Samsung in general isn't good at manufacturing chipsets when qualqum depended on them to make their "888" and "8 Gen 1", they both were less efficient that the 865 and to conform that the "8 Gen 1+" manufactured by TSMC was much more efficient that the 8 Gen 1
@@amoorxd5432I didn't even know that Samsung made the 8 gen 1 and 888. That explains why I sold my Oppo find X5 pro after 6 months, it was constantly throttling and struggling with its 4h screen on time. Bought an s23u which I'm still rocking after 1 year.
nah, they still will say that this time exynos is good and complain 2 years later about their phone lagging, it never changes 😂😂 it's like a comedy show now.
@alexandruciordas4941 Idiot. If you actually go to their subreddit it has plenty of negative comments. Also since most haven't used snapdragon side by side, they will have no comparison to make so don't know how worse it is. And it was pretty much known that samsung exynos won't be as efficient since tsmc has been gold standard now. You can't catch up so easily. And exynos problem was never lag. It's battery life.
I can not complain about my s24+ battery, performance, and heating. Even daily charging battery to 80%, i can't drain the battery under 20%. But, if Snapdragon is better processor, it's not fair that some user's is payig same amount.
I have s24+ i was confused before bringing it because i know how bad Exynos are , i said let's give it a second chance espacily when i saw some videos for the phone performing very good in camera and heating, now i completed one month of using it , the most thing i have noticed is the signal it's not good like SD but, honestly it's small diference about 5% or 10% worse but you will be noticed that especially when you are working in a remote area or driving in a high way . phone performance is good not laggy or slow . heating in the phone i am using clear case from samsung i didn't face any noticeable heating issue at all only it's getting warm when playing some games like pubg i can call it normal heat you still can use your phone , in general usage thers is no heating issue at all even if using the phone outside under sun light . battery life is good completing one day with full charge without problems. Finally , i would like to say for everyone thinking of getting exynos this year if you found very good offer get it if not don't get it especially if you are using your phone for 3 or 4 years
if, will get s24+ with snapdragon cpu ok get it. if you get exynos cpu, try to find a good offer. Otherwise, don't get it. If you want to save your money, i recommend you to get s23+
@@MsKitokidngl Id take the exynos if it were significantly cheaper since the components lifespan are lower but the issue is the pricing, is pretty much the same for both SD and EX models
Well, "pay more" could be relative since we don't get upcharged with taxes at checkout, but yeah. This whole system is bs. I'm looking for a new phone and the 24+ ticks all my boxes, but man that damn processor situation is unacceptable... ESPECIALLY when it also affects camera performance :(
@AVdE10000 ahhhhh that explains why the American version of the phone was 150 euros cheaper online. Why don't they include tax in the price over there?
@@AVdE10000 Even not counting taxes. Electronics is so much cheaper in US. And they get deals with refurbished more. In general, US is a good market for electronics for consumers.
Again, it was a great and well-prepared test, it is truly admirable that you are doing so much work to help people make decisions at a time when Exynos has question marks... If Samsung wants to prove that Exynos is good, it can prove it with the S24 FE, not with very expensive flagship phones! Battery consumption is still problematic and even though it's winter, it's hot, I don't even want to think about what could happen in the summer! Thank you again for helping people make decisions for these tests. Best regards
Imagine iPhone using third-party chip like snapdragon chip and only use their A17 on iPhone mini. Is it good for the company? Good for the long term depending on other company?
what are you yapping on about snapdragon is better samsung uses android we are not about to compare apple silicon to samsungs shitty attempt at it please respectfully stfu @@f2o.f2o
Because the vast majority of people buying smartphones don't check performance tests, mosts don't even know (or care) what kind of processor their device uses. Approach ten random Samsung phone users in the street and ask them what a Snapdragon is, I bet eight will think it's some kind of small aggressive dog breed. Samsung sells worse phones at higher prices in the rest of the world compared to the US because *it can*. People still buy it. Companies really only change their behaviour if punished by customers with lower sales, leading to losses in profit. As long as they can slap their cheap in-house processor in a phone and it still sells like hot cakes, there is zero incentive for them to change.
This is the battery test video I've been looking for. Mega UA-camrs who only test the display battery in a Wi-Fi environment should reflect. Testing standby power in a 5g environment is a true battery test.
This is what we expect from Tech UA-camrs. To conduct intensive, quantitative, objective and rigorous tests transparently and show us hard facts on which we can draw conclusions. Not endlessly hype and yap about products like fans and influencers. Which a lot of Tech YT'ers do today. Absolutely loved this video. Subbed. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your work. This is so detailed. I'm using an S24 Exynos, and I'm pretty satisfied with it for my use. Would've definitely preferred the SD.
I had pre-ordered s24 series, but decided against getting it when I saw it came with exynos. And your videos played a major part in making that decision. Whenever someone asks me why didn't you get s24, it would say it runs 2°C hotter compared to Snapdragon based on all your videos. Got S23 instead for peace of mind 😊
@@alexandruciordas4941 because today Exynos is better than last year Snapdragon. people should stop comparing numbers from benchmarks as it means less for day 2 day use.
