Tangier Island: Among the First U.S. Climate Refugees?
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- The small island of Tangier sits 12 miles off the coast of Virginia. It’s a peaceful, salt-of-the-earth kind of place, with only 600 full-time residents, most of whom have known their neighbors-commercial crabbers, watermen, schoolteachers, parishioners-for generations. Shortly, however, that may all come to an end.
As soon as 25 years from now, Tangier is expected to disappear into the sea. The people who live there, along with the residents of similar coastal towns and islands threatened by sea-level rise, may become among the first U.S. climate refugees.
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"Tangier" is directed by Jeff Leeds Cohn. It is part of The Atlantic Selects, an online showcase of short documentaries from independent creators, curated by The Atlantic.
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My parents were born and raised on this island. I visit there every summer and I never want it to go away. I may live in Tennessee right now but I'll always love that island and my cousins and family there.
How do you cope with the fact that the island will be gone in your life time? Your situation kind of reminds me a little of of the village I grew up in the Great Plains, they are both disappearing (though for different reasons).
TC IronBear its hard to know that it will vanish in about 20 to 25 years. Each time I visit i can see the beach shorting and parts of the island filling with water (especially if there is a storm). Honestly I dont know what I'll do when the island will vanish. My friends and family will be without a home and an island the i love and grew up as a child will be gone.
Sad to lose the Chesapeake Bay lifestyle as we know it.
PATHETIC- They vote for Trump. I believe they will sink as he will. Good luck
BearFootSteve it started sinking long before cry babies like you let Donald trump live inside your head. What did your master Obama do to help these people? Or the 10 presidents before him?
this is a very nice documentary. beautiful cinematography as well as music and sound design.
The first U.S. climate refugees are Alaska Natives who are currently being relocated from certain villages that have already eroded away due to rising sea levels.
Basically.
But they're not slow witted, country talking white folk, so they'll be ignored.
Erosion is a natural process having nothing to do with mythical 'rising sea levels'
Relax... know what "Among " even means?
bs1174 you’re absolutely correct
this was wonderfully put together
A wonderful unique place that I have only been to once. I would like to sail back many times. Worth preserving. The combination of erosion, subsidence and sea level rise has many causes - but the result is the same: loss of land. Maryland rebuilt Poplar Island off the Eastern Shore, and did it just for the birds. How about Virginia do the same for Tangier? Gov. McAuliffe was no friend of the island.
Tangeir is just the latest Island to sink in Chesapeake Bay as the Bay is an Earthquake Fault and has swallowed a lot of Islands in the Past as it expands. There was Turtle Egg Island, and Sharps Island, and Parker's Island. But today, more than 400 of those islands in Maryland and Virginia cannot be found on modern navigational maps of the Bay, wrote William Cronin in his 2005 book, Disappearing Islands of the Chesapeake Bay.
Tangier needs to create a positive community outlook about the future of their island. Remember the old school paper drives years ago? They should have an ongoing sand and rock drive. Make it a fun thing that anyone visiting on the ferry boats would bring a sack of one or the other “to be a part of saving Tangier”. Have a festival there once a year around the idea of bringing rocks, with prizes for who brings the most, the biggest. Contract with their oyster buyers, empty shells must be double returned. They could reverse erosion that way. Every year they did it could be one year added to their history.
I really like your ideas.
What an insightful comment. Way to much negativity from all sides.
Having lived in groovy Manhattan nyc for the last 40 years since college..I can't wait to leave this cesspool of humanity run amok. Seriously considering moving here.
I learned about the island situation for the first time thanks to a PBS program last night. I feel sad about what’s going on. Love from 🇵🇷
Where can we see an updated video of what the island is like now?
They need to make a full-length documentary about this. I'm wondering why I've never heard about this before. Until now....?
These types of islands are naturally subject to storms, many have come and gone in the last few thousand years.
There's a special place in my heart for these islanders. I am old now but when I was young I was enchanted by Chincoteague. So I became a "come here". I stayed a long time. Sadly I experienced the changes. I remember the Eastern Shore and enjoyed it for 40 years. It's 2021 now. I feel so sorry and sad. God bless all of you.
very informative. Never heard of Tangier Isl.until i read Chesapeake Requiem, try it
I lived there as a child and spent summers there after we moved. It's sad that this is happening
It looks like the island is going to face the same fate as Holland Island in Chesapeake bay
@Atlantic: You forgot Isle De Jean Charles in Louisiana.
