn't that great, i was expecting more pop culture, more grunge, more decor, more NOSTALGIA.. and more funny?
I also feel like when they make 80's/ 90's shows/films now it's with an updated 2020's feel. It doesn't feel authentic or realistic. Rather just trendy and hip! I watched another random show with a horrible laugh track too (blocked it out b/c I don't remember!) .
The keg thing is literally stolen from one of the first That 70s Show eps. They find a keg in the middle of the road, decide to throw a party, and realize there's no tap. So they buy one (which I don't think is illegal, like the cashier says in the original "can't drink a tap"), but it gets broken, so Eric goes and steals his dad's tap. It's actually insulting how they recycled it like that. Btw the hair smelling is not a callback.
I liked it! It was okay, there were some good parts. But the best characters/lines were Red and Kitty. I couldn’t stop thinking about how much it felt like a Disney channel show while watching it. Idk if it’s supposed to relate to teenagers today or the older nostalgic 90s adults. And the story seems less dimensional, especially noticeable when watching old characters.
*_"I...I...I..Eyeee didn't know you were allowed to put other stuff on the noodles"_* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jamie's ad promotions are top tier. She's literally the only UA-camr that I never fast forward through...it's just bonus content. 👌
I think it's funny how both Donna and Jackie ended up pregnant like, right after the series finale of That 70's Show for Jay and Leia to exist and be fifteen years old.
What irritated me is that Jay and Leia have never met before? Their moms were best friends and pregnant together? Leia probably has visited every summer since she was a baby? But they have no idea the other exists?
@@stitches318 That's the thing. When That 70's Show ended, they were all still friends. They would've been pregnant together. And it's clear that Jay lives in Point Place considering he has this established friend group. How did he and Leia never run into each other before when she visited with her parents? Even if Jackie/Kelso and Donna/Eric lived away from each other, did they never send Christmas cards with photos of each other's kids inside?
@@taylorm7777 Michael had a baby with the librarian Brooke. The baby's name was Betsy and Michael moved to Chicago to be close to them. I think betsy would be like a year or 2 older than Jay.
Edit to add that they should have had a 90s version of the og cast and have it be about them instead of the kids. Would have been far more interesting. Omg yes! It's terrible! I couldn't put my finger on what felt so off about it, and I think you're right. The laugh track is a huge reason. And it really feels like the Disney Channel tried their hand at something they shouldn't have been allowed to touch... it's sad to know that some of the og cast wrote bits of it, and it missed the mark this poorly. And there wasn't enough of a 90s feel to it. Like there were hints of it with the DARE shirt and some of the clothes, a few music references. There was a lot more diversity in the cast which is nice to see now, but I feel like it took away from the very white washed tv of the 90s. I don't mean that to say we need to revert back to it, it just didn't look familiar to me. I love that Ozzy feels so comfortable being himself, but they could have added more depth/story by showing how it really felt being a gay teen in the 90s. They could have added their sitcom touch to it, so it was relatable without being heavy. They gave him part of an episode late in the season to touch on it and again... missed mark.
It's so easy for me to picture a version of this show that more directly featured the OG cast as an A story and the kids as a B story and flipping the focus over the course of 8 or so episodes. Especially since Netflix is famous for rarely doing more than 2 or 3 seasons max anyway these days. In retrospect one of the obvious reasons the original show worked so well is that the majority of the actors would go on to be B+/A list actors, so it makes sense that Netflix didn't want to pay them their usual rates and wanted to introduce a new cast of unknown talent. But they wasted the good will those very talented name brand actors have for the series by not using them enough or optimizing the opportunities they were given on the other side of the camera as leverage to get them in front of the camera. Having the base premise be something like Eric losing his job in Chicago and needing to take a job teaching summer school in his hometown, the family staying with his parents until he can get a gig somewhere else would have been a great lead in. They could have let the kids story line unfold more or less as it went but ramping up slower, with the added detail that the kids were not really an existing friend group so much as a "Breakfast Club" that formed around Leia as a side effect of the show "catching up" with the OG cast as Eric/Donna are reuniting with their characters + Leia/the kids doing summer school. Instead of having Jackie and Kelso somehow getting together and having a kid immediately after the OG series timeline ends, which even Mila Kunis has said doesn't make any sense, they could have made them recently divorced from other people and getting back together during the events of the show as storyline. Making the new Kelso Michael's nephew, not his son, would have worked just fine because the character canonically has at least two brothers. Fez's storyline could have stayed pretty much the same, only better contextualized if situated in a format where the first 4 or so episodes of the show focus on catching up with a different OG character as the A storyline and then "resolving" their stories as the B storyline in the back 4 or so episodes. This would have set them up to let the kids take over for season two if the show had worked or just let it stand as a self-contained one season coda to the OG show that ended on an implied passing of the torch. The bad 90s detail references would have been fine if most of the heavy lifting on the acting and nostalgia had been carried by the OG actors, but it all came off like a bait-and-switch where they had learned nothing from the reasons that That 80s Show flopped.
Okay but the thing about 4K HD is so true. It’s almost like our shows are too high quality to fit the sitcom format these days because it’s just SO obvious that you’re watching a set
I just realized I'm depressed. Haven't been depressed like this in years. Your channel is one of the only things that keeps my attention and makes me laugh.... my laugh is more internal lately, but I'm hopeful I'll eventually get back to laughing out loud again. Soon...
I moped around the house after watching the pilot. I mean, I knew it was unlikely they would be able to pull off the magic they did with That 70’s Show, but damn. I could barely squeak out a smile other than when they brought out the original cast members. 😞
Omg, THANK YOU!!! I was actually baffled at hearing people say that they loved this reboot. The only parts I found remotely watchable was when the original cast was on screen. I feel like that was more because it was nostalgic, than due to any form of entertainment. Also.... wasn't the "oh no. We don't have a tap for the keg" an episode of That 70s Show? Yes? It was. Weord. Between that and the mirroring of the original characters....just seems a little desperate to capture the success of the original. Which it fails at. Miserably.
about the 4k thing, i remember seeing the last hobbit movie in theaters and it looked so much different (hyper realistic) than the previous one that i had to take extra effort to get myself into the movie bc it felt more like a documentary than a movie.
