High price, for the history of the brand, a few design elements and that's it. The basic version, has 130 HP, at a weight of 1600 kg, I don't see where the dynamics are and its price is at least 35000 EUR, obviously depending on the equipment, it reaches about 60000, I don't see an optimal price-quality ratio.
@@jrs9264 Besides design, driving dynamics is part of what differentiate these cars from 'main stream' and it's also what brings some of the people into the brand. IMHO, extended warranty is (always) nice to have, but not necessarily in the 'must have' category, at least not for this brand. However, I can see this is not a car for you.
You have to pay the brand to go for Maserati ...but you also get a much more refined and luxury product (they're also bigger - more space is usually good). That being said, the small Maserati SUV, the Grecale, is built over the bigger Stelvio (Giorgio) platform,not related to the smaller Tonale.
I owned an Alfa Milano back in the 70's, and I'm 1/2 Italian. I'd be on this gorgeous SUV in 2 seconds if it wasn't a plug-in hybrid. Sorry, no electric vehicles for me. Alfa, what were you thinking? Offer an ICE option, for God's sake!
@@djross95 Plug-in Hybrid doesn't mean you have to plug it in at all. You can just charge it (or not) just by running it. However, my comment is more of a suggestion. Go for a Stelvio. You can still get a 100% ICE. Then it will all end in a near future and you will run out of options without electricity.
It's too bad it doesn't have the US made hybrid incentive $7500 would be great. (Only if you lease it, can you qualify) some good competition at this price though.
During the pandemic, I visited a few car dealerships, and AR was the only dealership in SoCal that didn't have any markup on their cars, and that really impressed me. For that reason alone, I will check this SUV out when I need to get a new one, and the new PHEV version seems really nice too. Question, does it have regenerative braking?
I test drove the car and there is no power in the pickup. The car looks handsome but the power is serverely lacking and drives nothing like an Alfa Romeo. And I have owned AR from the 156 to the Giulia.. 😅
Only the PHEV has AWD, rest are FWD. Also, when you properly drive your thumb shouldn't be like that but rather wrapped around it (hands in same position).
There's something special about Italian design. And I've been a fan of Alfa Romeo since the 164 first came out back in the 80s. However, I think the Italian-made Dodge Hornet is almost as good (and practically the same car) for 50% less money.
I've been also a fan of Italian cars. Design is part of it no doubt, but for me, what makes the difference is the way they drive and the technology behind their products that makes them drive the way they do. ...And of course I'm not talking about the infotainment. I'm talking about electronic helping the dynamics, mechanical solutions on their engines, suspension, etc.
The Hornet Plug in Hybrid is much closer in price. You can only get the Tonale as a plug in hybrid, whereas the Hornet has many different engine choices..PEACE OUT DAWG !!!
@@CarCoachReports Tonale and Hornet have virtually identical profiles and rear ends as well as very similar interiors - how could the average buyer not notice (assuming they are shopping both cars)?
Italian cars and reliability is a myth that's good for the competitors to keep as urban legend decade after decade. I've been driving Italian cars since the 80s and only had a lemon at the beginning of this century. And my preference is not only for the way they drive, is also for reliability, because I'm usually demanding on the mechanics. (faster acceleration driver by default)
No EVs or hybrids for me....Fiat group was run out of this country back in the 70s due to poor reliability. They had to buy Chrysler out of bankruptcy to get back in. A fancy Fiat brand still has a reliability issue, and putting them under Ferrari doesn't erase the Fiat influence. 🤔😳🤨🙄🧐 p.s. as for european car, i' d rather have the Hyundai Bayon, much less expensive to buy, operate, insurance, and better reliability. Even the Dacia Sandero would do what this vehicle does at a fraction of the cost....🤑💰
@@bobdavis3357i have used them for 20 years. they only see a dealer for maintenance or recall. unlike my relatives who drive Garbage Motors, Furd, or Crisisiler. two of them went bankrupt strictly on merit. the other one fired all their american engineers and brought over european ones to fix their junk cars. they ripped off mazda, volvo, range rover and jaguar, then sold them. to keep Lincoln, their premuim priced piece of junk. 💰🤑🤮🤡💯🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hyundai is Korean, not European. Fiat groups has been a good influence to have around. Many (if not all) car manufacturers use one or more patented stuff from FPT and the reliability issues from the 80s are still just in the mind of those who never owned their products.
