Extreme crosswind landing in Las Vegas
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Young pilot gains valuable crosswind landing experience in gusty 33mph conditions. Aircraft is a Cessna T310Q. Runway 25 at KVGT in Las Vegas. Approach is "over the numbers" (25 at McCarran KLAS), then left base onto final for 25 at KVGT.
I cannot find the words to express my admiration for these guys
Ladies and gentlemen, your pilot today was Badass.
Andy Hale except for landing in a crab with retractable gear and letting the nose flop down.
bombud1 You weren't there. You don't know the exact conditions or his experience level-how can you be so critical?
+Paul Dirac Just a typical know it all
What would you expect? To land on the belly of the aircraft? He followed the right procedures and protocols in this situation. Congrats to this pilot.
HELL YEAH
Pilots are heroes man. They're just gutsy people.
+kenwayne96 * gusty people... hahahahaha
+kenwayne96 No, a lot of them are just plain stupid. And even dumber for posting videos of the dumb things they do.
+s stan You know a lot of pilots then?
+Cameron Putt Who are " lot of people"? I been around them longer than you have and have never heard of that! Sounds to me you just made that up.
+Cameron Putt I don't believe it. don't know how old you are but let me explain something. Most airline pilots come from the military. They are former Air Force and Navy pilots. Also, I been on you tube for years, seen most if not all flying video's and I have never seen those comments. I certainly would have jump all over them if I can get on them before my 2 buddies here. We meet in the hangar, 4 old time retired pilots. We then fly out for breakfast and lunch. Next to me are 2 retired military pilots and we all have over 10,000hrs. None of us have ever seen or heard anyone say that. However, I am not calling you a liar but we would appreciate if you can give us a link so we can blast those morons. Have a nice day.
They landed perfectly
Excellent video, using a quality camera and editing out of unimportant sections makes this a joy and an totally enjoyable clip.
I wouldn't call that a perfect landing, but it was damn impressive considering the description says he's a young pilot getting "valuable crosswind landing experience" which says to me that he's not done this too often before, or not at all. With that in mind, I can't help but to be impressed by how well he handled it.
Fragacide might wanna get that experience in something with fixed gear if hes going to be landing in the crab like that. his gear could have easily folded on this very landing.
Fragacide Yeah very impressive for a young pilot, some experienced pilots would struggle with crosswinds like that, but the comment section will point out every mistake he made even though the primary role of any pilot is to ensure the safety of the aircraft, which he did do.
bombud1 You can see that he righted the plane at the perfect moment before contact. The gear wouldn't buckle unless he tried keeping the angle while landing. I think he did well considering the conditions were probably more than expected.
Loobo2012 Yeah, well those who point out every single little error are only in it to get credit for their knowledge. I commented to give credit to the pilot in this video, which he well deserves at least a little.
Great skills and this video was a treat. Thank you for posting!!!
Passenger: Runway in sight!
WOW, great handling! Loved this crosswind landing! The pilot treated her very smoothly and professionally :)
Nice landing! It's always tough to land a small aircraft in a gusty crosswind without breaking anything and as says the old pilot lore "any landing you can walk away from" is a good one!
cheers
Thanks for the tip. I was at the time a brand new multi-engine pilot with about 200 hours total. I am now a commercial pilot flying photography flights and lots of operations all-weather in and out of KLAS, KSAN, KSNA, KBUR, etc. Let it be known that my hand NEVER leaves the throttle, except when the right seat has me backed up, like he did in the video.
I love the strobing of the GPS and the radio above it.
Whoo-hoo, you got fancy graphics software.
But most of us just want to watch the video.
Never had a rough landing in Vegas but coming out over the mtn range will find you praying every time.!!!
I hope they did a "Hey tower! Watch this!" radio call for that landing.
Good work guys!
Did a really nice job holding centerline - can't even tell if the title of "extreme" x-wind is deserved! Well done.
Bravo! Nothing like landing sideways to make your day. Great piloting!
"Control track with ailerons, heading with rudder, fly it to the ground." That's what I kept telling myself last time I had the rare chance to do touch and go's in a nice crosswind. I had thought about it for years. It really worked well when I tried it. The C172 touched down one wheel at a time every time, right down the line. I wish I could afford to fly more than once every 20 years.
there's so much correction required that it doesn't even look real! Almost has that 50's movie look of putting a cockpit infront of stock footage lol, nailed it though, great job!
Hi you are joyful because you are a good boy
Great flying! Looks like that one kept all your limbs busy! Great work getting her back on centre-line before the flare!