Movies shot on 35mm film look better because they are not ultra sharp with realistic contrast and colors. The old 35mm movie film look makes it almost look like a dream which is exactly what you want because its all about escapism. 4K image quality with perfect colors makes it feel too much like real life, and thats not what you want
It drives me crazy that they can’t get the hair right. Instead of the Afro, the neighbor should be in braids, or wearing relaxed hair or an extremely short haircut. She also could wear her hair in an explosion of curls but the hair is longer in that case (think Rachel from “The Craft”, Hillary Banks, or the actress Cree Summer). I am Black Woman who was her age in the 90’s and also into rock and punk music. Afros weren’t on trend even for rebel girls. The Dream guy should have that center part haircut that all the cutties had back then (think Rider Strong, JTT, Devin Sawa & Nick Carter). The “Jakie girl friend” should have just long hair not a mullet. Also, what year does this take place in? There’s a HUGE difference between 1991, 1995 & 1998.
This is a very good observation 🤣
Spot on.
takes place in 1995
THIS! I was also a teen in the mid-90s and none of these characters feel even remotely 90s.
Oh my God the essential 90s heartthrob boy center part floppy hair. It had me in a CHOKEHOLD, it wouldn't let me LIVE
The real crime is that nothing in this show is making me feel nostalgic for the 90s.
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Exactly!
I literally spent my summers in Wisconsin throughout the 90's and a "save the forest" commercial can make me nostalgic for it and this… this does not.
Same
Yeah I came here to comment this 😅
It’s like a Disney show cosplaying as 90s nostalgia and it…it doesn’t land.
Ironically, I feel sydney to the max did it a lot better, not perfect but better than that 90s show lol.
I watched this and said "Honestly, I don't care about the kids. I rather watch the old cast in their adulthood."
Same.
Which would arguably had been a better show. Not many spin-off shows can capture the same magic of the original with a cast trying to fulfill the same roles.
I really would've loved seeing the old characters as parents if the focus was equally on them and the kids, and if the kids were actually interesting.
Yes. They can't fathom that we might like the characters instead of just lust after teens.
Same
it literally feels like a disney channel type show. people try and defend it and say the kids are young, when forgetting mila herself was 14 when she first played jackie.
Yes
Mila was terrible and annoying the first few seasons, take of the nostalgia goggles.. this show is corny.. the original show was corny.. it fine and watchable, not a gem.. but not as bad as you guys say.
@@Spartacus4000 nostalgia goggles.. love that term and I'm gonna steal it. I also think its trendy to hate on reboots
@@Spartacus4000 I liked it. Super corny but aren't all sitcoms? I didn't have high hopes for it but it was actually pretty good I thought.
Omg the acting was so 2000s Disney channel 🤣
I just feel bad for Debra Jo Rupp (Kitty) and Kurtwood Smith (Red). I feel like they’re truly talented actors and they trusted Netflix with essentially their legacy and it feels like their talents are being wasted on this garbage sequel.
They're producers and had creative input on the show
They're the best parts of this show.
amen
All good things are over. Unless it's crowd funded, it's going to be trash. Originality is dead.
That is a great point. I feel bad for them as well. Absolutely love their characters.
My mom was in high school in the 70s and one of my favorite parts of watching that 70s show was her constantly pointing out ‘I had a shirt almost exactly like that!’ ‘Your dad had pants like the ones kelsos wearing from sears’ ‘My mother had those dishes!’ ‘We used to have a coffee table similar to that’ and so on with everything about the show. It was so well researched to get references and aesthetics right. I can’t imagine anyone doing that with this show, it looks so generic and blah. But, the last couple seasons of that 70s show weren’t very funny either tbh…
I'm an 80's baby, but my parents and grandparents still had a lot of stuff from the 70s. I also noticed a whole lot of stuff that I had seen as a kid. I was blown away by how accurate it was.
Same. And as a 90s kid, I see very little of what it was like then. I wish they would have given these characters real personalities instead of trying to match them to That 70s show counterparts and tried to imbed some of the actual culture at the time. We played Nintendo and rode bikes. We played with Trolls and pretended to be Power Rangers. We made mixtapes and wrote notes folded into origami.
Yes exactly! My mom said her high school experience was the exact same lol
YYYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!
My grammy has the same spices kitty uses in some episodes and they’re all still in our cupboard lmfao
The stupid generic band posters in Gwen's room made me retch. The costuming was terrible, which really just made me scratch my head because the majority of us humans who were alive & around the cast's age at that time can absolutely go into our closets right now & pull out something we wore back then. Those clothes still exist. They're still around. The lack of giving a shit about getting any of it correct was grating.
Yep! I graduated HS in 1996, and I *still* have several pair of my old nice Lucky brand, Silver, and GAP jeans, and a few of my floral sundresses, and countless photos of myself and my peers from our youth.
fr like just because someone can make a show doesnt mean they can make a good show... Where tf is the passion in different arts these days? is it really that hard to sit down for ahwile and come uip with GOOD content? Hell no wtf i could write a better show than that
Those middle fingers all on her wall was just too much, they were trying to make her the dark edgy teenager, and it did not work lmao
The clothes are so clearly current clothes trying to look 90s. They should have done like Stranger Things and sourced actual vintage pieces/made items based on real designs from the time.
I was born in 1980, and I didn't think the show was bad at all 🤷♀️ I'm one of those ppl that gets bored with shows easily, too. I cut the cord long before most ppl my age, and orginally relied on Netflix and video games instead of cable TV around 2010.
I don't really stick with ongoing series very often, but have tried and failed to get into other reboots like Full House. Not sure why I finished The 90s Show when others hate it, other than I have been sick for the last month so maybe it's just me being weird, but my mom liked it, too.
The problem with Netflix sitcoms is that they not only aren’t in front of a live studio audience but are only like 8 maybe 10 episodes each season, meanwhile a network sitcom would be like 22 episodes a season. This is important because it gives the cast and writers time to build on the characters and also to react and build off the audience. Some of the best moments in classic sitcoms are when you can tell a joke really lands with the audience there is a longer pause, they aren’t just laughing because they were told to, but because it was actually funny.
There were live audiences for this show in particular. They kept the details pretty secretive, but it's been mentioned on more than 1 occasion that they had live audiences. That laugh track though.. ugh...
10000 % 👏
I understand why they avoided talking about Hyde because of his actor's actions, but I found it strange that they just completely ignored Laurie's existence. I know her actress has passed away and I don't think she should be recast, but they could have at least mentioned her character. They could have said Laurie passed away or moved far away or something. Then what was even weirder was that towards the end of the season, when I had finally accepted that she didn't exist in this universe, Red makes a comment clearly referring to Eric being their second child.
was it in that 90s show or that 70s show when they said she’d moved to canada?
They should’ve just said Laurie ran off with a guy and they haven’t heard from her since, it would’ve been completely in character and it’s weird they just didn’t acknowledge it
They also recast Laurie, so technically they have an extra actress, too.
