It's such a relief when you get to hear that the jury was hearing the evidence and digesting it in the same manner as the rest of us. It's scary wondering if you'll get justice or not (i.e. Casey Anthony trial) and what exactly the jury is thinking when receiving all this information. What an intelligent and thoughtful group of people! Kudos!
Sadly I don't think they got Lori's sentencing right...I don't see the purpose of keeping these two alive taking away tax payer resources. These two have nothing positive to contribute to the world. Also upsetting is that they still have access to have communication with their followers and look like a martyr. Who's to say that the followers aren't as well planning on harming people in the future but if they did I wouldn't be surprised. This is a dangerous cult...
Wow. Impressive amount of clarity and attention to detail. Seems like she put this jigsaw puzzle of a case together very quickly. Well done, juror. Thank you for your service.
The only time he showed emotion was when people spoke well of Tammy. He's a narcissist and his whole defense was a smear campaign against Tammy, along with the badmouthing her before she died. When people said nice things about her, said she had friends, she was loved, it made him visibly angry. He shook his head, he'd fidget, turned red. To him, she was his property and he was done with her. It killed him to think she was a person independent of him and that she was loved and valued for more than just being his wife.
Chad has said he has always know his life had a first and a second part & that Tammy would die young. So instead of taking his beloved wife for a yearly checkup to make sure she stayed healthy ? No…. He knew he would be free to have a new life & new wife because he felt HE deserved it. Well he did get a second part of his life , new wife ,and even a new home, for each of the separately. 🤡🤡
“Chad had the grave ready to go, so Alex didn’t have to stay long” Very insightful! She caught things the prosecution never brought up! Very smart jury!
💯 Anything Chad would've said in his defense would've been a lie. He had to have realized that the lies that his children told under oath didn't help him at all. Emma and Garth's testimonies helped the prosecution by providing even more evidence that Chad has complete control over the people who love him. IMO Chad knows that he only has power over the people who love and trust him so he didn't waste his time trying to manipulate the jury.
A lawyer with a YT channel believes their strategy is to appeal with the notion that they believe the law (or whatever it is) that says if you hire an attorney, you won't have access to the state attorneys. He chose to pay his attorney, and Prior's "defense" was that if Chad were to opt for the latter, then Prior would have to step down off the case. So, we'll see how it plays out if that really is their strategy. If it is, then maybe that's why Chad seemed so smug at times and didn't say anything in his defense at the end.
This story would be very embarrassing for Chad to convey to a jury and Tammy’s family. He is disgusting and vile. The poor kids and then Tammy, when she realized that her husband of 29 years was killing her. The betrayal that Tammy experienced from her own husband and some strange man suffocating her.
@@annwithaplan9766I doubt he’ll get an appeal and if he does, it won’t be on the guilt portion. Maybe the DP. Either way, he’ll never see the light of day again outside a jail cell.
Extremely smart jurors. We’ve seen so much NONSENSE from the justice system completely slapping people on the wrist. Thank god this was taken all the way.
@@bcoull290I feel it’s not that they didn’t think she did it but they felt the prosecution didn’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Also, charging her with capital murder was too high.
Such an impressive woman, as all the jurors I've seen speak out are. Was so understandable that they had to "vent" around the room when they first were allowed to talk, and how chathartic that was she said. I certainly get that. What is amazing to me are so many little things we thought the jury would miss... not only did they NOT miss these little things.. they saw even more. Exemplary group of individuals who took their oaths and responsibilities seriously. This is why jury system is so important to participate in. Thank you Juror #11 for your service. Thanks Justin... you have been covering since the early days and so glad jurors are interviewing with you. I did note, she said she would be following the trial in AZ!
I agree with this juror. It was shocking to have him sit like a statue through the trial, then remain silent when he had a chance to defend himself or explain something-- anything!
Actually, she may have caused an appeal. The law clearly states that you can’t use it against a defendant if they don’t speak on their behalf or testify. I won’t be surprised if what she said comes back as an issue
It's such a relief when you get to hear that the jury was hearing the evidence and digesting it in the same manner as the rest of us. It's scary wondering if you'll get justice or not (i.e. Casey Anthony trial) and what exactly the jury is thinking when receiving all this information. What an intelligent and thoughtful group of people! Kudos!
@@LifesPeachy321 every time I asked that same question, back when it happened, I was repeatedly told it was because the prosecutor over charged her. If I had been on that jury, it wouldn't have mattered to me. If he charged her with world annihilation, I still would have said "guilty". I don't understand why that made any difference to that jury. I'm still mad, too!