Ferrari is not Stellantis, the prancing horse left the FCA group in 2015
True.
But if we look who's behind the 'wheels' of both companies, it's the same Exor holding company (that belongs to "fiat" Agnelli family)
High price, for the history of the brand, a few design elements and that's it. The basic version, has 130 HP, at a weight of 1600 kg, I don't see where the dynamics are and its price is at least 35000 EUR, obviously depending on the equipment, it reaches about 60000, I don't see an optimal price-quality ratio.
So many haters in the comments, geez. I think it look kinda basic for a luxury car. But I'm sure the driving dynamics is what sells ppl
sells what, extended warranties at owner expense? 🤑💰🤨
People who know nothing with stupid comments. Not you, those you’re talking about.
@@jrs9264 Besides design, driving dynamics is part of what differentiate these cars from 'main stream' and it's also what brings some of the people into the brand.
IMHO, extended warranty is (always) nice to have, but not necessarily in the 'must have' category, at least not for this brand.
However, I can see this is not a car for you.
Thank you for this review. I am a little conflicted between the Alfa and the Maserati. In your opinion which is the better brand? Thank you
Maserati doesn’t make an SUV this small. Both owned by the same company
Thank you for the response. My question remains the same. Regardless of size Which is the best brand.
You have to pay the brand to go for Maserati ...but you also get a much more refined and luxury product (they're also bigger - more space is usually good).
That being said, the small Maserati SUV, the Grecale, is built over the bigger Stelvio (Giorgio) platform,not related to the smaller Tonale.
@@miks564 Thank You..
One thing for sure they will charge you more for everything with Maserati. The Alfa parts and service are similar to BMW, Audi etc..
Great video the design is good
Since this is a 1.3L I vine, does it use regular fuel or will it still be premium
Regular.
I owned an Alfa Milano back in the 70's, and I'm 1/2 Italian. I'd be on this gorgeous SUV in 2 seconds if it wasn't a plug-in hybrid. Sorry, no electric vehicles for me. Alfa, what were you thinking? Offer an ICE option, for God's sake!
Its a plug in hybrid
@@CarCoachReports I know, it's the plug that turns me off. I may be in the minority, but I don't want that. Nice review as always, Lauren!
@@djross95 Plug-in Hybrid doesn't mean you have to plug it in at all. You can just charge it (or not) just by running it.
However, my comment is more of a suggestion. Go for a Stelvio. You can still get a 100% ICE.
Then it will all end in a near future and you will run out of options without electricity.
We have the gasser version in Canada!!
nice enuff car, cept the frunt end looks like sumone tore the horrn off an ugly rhino! 😅
i concur
God! Her voice..
It's too bad it doesn't have the US made hybrid incentive $7500 would be great. (Only if you lease it, can you qualify) some good competition at this price though.
For lease it has
Definitely a head turner. How long does the charge last in dynamic mode?
over 30 miles of electric-only driving range.
During the pandemic, I visited a few car dealerships, and AR was the only dealership in SoCal that didn't have any markup on their cars, and that really impressed me. For that reason alone, I will check this SUV out when I need to get a new one, and the new PHEV version seems really nice too. Question, does it have regenerative braking?
I test drove the car and there is no power in the pickup. The car looks handsome but the power is serverely lacking and drives nothing like an Alfa Romeo. And I have owned AR from the 156 to the Giulia.. 😅
Only the PHEV has AWD, rest are FWD.
Also, when you properly drive your thumb shouldn't be like that but rather wrapped around it (hands in same position).
A good thorough review.