I mean they made Donna’s disappear in the original 🤷🏻♀️
@@irr1sssright. That irks me to this day! What happened to Tina?!?!? 🤣
The biggest difference is, the characters of that 70's show had a great dynamic, they worked really well together and the kids on that 90's show seemed to be forcing an attempt at that kind of dynamic and anytime you do that it will fail. That's why the interactions with the original cast are so good.
They went way too young, older actors are better typically
The reason that Netflix doesn’t do sitcoms well, is because Netflix doesn’t allow a show to grow. The second that a show does subpar they cancel the show but on regular television networks, they do allow for a second or third season to her. For example, the office wasn’t popular when it first started, it took a couple seasons before people caught on
Ur literally in my brain!!!!! It’s so crazy these days I truly think we’ve lost a lot of decent shows bc they’re given no chance!! For instance breaking bad was literally almost cancelled but they gave them another chance to just see where it went and it worked!! UGHH
And then they milk a show that didn’t need to last so long like 13 reasons why and Stranger Things.
Thank you for bringing in the whole “it doesn’t look like a show but like I’m on the set thing”. Every time I bring that up and it’s annoying quality, people act like I’m crazy
Me too! I was starting to wonder if it was just me. I dont like it at all.
Yes!!! She put into words something I could have never articulated!!!
I always say it looks like a stage play or an old BBC or PBS show from the 80s. Like we are there with them and I hate it so much. I want the illusion that it is a movie or show and not look real. It's gross. Lol!
You're not crazy. It's society that's crazy.
I feel so validated 🥹 I've pushed back on us getting a higher definition TV for a while now because of this. I could never watch TV again and actually enjoy it, because all I'd be fixated on is how much of the immersion is gone and I can see they're actors in makeup on a set.
American TV should do occasional special episodes instead of reboots. Every few years get everyone together for a one-off 90 minute episode, like the UK does with Christmas specials. You get to check in, tie up some ends, have a few laughs or solve a murder, aaand you're done. Leave them wanting more, not cringing.
Yeah, we used to do that. Then the studios decided that instead of producing originals, they'd just exploit previously popular shows
I think seeing Red and Kitty together again makes the show worthwhile. I was smiling so much every time they came on screen.
facts i started dying when red first found out jay was kelsos son “sweet lord it’s evolving”
It's a dumb fun show, that doesn't live up to the original. I watched it all and I will watch the decond season.
same
I could watch that 70's show over & over again. They had a 2nd chance at striking Gold & they totally blew it with that 90s show. Kitty & Red were the best part of the show.
Kitty and Red are the best part of both shows to be honest
Did those actors even age in the last several years? 🤔
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I just want the old cast back together. I want to see the old gang together with the old vibes and the old dialogues 😭 Is that so much to ask for?
@@TalkBack17 literally no they look exactly the same it’s crazy
As someone who was actually a teenager in the 90s (graduated HS in ‘97), I was mostly disappointed that they couldn’t even get the 90s ‘vibe’ right. It’s not that hard. But this wasn’t the 90s. This is 2023 in a bad “90s” Halloween costume. Not to mention the bad acting (like Disney shows), the script etc. Idk, I was just 😢 I had high hopes.
Edit: love your videos Jaime (my name too!) ❤ :)
I agree with everything but the high hopes part. None of these remakes are ever good. They need to stop mooching off nostalgia and make new shows and movies. It’s so lazy.
Hey, I graduated in ‘97 too!
I remember my mom complaining about how That 70's show lingo was all wrong..i get it now
I graduated in 95’ i totally agree!
@@suzielizabeth hey fellow ‘97er! ❤ being a teenager, I of course didn’t realize how good we had it back then. I miss that world.
I actually sat through and watched the sponsor ad Fly by Jing. Jaime literally makes the best bits for her sponsors.
I grew up in the 90s and nothing about these kids is reminiscent of the 90s.
That's how I feel about it as well.
Hmm I did have overalls haha but that's about it.
Agreed
Maybe Disney
Really? Because I thought they did a pretty good job. I was a teenager in the early ‘90s and it was pretty reminiscent to me.
I always thought it was super weird that they would name her Leia since Donna has previously dressed up as princess Leia for Eric for "Spicy" times
I thought that was weird too
I mean, to be fair I doubt they were thinking of their sexcapades when naming their daughter, and instead thinking of names that meant something to them.
Oh gross I didn't even think about that
Nooo 😂
@@MadiganinPeach I mean... Emet-Selch is a character that means a lot to me, but if my husband dressed up as him for our "spicy" time I'd never... ever... everrrrrrrrrr call my son Emet, even if the character is important to me.
that 90's show felt like it was written by someone who was told what that 70's show was like by someone who watched that 70's show 20 years ago, and then was told what the 90's was like by someone who experienced the 90's over 20 years ago, then they told someone the information they were given and that person threw the scripts together at the last minute after a binge watch of sex in the city.
follow up comment: hearing that you only made it through 2 episodes, you got to miss how they made leia completely rapey across the season. also, they are making more episodes. **facepalm**
The only problem with that is that most of the writers are from the original show
@@sadfaerie5817 then they should have no excuses for the dumpster fire that is that 90's show.
@@pipermarau Yeah!!! She is not the sexy, horny teenager at all!! What a gross portrayal of a character!!!
@@pipermarau it needs to be canceled
I feel that what made That 70s Show work was there a level of authenticity and it was reflective of that time period from the slang that was used, costume and set design, and the experiences the group had while in That 90s Show they are just joking about random things that were popular in the 90s and focusing too much on the smoking in the basement and the love of the original cast.
I often hate seeing the 90s recreated in shows. It's like they throw all authencity out the window and try to pass off 2010s fashion, jokes, and scenarios as the 90s. Like the fashion should be very similar to the 80s. Seeing that cheap 2010s denim, nothing modeled after the 90s versions of Media play, colorful mcdonalds, or mall madness, no kids with gameboys or huge legos just makes me so sad every time. There were so many 90s sitcoms, it would be so easy to watch saved by the bell once and copy and they'd be far more accurate than whatever this is.
This is a perfect example of a show that did not need a reboot
I have never seen a show that needed a reboot.
It isn't a reboot, it's a sequil
They could have done it better
It’s the delivery more than anything. The hired Disney actors! Lol
It's going to be like That 80s Show.
I think the problem is they weren't able to create a 90 's feel. Same with 80's show. That 70s show cast was magical .
I grew up in the 90s people weren't very exceptive of gays had Ozzie of lived through the 90s as I did him saying I'm gay would get him an ass kicking
Actually that 80s show did a ok job capturing the 80s even though the show sucks.
The 80s show was just terrible.