In this test I could not spot any difference, light is setting CPU frequency max lower and throttle on lower temperature, I should do a test that really push the chipsets otherwise the difference is negligible.
Thank you for confirming the difference. There are so many media sources out there that seem biased towards Samsung (exynos) to continue to receive review samples etc. Thank you for your honesty.
yeah its good, no doubt, but snapdragon is a bit better, i know a few people that have the S24 exynos and their very happy with it, but they both got discounts. @@malidan1196
@malidan1196 bro I ain't talking bout no benchmarks. I don't know what exynos phone u got that u are so confident in . Sumsung might have just pulled a miracle with yours
Stellar video. It would be great if such tests could also be done on last Gen's Snapdragon S23 in comparison to the Exynos S24, as I have a feeling that the previous year's will match this year's Exynos offering.
For the S24+ Exynos, I did a few tests to determine battery drain depending on the type of mobile network. Also checked the use of 1 or 2 sim. In all cases, the phone is connected to wifi and not in use. Got the following battery usage results: 1) 2 sim, network type one 3g, the other 4g - consumption 2.0% per hour 2) 2 sim, network type of both 4g - consumption 0.8% per hour 3) 2 sim, network type of both 3g - consumption 1.8% per hour 4) 1 sim, 3g network type - consumption 0.5% per hour As a result, we have obscenely high battery consumption with 3g network type when 2 sims are used.
Bro im so confused about what phone should i get s24+ or s23+ I have galaxy A51 and now time to change and upgrade to S+ but the problem is idk how s24+ is running i wont use it heavy gaming just for 1 hour or 30min per day and im not high graphics fan so i care only about smooth gameplay and heating but i think in my country is s24+ is expensive for 100 or 50usd than S23+ but better advantages like 7y os updates and 12gb ram... so what phone should i go ? do you think s23+ is better choice even -1 year of update os 3 years left ? , Please really appreciate your reply
@mouadrevealed9518 why not spend a little more to get s24 ultra and get all the benefits and the upcoming 6.1.1 spen update. If budget is really an issue then I would recommend s23+ just for the sake of snapdragon.
Well, on the S24 and also on other Samsung phones, the last 10% (10 to 0) is usually equal to maybe 3-4% when the battery level is higher (50 to 47, for example). That being the case, maybe the difference isn't thaaat big. Maybe more like 10-15%. Anyway, great video again. I love how you worry about being as accurate and precise as possible :)
hi @@techmo2020! At 6:02 , although you toggled the option for 'limit apps and home screen', you didn't turn on the power saving mode at the very top of the screen back again. That's why it didn't show any meaningful difference in the charts with this very aggressive power saving feature toggled. In other words, you customized how the power saving mode works by toggling the apps and home screen limitation, but the power saving mode itself wasn't on for the tests in this video. Maybe you could do this part again on a whole new video, also exploring the additional limits when power saving is on.
@@alex-coelho hi, I actually went through my footage again now, and even though it is cut in this video, I made sure that the power saving mode was actually on. Since I was in the setting and my name was visible, I cut that part of the video. To be fair it showed 3% less battery consumption on power saving mode, but my tests were not targeting full CPU utilization and the use of 120fps screen, most of them were stationary which means the screen was already on a lower refresh rate, hence the difference was minimal.
@@techmo2020 Thanks for the clarification! I still find it weird that, on the video, the home screen didn't change to black with the fewer limited apps allowed to run (which would also impact the tests if the one used in the video wasn't set up to be among the eight-ish or so). At least on mine it does change to that after toggling apps and home screen and turning power saving mode on at the top of the screen
@@alex-coelho If you look closely at 06:09, the video is cut (the light on the scene changes slightly). There, I went to setting again, turned off the last option, then pulled the settings down and turned on the power saving mode from the top menu. Definitely a lousy editing on my part. But your feedback is definitely valid, I will do a small test later, but I should design it in a way that power saving mode actually makes up a difference.
The difference in daily life will be much less than what you claimed. And contrary to you Exynos 2400 does improve a lot since last year and is without a doubt one of the very best SoCs around. The only problem is, that Samsung is offering the same phone in 2 versions for the same price giving you no choice. If you dive this deep, then why not mentioning that core architecture of both is not the same this year. In theory Exynos 2400 should be ahead in low power tasks regarding battery. But competition is always good - imagine there would be only Qualcomm ...
Honestly, excellent work done by you. Being a tech savy I can clearly make out the efforts and hard work behind this video. Great Job done. Excellent and detailed level comparison. Superb...
What an amazingly detailed assessment! The last Samsung phone I bought was the S10 but the heat, throttling and battery drain with Exynos was so bad that I had to send it back. The Exynos's supposed counterpart, the SD 855, was a wholly different experience. It is in Samsung's best interests to quit this borderline scandalous practice with their flagship products as soon as possible.
At 6:35, did i just see the two samsung phones super impose the stars, just like they did with the "moon zoom"? Even though the cameras on both phones are facing the table?
