Is Uber's Trip Radar Taking Over Ride Requests? Uber Algorithm CHANGE?
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Trip Radar is the most dangerous feature UBER has...as a Boston Driver, i almost ran into the barrier on Storrow Drive trying to read the ride details prior to accepting.
Exactly! It's bad enough to be on a ride, and you get a request, and you almost get into a wreck because of the distraction.
Fact!
They need to stop sending out trip request when drivers are making their final turns trying to navigate and not miss a street to their current destination.
Driver be like trying to confirm is this the syreey I turn on aND then dind-ding-dong the map gets overlayed with the next ride crap.
@@dmi1571 agreed
Stop talking requests while you're driving
that isn't trip radars fault it is the drivers fault (you)
Everyone when you accept a ride shut your app off until you’re done with the ride. It’s the safest way to go, no distractions.
Indeed
or just scroll up and click no new requests
Last night, I had so many trip radar requests pop up that it was ridiculous. They were a bunch of rides that weren't even worth it.
A driver shouldn’t even get trip radar while the cars in motion. Too Dangerous.
If I'm ever in a good mood....I know I can always count on watching Rideshare Guy videos to bring down my mood and stress me out
I’m in a smaller market near Buffalo. When there are more than one other driver in my area, all requests are going to Trip Radar now. If I’m the only one active, it comes in as exclusive. Huge change in the last 2 weeks.
Two things: they shifted a bulk of request to trip radar about 2 months ago (Atl). 2nd, it's about more profit when newbies accept but also less on their aws cpu cycles. Ex old way trip request from rider - hits aws server, server calculates closer 5-10 drivers then narrows that down to who is or isn't in a current ride, request to driver, driver doesn't accept back to server to start process second time before sending it to trip radar. In this process two more packets of data are sent from each driver lowering their acceptance rate. New setup request from rider to server, server pings all devices listening on socket, 3 acceptance come in and server routes to quickest pickup.
I had a request for 18.00 then it went to 23.00 in the trip radar I took it drove to pick up said I had arrived then it disappeared with no pay ! I even have the screenshot !
I also think since a lot of the new driver's using the Rental Car Program and they're required to complete at least 30 rides so all rides go to TR for LOW BALL RATES and the rides get snapped up and the 30 Ride get covered.
Here at Florida state is under flames with all the lunatics desperado taking all the trash rides under 4$ specially expensive areas like Miami and long rides like 1 hour time for 48 miles Uber paying To the driver 18$ ! really ?
and some drivers still taking !!! man they Going to end up Broke fast
Same in Atlanta. Too Many new drivers and leased vehicles. They take almost everything. smh
@@crystalcopeland5142 indeed ! there is no way to make money like that ! because they already lower the var for everyone else so cherry pick takes a long time to do it and doesn't matter where you go or wait is going to be the same sad results and so focus to find a new Job this gig economy only beneficiary the big company
I've picked up trips that were over an hour from trip radar. Including a 55 minute trip this morning.
Seeing same thing in Kansas city. I wish they only trip radar me with only trip to destination when i turn on destination filter.
1) There is no map for Trash Radar
2) I still have no clue what they are trying to match, ESPECIALLY on Eats
3) I don't get any reason for not being matched
The only place we have trip radar is when we are in the airport queue otherwise outside of the airport Q area. It’s still just regular pick up. I am in Pensacola Florida.
Sergio please help. I asked my passengers how much they are paying. One paid $10 and Uber paid me 3. Obviously I shouldn't take it anymore
Don't accept trips under a certain amount. I never accept under $12, pax or Eats, going a few miles.
EDIT: I'll drive far only if its a large surge 3x the amount or going in my direction toward home.
Yes in Charlotte
I've gotten reported for distracted driving. Because I have to fucking go on there and decline trash fucking trips that takes up my fucking screen. So I dont know where I'm going.
In the airport queue these trip radars pop up, trips from the airport. It seems like your position is irrelevant. You gotta be fast 🏃🏻♂️ too, like under 1 second, or you will get nothing.
Cannot access LAX queue anymore unless Diamond status. It's automatically full. I'm lucky if I even get a rematch as a Platinum and it's the worst of the worst that got rejected in the lot.
@lleon-cv4ex wow that's crazy!
I experienced this yesterday May 4, 2024. All but one ride. Every single ride was trip radar. On three of the rides I did not except trip radar. Each one immediately came back to me as a regular ride. And each one was under a five minute pick up. One of them went to Los Angeles. And one of them went to LAX. Third one was from UCI to the Wilton. Not quite sure why they’re using trip radar when I am the closest driver to the pick up. The other Was from a birthday party to their home. Which was off the freeway for the drop. And to their house. Which I like they’re quick and simple. 10 bucks
On the topic of dangerous features, please do something about the "Rider may record audio for safety" warning that completely freezes the app for 10 seconds and doesn't allow you to dismiss it, while you're in the middle of trying to see which side-street you currently need to turn onto
Amen! Agreed
You ever go mad long without a ride, then radar comes in with a decent offer and it GOES to someone else?! Fukc trip radar. And it's dangerous, takes mad long to go through, good 10 to 15 seconds.