War flashbacks to when I watched That 80s Show because I love Glenn Howerton 😭
The keg storyline was literally just a copy of one that they did on that 70s show. They found a keg on the street or something I don’t remember. And then realized they didn’t have a tap and they sent Eric sent to buy it. But you don’t have to be over 21 to buy a tap. So he’s all prepared to pretend like he’s 21 when it doesn’t even matter. That was a funny episode.
Yes! That’s all I could think of while watching the pilot episode. I was like I know this show is a ripoff but I didn’t realize it would be THAT much of a ripoff.
Oh yeah!!!! I remember now
Literally the keg. The rave versus the concert in season 1 using the car. It’s not original enough.
if ur gonna make a sequel at least be a little bit more original
It took me just a second to realize no one involved with costuming/hair/make-up had even a passing acquaintance with a teenager in the 90s. What's with the backpacks being responsibly worn on both shoulders?!? Nobody did that. Nobody 2-strapped anything. No one. The second strap on a backpack or on a pair of overalls was completely superfluous.
Love this comment
This is so true! I was in college in the 90s and no matter how heavy my backpack was or how much my right shoulder hurt, there was no way in hell I was using both straps of the backpack LOL!
so true though. the overalls, one strap on, one off. backpack also. the more casual the better. hair had a ton of stuff in it too, whether that be coloured hair mascara, jewels, butterfly clips, coloured elastic bands, mini braids, etc. or, lots of oversized, or mini shirts.
The issue I have with that 90’s show is that the people they chose aren’t the right fit for the characters. That 70’s show the cast they chose were basically the same as the characters they played so it didn’t feel like they were acting. The that 90’s show feels like they are trying too hard because they aren’t a right fit for the characters, so it just feels like they’re acting.
Say what you want about That 90's show ( which I agree) but I am shocked at how good Red and Kitty look!
They were amazing
They were frozen
They look fantastic!
Spot on assessment. Also, as a person that was actually a teenager in the mid 90s, none of the show brings me back. The wardrobe is extremely generic, almost like the showrunners didn't actually grow up in that time.
That's a good way to put it. The clothes are technically accurate -- they did their due diligence -- but they don't feel authentic.
I could really say that about the entire show tbh
Agree, I was kind of hoping for at least that aspect to be included.
My husband made me watch this awful show. I don't understand why they keep making all these terrible shows (remakes, spin offs, etc.). There's so many books that could be adapted to movies or shows yet they keep making junk. I knew streaming was going to ruin TV.
The "GWEN" actor / character was so bad. All the kid roles were awful. NOT FUNNY.
They NEED to make it FEEL like the 90’s. And bring in the creativity from That 70’s Show! Dance numbers, group adventures, incorporate more 90’s music (don’t just name drop Sheryl Crow). Ughss I’m rooting for them as my love for the original is so strong. But man, it’s giving NOTHING so far😭
I do really like Leia's personality she's such a goober 😂 I'm also rooting for them!
Exactly. And I didn't get the 90's vibe from the actors, they all just seem to me to be modern teens trying to act like what they think 90's teens were like. The girl who plays Leia was ok.
There are so many beloved 90s sitcoms with great of-the-time style that they could have used for inspiration too, but they completely blew it
I think a show that really encapsulates the 90s well is Derry Girls! It makes me feel SO nostalgic
I love Derry Girls! I'm so sad it's over. They did a great job making it feel like the 90s. Pen15 is also another great one at capturing the spirit of its decade. As someone who was an early teen going into the 2000s it is soooo nostalgic for me.
YES!!! They do it so well
What about *”My Mad Fat Diary”* ???
100% yes
YES!! THE FATBOY SLIM EPISODE
I felt so alone in the relentless cringe experience of watching this on Netflix. You are a torch of compassion in an otherwise dark inert universe. You're doing the lord's work, Jamie, thank you.
I'm SO glad you mentioned the 4kHD look of the show. I hate shows that look "too real", so to speak. It really just adds to the unrealistic factor of a bad show lmao. Also, it's a sitcom-- I don't need to see everyone's pores and laugh lines.
I did watch it and the whole time I kept thinking that the kids looked so young and the whole thing felt like a tween Disney show. The original cast didn't feel like little kids. I initially thought it was because I am just old now but I think you nailed it with the laugh track being like a bad Disney show. At least I am going to blame it on that and not the fact that aging has happened to me.
They are younger, that's why it feels weird. They're age are: 13, 14, 17, 17, 17 and 18. In the original they were all 18 except for Mila Kunis, 'cause she lied saying she was almost 18, when she was actually 14.
No, the 80s and 70s clothing and hair styles just age you like 10 years. They look like teens, that's it... I guess we are way too used to 20 and 20 year olds pretending to be teens and actual teenager look like cradle crawlers aka. babies
If you rewatch that 70s show, it's just as bad. I think my nostalgia clouded my judgment of that show. It's horrible and cheesy lol. And our kids say the cats of that 70s looks really old hahahaha
No they finally used age approprjste actors for the characters that's why
y’all complaining about how the kids look so young but if they used 20+ actors for the show, y’all would complain abt them not adding actual children lmaoo. make up y’all mind.
I have been having a really hard time lately, I’ve barely been able to sleep and I’m on the verge of tears constantly it seems like. So at the end of the day when I’m looking for some comfort I turn on your videos. I’ve rewatched quite a few I’ve seen before and I can’t tell you what a help it’s been to be able to take even a few moments and laugh at your commentary. I know you may not see this because it’s an older video, but thank you Jamie. Watching your videos is like sitting with a bestfriend and making jokes about “bad” movies. I stumbled across you years ago and I’ve been a pretty avid viewer since but I can’t express how much they’ve really given me comfort lately. I know you struggle with your mental health at times and I truly hope you know that your fan base does love you. I wish I could see you when you come to Orlando, it’s not in my budget at this time lol, but I am so proud of you for making it to this point and I hope I get to see you in the future. Thank you for being you and posting things online for the rest of us to enjoy ❤️
Please cover The Nanny! Her style was amazingly 90s while being classic as well, bless Fran Drescher
fran is a queen!
I loved that show when I was like 8!
This was the Red and Kitty show. I watched the whole thing and there were some funny moments, but it was mainly the nostalgia from the original show that kept me watching. That "upstairs people" joke really hurt. Red wasn't talking to Donna and Eric, he was talking straight to US! 🤣 The worst part for me was when they introduced Gwen and Nate's mom. She was the worst caricature of a trashy Wisconsinite I've ever seen. (She's actually from Wisconsin and she got her BFA in acting from my alma mater, so I find it extra embarrassing)
Ashton’s “BUUUURRRRNNN” entrance was the best part of the show lol
I TOTALLY agree with 4k messing up TV shows. It's almost too real. I loved your version 😂
Yes, I just sometimes can’t even stomach the way shows and even some movies look now! It’s almost like we’ve landed in an era where everything looks so-real-it’s-fake like all soap operas 😅
even with old shows that are still on now, like grey’s anatomy, i prefer the look of the show when it was still shot i the 2000’s, now it’s too high quality 😭😭 give me that softer look pls
The worst I've seen so far is "The Farm" on Netflix. the show Ashton Kutcher made. it was so hyper realistic looking that while very HD for sure, it was just off-putting to me.