Very good! Could you use your testing app to do a comparison between S23(one ui 6.0), S23 (one ui 6.1), S24 Exynos and S24 Snap? Of course, this when 6.1 will be available for the S23 Series
Software can't update hardware... Samsung might maybe(*) be able to slightly narrow the power draw difference under load by compromising in performance by limiting peak performance/max clocks in Exynos. But standby/network connectivity power draw simply can't be lowered without affecting also connection quality and risking signal drops. * If lower peak states result in CPU staying significantly longer in higher power states and unable to idle as often that can negate power saving.
They won't do anything like this based on historic facts. They have always neglected optimization for their subpar exynos chips. They just want to sell u the shiny new phone and that's it. Last galaxy i had - S6 was simply terrible in terms of battery life and performance just 1 year after launch. It got progressively worse with every update. I moved to Huawei Mate 20 and what a difference it was.. the best phone i've ever used to this day.
Thank you very much for this comparison. In the end, I switched from the S22 to the S23 with SD. On the S22 EX, the battery on 5G would disappear before I will blink my eyes, and the phone would heat up. I don't want a big phone and I don't play games on it. What interests me is precisely connectivity and battery life outside of Wi-Fi. I had the S24 on test, and it's the 5G that poses a big problem. Using wireless Android Auto with 5G data in the background could drain the battery in just a few moments.
I wonder, is the 4G connection more efficient if you do video calls? Looking at your data, the biggest issue of the Exynos version really seems to be the modem. As you said ... even Apple is buying Qualcomm modems ^^.
Exynos seems always hotter, even when doing mundane tasks. I don't think it's just the chip, the power management software wise seems bad too. Is there been any difference now 6 months later? Seriously considering ordering USA model instead of buying from EU, even if it costs me more. I really like s24+ model look.
Hi and thanks for the reviews! I want a new phone and I'm not sure whether it's S23 or S24!? Is the S24 worth the extra cost? What about the software support, the S24 has 3 years longer, right? Thanks and Greetings!
I think both are decent options, S24 has a better display and that could be a good reason to go for it. On other aspects like battery and camera they are on par.
Perfect review it gives exact information about the 2 chipsets how it performs and SD is still king and exynos still behind. SW update didn't change performance of d exynos variant. Great work keep posting more such vdos.
Very interesting test. I have a question about the frequency bands used by the SnapDragon version of the phone : are they compatible with european ones or some are missing ? I mean, does the phone work correctly in Europe without any problems ? Thanks.
Thank you very much for your videos. They are very good. I would like to know if the US version normally receives updates and security patches in Europe. Thank you
Great test. The only problem I have now is which performance profile to choose, standard or light. I thought there'd be a bigger difference in efficiency, but it sounds almost the same
Also while doing multitasking( especially if we use camera for video recording) the phone heats up too much . Yesterday i was using 4-5 apps( with split screen & pop up) on my s24 ( including camera for video recording) which i also used to do on my s20fe5g & s23 and they both never ever crossed 46( s23 never crossed 44 ) ,but unfortunately this one reached a whooping 47.8 degrees yesterday . I mean atleast this is unacceptable .
From a point of thermal throttling and weak performance,now exynos can atleast stand against snapdragon counterpart. For me ,i like competition among processors,so that for an end customer like me may have choices. I am also glad about mediatek,the same way i am happy for exynos too. Another reason is amd ,and their gpu capabilities. Samsung managed the thermal way better than previous gen exynos and i now have high expectations with the next exynos. I am also excited about snapdragon 's laptop cpu also 😅
Nice video, complementair for al the work you did by comparing the s24+ exynos en SD. Where did you bought de S24+ SD version. I would like to buy the SD variant but i live in the netherlands
Hi, I've found today S24+ with Snapdragon in several mobile stores here in Croatia (512 GB, as I was looking for that one, not sure if I saw any 128 or 256 GB with Snapdragon), because they import from the countries that have them. Official Samsung store has the one with Exynox (I've bought S24 Ultra there in a presale, using it since February but its really heavy, so thats why I'm looking for S24+ instead preferably with Snapdragon as Ultra has) and basically all teleoperators as well if you are buying S24+ via them (T mobile, etc). Maybe you could check your local stores which sell phones if they have imported S24+ with Snapdragon.
@@suzanacuravic@suzanacuravic4487 i've bought the s24+ with snapdragon from aliexpress. Works perfectly. But thanks for the tip. Operators in the netherlands don't import but online sell the Europeanen version
Great to see a fellow Smartphone nerd from Austria. I think Samsung with their Android 14 Update might have figured something out with their Exynos Chips. I have been using a Galaxy S22 Ultra since its release and the Android 14 update really has smoothed things out. I don't get any frame skips in animations or inconsistent scrolling speed - which I was getting from time to time on Android 12 and 13. With that being said the battery consumption on this thing still is almost comically bad, especially standby times since I always try to maximize it by turning off wifi, 5G, bluetooth and GPS and manually AOT compile Apps with adb. I just in general think Samsung is using their Exynos chips wrong. They are not bad but they really should stay out of the Flagship Standard S Line of phones. If they would put these chips in the 500 - 700 Galaxy S FE Line they would wipe the floor with the other wannabe flagships using Mediatek 8000 and Snapdragon 7 Series SoCs in that price range. But to be honest Samsung never has been a company that gets you great specs for the price so I doubt they would ever consider it.