Do you think it's better then the hornet rt 🤔
yes
Prefer a larger Maserati CUV. A lot more power. Power =😊
Check out the 2023 Maserati Grecale ua-cam.com/video/_k6iOBW9w-g/v-deo.html
Stelvio QV with 505 HP should answer your needs.
Great review thanks so much. Waiting for delivery on mine in March 2024.
Hope you enjoy it!
No floor mats?
There's something special about Italian design. And I've been a fan of Alfa Romeo since the 164 first came out back in the 80s. However, I think the Italian-made Dodge Hornet is almost as good (and practically the same car) for 50% less money.
I've been also a fan of Italian cars. Design is part of it no doubt, but for me, what makes the difference is the way they drive and the technology behind their products that makes them drive the way they do. ...And of course I'm not talking about the infotainment. I'm talking about electronic helping the dynamics, mechanical solutions on their engines, suspension, etc.
The Hornet Plug in Hybrid is much closer in price. You can only get the Tonale as a plug in hybrid, whereas the Hornet has many different engine choices..PEACE OUT DAWG !!!
Heavily related to the new Dodge Hornet but styling differences are commendable. The average buyer won't notice the kinship. 👍
Agreed!
The Hornet is based off the Tonale and both are made in the same plant in Italy...
@@CarCoachReports Tonale and Hornet have virtually identical profiles and rear ends as well as very similar interiors - how could the average buyer not notice (assuming they are shopping both cars)?
Oooh, another plug in with teensy motor. I will pass. You always have me sold during your reviews. But in the end, cubic inches and mega power win.
Right on
my Kona N disagrees . 0- 60 in 6.5, but 35 mpg on regular if you stay off the turbo. 🧐🤔🤨🤣
22nd thumbs up! I like this car, don't trust it's reliability though.
But it is DEF cool! Be a nice lease car.
I totally agree!
A Volvo is a nice car, bought or leased. same for Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, or Mazda. 💯🧐🤨
Italian cars and reliability is a myth that's good for the competitors to keep as urban legend decade after decade.
I've been driving Italian cars since the 80s and only had a lemon at the beginning of this century. And my preference is not only for the way they drive, is also for reliability, because I'm usually demanding on the mechanics. (faster acceleration driver by default)
@@jrs9264 I've a leased Volvo but bought an Alfa Romeo (Stelvio) because this one is for keeps. Not everyone thinks the same way. 😉
An Alpha Hornet. Looks better than the Hornet.
funny
lipstick on a pig....🐷🤣
Been here, seen this. Looks nice, but Italian. Unreliable
#3 amongs 30 brands as 2023
No EVs or hybrids for me....Fiat group was run out of this country back in the 70s due to poor reliability. They had to buy Chrysler out of bankruptcy to get back in. A fancy Fiat brand still has a reliability issue, and putting them under Ferrari doesn't erase the Fiat influence. 🤔😳🤨🙄🧐
p.s. as for european car, i' d rather have the Hyundai Bayon, much less expensive to buy, operate, insurance, and better reliability. Even the Dacia Sandero would do what this vehicle does at a fraction of the cost....🤑💰
Hyundai is a throw away car, too. But a Rolls compared to this Alpha
@@bobdavis3357i have used them for 20 years. they only see a dealer for maintenance or recall. unlike my relatives who drive Garbage Motors, Furd, or Crisisiler. two of them went bankrupt strictly on merit. the other one fired all their american engineers and brought over european ones to fix their junk cars. they ripped off mazda, volvo, range rover and jaguar, then sold them. to keep Lincoln, their premuim priced piece of junk. 💰🤑🤮🤡💯🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ferrari has had nothing to do with Alfa Romeo and FCA for almost ten years
Hyundai is Korean, not European.
Fiat groups has been a good influence to have around. Many (if not all) car manufacturers use one or more patented stuff from FPT and the reliability issues from the 80s are still just in the mind of those who never owned their products.
@@bobdavis3357 You should perhaps try to be inside of each one, I suspect it would be a surprise for you.
And that's ALFA, not Alpha.