I just went back to pay for the cheaper Netflix, then nothing is in 4k. That’s how it is in my country at least. Maybe there are more 4k shows on the US Netflix but not many in the Swedish version. Not worth $18 a month. I like 4k but it’s not worth that much for me
I don’t like shows or movies that look high quality either it just takes away a lot of the appeal
I’m so glad you covered this.
It immediately struck me as girl meets world -then they even did the opening scene of somebody climbing through the window.
on top of that, they used the word creeper. I was a teenager in the 90s. I never heard the word creeper until almost 10 years after that.
It’s just lazy. They’re banking on the nostalgia
I loved Girl Meets World. It was exactly what I expected it to be. They don't MAKE shows heavy like Boy Meets world was any more. Gmw was perfect. It made me happy. What else do you need??? Idk. I feel like people expect way too much.
@@Mama_Bear524 duh. Doesn't mean it's immediately horrible. I thought it was done well. It wasn't as cheesey as many kids shows even at its time. And i expected to hate it. So I don't get how anyone does. But that's me.
@@ellecimz6618 idk I’ve watched gmw before bmw and I didn’t like gmw as much especially that autism episode they made it look like a disease and don’t even get me started on the Maya and josh thing it was creepy
@@natalienwozo155 everyone has their own preferences. I mean i think all modern tv is kind of shit honestly if we're going down that route. The charm is gone. The industry is dying. We should all read more. Lol
It felt like a 2023 sitcom and nothing like a 90's sitcom 😪😞 Also this is my first time watching your channel and I love it!!! 👏👏Unlike That 90's Show I was laughing at your punch -lines
Kitty and Red carried the whole series.
Donna, Jackie, and Kelso's appearances were fantastic.
Kelso's son was correct but it was weird that he was involved so much but neither Jackie nor Kelso were around.
Honey do you know how Hollywood works?
I mean its about the kids.. not the parents.
What about Betsy?
I thought young Kelso seems like someone raised by Michael Kelso without being a copy of him. I also thought Nate's hair was right. I can even buy Nikki (it's a little older than 95, but it's suburban Wisconsin, they're a little behind).
@@origamipein18 in all fairness to the show, Michael and Jackie were only in like 10 minutes of the overall season. Her mom could have had custody during summer or maybe there just wasn't an organic way to bring her up during Jay's scenes. Betsey could be coming in season 2 or at least mentioned in season 2
You’re so right about the 4K look nowadays. We can see every pore and sweat it’s insane. And why does everyone look so prim and proper ?😩
I can see everyone's makeup which I hate because often the characters aren't wearing makeup but the actors are
@@TheNDofUO wait what? They wore makeup in all TV shows always. Even kids.
@@Queueddd yep, even the men. It’s typically a natural and light makeup on the kids and me but they always put it on them in film.
@@Queueddd Ire didn't say they didn't. They said that this show had characters portraying characters that had no makeup on when it's shown in 4k where you are forced to actually see their makeup. It's an odd contradiction when you can still make shows in lower resolution, especially a 90s show.
How can they call it the 90s when there’s not even one glass with a goose on it in that kitchen!
I love that you said what you said about 4k and HD ruining sitcoms. I was just talking about this recently. No matter how good the actors/actresses are it feels off and I can't get into the movie or show anymore. Also side note you and nick and relationship goals for real.
I think it's just off TO US, but for those who will grow up with this style it's gonna be their "right style". We're just getting older and the world just keeps changing, that's it.
You can always tell the writers that don't smoke by the way they always portray getting stoned as an acid trip 😱
when you get really high your first few times it actually does feel pretty trippy
I mean...it was at least 15 years old. Maybe there was some weird mold spores on it that caused hallucinations lol
@@chadwellington2524 oh man just reminded me of my first time. I thought there were people hiding in my bathtub. It was scary.
(I know I'm late)
Weed can make you paranoid, but, definitely not the same as an acid trip
Jaime, what the actual fuck. WHY haven’t you created a “commercial” business yet ?!?!?!?! You’re so damn creative 💕
The first couple of episodes felt like a Disney or Nickelodeon sitcom, with sex and drug references. The new cast seemed to be reading their lines, and didn't gel as well as the original cast had. However, they got more comfortable by the end.
I do agree. Episodes 1 and 2 were the worst. There were a couple in the middle/end that were better.
agreed! 100% I even said this while watching the end of the show.
Told my gf this I almost stopped watching but for whatever reason I kept watching. Was it the best show I’ve ever seen? No. Was it as good as That 70s Show? Hell no. But honestly I didn’t hate the later episodes (as far as the storylines) the costuming and sets were horrid.
Completely agree..My husband and I struggled to move past the first two episodes, but by the end we had enjoyed a couple good laughs, (mainly thanks to Red and Kitty). Not a great show by any means, and I was upset the original people were not involved as much as it seemed they would be…also..the math for their kids ages really doesn’t work out. Donna and Jackie would have had to get pregnant or be pregnant on New Years Eve of the last episode of That 70’s Show for them to have 15 year olds in the summer of 1995..just saying…but the episodes did flow smoother and get less awkward as it approached the end.
Yes, Gwen felt like she belonged on Disney. Like Hannah Montana or something like that.
What killed it for me is when Laia used the term “rando”. No one said that until like, two years ago. And the way they dressed, their hair and makeup… it reminds me of when we’d dress as hippies for Halloween, like a characature of the style. Like the costume designers once saw a picture of someone from the 90s and tried to recreate it with a “modern twist”.
Absolutely agree on the slang. I am sure there was a lot of anachronisms in That 70s Show too but they didn't usually jump out at me like this show did. At one point Leia says "clocked it" when Eric (I think) points to something (embarrassing) across the room. That's a phrase that's only become popular in the last year, it would be like one of the kids saying "based" in the 90s? It's like they didn't even try.
Lol...no one said "rando", "creeper" or "clocked it" in 1995. I know they want to appeal to a younger audience watching today, but come on.
Lol I was born in the late 80’s and we used all of those terms. I think it’s more specific to where you are.