FYI for UK users, amazon us samsung store ships the us version of to uk, after shipping and duty the phone is still ballpark the same price as buying from samsung uk (s24+ now they decreased to $849 so after tax and shipping its still £825ish)
Amazing video and work, showing how the rest of the world gets ripped off with the exynos no matter what they say. Normally don't comment but have my engagement mark here as well as a like and follow! Hope you get some slightly better payout from youtube because of it!
Man i love these reviews! So detailed and technical. I have a question for you, I am in Italy and I think that the Sim situation is going to be the same as in Austria. Does the US s24 work fine with European sim cards? I am trying to get my hands on a US s24 to get the snapdragon, but of course if it has problems with italian SIMs it makes no sense to get it.
Funny thing I was just in Udine, the sim works fine. Not only fine, but in Grado the S24 Exynos didn't have signals anymore, but S24 US version had it. I am not endorsing importing US variant though, you may face some issues that I didn't, maybe try to get one from Hong Kong. Also be mindful that you may not get the warranty.
@@techmo2020 Hey thanks so much for the response! hope you enjoyed your time in Italy. Yes indeed in these days I looked up way to get s24 snap, and getting the HK variant seems easier than the US, it just doesn't have the e-sim but whatever. For the warranty I was thinking about activating samsung care+, which I discovered that can be activated until 6 months after the purchase of a new samsung phone even if not from the official website.
Unfortunately not, it is a bit on the expensive side to buy both phones and since I don't accept sponsors for now, it's hard to justify it. But GSMArena did a battery test for S24+ Exynos, since it's lower than S23+, I only assume a similar thing gonna happen if I compare S24+ Exynos vs. Snapdragon.
This further confirms that Exynos is still largely behind in term of efficiency, especially if we're talking about the modem
Samsung in general isn't good at manufacturing chipsets when qualqum depended on them to make their "888" and "8 Gen 1", they both were less efficient that the 865 and to conform that the "8 Gen 1+" manufactured by TSMC was much more efficient that the 8 Gen 1
@@amoorxd5432I didn't even know that Samsung made the 8 gen 1 and 888. That explains why I sold my Oppo find X5 pro after 6 months, it was constantly throttling and struggling with its 4h screen on time. Bought an s23u which I'm still rocking after 1 year.
%27 is unacceptable. Unfortunately I will recommend my friends iPhone anymore.
@@normal_biri4725 as an s22+ user I will do so tbh
I have honor magic 6 pro the battery is way better than Samsung or apple ant day
This video should be hard-sticked on every Samsung Reddit thread. Like someone said, another level of details!
nah, they still will say that this time exynos is good and complain 2 years later about their phone lagging, it never changes 😂😂 it's like a comedy show now.
@alexandruciordas4941 Idiot. If you actually go to their subreddit it has plenty of negative comments. Also since most haven't used snapdragon side by side, they will have no comparison to make so don't know how worse it is.
And it was pretty much known that samsung exynos won't be as efficient since tsmc has been gold standard now. You can't catch up so easily.
And exynos problem was never lag. It's battery life.
s24 sub would be like: my phone is completely fine!! it might be a faulty unit!! *inhales copium*
@@alexandruciordas4941😂
@alexandruciordas4941 after two years will be lagging anyways 😂. It's Samsung.
I can not complain about my s24+ battery, performance, and heating. Even daily charging battery to 80%, i can't drain the battery under 20%. But, if Snapdragon is better processor, it's not fair that some user's is payig same amount.
I have s24+ i was confused before bringing it because i know how bad Exynos are , i said let's give it a second chance espacily when i saw some videos for the phone performing very good in camera and heating, now i completed one month of using it , the most thing i have noticed is the signal it's not good like SD but, honestly it's small diference about 5% or 10% worse but you will be noticed that especially when you are working in a remote area or driving in a high way . phone performance is good not laggy or slow . heating in the phone i am using clear case from samsung i didn't face any noticeable heating issue at all only it's getting warm when playing some games like pubg i can call it normal heat you still can use your phone , in general usage thers is no heating issue at all even if using the phone outside under sun light . battery life is good completing one day with full charge without problems. Finally , i would like to say for everyone thinking of getting exynos this year if you found very good offer get it if not don't get it especially if you are using your phone for 3 or 4 years
@@Idek1g If you want Samsung why don't you get s23+? All s23 have snapdragon.
if, will get s24+ with snapdragon cpu ok get it. if you get exynos cpu, try to find a good offer. Otherwise, don't get it. If you want to save your money, i recommend you to get s23+
@@MsKitokidngl Id take the exynos if it were significantly cheaper since the components lifespan are lower but the issue is the pricing, is pretty much the same for both SD and EX models
What do you think have a better battery life s24 plus exynos or s24 base snapdragon?
This video is just on another level….thanks man
i like how we have to pay more than americans AND we are getting the worse device. my next will not be from samsung
Well, "pay more" could be relative since we don't get upcharged with taxes at checkout, but yeah. This whole system is bs. I'm looking for a new phone and the 24+ ticks all my boxes, but man that damn processor situation is unacceptable... ESPECIALLY when it also affects camera performance :(
@AVdE10000 ahhhhh that explains why the American version of the phone was 150 euros cheaper online. Why don't they include tax in the price over there?