@@Junitunes I think that on Chad's light/dark number scale that he arbitrarily used to condemn others to death, his own number was so dark that he was the one sentenced to death. Seems fitting.
Tracy, after watching the first month of the trial from home in SLC, I drove to Boise because I had to see the jury. I was concerned about all of you; I was concerned for your mental well-being and I was wondering how you could possibly make sense of all the information. After being there for a couple of days it was obvious what an amazing group you were. You stood out to me. I could see that you were understanding it all. Thank you for your service! And thank you for sharing your experiences in this interview. ❤️
Saying Chad was a good law abiding citizen before all this is a bit meaningless, I mean, so was Chris Watts. Prior had an impossible challenge and did what he could, Chad is where he belongs
I think if his life could be examined, a personality disorder would show up , he seemed a barely functioning fantasist , comfortable with lying and also manipulating family , Tammy to support him financially , church members/ family to provide him with money / property for his " visions of his own glory"
“I know you k!lled 3 people in the worst possible way and two were children but since you have never had a parking ticket we are gunna let you off the hook” 😂😂😂
@@samporter2146he DEF a narcissist but if we dig a little deeper, he has no shame or fear and that means he’s also a psych0path. Using the video of him in the cop car as a great example… he said “I’m not coming back” with zero anxiety, and he didn’t bat an eye at kids being found on his property (no shame). He also showed lack of anxiety and shame at the trial. Meanwhile narcs have DEEP shame and lots of anxiety. Lori is an exception bc she’s mentally ill too
Could not agree more. I really felt bad for Garths friend. He was put in a difficult situation. Thank God for those who fought for justice when her own children wouldn't.
Well for accuracy , Garths workmate did not recall himself what Garth had said , his parents recalled and reminded him of what he had recalled on this conversation. If he could not recall , just how much attention could he have been paying when Garth spoke , and did he repeat it correctly to his parents ? Memories are not particularly accurate at times. I feel Garth's memories were more impressionistic, maybe subject to the strange confusing horror of it all. I don't think he lied .
Thank you Justin for your coverage on this case!!! I’ve been following it since you and Nate Eaton first stated reporting on it back in 2020. Both of you have done an amazing job & the public really appreciates all your hard work!! I am glad Charles Vallow will get his justice in Arizona soon as well. Also Brandon Boudroux!
JJ's grave was dug so perfectly with such squared-off corners. I've seen cases where bodies were buried in the woods. The graves tend to be raggedy and sloppy. A professional dug JJ's grave.
Fantastic interviewer and interviewee! What a horrific thing to go through. Traumatic. I hope these intelligent and dedicated jurors can find peace and healing.
It’s so satisfying to have seen the prosecutors do such a good job, based on law enforcement’s excellent work and topped off with jurors who took their job seriously and a judge was fair and impartial.
The big joke was that Chad was naïve because his only relationship experience was Tammy. That was bullcrap, he had an affair with another woman before Lori.
Yeah, at least one. I think he was messing with that other crack pot, Julie… and then dropped her like a hot potato when he met Lori. The levels of gross for this man is endless. 🤢
@@vonniemichelle3670yes for sure I think he was messing with Julie Rowe as well which explains why Julie didn’t like Lori at the beginning…Julie Rowe was another person saying that the kids were safe as well & that she knew where the kids were 🙃
Totally amazing coverage right from day one. Hearing from the various jurors I have so much appreciation for how they handled themselves and the case.so big thanks to them
@@MicheleFlynn-yz6ee ok, here goes. It started back in George w days, when everyone who backed him (and that wrong war) followed fix news exclusively. That's how they got away with the lies about the need for the war. Weapons of mass destruction, babies ripped from incubators, it was so insane. Fix was pushing it all. So FOX NEWS became FAUX NEWS because we knew it was all BS. Got it now?
My ex didn't believe in divorce - had a secret life for 8 yrs. My late husband also cheated on the down low. I never caught him but I stayed because we. Built a great life & I was set up by him to collect his SS every month before he passed. Ive been a widow for 4 yrs - a life sentence deprived!
No one said that. He didn’t WANT a divorce. He knew he COULD get one but just didn’t want to because 1) it’s frowned upon and he wanted to appear righteous 🙄, and 2) death= pay day.