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Building a seawall to prop up an island that exists 3 feet above a rising sea level? What a colossal waste of taxpayer money.
dsm I agree. And the same can be said for new orleans
They should move instead
dsm they’re all conservative there. I thought conservatives didn’t like handouts?
Sea level will never rise 3 feet anyway
To u maybe, not to the ones whose whole life depends on it..
Tangier island is very close to the US mainland. The Pacific islands are tiny islands in the middle of the Pacific ocean!!!
There would be too much political backlash if your island needed help due to climate change. It'd be easier to let it sink and pretend it was never there.
It is also far cheaper. This would not be the first time the US abandoned a town because of environmental reasons. There is a town in Pennsylvania where a coal mine fire under the town made it unlivable, so instead of putting out the fire and refortifying the mines, they just moved the people.
the island is only 3 feet above sea level and sinks 6 inches per century. That doesnt include random storms eating it up. no need for global warming to make this island go away.
TC IronBear Was the town's name Silent Hill? I wouldn't want to live there for two good reasons then.
Jokes aside that's horrible.
Greg Savacool Centralia. It was the inspiration for Silent Hill.
@@jebes909090 the sea is rising as well. And the sea level rise is accelerating. So that on top of the subsidence...
adapt and survive!
Please save this island 🏝️ 🙏
Question, they are now building islands. There's a bunch over in the U.A.E. I understand that they won't be able to put land UNDER a home but I'm sure there's a part of the island that is the lowest point without any houses. They could build up that area then you could moved houses over there. If you're all related you could do it like the Amish raise barns.
Michael Mace UAE has just a BIT more money to work with.
The people will be gone before the island is had a chance to talk to some of the natives, amazing place
87% says invincible ignorance.
Rev. Flood was telling his parishioners how to vote, according to an article on Politico, 8/19/2018. Their tax exempt status should be revoked.
You believe newspapers? Were YOU there to hear the verbiage?
Just doing some Walking Dead research right now!
Live around this way. great job
What do they think is going to happen when you build a town on a sand bar?
"87% of the islanders voted for Trump." - that says it all.
Honestly its kinda funny.
Veruc
Yeah yeah. I know we’ve already fucked up the environment irreparably. But its kinda funny seeing it effecting people who deny it. Its hard to deny climate change when your house is going underwater. Its not like they live in a 3rd world country, nobodys gonna die. I wouldn’t be laughing if peoples lives were actually in danger, obviously, they’re just gonna have to move to a less scenic spot. Not a big deal.
And they got screwed by him. "Thanks for voting for me guys. I never though your island was in trouble, so don't worry it'll work itself out."
But what about the barrier wall...
"Guys, it was a hoax. You don't need a wall. It'll be fine. Trust me."
Last words anyone hears before getting screwed hardcore by Trump.
Veruc
As Karl said, what a cop out. Voting for someone who enacts policies that are destroying your home and livelihood is a, quite frankly, idiotic thing to do. It is right to point that out, especially since the policies they voted for affect us all.
As for Obama proposals that would have helped to slow down the destruction of Tangier Island, staying in the Paris Climate accords for one, killing coal ASAP for two, investing in American solar panel manufacturing for three, not forbidding California from setting stricter car emission standards for four, and the list goes on. These aren't even the most "radical" (I use that term sparingly, since Obama was a center right politician a la Merkel by European standards) policies that Obama enacted.
I'm not even a progressive (seems like progressive is code word for "anyone that disagrees with me" for the alt-right), as Social Libertarian that is anti-identity politics and progun I am for policies that maximize the individual freedoms and happiness of everyone (Schwarzenegger type fiscal Conservative, social Liberal). Global Warming runs counter to that, perhaps more than any other issue.
It's not at all funny. There is much suffering to come because of it.
Yay - double beach!
Salutations to your people on this special little place of peace and tranquility. It looks and sounds like heaven to me. You islanders are so lucky. Don't worry folks as God is watching over you. If it's ABSOLUTELY necessary to get the sea barriers..it will happen. If not you will have the protection and support of the lord. Guess which one is most important. With god no need for a flimsy sea wall.
all that early american commercial fishing and waterfowling history; gone.
Between the land sinking due to recession since the last ice age, westward continental drift, erosion and sea level rise I would just enjoy it while you can. And the sea level rise has been happening for the last 12,000 years since the ice receded. I'm not sure saving it is even an option at this point.
…sinking due to ‘subsidence,’ a geological process that’s been happening ever since the glaciers melted 10k years ago.
why do they have that problem there and not in New jersey or on Manhattan?