@@YourMasYourDai believe their price is without tax but after tax its still cheaper there
@@AVdE10000 Even not counting taxes. Electronics is so much cheaper in US. And they get deals with refurbished more. In general, US is a good market for electronics for consumers.
For one exynos is better just more unstable and either way the s24 beats any iphone out there
Again, it was a great and well-prepared test, it is truly admirable that you are doing so much work to help people make decisions at a time when Exynos has question marks... If Samsung wants to prove that Exynos is good, it can prove it with the S24 FE, not with very expensive flagship phones! Battery consumption is still problematic and even though it's winter, it's hot, I don't even want to think about what could happen in the summer! Thank you again for helping people make decisions for these tests. Best regards
Why can't Samsung just use exynos on the A series or FE editions and use Snapdragon for all flagships
Imagine iPhone using third-party chip like snapdragon chip and only use their A17 on iPhone mini. Is it good for the company? Good for the long term depending on other company?
what are you yapping on about snapdragon is better samsung uses android we are not about to compare apple silicon to samsungs shitty attempt at it please respectfully stfu @@f2o.f2o
theres a reason the ultra has snapdragon globally its just a cost cut for samsung to use exynos on the s24 and s24+ please stop dickriding@@f2o.f2o
Because the vast majority of people buying smartphones don't check performance tests, mosts don't even know (or care) what kind of processor their device uses. Approach ten random Samsung phone users in the street and ask them what a Snapdragon is, I bet eight will think it's some kind of small aggressive dog breed.
Samsung sells worse phones at higher prices in the rest of the world compared to the US because *it can*. People still buy it. Companies really only change their behaviour if punished by customers with lower sales, leading to losses in profit. As long as they can slap their cheap in-house processor in a phone and it still sells like hot cakes, there is zero incentive for them to change.
exactly
This is the battery test video I've been looking for. Mega UA-camrs who only test the display battery in a Wi-Fi environment should reflect.
Testing standby power in a 5g environment is a true battery test.
One of the best analysis videos I found on the topic 🙌
This is what we expect from Tech UA-camrs.
To conduct intensive, quantitative, objective and rigorous tests transparently and show us hard facts on which we can draw conclusions.
Not endlessly hype and yap about products like fans and influencers. Which a lot of Tech YT'ers do today.
Absolutely loved this video. Subbed. Keep up the good work!
Love the Austria map - nicely done, sir! 😄
Yeah it was really accurate!
I love the effort and detail you put into this!
Great work and love ur cause!!
Thanx for this, I really enjoyed it!
Wtf that map at 7:19 🤣Nice one !
Australians are fuming
I din't know that Australia is "Lower Austria" 🤣🤣
Austrialians @@JackieFrankieful
a map of austria obviously
Thank you for your work. This is so detailed.
I'm using an S24 Exynos, and I'm pretty satisfied with it for my use. Would've definitely preferred the SD.
I had pre-ordered s24 series, but decided against getting it when I saw it came with exynos. And your videos played a major part in making that decision. Whenever someone asks me why didn't you get s24, it would say it runs 2°C hotter compared to Snapdragon based on all your videos. Got S23 instead for peace of mind 😊
you got s23 because you are poor, not because s24 run hotter.
@@florindlf 🤣 The cost was similar during pre-order deals. So I can assure you that cost was not the deciding factor.
Then, you might be stupid.
Buying old tech for the same money as new one.
@@florindlfwdym man, exynos is deal beaker for anyone so had exynos in the past.
@@alexandruciordas4941 because today Exynos is better than last year Snapdragon. people should stop comparing numbers from benchmarks as it means less for day 2 day use.
Congratulations for this video. I love how did you handle data. The message is very clear and talks facts.
A direct comparison between normal and light mode would be super interesting to see :)
In this test I could not spot any difference, light is setting CPU frequency max lower and throttle on lower temperature, I should do a test that really push the chipsets otherwise the difference is negligible.
Thank you for confirming the difference. There are so many media sources out there that seem biased towards Samsung (exynos) to continue to receive review samples etc. Thank you for your honesty.
I understand it better with graphs, thank you Techmo!
i always refer your videos to people arguing with me about exynos lol
youre the best
Thank you so much for this test, I wonder why other UA-camrs are hesitating to conduct this test!
glad i didn't waste my money on an S24 exyons...
Yep, wouldn't want to waste a meaningful 5 seconds.
yeah its good, no doubt, but snapdragon is a bit better, i know a few people that have the S24 exynos and their very happy with it, but they both got discounts. @@malidan1196
@malidan1196 it's not
@@malidan1196 the new exynos isn't even close to the 8 gen 2. You can look it up
@malidan1196 bro I ain't talking bout no benchmarks. I don't know what exynos phone u got that u are so confident in . Sumsung might have just pulled a miracle with yours
These tests are very valuable and i thank you for doing them hopefully Samsung can do something to improve exynos, especially when on 5G
Thank you for your work.
This video is much more informative than anything else. I hope you get a much bigger audience.
The best tech channel for phone reviews!
A real review and not just a simple presentation of specifications to create hype.
Great review!