Wait until she finds out about Joe Ryan. Oh no, honey… Lori was batsh*t crazy before Chad. You’d have to already be nuts to give that man the time of day. Let’s be real. PS: thank you for your service! ❤
@@fridaytiedayI'm a brunette with mostly blonde in my brain when it comes to technology. It's why I won't take a life. The little part of brunette in my brain knows they can find everything in your devices and i don't know how they do it. Blondes don't have more fun in prison tho. 😅
This is one intelligent and thoughtful lady. I want to be her friend! Thank you for your service and the interview Justin. Your show soon with Lori’s trial for Charles. Time for justice for Charles.
I love that she ironed, when that's all she could do, in her hotel room. Because every hotel room has an iron & ironing board and it IS relaxing to iron!! My Mom used to always hum to herself when she ironed. ❤
Chad never held a high position in the church. He was an executive secretary, which is the jackpot if you want to see how the sausage is made, but he was never a bishop, which isn't all that high. I think this was part of his frustration. Having visions allows you to end run around the hierarchy, unless you take it too far.
This causes a great many hurt feelings as usually the same 10 to 12 people get higher callings and they just switch out. It is the same in the women’s organizations. Also money plays a huge part. If you are wealthy you will get a high calling and so will your wife. So normal middle of the road people are overlooked no matter how talented or spiritual they are.
I am so impressed with the jurors in both Chad and Lori's trials. I have followed since Hawaii and juror #11 is really impressive in how she is breaking down all the crazy information ⚖️
Chad was most definitely physically involved in the brutal murder, mutilation, and burning of Tylee's body. Maybe not JJ's. It would take far too long for just one person to carry this out. His text to Tammy was very revealing of his involvement.
Yes. He smiled during closing each time what was done to Tylee’s body was mentioned. It was like he was reliving this and was proud of it. Also, his text to Tammy about the raccoon, burning limbs, etc. put him right there at the scene. He hated Tylee because she disliked him. Her uncle Alex was just an executioner and would have probably just have disposed of her body the same way he did J.J.s. Also Chad mentioned “turning up the pain”.
What happened to JJ when Chad carried him upstairs and came down later red-faced and without JJ? Melanie Gibbs asked Chad what happened -cos he had scratches on his neck and red faced. Chad reportedly said it was Because JJ had inflicted the scratches on him. That was the last time JJ was seen standing on his feet active and talking. It's possible when Alex carried what appeared to be a sleeping JJ home late that night, it may have been pretentiously set up to appear JJ was still Alive.
I just can't imagine being on this jury. Hats off to all of them. Very long, emotionally draining trial. I pray they can get past all the horrible things they have seen and heard
I'm sure Chad had some weird pseudo-religious reason for staying silent. Personally I hope he never speaks again. Let him fade into oblivion where he belongs.
Thank you Juror number 11. The world watched this trial on pins and needles and you assured justice was served for Tammy, Tylee and J.J. ❤ there was so much more that never even made it to trial…but you guys got it right! 🙏🏻 for you all!
Thank you, Juror #11, and all your jury team! We trust your judgment! Edit: perhaps his last defiant act was not speaking as if to diminish Hon Judge power in the courtoom. I think judge Boyce read him right - defiant!
It’s not. Chad wanted MONEY, he wasn’t trying to avoid sinning. He also wanted to be a widower instead of a divorce because in his culture it’s shunned to divorce and he wanted to appear righteous. So it has zero to do with following religious doctrine and everything to do with EGO.
It doesn’t matter. If the state can’t prove her intent then she won’t be prosecuted since perjury is 100% about intent and not giving accurate testimony. We need to leave it be- we may not like the kids that testified but they’ve been through h3ll for the past 5 years because their father is a psych0path and k!lled their mom and then brainwashed them to boot. Time to let it go and hope they all come to their senses and heal with time.
Seems like him and Lori made a pact to look smug and don’t talk. It didnt surprise me he remained quiet. He would have talked and took a plea awhile back. He looks so smug. His quiet stillness ,shows me he still thinks he is right. He is proud of what they did He is evil, what did we expect? No remorse or care
Totally agree. He would never speak or give a comforting word to the families. His final petty revenge against Tammy and her family is instructing his children to abandon them. He knew how much hurt it caused when they refused to visit their dying grandmother and would not attend her funeral.
They both have narcissistic personality disorder. Smugness naturally comes with the disorder. The main difference is that Chad knows he’s a fraud and Lori is so delulu that she actually thinks she’s a goddess and that god won’t hold these murd3rs against her bc she got a freebie (so to speak)
The jurors got this right. Thank you all for your service
It's such a relief when you get to hear that the jury was hearing the evidence and digesting it in the same manner as the rest of us. It's scary wondering if you'll get justice or not (i.e. Casey Anthony trial) and what exactly the jury is thinking when receiving all this information. What an intelligent and thoughtful group of people! Kudos!