I’m in Florida, and we are sinking. The water is coming up from underneath through the porous rock.
Should of held your nose and pushed the other lever.
Should have*
This is yalls home.its so 😢
As soon as I seen Trump's name at 3:00. I knew they fucked up "Big league."
Is it me or is that lady Nancy Forest Gumps mom?
Well nature is governed bybphysics. And physics don't care about the various superstitions people engage in.
There accent sounds more Irish than the typical Virginia accent
English midlands
Ever wonder why you don't see climate change concerned professors debating with climate change skeptic professors in a point - counterpoint - counter counterpoint debate that last hours.. or even a few minutes?
Clark Magnuson because there are barely any climate science denying professors?
The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
\Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.
I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 98 years ago
Do I believe the world is warming. Sure. Do I believe its because of Donald Trump? No. Only an idiot would.
Daniel Thomas he has done everything he could to exacerbate it. (Note: “exacerbate” means “to make it worse”)
Very nice cinematography like already mentioned. As for the sea level rise.....there is absolutely no legitimate study that show's anything like that. The island may be devastated by erosion but it will not succumb to rising water.
@J Applic lol, that island will look exactly the same as it does right now when you turn 80 years old unless a good old cat 5 hits it... Sea level rise....pure stupidity.
First it was Florida then Houston then the Redding fires and now Tangier it's like God is punishing some folks.
All erosion not sea levels rising then it would be rising on all the banks of all the coastlines in the world
To think, all issues related to rising sea levels and global warming were (are?) completely avoidable. With 1 pre-rec: Make sure the people at the top listen to the overwhelming consensus of scientists. So as much as I felt for them while I watched this video, I kept asking myself "how many voted for this CaC"? Hate to say it, but 87% lessens my worry "tremendously", believe me. You reap what you sow...
"Genius abhors consensus because when consensus is reached, thinking stops."-Albert Einstein
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
Except for climate change, which pretty much every fucking scientist in the world can tell you is just an objective fact.
The 97% claim was debunked long time ago I'm surprised its even brought up anymore. Climate scientists that are considered climate change deniers are on the list and what they are saying is yes to some degree but not to the extent the alarmists are claiming. Therefore the list is deceitful.
This is the typical alramists " Well ..well 97% say its so." followed with a link to skepticalscience.com (ironic name being there is no skepticism involved).
Early this year Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann took Tim Ball to court in Canada over slander and when the judge issued Mann to provide the court with his evidence he used in his "hockey schtick" graph Mann failed to supply any and lost his case. None of those alarmists will debate any of the "deniers".
I know there is nothing in this forum that can change your mind, so I ask you this one thing: What event/proof do you need to realize that you have been gas-lit for so long, your thoughts on the most important aspects of humanity have been twisted to support only the wealthiest in power? I'm not doing a "dig-in-a-Q" thing here.. I have my own threshold on the other side of the spectrum where I say "shit, I been gas-lit yo". So whats yours? I hope its before the atmosphere gets blown off or the equator line is evacuated, or Miami is underwater.
Oh, and don't need to answer man... I don't ask to argue, I just want you to take a second and honestly self reflect... Just, close your eyes and imagine what event/cataclysm it would take for you to point the finger at those you support right now... I just hope you stick to your answer.
6:39 is my aunt
A town in Louisiana is the first climate refugees
...and who's to say that the island is not sinking, rather than the water rising!
Give that lady some CBD to stop those tremors it will work !
i was thinking the same thing ...lol
My home
Hope the Island live in the US is better than the Agressiv lfeytle in the cities.
Time to pack up and get a move on guys!
Most likely what will happen is that they will wait until a hurricane forces them to evacuate and then washes the island.
That is also the smartest thing to do. If they leave now they have to give up livelihoods, property, and friends. If they wait for the inevitable hurricane, Congress will give them money.
mtksbctk - Can they count on you paying for the "pack up and get a move on" expenses? How about you pitching in on the cost of exhuming their dead to move to a new location? As the sea level continues to rise, maybe you can give the same stellar advise to The Keys, Tybee Island, GA, and New Orleans.
@@tcironbear21 But they're also risking their lives. Congress needs to give them money now, if they want to leave. Nothing will be sold there. They should have a choice.
T Mc do you understand that’s going to have to happen though? Regardless of what this guy says. As the seas rise, yes, people will have to move inland, on all fronts.