I'm literally never waiting for a ride unless it's like 3am right before people start going to work. I'll sit maybe a total of 20 minutes per night waiting for rides assuming I only go offline for a break once. As soon as I get rolling I'm never really waiting for rides at all any time of day.
New Jersey doesn't have trip requests SMH
I can be the only driver in the area. Still shows on Trip Radar, then pings me when it vanishes.
Same, but I think sometimes trip radar goes there because no drivers wanted it. And then it pings and I still decline, then I'll see it again in radar. I only love surged radar Shop and Pays - those are amazing because it shows me that other drivers are refusing the crap trips and also waiting for Uber to surge it up before accepting
It is creating dangerous situation . I almost had accidents yesterday due to seeing if I’m match or not .
Trip radar is annoying. It used to show how many drivers it is going out to, There's a number next to the eyeball, Never saw more than 6. I think drivers accept anything and cancel if its bad. I;ve had a trip radar come back as a regular ping.
I've had many radars come back as that, but its because the pax re-requests. I've also seen it come back as Priority because no driver is picking the person up due to the mileage not being worth it. Drivers are opting into short local distance drop offs as opposed to longer trips.
And if you are waiting at the airport. Everytime leave the app it will send you empty radars. So it will radar ping you click on app and nothing is there.
One problem with trip radar is that if you are waiting to match on a trip, you might get another trip radar ping or and exclusive ping at the same time. So which trip are you supposed to take? Reject the exclusive trip while waiting for the match, dinging your AR? Or accept the exclusive trip that may or may not be better than the trip radar one you are waiting on?
AR means less than nothing
Dara doesn't give a F about dangerous distracted driving or CO2 emissions with no driver caps and 10 Ubers/Gryfts per pax driving around like bots for $15/hr. It's all about the $$, his options, and wicked Wall St.
I would say that Trip Radar here in Boston is about 50% junk (too far away or bad money) and 50% actual good rides but don't fit the standard strategy (perhaps don't say right in the best area). So it just comes down to your particular plan for the day if it is a good ride or not
I've noticed the same in Boston, too. I focus on local rides and I drive where ppl won't, for example, Worcester. Worcester is a beast and the rates are substantially lower but I only take what matches my desired mileage and destination. I now do about two to four rides in the morning before work going to the Worcester area (Millbury/Grafton/Auburn/Boylston), and then after work I do Eats and Pax pickup in Newton/Chestnut Hill, so I will do a destination to Star Market in Chestnut Hill, and I'll always have someone needing to go there since it surrounds Brookline, Allston/Brighton and Newton bleeds into almost everything. When I'm done, I drive straight up Route 9 home and I don't work past 7pm since my day job is 8am to 4pm.
Worcester is a beast, though. I no longer X-out of trips, I let them cancel out on their own. I'm almost certain that a lot of ppl just don't ever get to where they need to go because I've seen the same ones come to me over and over. Not so much when I'm in Boston proper, but mostly the suburbs
I've been doing Uber for 8yrs, and this new day job is my first regular job in over 14years.
Yes in Orlando
I had a radar trip come in drive 20 mins and 5.8 miles to pickup and drop off 18 mins and 6 miles. All for 7.58. This is getting ridiculous.
I didn’t take the trip this goes on all day and my rating goes down.
I can confirm your point on when it’s busy it’s regular ping. When it’s slow it’s trip radar primary over pings.
But you still think it’s where rides go to die. That’s not the fact all the time. Some may have died there. But not all.
I noticed trip radar has increased significantly on my app. The destination filter has almost completely stopped working. I have a very profitable way of driving that works probably only in my city, but the way the app has changed the last couple weeks is hurting my pockets.
This is Ubers response to cherry picking
Exactly. Had the same happen when my AR was low..and as soon I raised my AR, it went back to regular ride requests.
90ar diamond driver and I'm making 40hr at peak times and 32-34 during slow days average. Call me an ant but it works for me. Only rides I deny are ones that take me far enough out of the city where I know I won't have another rides queued up before that one ends.