Juror 11 has very clear understanding. That is amazing!
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Sadly I don't think they got Lori's sentencing right...I don't see the purpose of keeping these two alive taking away tax payer resources. These two have nothing positive to contribute to the world. Also upsetting is that they still have access to have communication with their followers and look like a martyr. Who's to say that the followers aren't as well planning on harming people in the future but if they did I wouldn't be surprised. This is a dangerous cult...
Wow. Impressive amount of clarity and attention to detail. Seems like she put this jigsaw puzzle of a case together very quickly. Well done, juror. Thank you for your service.
Our justice system was in good hands with this jury. Fantastic job Tracie.
She is an amazing articulate juror.. Wow thank you for your service!
The only time he showed emotion was when people spoke well of Tammy. He's a narcissist and his whole defense was a smear campaign against Tammy, along with the badmouthing her before she died. When people said nice things about her, said she had friends, she was loved, it made him visibly angry. He shook his head, he'd fidget, turned red. To him, she was his property and he was done with her. It killed him to think she was a person independent of him and that she was loved and valued for more than just being his wife.
Perfectly said.
You said it as it is! 100%
I agree. I also feel as if the patriarchy is trying to gain a hold of us again. That is not happening.
Chad has said he has always know his life had a first and a second part & that Tammy would die young. So instead of taking his beloved wife for a yearly checkup to make sure she stayed healthy ? No…. He knew he would be free to have a new life & new wife because he felt HE deserved it.
Well he did get a second part of his life , new wife ,and even a new home, for each of the separately. 🤡🤡
@@loribaker8339He also smirked every time someone said that Alex believed him 100%
Oh my goodness! This woman is exactly right! She’s amazing!
The jurors I’ve seen speaking out are so well spoken, intelligent and approached the case completely unbiased. Justice has been served.
“Chad had the grave ready to go, so Alex didn’t have to stay long” Very insightful! She caught things the prosecution never brought up! Very smart jury!
good point
He absolutely did.
Does that mean that JJ was murdered at alex apt with the bag over his head & duct taped by his arms and put in bag ?
@@ritaeichler2066It's tragic and horrifying that your theory makes sense. 😢
Maybe the prosecution already figured that out. Many of us watching figured the same thing.
This lady was great!
I appreciate that she told her experience without a lot of extra rhetoric. Very interesting and Informative!
Thanks Justin!
Wow this juror is so perceptive & intelligent!
Very smart lady, very smart jury. Thank you all for your service
I absolutely love and appreciate Justin. He asks the questions and let's his guests take as long as they need, without cutting anyone off😊
You and Nate have been so amazing!! Thank you for covering this for the public!
What an intelligent, well spoken juror. Great job!
Chad had zero to say because there is absolutely nothing he could say to justify his crimes.
💯 Anything Chad would've said in his defense would've been a lie. He had to have realized that the lies that his children told under oath didn't help him at all. Emma and Garth's testimonies helped the prosecution by providing even more evidence that Chad has complete control over the people who love him. IMO Chad knows that he only has power over the people who love and trust him so he didn't waste his time trying to manipulate the jury.
A lawyer with a YT channel believes their strategy is to appeal with the notion that they believe the law (or whatever it is) that says if you hire an attorney, you won't have access to the state attorneys. He chose to pay his attorney, and Prior's "defense" was that if Chad were to opt for the latter, then Prior would have to step down off the case. So, we'll see how it plays out if that really is their strategy. If it is, then maybe that's why Chad seemed so smug at times and didn't say anything in his defense at the end.
He knew better than to take the stand. He couldn't have gone face to face with Prosecutors' questioning .
This story would be very embarrassing for Chad to convey to a jury and Tammy’s family. He is disgusting and vile. The poor kids and then Tammy, when she realized that her husband of 29 years was killing her. The betrayal that Tammy experienced from her own husband and some strange man suffocating her.
@@annwithaplan9766I doubt he’ll get an appeal and if he does, it won’t be on the guilt portion. Maybe the DP. Either way, he’ll never see the light of day again outside a jail cell.
Extremely smart jurors. We’ve seen so much NONSENSE from the justice system completely slapping people on the wrist. Thank god this was taken all the way.
Absolutely!
The Casey Anthony case still haunts me. They got it wrong.
@@bcoull290I feel it’s not that they didn’t think she did it but they felt the prosecution didn’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Also, charging her with capital murder was too high.