Just what I wanted to see! Really professional video, just what I needed! Subscribed, looking forward to see your other vids as well!
I have the s24 exynos and these do not happen to me and Im getting around 8 hrs of screen on time..
Your videos are next level and I appreciate that you do your own tests and don't just copy/paste every other idea on youtube. Subscribed!
Thank you so much Techmo for extensive rigorous review for this two variant phone
damn bro.. you are the best!!!
You have way too few subscribers. The quality of your anaysis is much higher than what most tech youtubers can do.
Stellar video. It would be great if such tests could also be done on last Gen's Snapdragon S23 in comparison to the Exynos S24, as I have a feeling that the previous year's will match this year's Exynos offering.
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@@techmo2020 Oh, I didn't see it. Thank you!
S24 exynos 2400 here. Can confirm the battery drain is real.
Is it fixed?
@@Panmiszcz-lv4mkafter updates S24+ became 80hz phone
For the S24+ Exynos, I did a few tests to determine battery drain depending on the type of mobile network. Also checked the use of 1 or 2 sim. In all cases, the phone is connected to wifi and not in use. Got the following battery usage results:
1) 2 sim, network type one 3g, the other 4g - consumption 2.0% per hour
2) 2 sim, network type of both 4g - consumption 0.8% per hour
3) 2 sim, network type of both 3g - consumption 1.8% per hour
4) 1 sim, 3g network type - consumption 0.5% per hour
As a result, we have obscenely high battery consumption with 3g network type when 2 sims are used.
Bro im so confused about what phone should i get s24+ or s23+
I have galaxy A51 and now time to change and upgrade to S+ but the problem is idk how s24+ is running i wont use it heavy gaming just for 1 hour or 30min per day and im not high graphics fan so i care only about smooth gameplay and heating but i think in my country is s24+ is expensive for 100 or 50usd than S23+ but better advantages like 7y os updates and 12gb ram... so what phone should i go ? do you think s23+ is better choice even -1 year of update os 3 years left ? , Please really appreciate your reply
@@mouadrevealed9518 s24 ultra will be best choice
@mouadrevealed9518 why not spend a little more to get s24 ultra and get all the benefits and the upcoming 6.1.1 spen update. If budget is really an issue then I would recommend s23+ just for the sake of snapdragon.
Well, on the S24 and also on other Samsung phones, the last 10% (10 to 0) is usually equal to maybe 3-4% when the battery level is higher (50 to 47, for example). That being the case, maybe the difference isn't thaaat big. Maybe more like 10-15%.
Anyway, great video again. I love how you worry about being as accurate and precise as possible :)
True, that could be a thing. I ve noticed that on some of my Samsung Phones. It depends on how the % is measured. Because it is not really linear.
Incredible work! Thanks
gained a new sub from ur efforts
Você é o melhor nesses testes ❤
De nada.
I am sharing this in fb and reddit both. You deserve popularity.
Let me know if you post it on Samsung subreddit, I'm really curious how the subreddit will respond
hi @@techmo2020! At 6:02 , although you toggled the option for 'limit apps and home screen', you didn't turn on the power saving mode at the very top of the screen back again.
That's why it didn't show any meaningful difference in the charts with this very aggressive power saving feature toggled. In other words, you customized how the power saving mode works by toggling the apps and home screen limitation, but the power saving mode itself wasn't on for the tests in this video.
Maybe you could do this part again on a whole new video, also exploring the additional limits when power saving is on.
@@alex-coelho hi, I actually went through my footage again now, and even though it is cut in this video, I made sure that the power saving mode was actually on. Since I was in the setting and my name was visible, I cut that part of the video. To be fair it showed 3% less battery consumption on power saving mode, but my tests were not targeting full CPU utilization and the use of 120fps screen, most of them were stationary which means the screen was already on a lower refresh rate, hence the difference was minimal.
@@techmo2020 Thanks for the clarification! I still find it weird that, on the video, the home screen didn't change to black with the fewer limited apps allowed to run (which would also impact the tests if the one used in the video wasn't set up to be among the eight-ish or so). At least on mine it does change to that after toggling apps and home screen and turning power saving mode on at the top of the screen
@@alex-coelho If you look closely at 06:09, the video is cut (the light on the scene changes slightly). There, I went to setting again, turned off the last option, then pulled the settings down and turned on the power saving mode from the top menu. Definitely a lousy editing on my part. But your feedback is definitely valid, I will do a small test later, but I should design it in a way that power saving mode actually makes up a difference.
Thank you for the video!
I like how you describe and straight to do point
This is an honest review especially his last statements about Exynos chips...
is the app for monitoring cpu usage, power draw, and etc already available to the market? where to download? Thanks
The difference in daily life will be much less than what you claimed. And contrary to you Exynos 2400 does improve a lot since last year and is without a doubt one of the very best SoCs around. The only problem is, that Samsung is offering the same phone in 2 versions for the same price giving you no choice. If you dive this deep, then why not mentioning that core architecture of both is not the same this year. In theory Exynos 2400 should be ahead in low power tasks regarding battery. But competition is always good - imagine there would be only Qualcomm ...
Thanks for the comparing. Makes things easier.