That was definitely a strong enough crosswind in my book (my book is small, more like a leaflet). When the nose is pointing somewhere off into port and the nose kicks that hard on landing to re-align itself to the ground, that's a nice good crosswind. And you can see the plane bumping pretty good from the gusts.
Respect to the pilot and their skills , that was really an awesome landing ...
Oh man do I love flying.
Just started flight training, loving every minute of it. Just did sharp turns with the blinders on today.
i learned to fly at an airport with gusty crosswinds ,,, this video is great ,, the pilot may not have seemed to do all that well ,, but he did do just fine ,, it's easy to be an armchair critic ,, get out there in adverse conditions and see what it's like ,, i would fly with this guy anytime
Being a student pilot I've practiced X/wind landings in similar winds. Its extreme in my book and a great landing too, keep up the good work!
More planes should have such an open view forward. Amazing views with little obstruction.
FWIW: My father, a 36,000+ hr airline pilot, taught me that you should fly the plane down to the round out in a crabbed position, then kick it out straight and drop the wind side wing just before touch-down. His reasoning (and that of many other high time commercial pilots I know who learned to fly in WWII through the Korean conflict) was when you kick the nose straight and drop the wing through the approach you increase the stall speed and create excess drag with crossed controls.
Well done! Such a professional landing!
Flying a mosquito into Thor's fartstorm is more harrowing than I am willing to try. Good on you for sticking the landing!
Love it! Great stuff!
Thanks for posting this video. The 310 is a nice aircraft and this shows how stable it is during a crabbing approach. At 1:40 a caption said, "turning base for runway 25," when they were actually turning to final, but otherwise I didn't notice any other goofs. I hope that you have many happy landings in beautiful locations.
What a fun ride! I'm on my couch yelling blue line, blue line! Watch your descent rate! Somehow my wife does not understand the pothole in the sky concept with bumpy weather, but she has not ridden with me in a small plane. I go "woohoo" every time we fly in bad weather with an airline. Flying at night is nicer, but for a student, the worse the conditions (with an instructor) the more you learn and to use when you are on your own and find yourself in IMC conditions getting thrown every which way except blue (gray) side up.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking.
Surely you can't serious?!
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
I kept thinking the whole time is the pilot Magic Johnson?
It did look windy, but you made the landing look easy. That's down to pilot skill more than anything else.
Amen to that! I've been flying since 1999, you can tell right away who the real pilots are...
Who? Are there any fake ones?
Great landing in less-than-ideal conditions! Good Job.
310Q is a sweet airplane, I have couple hours in one. Nice job sticking the landing.
great job guys.. that looked quite hairy!
If you think that was hairy, you should see my back!
frankgrimesification right. lol
The sound being referenced in previous posts is the radar altimeter indicating 50ft, not the stall horn. In these conditions, wind shear potential was high. Had the stall warning sounded, you would have seen an immediate go around initiated with right seat on throttles, and left focused on flying the airplane out of the stall as planned and understood. You will notice right seat had the throttles on final for this very contingency.
That is basically a nice day up in Edinburgh. Good job, but lucky the wind seems fairly constant!
That is actually the North Las Vegas Air Terminal on a westbound approach with the Spring Mountain Range and the La Madre Mountains (foothills of Mt. Charleston) of in the Distance. My Mom's flight instructor crashed up there in the 1980s flying back in a snow storm from Tonopah. He was twenty miles off course flying at 10,000 feet.
those pilots are heros man. It take guts to do what they do.
Nice video! Got my private up in North Town, and it's nice to see a video of the usual flying conditions there :D
I live in North Las Vegas and often go to the little park near the runway to watch TO's and landings. Beautiful observation park just off of Decatur and Cheyenne.
Good landing!!! I like how you stabbed at it right near touchdown and left a sec of grab or go :)
Vegas is always interesting to put down at. Hot ,loads of sheer and more than a little tendency for a last minute float fest. He did a pretty damn good job.
As a pilot, a very good day at the office crosswind landing for these guys and you can see the windsock bottom left filled out to the right showing a 25kt + crosswind. Fun points to observe is the right hand pilot pulls his body to the right instinctively as he expects the pilot to yaw the nose now to the right to line up and lower the wing to land on the left main wheel then right wheel and you can see he touched down with the nose a bit to the left still and it pulled around and then down onto the right and you see him turning the wheel hard to the left after landing to counter the strong wind and keep that left wing pinned down hard and not lift which would be very bad! haha. Very competent mostly text book example and one good to study a few times as an example of how to land safely in difficult gusty conditions.