Tracie, you are truly amazing and thanks for being so humble!
Such an impressive woman, as all the jurors I've seen speak out are. Was so understandable that they had to "vent" around the room when they first were allowed to talk, and how chathartic that was she said. I certainly get that. What is amazing to me are so many little things we thought the jury would miss... not only did they NOT miss these little things.. they saw even more. Exemplary group of individuals who took their oaths and responsibilities seriously. This is why jury system is so important to participate in. Thank you Juror #11 for your service. Thanks Justin... you have been covering since the early days and so glad jurors are interviewing with you. I did note, she said she would be following the trial in AZ!
Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
All my prayers were answered for a good jury and for them to understand and for justice to be done.
I agree with this juror. It was shocking to have him sit like a statue through the trial, then remain silent when he had a chance to defend himself or explain something-- anything!
I think sitting in a small closet of a cell in solitary confinement is a good place for the delusional manipulator that he is.
He should have and could have apologized
That couple is pure evil
I literally was watching to see if he would move he wasso creepy
Actually, she may have caused an appeal. The law clearly states that you can’t use it against a defendant if they don’t speak on their behalf or testify. I won’t be surprised if what she said comes back as an issue
😊well it wasn’t what got him her guilty verdict
Great interview with juror #11. Justin Lum. Thank you Tracy , and all the jurors for your service during this grueling trial . God bless you all. ❤️
It's such a relief when you get to hear that the jury was hearing the evidence and digesting it in the same manner as the rest of us.
It's scary wondering if you'll get justice or not (i.e. Casey Anthony trial) and what exactly the jury is thinking when receiving all this information. What an intelligent and thoughtful group of people! Kudos!
I still am gravely troubled by Casey getting away with murder!
@@denisekinzle1672 I'd like to hear how that jury came to that conclusion. She was so guilty.
@@denisekinzle1672agree!
@@LifesPeachy321 as I would. Agreed.
@@LifesPeachy321 every time I asked that same question, back when it happened, I was repeatedly told it was because the prosecutor over charged her. If I had been on that jury, it wouldn't have mattered to me. If he charged her with world annihilation, I still would have said "guilty". I don't understand why that made any difference to that jury. I'm still mad, too!
I'm not even going to say, "the jurors got this right;" I'm going to say "I respect the jury's decision and I appreciate their civic participation"
She is very thorough! The Prosecution laid it out well.
She was a perfect choice to be on the jury. Very level-headed with common sense.
Thank you, Justin.
AND FINALLY CHAD GOT THE 0 PERCENT DEATH TOLL!!! HE HAD NO PROBLEM SENTENCING A 7 YEAR OLD BOY AND 16 YEAR OLD
For any feeling any kind of sympathy for Chad’s fate now, this comment is so 🎯! Brings everything into perspective. 👍
What does that mean?
I just looked it up. This means there's no deaths associated with an event... Isn't this kinda the exact opposite of that? 5 people died
@@Junitunes I think that on Chad's light/dark number scale that he arbitrarily used to condemn others to death, his own number was so dark that he was the one sentenced to death. Seems fitting.
Tracy, after watching the first month of the trial from home in SLC, I drove to Boise because I had to see the jury. I was concerned about all of you; I was concerned for your mental well-being and I was wondering how you could possibly make sense of all the information. After being there for a couple of days it was obvious what an amazing group you were. You stood out to me. I could see that you were understanding it all. Thank you for your service! And thank you for sharing your experiences in this interview. ❤️
Great to see you Justin! Thank you, Tracie, and all the jurors who served on this case!
Saying Chad was a good law abiding citizen before all this is a bit meaningless, I mean, so was Chris Watts. Prior had an impossible challenge and did what he could, Chad is where he belongs
True
If I'm not mistaken, same with Scott Peterson too.
I think if his life could be examined, a personality disorder would show up , he seemed a barely functioning fantasist , comfortable with lying and also manipulating family , Tammy to support him financially , church members/ family to provide him with money / property for his " visions of his own glory"
“I know you k!lled 3 people in the worst possible way and two were children but since you have never had a parking ticket we are gunna let you off the hook” 😂😂😂
@@samporter2146he DEF a narcissist but if we dig a little deeper, he has no shame or fear and that means he’s also a psych0path. Using the video of him in the cop car as a great example… he said “I’m not coming back” with zero anxiety, and he didn’t bat an eye at kids being found on his property (no shame). He also showed lack of anxiety and shame at the trial. Meanwhile narcs have DEEP shame and lots of anxiety. Lori is an exception bc she’s mentally ill too
These jurors are such quality people so impressed with Theo strength and intelligence ❤❤❤
I’m so happy they believed Garth’s Halloween buddy over Garth bc yah he did not have a reason to lie
Could not agree more. I really felt bad for Garths friend. He was put in a difficult situation. Thank God for those who fought for justice when her own children wouldn't.