Tbh I think this page screwed you all by telling everyone to cherry pick. I've always thought they tell people to tank their ar in an effort to get drivers to quit. Like their own way of addressing saturation by sabotaging their audience. Just what it feels like i don't think they are actually that evil.
correct
@@michaelbibby01 very silly
I have been driving in Dallas for 10 years for Uber and taxi before that, trip radar is ok but the way it works is wrong if you can’t take a selfie for Uber for verifications due to safety concern trip radar also applies to those drivers who are stationary and not driving then it will give the opportunity for everyone to look at or in a setup like airport queue not while driving, also the way it is now most driver bid on the trip without even know where it’s going then get the trip look at it and cancel it that’s why when you are at airport you see a trip coming on radar then someone took just to return back to radar screen 2 minutes later this is hurting both customers and drivers at the same time
I've seen the same ride on trip radar with different prices.
You guys see different things thatn us. We just see time in big font and travel time and direction in tiny font. That is it.
yup, no longer seen destinations , just how long the ride is and how long to the pick up..... no clue where we are going .
Looks kinda like what DD and IC have done with their tiered system.
I hate that you got be at higher tiers or rely on trip radar to know where I’m picking up and dropping off like Lyft so I know if want the ride or not
It’s all about your AR. If your AR is low coz of rejecting most of the rides they send you, they start sending you most trips through trip radar. Figured that much when my AR was at 20%.
I noticed that when I dropped below 80. Now I make sure I stay right at 90 ar
They'll send us like a 15 mile trip for $6 on trip radar driver rejects it and one minute later it shows up for the same money as a direct ping in Chicago. So it's a way to nail your acceptance rate twice
You guys are disgusting
My AR is at 42% and still get bombed with TR
@@iamjjwalker4925 I'm at 90 and never see it unless I just first log in
Off topic. Uber and Lyft are acting as NEMT where they are paid $100+ for a trip and only paying us $5. Boosts tend to be higher after completing these trips. NEMT drivers are typically trained, w2;employees and required to have a certain vehicle and insurance. Yet Uber and Lyft can magically override those state rules and Knight us as NEMT vehicles and drivers. No this is exploitation. The Govt doesn't want to help because they don't represent self employed even though we pay taxes. Religious organizations don't pay taxes but have Govt representation. .this is madness! The Govt needs to acknowledge that gig workers make the world go round. The Govt needs to do more to regulate ride share to protect drivers from the abuse we are enduring as drivers..
I get good delivery rides for $2.49 for 20 minutes possibly more time added. Ridiculous!!!! An hour ride that pays 17 bucks wtf?
You hit the nail on the head. I also believe trip radar is uber's way of opening the door for bots to game the system in LA. I've had several riders tell me they've been on trips where the driver had someone in the passenger seat that they were "training" It makes sense. Why would Uber care if a bot is grabbing trips since they get paid regardless. Its going to be hilarious once Uber's deceptive practices get exposed one day. You can only steal for so long🤣🤣🤣
Individual ones are saying exclusively but mostly it’s trip radar . I’d say 10% exclusive and 90% is trip radar match .
If there is a trip radar that is so low nobody bites, tjey will sens it to you on a trip request so you kill your AR if you don't take it.
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I HAVE TO PUT THE COFFEE ☕️ CUP
I’ve never seen trip radar while on a trip.
Trip radar is the last season of the hanger game.
you guys didn't get the notification about this ? i did, "you can now choose the rides that you want.' its an improvement to the platform. sorry i don't have the screen update on this...
We aren’t competing with other drivers on trip radar as much as it is Uber controlling us. With the way some of these trip radar requests get taken up, it’s a thing to consider. Oh, $17 for a seven mile, 20 min ride? Let’s pull that back and say another driver took the request.
OR you pull over and scroll
Turn off new trip request if you are driving.
The race to the bottom has begun.
Drivers should do exactly what they do during a protest on a daily basis and that would create surges. Drivers also need to work line a contractor instead of picking whatever comes out and that would also create surges. PUT THE WORD OUT!
Complaining about people picking up scrap offers in trip radar, then minutes later complaining about not getting a ride toward destination filter and saying "i have my df set up, i want to go there, im gonna accept that trip I DONT CARE HOW MUCH IT IS BECAUSE THAT DOESNT MATTER " is wild 😂😂😂
Never set the filter, screen it your own lazy arse. They will low ball the offers.
@@ricky4673 I never did for awhile but DF worked well for me yesterday and Thurs for rush hour in Boston suburbs (Worcester). It's always a HIGH demand, so I set the filter and was matched properly. However, during the morning I don't set the filter even though its rush hour, just the 4pm to 5pm window
Turn it off after you accept a ride until you are ready to ride again.
indeed
More trip radars in Vegas, than a few months ago! But you have to be the fastest finger in the west to get a good one. Then they come back with a $4-5 crap regular choice ride! BS control!
Trip radar is a big safety issue . This is gonna cause accidents. I see major lawsuits happening because of this
I have noticed a lot of this trip radar takeover also, do not like it at all.