What could save the island instead of wasting millions of dollars building sea walls to protect the people and homes, the state should buy all the people out of their homes and turn it into a historical landmark until it disappears. If you take all of the people off the island it should last longer because there won’t be as much wearing from vehicle and foot traffic. Just my thoughts
Olivia K no, no one should reimburse them. They voted for Trump, they’re adding to this problem every day. These conservatives don’t want handouts and we should not give them handouts.
The island has been eroding since before the industrial revolution. Steadily, continuously, without regard to climate.
Searching searching searching to prove a theory!
And keep your jobs and keep that fed money coming in!
They insist the land is sinking and the sea is not rising lol
The sea is not rising, the wind is blowing this away.
interesting accent
Because of the isolation it's 14th or 15th century Elizabethan. Preserved since first settlers. Everybody is related, I believe. No outsiders.
I empathize with them, but there are plenty of other places in America to move to. There isn't anything intrinsically special about Tangier Island.
Actually, that's where you're wrong. The people of Tangier Island have lived there for centuries (pretty much since the Europeans came to North America), and their speech is actually the closest example to Shakespearian English of any current group of people. There's some serious historical significance to that island, and it'll be a shame to see it underwater.
There is nothing special about a soggy piece land their ancestors killed the natives over.
Jon Lott - As our coastline erodes and sea level rises, you can keep up your irresponsible rhetoric. The point is that these people are getting an up close and personal example of climate change (which most of the world acknowledges). Besides the financial burden (think they can "sell" their homes?), this is just the beginning. Are you going to say that to the residence of The Keys? How about New Orleans, Tybee Island, GA?
I'm not saying global warming isn't a problem. I'm not saying New Orleans isn't special. I'm saying there is nothing particularly great about Tangier Island, and that "my grand daddy and his grand daddy lived here" is kind of a lame reason to find a flooding island desirable.
Trump doesn't believe in climate change, but he wants a sea wall built next to one of his golf resorts to stop rising water
Well, he did say he would build a wall...maybe this is his only chance? XD
the kids are 16 sounds like he 40
It's the accent
Those projections about the amount of sea level rise, vary wildly. When there is that much
uncertainty built into the computer models, you really can't put too much credence in the predictions. 8 inches to 20 feet? All you have there, is fuzzy guesswork.
Island life is special. I hope that a way is found, to preserve the culture and flavor of Tangier.
Islanders don't want their Island to be washed away by climate change. Same islanders fly a Trump Pence flag in the background of video. The human species is so twisted.
It's sad an island with alot of history is gonna end up underwater just like holland island within few decades from now
This is where climate change becomes real, and we realize it's not only in the rest of the world.
Hell 87 percent of theses folks dont believe in climate change with evidence all around them......now they want socialism to recue them, kind of ironic seeing that 87% voted for trump.
The island is sinking
It's not sinking , lol, weather dogma!!
Fucking LOL "87% of the islanders voted for Donald Trump" I'd imagine there's not a person watching this that didn't see that punchline coming.
At one point in Earth's Life, MUCH if not ALL of The United States was underwater! If BOTH icecaps (north and south) ever melt, the whole country is done for!
In the absolute extreme that every scrap of ice melted it is estimated that sea levels would rise by 80m or so. The effects of this would be totally catastrophic but it is a long way from putting all the land underwater. The bit of land we call the United States was never all underwater or anywhere close. If you go to canyons or places like monument valley with the isolated towering pinnacles that are caused by wind or water erosion the land would have been much higher millions of years ago so whilst it is true that at times there was less ice and therefore higher seas there was also higher land at times too. Taller cliffs on the coast of some places instead of beaches too which decreases the potential for water to come inland. At a rise of 80m you'd probably lose maybe 10% of the US at most. Though flooding elsewhere would be frequent due to much more frequent and powerful hurricanes and tsunamis. More important than the sea level rise itself is the cause of that rise because if we ever actually did get to that extreme we'd be totally screwed from the heat anyway.
Some of your info sounds a little in error because it defies computer models I've seen and the very real evidence of fossils of sea creatures being found near mountain tops. Also I never said "ALL" of the U.S. was underwater but "much" of it because obviously the remains of land creatures such as T-Rex and others have been found here. Still, the bulk of what you said makes sense.