I actually feel bad for poor Garth. Raised like he was and made to lie for his poor excuse of a father. How will he overcome that
If Garth changes his name and moves to Maine. He’ll probably be okay.
Well for accuracy , Garths workmate did not recall himself what Garth had said , his parents recalled and reminded him of what he had recalled on this conversation. If he could not recall , just how much attention could he have been paying when Garth spoke , and did he repeat it correctly to his parents ? Memories are not particularly accurate at times. I feel Garth's memories were more impressionistic, maybe subject to the strange confusing horror of it all. I don't think he lied .
@@erinjames3302He's a grown man. No one "made him" do a thing.
Thanks so much, Tracy, for sharing with us your experience. And thank you for your service. Thanks Justin.
This juror is very articulate! Smart gal!
Thank you Justin for your coverage on this case!!! I’ve been following it since you and Nate Eaton first stated reporting on it back in 2020. Both of you have done an amazing job & the public really appreciates all your hard work!! I am glad Charles Vallow will get his justice in Arizona soon as well. Also Brandon Boudroux!
This is definitely the juror we would want on all cases. Thank you for serving our justice system.
Fabulous interview - these jurors are really good! Thank you! 🙏
JJ's grave was dug so perfectly with such squared-off corners. I've seen cases where bodies were buried in the woods. The graves tend to be raggedy and sloppy. A professional dug JJ's grave.
Yes, I agree. We all know who was the skilled one was.
Noting how Chad always organized his desk PERFECTLY? he can’t even be sloppy when rushing to dig a grave. 🙄
A control freak through and through.
Omg . I cant believe that the prosecutor didnt emphasize this fact!
Thank you Tracy! And Justin many thanks to you for your dedicating to these cases.
Fantastic interviewer and interviewee! What a horrific thing to go through. Traumatic. I hope these intelligent and dedicated jurors can find peace and healing.
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What a wonderful person to have on a jury! She's intelligent, well spoken, empathetic, and fair. I'm grateful that she was on this jury!
This juror is sharp as a tack- thank you for your service!
It’s so satisfying to have seen the prosecutors do such a good job, based on law enforcement’s excellent work and topped off with jurors who took their job seriously and a judge was fair and impartial.
Thank you, Justin. That was great! I love that you have been with this from the start and I truly appreciate your journalistic approach.
TY for your coverage.
Excellent interview. Thank you, Justin!
Tracy I appreciate your ability to speak! You guys got it so right and everyone is so grateful for your service. Thank you!!!
The big joke was that Chad was naïve because his only relationship experience was Tammy. That was bullcrap, he had an affair with another woman before Lori.
Did he? How do you know?
Yeah, at least one. I think he was messing with that other crack pot, Julie… and then dropped her like a hot potato when he met Lori. The levels of gross for this man is endless. 🤢
@@vonniemichelle3670yes for sure I think he was messing with Julie Rowe as well which explains why Julie didn’t like Lori at the beginning…Julie Rowe was another person saying that the kids were safe as well & that she knew where the kids were 🙃
I don't know for sure if he did, but those accounts of how Chad behaved with Julie Rowe make me think he did. Wouldn't surprise me.
@@JetPackDino i think Tammy definitely knew about him possibly messing with Julie…he made sure that she wouldn’t find out about Lori
Thank you so much for serving on the jury. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been. Great interview! ❤
Totally amazing coverage right from day one. Hearing from the various jurors I have so much appreciation for how they handled themselves and the case.so big thanks to them
I wonder if any of the jurors caught John's flub of calling Tammy's death a murder?
Have any of the jurors mentioned this?
@@ellendickey4769 not that I have heard from Justin nor Nate.
Oh yes I did! When he said he didn't want to take this case I thought he'd trying to save face for himself!
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He had nothing mitigating to say. Neither did his lawyer!!!!
Simply because there WAS nothing. Zero.
Justin is the ONLY reason I’d turn on FAUX.
Same here
Same!
Ditto !
What’s faux? Help?