The test was conducted in Austria, imagine it's in tropical Asia :(
great video 😊 just wanted to know if you can address the heating problem with iphone 15 and 15 pro
Save this man at all costs, he's doing justice to his PhD! Such thoroughly run experiements!
Honestly, excellent work done by you. Being a tech savy I can clearly make out the efforts and hard work behind this video. Great Job done. Excellent and detailed level comparison. Superb...
What an amazingly detailed assessment! The last Samsung phone I bought was the S10 but the heat, throttling and battery drain with Exynos was so bad that I had to send it back. The Exynos's supposed counterpart, the SD 855, was a wholly different experience. It is in Samsung's best interests to quit this borderline scandalous practice with their flagship products as soon as possible.
At 6:35, did i just see the two samsung phones super impose the stars, just like they did with the "moon zoom"?
Even though the cameras on both phones are facing the table?
No it's not faking, it's showing the "possible" placement of the starts. The actual photo is just black.
Wow, you did great job with those charts. Hats off! 👏👏
thank you for the detailed video mate
Very good!
Could you use your testing app to do a comparison between S23(one ui 6.0), S23 (one ui 6.1), S24 Exynos and S24 Snap?
Of course, this when 6.1 will be available for the S23 Series
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I sold the S23 so unfortunately cannot do it with the app.
Dude! awesome video!
The graph at 4:00 - where can I find it for Standard performance too?
Cool video ! What if you're a video editor using capcut and adobe rush apps ? Is exynos slower for 4K video exports ?
Excellent video. Thank you!
I'd love to know if the big gap between the modem power consumption of the two devices narrows if 5G is turned off? Thanks for your channel
thank you for such detailed comparison. I wish so-called 'tech youtubers' did this too
Thank you for your work. 👍🏻 and subscribe.
Software can't update hardware...
Samsung might maybe(*) be able to slightly narrow the power draw difference under load by compromising in performance by limiting peak performance/max clocks in Exynos.
But standby/network connectivity power draw simply can't be lowered without affecting also connection quality and risking signal drops.
* If lower peak states result in CPU staying significantly longer in higher power states and unable to idle as often that can negate power saving.
They won't do anything like this based on historic facts. They have always neglected optimization for their subpar exynos chips. They just want to sell u the shiny new phone and that's it. Last galaxy i had - S6 was simply terrible in terms of battery life and performance just 1 year after launch. It got progressively worse with every update. I moved to Huawei Mate 20 and what a difference it was.. the best phone i've ever used to this day.
this is outrageous , you pay the same amount of money for a "worse" flagship. Great video.
Thank you very much for this comparison. In the end, I switched from the S22 to the S23 with SD. On the S22 EX, the battery on 5G would disappear before I will blink my eyes, and the phone would heat up. I don't want a big phone and I don't play games on it. What interests me is precisely connectivity and battery life outside of Wi-Fi. I had the S24 on test, and it's the 5G that poses a big problem. Using wireless Android Auto with 5G data in the background could drain the battery in just a few moments.
I wonder, is the 4G connection more efficient if you do video calls? Looking at your data, the biggest issue of the Exynos version really seems to be the modem. As you said ... even Apple is buying Qualcomm modems ^^.
Дядь ты крут, и хорошие обзоры делаешь 👌🏼
Love how you present the data like a statistician :)
Exynos seems always hotter, even when doing mundane tasks. I don't think it's just the chip, the power management software wise seems bad too.
Is there been any difference now 6 months later? Seriously considering ordering USA model instead of buying from EU, even if it costs me more. I really like s24+ model look.
Hi and thanks for the reviews!
I want a new phone and I'm not sure whether it's S23 or S24!? Is the S24 worth the extra cost? What about the software support, the S24 has 3 years longer, right? Thanks and Greetings!
I think both are decent options, S24 has a better display and that could be a good reason to go for it. On other aspects like battery and camera they are on par.
Danke für diesen Vergleich.
Perfect review it gives exact information about the 2 chipsets how it performs and SD is still king and exynos still behind. SW update didn't change performance of d exynos variant. Great work keep posting more such vdos.
Very interesting test. I have a question about the frequency bands used by the SnapDragon version of the phone : are they compatible with european ones or some are missing ? I mean, does the phone work correctly in Europe without any problems ? Thanks.
It's hard to say, you have to check it online for your service provider but usually Chinese and European Bands are compatible but not American ones
Very nice comparison , thanks for including 4g,5g in your measurement, its crucial and almost no one does that
Thank you very much for your videos. They are very good. I would like to know if the US version normally receives updates and security patches in Europe. Thank you
wow, you live in the Nullarbor Plain, i drove across it years ago, its the middle of nowhere
do latest Exynos vs latest tensor , i feel tensor is more optimised for pixels and Exynos still gotta do better
Hey, would it be possible to make a test with 1 sim card vs 2 active sim cards?
I have 4 active simcards.
Thank you very much for your important work! Keep going. We have to know how Samsung behaves with its customers.