Yes it feels like “2022 version of 90s attire”
Yes!
the 4k HD 100000% ruined sitcoms the main thing that threw me off about this was the disney esque coloring, mixed with the cringey writing it came off super cliche and the WARDROBE DEPARTMENT dropped the ball so fucking hard all the clothes looked like they were from h&m when I know damn well they could’ve sourced some actual 90s clothing
The clothing thing is so true. The clothes while they tried to go for certain trends from the 90s, they look too modernized like they were shopping them at like you said, H&M or maybe even Forever21 and it ends up looking too modern which further emphasized how the kids look like gen z and not millennial 90s kids. They really should've got creative and hit thrift stores or something.
Red and Kitty are the heart of the show. I really liked them. And I definitely think the show gets its rhythm as the episodes progress.
But that laugh track makes my eye twitch.
I wish it was their story and everyone else was a supporting character. A lot of 70’s shows fans have grown up and can relate to them more.
I feel so bad for the actors of the new cast. They are 100% being set up to fail
Basically, yeah. But work is work and the experience goes on their resume for future work, so it's not a total loss and they can only go up from here.
I mean yeah the writing is bad but sometimes good acting can make simple writing good...those kids just couldn't act or had no chemistry :/
I agree except there is something to be said for "making what you can" out of a shit script. That will help them somehow
The thing that made that 70s show so special was how they incorporated real celebrities from the 70s into the cast. Also the lighting and style of speech/slang and ideals were a natural part of it.
They tried to do That 80’s Show and it bombed. I was shocked they would even try again.
Yeah, but that was with original characters. They would never try originality, again. Best to just write a show about Eric and Donna's daughter and recycle every other character, as well.
Tbh, the timing was off for That 80s Show. The writing was also bad, but shouldn't have done it when That 70s Show was on and 30 years is better for nostalgia. The one thing That 90s Show did right was the timing.
it's nearly impossible to catch lightning in a bottle ONCE let alone twice. idk why hollyweird doesn't get that. if you have no new ideas just say so! at this point it's just getting insulting. it looks like they forced kurtwood and debra out of retirement 🥲
The only good thing that came from that show was Glenn Howerton getting a paycheck, so he could buy the original filming equipment for the It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia initial pilot.
I watched the "reboot" for 10 minutes and was SO UNCOMFORTABLE at how horrid it was I had to turn it off and never continued 😂😂 edit: GENUINELY shocked at how many ppl in the comments liked it. I felt like you were speaking my truth Jaime 🤷♀
Agreed, I only made it through five episodes, since it just seemed to be trying too hard to be nostalgic, and capture the same magic as the original.
Same
LMAO me too, I was trying so hard to sit through it but eventually just gave up 😂
I made it 4:49
I just checked and I made it to 6:45 in the pilot episode. I couldn’t go on from there. It was too terrible.
I totally feel this, but that last episode makes me want to watch season 2. The actors who play Leia and Nate have amazing chemistry. I was like “this dumb but imma watch it again 😭”
I agree with you. There was a lot of points I agree with Jaime on like the dialogue was really lacking and I felt like the characters weren't as strong in general. However there were a few redeemable moments by the end, and I knew it was dumb but that I would likely watch season 2 stil. It's just a casual watch and imo not standout in anyway but not unbearable.
The most accurate part of the show is the 'no consequences for underage drinking' in Wisconsin
Jesus the way that girl busted into her grandparents house, drunk, with the red cup still in her hand, demanding to be allowed to stay! My 90s mom would have shoved my ass in the car straight back home. 😂
Grew up in small town Missouri in the 90s… even the cops just dumped our stuff and sent us home
Ummm, excuse me? I live in WI (Sheboygan Co), and I have had AT LEAST a handful of underage drinking fines growing up, thank you very much! As well as smoking, and curfew.
@@virgochic81 rough luck, you must've had the strictest in the state lol, I had to move to Minnesota to get in trouble for it (only a month before I turned 21 smh). Also, I love your name!
Totally agree with your review! The people who wrote for That 70s Show were actually kids during the 70s.. those same people are writting for the 90s show and have absolutely no clue what it was like to be a kid in the 90s.. js
They brought their daughter in who ostensibly should be the right age but yes. To me it lacks authenticity. It certainly feels like someone's idea of what it was like instead of coming from people who lived it
But I also think it's hard because they don't want to promote outdated themes and ways of thinking so part of the problem is the characters look like they are in the 90s but act like they are in 2022. That wasn't really an issue for That 70s Show
Actually, the girl who played Donna in That 70's Show, Laura Prepone, is directing and writing in this show. She was 15 in 1995 (same age as Leia is supposed to be in That 90's Show.
That phone conversation at the end gave me all the smiles you’re both so cute! And that is exactly how my husband ends calls (loveyoubye)!
I am so glad you immediately commented on the laugh track. I have absolutely always HATED laugh tracks and thought they immediately made a show bad.
As soon as I became aware of laugh tracks they annoy the hell out of me.
Its also in that 70 show 😀
@@HappyDude1 yes but, new bad old good
@@Christiangjf
The old ones are just really funny jokes, it does not feel like acting, the new ones are really cringy, i dont get why its getting so much positive comments
You're right.. it doesn't look 90s at all, only like gen z trying to look 90s (nothing at all against gen z, I just know it's a popular aesthetic right now). Your bloopers were 100x funnier than anything from the show 😆
The Ad - "drama promo" skit was HALARIOUS !!! Its like we got an extra comedy piece.... soooo funny. 🤗🤗
My main confusion is how the parents look like they haven't really aged and its freaking me out.
They definitely look like they've aged, and they had already aged out in the original 70s show
they definitely look older get a new set of eyes
@@chadwellington2524 kitty still looks great. What are you even saying?
@@Liitebulb she said haven’t really, she didn’t say not at all dimwit.
@@Undrconst Yeah because she's covered in layers of makeup. Just look at her arms and how weak and "wriggly" they've become. Lol
totally agree that the HD makes shows look like we're on sets and it ruins the movie magic
I actually enjoyed that 90s show. Like I had LOW expectations and it's not a GREAT show but it's fine and has its moments.
TBH this show was doomed from the start. It was never going to live up to the original.
Agreed, but if you just view it on its own merits, and don't compare it to the original, then it's an enjoyable experience!
What she ☝️☝️said!! Doomed!
@@trinaq the only one tolerable is Lea…. Perfect combo of her parents and actually makes me believe her. The rest are such cardboard characters that it looks like a stage play almost. Every single one of them are cringe and it doesn’t feel like the 90’s…. At all….. the original cast and lea are the best parts of the show… which isnt good if it’s about their kids. I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’m only watching for posterity sake. Since the original cast showed up. But whenever they’re off screen I automatically get annoyed. Not with lea but with the kids.
the original wasnt even good imo all those old sitcoms are so unfunny
It totally lives up to it. It's just as bad.