@@MicheleFlynn-yz6ee ok, here goes. It started back in George w days, when everyone who backed him (and that wrong war) followed fix news exclusively. That's how they got away with the lies about the need for the war. Weapons of mass destruction, babies ripped from incubators, it was so insane. Fix was pushing it all. So FOX NEWS became FAUX NEWS because we knew it was all BS. Got it now?
Thank you all for your service, you did a wonderful job
Hi Justin! ❤ Love you! Can't wait for your coverage of Lori's AZ trial. I know you'll do great!
I watched this juror in the courtroom. You could tell she was going to be great, and she is!
Justin, I adore your questioning! Great interviewer and interview!!!
The religious views ,they felt they couldn’t divorce,but they could have adultery, divorce is a sin -but killing your spouse is not ??
A scripture comes to mind: Jesus called out hypocrites for straining at gnats to swallow camels.
My ex didn't believe in divorce - had a secret life for 8 yrs. My late husband also cheated on the down low. I never caught him but I stayed because we. Built a great life & I was set up by him to collect his SS every month before he passed. Ive been a widow for 4 yrs - a life sentence deprived!
Plan and simple they wanted the money. I think Chad would have divorced Tammy if Lori received the insurance money.
It was the money they wanted! They obviously didn’t care about being good people.
No one said that. He didn’t WANT a divorce. He knew he COULD get one but just didn’t want to because 1) it’s frowned upon and he wanted to appear righteous 🙄, and 2) death= pay day.
It’s impressive that the jury was able to soak in particular dates and put the whole thing together without confusion.
Wait until she finds out about Joe Ryan. Oh no, honey… Lori was batsh*t crazy before Chad. You’d have to already be nuts to give that man the time of day. Let’s be real.
PS: thank you for your service! ❤
Yes, Lori actually has more dominant personality traits than Chad. She is the leader, she had Chad and Alex by the nose.
@@marygoff3332Yep. By the storm.
Agree!!
Lori was robbed of her penalty of death. She was the true ring leader.
I think they are both as guilty as the other. They’re both where they deserve to be.
Its a good thing Lori saved her chats in the cloud.
I know!!!!! Such a true blonde!!!!!
@@fridaytiedayI'm a brunette with mostly blonde in my brain when it comes to technology.
It's why I won't take a life. The little part of brunette in my brain knows they can find everything in your devices and i don't know how they do it.
Blondes don't have more fun in prison tho. 😅
@@fridaytiedayI'm a blonde, and I agree 😄
This guy is literally the best interviewer ever!! Besides Nate of course. 😊
This is one intelligent and thoughtful lady. I want to be her friend! Thank you for your service and the interview Justin. Your show soon with Lori’s trial for Charles. Time for justice for Charles.
I love that she ironed, when that's all she could do, in her hotel room. Because every hotel room has an iron & ironing board and it IS relaxing to iron!! My Mom used to always hum to herself when she ironed. ❤
Several of them said they ironed. She wasn’t the only one.
It’s very meditative! :)
Thank you for your service on the jury!
Wonderful lady, great perspective.
The biggest burn was lori, not getting Charles Life Insurance. What a victory
She is so well spoken! Thanks for your jury service!
God bless you! You DID make the right decision! Thank you
Chad never held a high position in the church. He was an executive secretary, which is the jackpot if you want to see how the sausage is made, but he was never a bishop, which isn't all that high. I think this was part of his frustration. Having visions allows you to end run around the hierarchy, unless you take it too far.
So true!
😂 yeah, but Chad never had a traffic ticket in over 50 years. Not everyone can make such a magnanimous claim.
This causes a great many hurt feelings as usually the same 10 to 12 people get higher callings and they just switch out. It is the same in the women’s organizations. Also money plays a huge part. If you are wealthy you will get a high calling and so will your wife. So normal middle of the road people are overlooked no matter how talented or spiritual they are.
@@kimhaverfield6474That’s really interesting and for me, puts a whole new spin on “WHY”!
Thank you for your jury service. You all got it right.
Such a well spoken, intelligent woman. We should be grateful to her for seeing through the smoke screen.
Thank you Justin for all your work.
She is so smart and focused.
I am so impressed with the jurors in both Chad and Lori's trials. I have followed since Hawaii and juror #11 is really impressive in how she is breaking down all the crazy information ⚖️
During the trial I thought, does Prior really think the jurors are dumb? Nope, far from it and they saw through the smoke and mirrors.
Chad was most definitely physically involved in the brutal murder, mutilation, and burning of Tylee's body. Maybe not JJ's. It would take far too long for just one person to carry this out. His text to Tammy was very revealing of his involvement.