Xwind factor was 20g31kt. Empoyed a left crab in the approach to eliminate the lateral travel you refer to, thus keeping the airplane over center line all the way into the flare. Look closely just before touch down rudder kick; cross controls cause the left wing to dip into the wind slightly. Left main touch first, then right, and finally the nose gear. Other than the high xwind factor for this aircraft, sort of routine really.
It seems as though the pilot had 2 factors in his mind on short final. Those are "Just plant the damn plane on the ground and make sure its on the runway
Holy cow that was awesome ! At first I honestly thought it was a troll video with a green screen lol. That was wild. I've always wanted to take off and land a plane...it's the flying that gets me! Safe travels sir !
Nice job. Xwind landings are the most fun!
You would feel confident and safe on any flight with these two in the cockpit.
crab + lateral drift in short short final = win! The landing was nice though
Great landing, given the conditions...You're right about the windsock. ;)
Great job, I do not understand some of these people who question the pilot, he knew what the hell he was doing!
Nice video quality and nice landing - looked pretty gusty!
A crosswind landing, but not an extreme crosswind landing. Entirely within limits by the look of that approach.
Very well executed approach and landing!
Wow...such great skill. I felt like I was right there...nice video!
Good job flying and landing. Good video. Thanks for posting.
panda44r it sounds like you have some nice memories watching takeoffs/landings at Las Vegas. The poster said this was KVGT which is North Las Vegas. Also I imagine to the person who posted the video piloting a plane and seeing a crosswind landing from the cockpit must have been very interesting. As a student pilot having flown on a day I should not have when the wind blew up and I had to land in a 25kt 90degree crosswind it was a miserable, terrifying experience for me (as soon as I took off I knew I had made a terrible mistake thinking I would just go up and "see how it was"). Anyhow, crosswind landings are now a good challenge rather than a death defying experience but fun to look at from the plane or the ground :)
P Factor is basically propwash, which encircles the aircraft in the roll axis (front to rear), like the stripes in a candycane. This will keep the left wing up by coming from below and pushing up and it also pushes against the rudder causing the aircraft to yaw left.
Wind sensation is a magnificent moment !
Great landing!
I LOST ALL MY MONEY THERE! THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES! ....YO!
Jebus, I was holding my breath and I wasn't even on the damn plane! Well done.
very nicely done, reminded me of my days of flying in small aircrafts lol.
Great landing! gotta love that bumpy ride on approach.
Great job guys !!! Very nice landing! Thanks for video!
Nice job. I noticed a slight kick to the right when the wheels touched down since the nose was not aligned with runway, but not bad at all. For the conditions, good job.
appreciate it man. I was sittin left. At the time I was a PPL with an IFR/ME rating at 200 hours. Although I have since earned my CMEL and have considerably more experience, I still look at this video with a little bit of pride. It was gnarly out there. I have had better, but I have definitely seen worse.
Glad your video shows you landing it better
Nice job! I once had to do a 21kt direct crosswind landing in an Archer and let me tell you...I don't want to do it again! Thats what I get though for pushing the plane past the demonstrated xwind! Good job man!
Nice! I few a 1963 310 a couple of times... I love them!
Enjoyed this, great landing
yup ,,, i flew a cessna 150 out of an airport with crazy cross gusts ,, at first it was beyond me and i thought my instructor was going to give up on me ,, he didn't of course ,, with repetition , all things calmed down ,and it was rewarding to handle that crazy cross after a fashion
Nice POV shot. Very stable camera mounting as well.
Great landing given the conditions! Nothing wrong with the pilot(s) skill! ;)
I was the pilot. No, it wasn't EXTREME, but it was definitely gnarly. Thanks man!
The sound of the stall horn in the flare indicates that their speed was right where it should be because final approach is flown slightly higher than stall speed.
A twin engine airplane has a higher approach speed than a 172 does, because twins, being heavier, have a higher stall speed.
The guy who responded with the weird statement about "cutting the wind" accurately chose a username with the word "gaming" in it. Flightsim IS lots of fun, but it doesn't make players expert real pilots! :D
Great video!! Felt like I was inside with you! Seemed a fast landing touchdown? I'm not a pilot though. Very windy!! A good scary video. Thanks. Would be scarier at night time.