I don't know what either of you is saying about multiple trips popping up while driving. It doesn't allow that anymore. You have to be stopped. So maybe at a light or in slow traffic, but not regular speed. It will only present one. That said, if I stop the car, suddenly nothing pops up. If I'm rolling, it will only show the worst options of several that would present.
I see that sometimes, too. It comes and goes, but overall yes. If your stopped, sometimes it doesn't want to show anything but when your moving, they ping like crazy
Why work for them? Pay is bad enough and NOW all the game playing! Peace out!😂
Trip radar sucks. They want me to go up to 20 minutes in another direction and with no care about the fact I am driving an electric vehicle. Most trips on radar wastes my EV power
Surge with Sergio
Does anyone else notice that every time one platform does a nonsense change the other platform usually does the exact same thing ? Almost as if they are the same company....
Burger King always copying McD's, etc.
That bull crap is gonna make someone have a bad accident.
Wridz ride share is going to take over Lyft and Uber within 1 year!
It’s almost a waste of time and technology when you are the closest to the pick up. Makes absolutely no sense. None of them were shit right. They were all good rides
Wridz ride share pays drivers 100% of the fare riders are paying maybe in your city already
Some of these offers are so bad, they need trip radar to find a big enough fool to accept them. Rides that take 35-40 minutes to complete and pay $6-7 are money losers. Offering them to drivers one at time May take forever til someone takes it. They have to offer it to hundreds of drivers at a time to make sure one clueless person says yes.
Someone need to create an app from driver to drivers. Get rid of Uber and Lyft!!
One thing to say Trip Radar Sucks.
UBER and LYFT are not the problem. Drivers are the problem, here in California drivers we are not united, so that's the real problem we UBER and LYFT are screwing us... a lot of stupid drivers out there 😡😡😡😡
I think it's a misconception believing that drivers are taking trash rides. I believe the Uber and Lyft are pitting drivers against each other by offering different amounts for rides depending on the driver. I.e offering some drivers bonuses and quest.
It''s just a matter of time before states enact laws that TNC requests can only be sent to a driver when they are stopped. Remember this Comment !
True! Remember when we had to do a selfie verif? We could do it while driving. Now you have to be stopped to take the selfie. Uber's notif says, "Please pull over before taking picture"
Lyft won't let you text the pax while driving toward them
Trip Radar is biggest BS from Uber
Well my goal it’s to brake their algorithms not matter what our 🧠 are better that that it’s very simple to do it example I pick up only 5 to to 10 tripa 35 trips total by 7 days that’s a least 3500 dollars profit at month working part time in a regular services or x trips with a regular car 🚗
No sound I die face no more..
Hunger game
Nothing ever gets done but complaining, nobody is striking but a few, everyone talks but talk is cheap until you back it up with action. I like what you guys are doing but until we organize or better yet Unionize it’s going nowhere.
Stop calling it Uber. The name should be Luber and I think you know what I mean
Or Screwber
I'm gonna say more like your AR is so low that Uber is only sending you trash at this point. I've never even seen trip radar during a ride. I'm at a 90ar and still averaging 34ish per hour throughout the week. Up to 40hr or higher during peak times. Cherry picking screwed you all.
We ain't dumb as you think. If I were to accept 90% of what Uber sends me I would literally lose money.
We all know you work for them.
Keep sucking up to these criminals. Soon you’ll be broke.
I still got trash rides when I had 90% AR and 2% CR. Or maybe that’s the problem this whole time. I drive for profits and it’s on Uber’s end to make me give a fuck about accepting rides on their platform. We are independent contractors and are free to accept or decline an offer without repercussion. No way I’m beating my car down for a 9 mile, half hour round tripper for $9 when I could be patient and stick around for that one ride that would pay me fairly, let alone pay me my worth. And when I’m still given shit, I’ll call Uber’s bluff and make it my worth when I know damn well I’m getting paid less than half a passenger is paying for a ride. Oh, a 15 mile, hour long ride for $25 in California traffic? Cool. I’ll accept. Just don’t get mad when I cancel on arrival and offer to give the ride to the passenger off the app for $45. Pay me or trade me.
@@NiceBoysWin Yup! Same here. I made $121 for 3-hours, I waited for the good ones. I go off line for a bit until I'm matched with the rides I want. Due to my household having a main source of income, we both got jobs roughly around the same time. 3 sources of income, Uber is our 4th on the side only. I work a few trips before work and after work. This is just until debt is paid off and paid down, then I will only do it for leisure, fun or to save up for a new car. I no longer use Uber as a sole source of income
Is the the Uber fault is these dummies drivers they don't know how to manipulate the Uber app I hope it gets worst
California is beyond safurated with drivers. Horrible government policies is destroying california.
This is all driver fault.