Absolutely 💯 percent he did
But it’s speculation! Juries has to go with facts provided under very strict instructions ! If you can’t prove it, all you can do is speculate.
@@hellekimery9537 his Racoon text to Tammy says it all.
Yes. He smiled during closing each time what was done to Tylee’s body was mentioned. It was like he was reliving this and was proud of it. Also, his text to Tammy about the raccoon, burning limbs, etc. put him right there at the scene. He hated Tylee because she disliked him. Her uncle Alex was just an executioner and would have probably just have disposed of her body the same way he did J.J.s. Also Chad mentioned “turning up the pain”.
What happened to JJ when Chad carried him upstairs and came down later red-faced and without JJ? Melanie Gibbs asked Chad what happened -cos he had scratches on his neck and red faced. Chad reportedly said it was Because JJ had inflicted the scratches on him. That was the last time JJ was seen standing on his feet active and talking. It's possible when Alex carried what appeared to be a sleeping JJ home late that night, it may have been pretentiously set up to appear JJ was still Alive.
I just can't imagine being on this jury. Hats off to all of them. Very long, emotionally draining trial. I pray they can get past all the horrible things they have seen and heard
Their interconnectedness is so healing and the way they speak of the Marshalls, LE, prosecutors, and family.
I'm sure Chad had some weird pseudo-religious reason for staying silent. Personally I hope he never speaks again. Let him fade into oblivion where he belongs.
This woman has a phenomenal memory. Also very well spoken and likeable
Thank you Tracy for your service to get just to Tammy, Tylee and JJ !!!
Thank you to you both! What a stellar interview both ways.
great interview by Justin! thanks to all the jurors for their service. justice was served as best we can as a society.
Thank You so much for your service!
Thank you Juror number 11. The world watched this trial on pins and needles and you assured justice was served for Tammy, Tylee and J.J. ❤ there was so much more that never even made it to trial…but you guys got it right! 🙏🏻 for you all!
I love this Juror #11!
She makes so much sense
Thank you, Juror #11, and all your jury team! We trust your judgment!
Edit: perhaps his last defiant act was not speaking as if to diminish Hon Judge power in the courtoom. I think judge Boyce read him right - defiant!
His IDOC mugshot he’s smiling 🙂 like the idiot he is ugh 😑
Justice has been served. It was at the cost of these jurors in so many aspects of their lives.
Thanks Justin great interview
She’s such a wonderful and sincere woman!! Clearly, highly intelligent and so very thoughtful! She was a perfect juror!!
She is so well spoken and truly understands the case. I'm so glad she was a juror!!
What a smart jury!
It may look like he was a good person before this happened,but maybe he just wasn't caught.
Thank you for your service!!! Praying for peace after such a long trial!
How in anyone,s mind is divorce more of a sin than killing????
It’s not. Chad wanted MONEY, he wasn’t trying to avoid sinning. He also wanted to be a widower instead of a divorce because in his culture it’s shunned to divorce and he wanted to appear righteous. So it has zero to do with following religious doctrine and everything to do with EGO.
Thanks to this amazing jury!
this is a great interview! thanks to both of you.
Love your interview style, Justin Lum 👍 God bless
Thank you Justin! All of these jurors just seem like such quality people!!!
Emma lied on stand Perjury!!!
It doesn’t matter. If the state can’t prove her intent then she won’t be prosecuted since perjury is 100% about intent and not giving accurate testimony. We need to leave it be- we may not like the kids that testified but they’ve been through h3ll for the past 5 years because their father is a psych0path and k!lled their mom and then brainwashed them to boot. Time to let it go and hope they all come to their senses and heal with time.
Let's just hope Emma and Garth don't pick up where Chad and Lori left off due to them believing in the same beliefs
Seems like him and Lori made a pact to look smug and don’t talk. It didnt surprise me he remained quiet. He would have talked and took a plea awhile back. He looks so smug. His quiet stillness ,shows me he still thinks he is right. He is proud of what they did
He is evil, what did we expect? No remorse or care
Totally agree. He would never speak or give a comforting word to the families. His final petty revenge against Tammy and her family is instructing his children to abandon them. He knew how much hurt it caused when they refused to visit their dying grandmother and would not attend her funeral.
@@chipperterri. #care We care.
They both have narcissistic personality disorder. Smugness naturally comes with the disorder. The main difference is that Chad knows he’s a fraud and Lori is so delulu that she actually thinks she’s a goddess and that god won’t hold these murd3rs against her bc she got a freebie (so to speak)