Very Nice Job..those crosswinds there and in New Mexico are really bad at times..was a passenger flying into New Mexico as part of a news team during the Los Alamos Fire and
despite the pilots best efforts we ended up being blown off the runway and into the brush, no one hurt, no damage..but they closed the airport for the day after that ( was a small aircraft, single runway muni airport )
Fantastic job by the pilot!
I would charge 5 ride coupons for that kind of landing. great t-down, good job love the view...
Oh right! Thanks for your kind reply! :)
Nice landing man, good training and work.
I would have labeled "Turning to Base for Runway 25" correctly as: "Turning to FINAL for runway 25." Still, this is a good video and excellent controlled flying. Well done.
Did make it look easy! Ace flying there, dude...
I know this video is old, but I'd like to add a few pointers as a Part 135 IP and CP with lots of Twin Cessna Time.
#1, When in turbulent conditions in a twin Cessna, all you need to do to stop the yawing of the nose is to step on a rudder pedal. I was practically getting airsick watching McCarren Int'l yaw left and right in the windshield.
#2, Use differential power to assist your rudder on landing, and don't get too slow. I thought I heard the stall warning horn go off over the fence, but I could have been mistaken. If you keep the power up on the upwind engine, you can land a C310Q in crosswinds far higher than listed as Max Demonstrated Crosswind Component in the POH.
I once flew right seat in a C310Q in the middle of a Blizzard on the northern prairie with a new-hire that had not yet had his checkride. We shot an ILS approach to minimums with a reported 90 degree crosswind at 25, gusting 35 knots. All the way down the final approach, we were crabbed 35 degrees into the crosswind. Oh yeah, the runway had around 6 inches of snow and slush on it. I coached the guy all the way down, and he did quite well despite being freaked out by the huge wind correction angle. At DA, I instructed him on how to use his differential power to align himself with the runway centerline (not that he could see it under six inches of snow!) and let the airplane roll out without using brakes at all. Indeed, the snow on the runway slowed us down so fast we never needed to use the brakes... Just keep her headed straight and don't windmill into the wind!
Thanks for watching and commenting. This young man you saw in the video in the left seat is now an airline pilot. Mastering the 310 really gave him some great experience and preparation for that. I think it is a superb multiengine training platform that allows pilots a great transition into the faster environment of jets and turbines. Most pilots I know who have experience in the 310 agree if you can manage that platform well, you shouldn't have much trouble flying anything else going forward. The sound you hear on short final was not the stall horn, but rather the radar altimeter signaling 50 ft.
The smaller the airplane, the more it is affected by wind gusts. The C-310 is a light twin-engine aircraft. With 30+mph wind gusts, even a B-747 is going to get pushed around a bit.
When tackling a crosswind in a light airplane, I like to make a shallow approach, "hot", no flaps and "fly" the airplane onto the runway, especially where there is plenty of room to do so, thus minimizing bobbing, ballooning and increasing directional control. It seems that the C-310 in this video came in this way.
Flying a Cessna in high winds is dangerous work. I almost stalled one while training in Colorado.
You are thinking of the max demonstrated xwind component; 20 knots is an easy crab for any Cessna. I know, I have done it a few thousand times!
He just should have been on the rudder a little sooner and touched down on the upwind wheel. A lot of people like to wait to the last minute and stomp on the rudder pedal which usually makes for a crappy landing or something dangerous.
You guys had your hands full! Good job
Still fighting it on the deck. Well done.
A methodical, cautious approach. Judging by the comments, I don't think very many people here have landed sideways before.
Great Landing. Somebody needs to call Cessna and tell them about the new maximum "demonstrated" crosswind landing.
Lol, been there done that... Actually, I threw up in similar conditions getting my Private license, and still flew back to the airport and landed the plane. Nice landing though. Judging by the engine RPM on approach and the stall at touch down, that aircraft was getting close to its safe crosswind landing range. I know it varies with wind angle and speed but you did have to stick it in there, lol! Like I said, nice job.
Thats a very good camera!
Liked the sound in 2:12
I live in Vegas and know how crazy the wind can get.. Nice bit of fliying there guys!!
I flew in and out of Vegas twice in April and the crosswinds were shocking. It was like getting hammered and trying to drive a tractor over giant potholes, only worse. (Not that I have any personal experience with that. Now i'm wondering about giving it a go.)
***** Depends on how you look at it. I kind of enjoy flying into Vegas on a hot summer day. Its a bit like riding a roller coaster. I hate everything else about flying in commercial airlines anymore, so why not enjoy a little thrill-ride to make up for everything else that sucks.