I loved that 70s show but I remember at that time my parents were saying that it didn't remind them of their childhood, a lot like some comments are saying about this one. Which I find ironic. Thanks for reviewing this one!
This is exactly what I was thinking
I thought the same, it wasn’t targeted at them, it was targeted at our generation…and I think that’s the same as That 90s Show, it seems like something that’s supposed to appeal to people the same age as the actors.
Fact is. It isn't a good show. It doesn't matter that it doesn't resemble the 90s its poorly done and horrendous acting
Interesting. My parents said a lot of the things available, music, activities, etc, reminded them of growing up. Maybe different areas? My parents were in the midwest in the 70s.
@@pretzelmaker3122 I wonder if it’s more with the hippie culture that could relate to it more. Just my guess?
I saw the ig posts for the rollout and felt so bad for these kids bc I knew the flack they would get already. I feel like their parents should’ve let them know that all opportunities aren’t good ones and this will stain their budding careers. It’s so unfortunate for them. They really aren’t bad actors.
their not all that bad actors, the girl who plays like the 'smart girlfriend' is actually pretty decent and has okay comedic timing. also leia is charming. the script just sucks.
That phone call with your husband at the end was freaking adorable. Please never change ❤
I love that 70’s show. It’s my comfort show and it never gets old.
The 90’s version is so awkward! I wanted more Jackie and Kelso! Thank god for red and kitty who made this season bearable.
I just want the old cast back together. I want to see the old gang together with the old vibes and the old dialogues 😭 Is that so much to ask for?
I absolutely LOVE how you talk lol and the best part was the recitation(s) of the Peaky Blinders clip 😂
You've said it all. I unfortunately finished the entire season, and it did NOT get better.
I enjoyed it enough to laugh and I think the kids will adapt to the acting that the others are so good at. Watch the first season of 70s show the first few episodes have some cringe. I really see it as kitty and red as the main characters.
There's a huge difference, though, between having a few cringe moments and having every single moment of the show be cringe
The best part of that 70s show for me is Red and Kitty.
I laughed really hard at the "sensative baby skin" line but only because Red reminds me so much of my dad haha. (But it didn't deserve a laugh track)
In defense of her hallucinating on weed, I think it was referencing the bit where all the walls would be moving for Eric when he would go upstairs and talk to his parents in the kitchen
I was a little bummed by that bit. I think it worked when most of the U.S. population didn't smoke weed as openly as they do now, or didn't even know how the general high felt. I was hoping if they recreated that moment in the present, they would make it a little more realistic. Like Leia saying that Kitty has a thousand wrinkles she never noticed before, or how shiny Red's head is, or maybe a non-stop giggle fit while they try to lecture her and she's unable to explain what's so funny? I dunno. The video game simulator was cute but not what I would have gone with. ☠️ I don't know why people keep writing weed like it's a hallucinogen. Apparently, you can hallucinate with it, but it's incredibly rare and only happens by an off chance.
@Monique Rosewood That's so incredibly interesting to me. I've only known one other person who claimed to hallucinate but they said it only happened once to them so maybe it was laced, and then they stopped smoking altogether lol does it freak you out when it happens or does it enhance the experience?
Your fake smoke was better than their fake smoke 😂
This show came out a couple months after my best friend of 17 years passed away. If anyone else is going through something similar, this show is perfect. It’s brain dead as hell with way too much laughing..idk it was perfect for me and to zone out and block out the bad stuff going on. I wish it just followed around kitty and red lol
ty for this, as having been a teen in the 90s, we got shafted with this one. that 70s show went hard with the references and background stuff. source , my mom who was a teen in the 70s. shed watch every episode with me hardcore :P this one was a cheap slap in the face.
I turned 15 in 1990, so yeah, I am disappointed!
@@GenXfrom75 my twin and i complained to each other sooo much about this one :P
@@asarishepard8171 🤣🤣 💞
It reminds me of "Fuller House" where it's, like, super campy, features original cast members for 2 seconds (for which the fake crowd cheers SO LOUDLY), and uses a laugh track after every line.
Yes! Exactly like Fuller House. That’s what I thought too. The acting in these reboots are just so over the top and campy. That’s exactly the word I used when I was explaining it to others. They just can’t recreate the magic that these shows had.
yeah! i saw fuller house and every 2 seconds the audience goes AWWWWWW made me wanna gag
@Michelle I thought so too until I started hearing the same whoops and cheers all the time! In the originals I'm pretty sure it was definitely a live studio audience, though.
But I really like fuller house I actually Got a cameo from the guy who plays Jackson That's probably why I didn't hate that 90s show It's actually kind of enjoyable if you give it a chance I have not seen the original show but I'm actually kind of excited For season 2 to see where it goes
Around 2014, Netflix once had the entire collection of That 70s Show. I know this because that is how I watched the entire series season 1 Ep 1 to the very end, binges! I do not know when it was removed, but was very disappointing. Netflix seems to have really good content for a short time & then it is removed as more lame stuff comes & the classics go. I recently purchased The entire 70s Show collection on DVD from Walmart when I realized Netflix had removed it. 😅
side note: i’m really sick of movies and tv shows where people marry someone they met when they were like 12 😂
Haha, it does happen, more often in small towns, but I get your point.
yeah cause that doesn’t happen irl☠️
My sister did. Small towns man. You don't meet anyone else.
Exactly! Like fine, Eric and Donna got married and stayed together, but Jackie and Kelso? Yeah right! They should realistically be divorced lol
@@robertjenkins9771 based on their moral characters of the 70s show characters they’d all be divorced twice and a couple of them would be in AA meetings or addicted to pain killers
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Omg thank you so much this is a huge compliment 🥹 yay for new friends. Hope you don’t mind if I call you Meegan.
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I feel like the people who wrote this show didn't grow up in the 90s and had never met a teenager ever... especially in that weed scene
I was super excited about it because i watched it as a kid with my mom and didn't get it that much but when they said they were doing 90's i was like "ok now i get it, it was her era, now it's mine and I'm so down for the nostalgia" but then it wasn't that great, i was expecting more pop culture, more grunge, more decor, more NOSTALGIA.. and more funny?
Yea they can watch old shows and movies listen to music flip through magazines and catalogs to capture it they have so many sources available
I also feel like when they make 80's/ 90's shows/films now it's with an updated 2020's feel. It doesn't feel authentic or realistic. Rather just trendy and hip! I watched another random show with a horrible laugh track too (blocked it out b/c I don't remember!) .