Pulsar Stargrave Well you said 'if not all' so I just wanted to clarify. Lots of it was underwater at one point hence salt flats and deserts that were once sea floors but it is important to recognise that this doesn't always have to be the result of there being more water, but simply water being in different locations and the landscape being different. Fossils at the top of mountains doesn't mean those mountains were once surrounded by seas so much as if does that they didn't use to be mountains and the land was pushed up by tectonic plates colliding. The key point was simply that there isn't actually enough water on the planet to cover all the land due to ice melting (there are some good sea level rise mapping tools out there to experiment with and see the results) but that the situation is still dire nonetheless and even an increase of 1m would be devastating to the world by causing mass migration, increasing how extreme extreme weather events are and reducing our food outputs.
Fair enough about Point A and plate tectonics but some of the models I've seen took these into consideration. There was more water covering the United States just as the oxygen content in the atmosphere was richer than today, leading to taller trees and bigger creatures. I do hope you're right about your calculations regarding whether there's "not enough water" to cover the states! But California's becoming a distant twin of Japan makes for compelling science fiction!
It depends what period in time you're talking about as there have been periods with higher CO2 and others with higher oxygen concentration. For instance the fossils of those enormous insects like dragonflies maybe 10 times bigger than anything today generally indicate much higher oxygen concentration 300 million years ago during the Carboniferous period. This period seems to have started as the result of CO2 levels previously being far higher creating the conditions for much larger and more widespread plant life eventually resulting in a much more oxygen rich environment able to support giant insects like these but as a result ended in an ice age that would have killed them off.
For the majority of history CO2 levels have been much higher than today and it took periods like the Carboniferous to sequester away this carbon in the form of coal (which is the literal meaning of Carboniferous) in order to bring down global temperatures such that life like ours was possible.
That is what makes our current usage of fossil fuels worrying. These previous climatic shifts have taken place over tens or hundrds of millions of years but we've returning millions of years worth of carbon to the atmosphere in just a hundred years and it is clear from history where this will lead. Rising sea levels are a concern but are ultimately just a symptom of the increased temperatures brought on by carbon and methane emissions and that will ultimately cause more problems than the sea level rise alone.
87% haha omg ha ah. Oh
? who caused the ice age when it was a mile thick before NYC was there. and where did the ice go because man was not here yet
kevin mcshane do you realize that those ancient changes, whether entering or leaving an Ice Age, occurred over millions of years? It wasn’t over 100 years, which is the case now. There was enough time for animals to evolve with the changes, right now animals are going extinct because of this, they don’t have time to evolve.
Nonsense video. There has been zero "sea rise." Tangier sits at 4 feet above sea level just as it has for a thousand years. All loss is due to erosion.
You voted for Trump? WHY?
LMFAO
Yeah they're mistaking erosion for sinking what a lie
They are fighting a losing battle. The fate of his island is already sealed.
Erosion, yes....sea rise? Nope. Sea rise does not effect specific places....lol
So, were the islands that went under in the 1850s global warming too? Wait, now it's climate change, my bad. So, if we never burned fossil fuels what should the average temp be, asking for a friend.
Let it sink they are in denial for what’s coming they need to leave or suffer the consequences
one big wave and your all done anyway
Peoples hatred of Donald trump made this comments section disgusting. Just because you may disagree with someone’s political views doesn’t mean you should turn this into a joke. These people are coping with the fact that their home is disappearing. It would be cool for the people who let Donald trump live in their head rent free 24/7 could put politics aside for once and have some compassion for human beings in crisis. It never ends anymore. Constant bickering back and forth about politics. I sure hope it’s just a fad and it goes away and we can all be nice to each other for a change.
And no I didn’t vote for Donald trump nor am I racist, right wing, left wing, liberal, conservative or any other label people feel the need to put on others these days.
Just a guy who watched an interesting doc about an interesting group of people, who I feel compassion for.
Tyler Do you understand that we need a leader that’s actually going to do something about climate change? If they are voting for an asshole who is doing everything he can to promote the use of fossil fuels, , to the point of actually stopping California from having better emission standards, then yes they do pay bear part of the responsibility. We shouldn’t have to bail them out when they’re doing this to themselves.
If you want your sea wall built all you need to do is put a Trump hotel on your island but you'd better be ready for the unholiness it will bring, including the peed on one himself.
NEVER SHOULD HAVE BUILT THERE EVER HOW STUPID
Home is where you make it. Choosing to stick around in a place that is sinking because that's where you family is from is beyond stupid.
I love how at the end everything is blamed on Trump.
Trump voters, I don't pity them.. sorry
You have no pity for the WINNERS? Go cry w/ yer sorry losers party.
And They vote for Trump! Ha! Pathetic. They will sink asfast their President
What I think is funny, con in chief dumps them after he uses them telling them not to worry, he never thought their island would go sink anyways.