I appreciate these videos
Great test. The only problem I have now is which performance profile to choose, standard or light. I thought there'd be a bigger difference in efficiency, but it sounds almost the same
Also while doing multitasking( especially if we use camera for video recording) the phone heats up too much . Yesterday i was using 4-5 apps( with split screen & pop up) on my s24 ( including camera for video recording) which i also used to do on my s20fe5g & s23 and they both never ever crossed 46( s23 never crossed 44 ) ,but unfortunately this one reached a whooping 47.8 degrees yesterday
. I mean atleast this is unacceptable .
good job!
From a point of thermal throttling and weak performance,now exynos can atleast stand against snapdragon counterpart. For me ,i like competition among processors,so that for an end customer like me may have choices. I am also glad about mediatek,the same way i am happy for exynos too. Another reason is amd ,and their gpu capabilities. Samsung managed the thermal way better than previous gen exynos and i now have high expectations with the next exynos. I am also excited about snapdragon 's laptop cpu also 😅
So glad I imported it my 24 plus from the states I also got it for significantly less than locally sourced
Nice video, complementair for al the work you did by comparing the s24+ exynos en SD. Where did you bought de S24+ SD version. I would like to buy the SD variant but i live in the netherlands
Thanks mate, my friend sent it to me, I've read in comments folks are ordering it from Hong Kong and they are happy with it.
Hi, I've found today S24+ with Snapdragon in several mobile stores here in Croatia (512 GB, as I was looking for that one, not sure if I saw any 128 or 256 GB with Snapdragon), because they import from the countries that have them. Official Samsung store has the one with Exynox (I've bought S24 Ultra there in a presale, using it since February but its really heavy, so thats why I'm looking for S24+ instead preferably with Snapdragon as Ultra has) and basically all teleoperators as well if you are buying S24+ via them (T mobile, etc). Maybe you could check your local stores which sell phones if they have imported S24+ with Snapdragon.
@@suzanacuravic@suzanacuravic4487 i've bought the s24+ with snapdragon from aliexpress. Works perfectly. But thanks for the tip. Operators in the netherlands don't import but online sell the Europeanen version
Hello
How is name this aplication or widget what you using to test with CPU usage, power consuption and others?
Great to see a fellow Smartphone nerd from Austria. I think Samsung with their Android 14 Update might have figured something out with their Exynos Chips. I have been using a Galaxy S22 Ultra since its release and the Android 14 update really has smoothed things out. I don't get any frame skips in animations or inconsistent scrolling speed - which I was getting from time to time on Android 12 and 13.
With that being said the battery consumption on this thing still is almost comically bad, especially standby times since I always try to maximize it by turning off wifi, 5G, bluetooth and GPS and manually AOT compile Apps with adb.
I just in general think Samsung is using their Exynos chips wrong. They are not bad but they really should stay out of the Flagship Standard S Line of phones. If they would put these chips in the 500 - 700 Galaxy S FE Line they would wipe the floor with the other wannabe flagships using Mediatek 8000 and Snapdragon 7 Series SoCs in that price range. But to be honest Samsung never has been a company that gets you great specs for the price so I doubt they would ever consider it.
FYI for UK users, amazon us samsung store ships the us version of to uk, after shipping and duty the phone is still ballpark the same price as buying from samsung uk (s24+ now they decreased to $849 so after tax and shipping its still £825ish)
Most intensive comparison on yt
Would be great if there's a comparison across the S21 and S22, SD and Exynos variants
Hey thank u for this...
Does this also includes the S24+? With larger vapor chamber & battery?
Nice analysis
Amazing video and work, showing how the rest of the world gets ripped off with the exynos no matter what they say. Normally don't comment but have my engagement mark here as well as a like and follow! Hope you get some slightly better payout from youtube because of it!
the map !!! well played sir
Man i love these reviews! So detailed and technical.
I have a question for you, I am in Italy and I think that the Sim situation is going to be the same as in Austria.
Does the US s24 work fine with European sim cards?
I am trying to get my hands on a US s24 to get the snapdragon, but of course if it has problems with italian SIMs it makes no sense to get it.
Funny thing I was just in Udine, the sim works fine. Not only fine, but in Grado the S24 Exynos didn't have signals anymore, but S24 US version had it. I am not endorsing importing US variant though, you may face some issues that I didn't, maybe try to get one from Hong Kong. Also be mindful that you may not get the warranty.
@@techmo2020 Hey thanks so much for the response! hope you enjoyed your time in Italy.
Yes indeed in these days I looked up way to get s24 snap, and getting the HK variant seems easier than the US, it just doesn't have the e-sim but whatever.
For the warranty I was thinking about activating samsung care+, which I discovered that can be activated until 6 months after the purchase of a new samsung phone even if not from the official website.
What is the name of the app you use to measure?
Bro which app did u use for monitoring the details like temp, batery consumption etc as shown in the begining of the video?
I wrote it myself. The app is not published.
Have you compared the plus versions? If it's all about cooling efficiency, maybe exynos performs better there?
Snapdragon has all the same advantages of being able to perform better and more battery capacity.
Unfortunately not, it is a bit on the expensive side to buy both phones and since I don't accept sponsors for now, it's hard to justify it. But GSMArena did a battery test for S24+ Exynos, since it's lower than S23+, I only assume a similar thing gonna happen if I compare S24+ Exynos vs. Snapdragon.