The keg thing is literally stolen from one of the first That 70s Show eps. They find a keg in the middle of the road, decide to throw a party, and realize there's no tap. So they buy one (which I don't think is illegal, like the cashier says in the original "can't drink a tap"), but it gets broken, so Eric goes and steals his dad's tap. It's actually insulting how they recycled it like that. Btw the hair smelling is not a callback.
I liked it! It was okay, there were some good parts. But the best characters/lines were Red and Kitty. I couldn’t stop thinking about how much it felt like a Disney channel show while watching it. Idk if it’s supposed to relate to teenagers today or the older nostalgic 90s adults. And the story seems less dimensional, especially noticeable when watching old characters.
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Jamie's ad promotions are top tier. She's literally the only UA-camr that I never fast forward through...it's just bonus content. 👌
If they had made it about the original cast, I would have LOVED IT! Seeing them all grown up and navigating parenting and older life.
Agree!!
I think it's funny how both Donna and Jackie ended up pregnant like, right after the series finale of That 70's Show for Jay and Leia to exist and be fifteen years old.
What irritated me is that Jay and Leia have never met before? Their moms were best friends and pregnant together? Leia probably has visited every summer since she was a baby? But they have no idea the other exists?
@@stitches318 That's the thing. When That 70's Show ended, they were all still friends. They would've been pregnant together. And it's clear that Jay lives in Point Place considering he has this established friend group. How did he and Leia never run into each other before when she visited with her parents? Even if Jackie/Kelso and Donna/Eric lived away from each other, did they never send Christmas cards with photos of each other's kids inside?
didn't Kelso have another kid with a random girl - late in the original series? does his son have no idea of the existence of his half-sibling either?
@@lanakin19 I thought Jay was that baby. (I didn't think Jackie was his real mom)
@@taylorm7777 Michael had a baby with the librarian Brooke. The baby's name was Betsy and Michael moved to Chicago to be close to them. I think betsy would be like a year or 2 older than Jay.
Edit to add that they should have had a 90s version of the og cast and have it be about them instead of the kids. Would have been far more interesting.
Omg yes! It's terrible! I couldn't put my finger on what felt so off about it, and I think you're right. The laugh track is a huge reason. And it really feels like the Disney Channel tried their hand at something they shouldn't have been allowed to touch... it's sad to know that some of the og cast wrote bits of it, and it missed the mark this poorly. And there wasn't enough of a 90s feel to it. Like there were hints of it with the DARE shirt and some of the clothes, a few music references. There was a lot more diversity in the cast which is nice to see now, but I feel like it took away from the very white washed tv of the 90s. I don't mean that to say we need to revert back to it, it just didn't look familiar to me. I love that Ozzy feels so comfortable being himself, but they could have added more depth/story by showing how it really felt being a gay teen in the 90s. They could have added their sitcom touch to it, so it was relatable without being heavy. They gave him part of an episode late in the season to touch on it and again... missed mark.
It's so easy for me to picture a version of this show that more directly featured the OG cast as an A story and the kids as a B story and flipping the focus over the course of 8 or so episodes. Especially since Netflix is famous for rarely doing more than 2 or 3 seasons max anyway these days.
In retrospect one of the obvious reasons the original show worked so well is that the majority of the actors would go on to be B+/A list actors, so it makes sense that Netflix didn't want to pay them their usual rates and wanted to introduce a new cast of unknown talent. But they wasted the good will those very talented name brand actors have for the series by not using them enough or optimizing the opportunities they were given on the other side of the camera as leverage to get them in front of the camera. Having the base premise be something like Eric losing his job in Chicago and needing to take a job teaching summer school in his hometown, the family staying with his parents until he can get a gig somewhere else would have been a great lead in. They could have let the kids story line unfold more or less as it went but ramping up slower, with the added detail that the kids were not really an existing friend group so much as a "Breakfast Club" that formed around Leia as a side effect of the show "catching up" with the OG cast as Eric/Donna are reuniting with their characters + Leia/the kids doing summer school. Instead of having Jackie and Kelso somehow getting together and having a kid immediately after the OG series timeline ends, which even Mila Kunis has said doesn't make any sense, they could have made them recently divorced from other people and getting back together during the events of the show as storyline. Making the new Kelso Michael's nephew, not his son, would have worked just fine because the character canonically has at least two brothers. Fez's storyline could have stayed pretty much the same, only better contextualized if situated in a format where the first 4 or so episodes of the show focus on catching up with a different OG character as the A storyline and then "resolving" their stories as the B storyline in the back 4 or so episodes. This would have set them up to let the kids take over for season two if the show had worked or just let it stand as a self-contained one season coda to the OG show that ended on an implied passing of the torch. The bad 90s detail references would have been fine if most of the heavy lifting on the acting and nostalgia had been carried by the OG actors, but it all came off like a bait-and-switch where they had learned nothing from the reasons that That 80s Show flopped.
Okay but the thing about 4K HD is so true. It’s almost like our shows are too high quality to fit the sitcom format these days because it’s just SO obvious that you’re watching a set
I just realized I'm depressed. Haven't been depressed like this in years. Your channel is one of the only things that keeps my attention and makes me laugh.... my laugh is more internal lately, but I'm hopeful I'll eventually get back to laughing out loud again. Soon...
Same
I moped around the house after watching the pilot. I mean, I knew it was unlikely they would be able to pull off the magic they did with That 70’s Show, but damn. I could barely squeak out a smile other than when they brought out the original cast members. 😞
Is that safe?
*hugs*
Did you watch past the first episode? It got better. The first episode was mostly reintroducing old characters and developing new ones.
Trust me if you liked the original then keep watching. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would and I'm so happy it's getting a second season
Your ads are hilarious!
Omg, THANK YOU!!! I was actually baffled at hearing people say that they loved this reboot.
The only parts I found remotely watchable was when the original cast was on screen. I feel like that was more because it was nostalgic, than due to any form of entertainment.
Also.... wasn't the "oh no. We don't have a tap for the keg" an episode of That 70s Show? Yes? It was. Weord. Between that and the mirroring of the original characters....just seems a little desperate to capture the success of the original. Which it fails at. Miserably.
about the 4k thing, i remember seeing the last hobbit movie in theaters and it looked so much different (hyper realistic) than the previous one that i had to take extra effort to get myself into the movie bc it felt more like a documentary than a movie.
Movies shot on 35mm film look better because they are not ultra sharp with realistic contrast and colors. The old 35mm movie film look makes it almost look like a dream which is exactly what you want because its all about escapism. 4K image quality with perfect colors makes it feel too much like real life, and thats not what you want
I grew up in the 90s and this show doesn't feel like the 90s! Feels like how some teen born in 2009 would imagine the 90s
I got to episode 3 and quit! You are exactly right - it kept getting worse as it went on lol. It tried way too hard, just like Girl Meets World