Amazing Juliana Airport St.Maarten MD-80 Cockpit Video 720p
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Today's video was filmed by our master mechanic on jump-seat JAAN, landing with a heavy 58000kg or 128000lbs in our MADDOG, with a slight crosswind. Enjoy it and a penny for your thoughts..
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What a joyful crew and a legend of an aircraft in such a beautiful part of the world. Living the dream lads!
Analogue cockpit......like a warm fireplace on a cold winters night.
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I only have eight hours flight time as a student from the 90's. The new glass cockpits look confusing as hell. Too many computers. Give me the old school method. lol
Yep. I had about 5,000 DC-9/30 PIC time in the 80s.. Same cockpit, with 14 feet more fuselage.
Sorry: 5,000 hours.
Why did people dislike this video just having an MD-80 in the video is enough for a like
Totally agree, bonus points for every time you hear the 'Stabilizer Motion' buzzer!!!
Racists.
@@acrobaticcripple8176 Plane isn't a race
My grandpa flew it
@@acrobaticcripple8176 how?
I love the MD-80 layout. The placment of everything is so practical. :)
+Ruben Kelevra its like a modern lawn mower
Ahhh! The MD-80.
I spent years of my life working on the SEM for the fuel system, (the main computer), and the CDU, (fuel quantity gauge), brings back memories!
Old cockpits are sexier than newer glass cockpits.....
Did you said cockpit”?
Yes
Nice to see the MD-80 cross wind landing at St.Maarten . Not many MD-80 still flying. It was a great airplane in it's generation. There was a very noticeable crosswind during final requiring alot of yoke movement for correction. Very nice landing in spite of the wind by the F/O!
why not crabbing with a constant angle?
Well worn MD. Flew them with MidEx back in the day. Moved on to bigger...but not better...aircraft. I'll always have a special place in my heart for them! Loved being able to pull 20deg deck angle departures and scoot out of low scud in no time. Although the 75's I flew were referred to as "muscle" jets...the MD's were no slouch. I'd happily jump into one of the seats for old times sake!
WOW!!! As a former AA ground crew, I loved those MD-80's! The cool you could do with them is what's called a "Reverse push", thus, you didn't do a tug n bar, the pilots would reverse the engines at the gate as we directed! BTW- that F/O had hands of ICE!!! He was dead on with that approach and landing!!
My father, a DC10 captain with the old Transamerica refused the station mgrs request to back the plane so they could save the cost of the pushback. He told him, you want to reverse out of here, you do it.
The pilot is going crazy with the yoke at final approach! xD
ProNerd YES AT LEAST HE DIDN'TFUCK LIKE AMERICAN A310 THAT CRASHED IN NEW YORK DUE 2 PILOTS OVER CORRECTION ON THE RUDDER 4 WAKE TURBULENCE OF FFKN kal thatJUST DEPARTED!
ProNerd Assume the MD-80 requires a lot of control wheel input when landing SXM with light cross wind.....
Yeah, still awesome how the pilot puts this bird on the ground ;)
Matthew Wells its probably becuase of the control tabs. The yoke on the MD80 does not directly move the control surfaces, they instead move small control tabs on each control surface which then flies the aileron or elevators into position.
However, in the event of a stall the elevators can be powered into the down position hydraulically. This is why you often see split elevator positions of a parked MD80.
It takes allot of input. Your just moving small tabs on the control surfaces which in turn move the larger surface. I don't miss this dinosaur at all. Lovin me some Airbus!!!!
In most airliners, moving the control wheel drives hydraulic actuators which deflect the ailerons. On the MD80 however, the control wheel is connected by a system of cables and pulleys to a 'servo tab'. This is a small control surface that is hinged at the trailing edge of the aileron. Deflection of the servo tab creates aerodynamic forces on the aileron which in turn push them up and down. The lack of a direct link results in 'sloppier' controls (for want of a better word).
That's "Princess Juliana" to you, fella. Used to keep my sailboat there in the Lagoon, and also flew in there as a 727, and later a 757, Captain. I could see my boat as I turned off RW 08, but we never over-nighted at SXM. So I had to fly down as a passenger.
Amazing yoke work! ...and for Faris Mufti, as far as the pilot "being so hard with the flight controls", that's called flying an airliner "hands on", FYI :)
That worn-out yoke at 04:38 shows the plane's age. Good job by the FO nailing the centerline (05:37)
you should know that the majority of landings nowadays is still done by the pilots (manual landing). autoland is only applied when it's really needed, e.g. when there's a lot of fog/rain and visibility is very low.
btw Princess Juliana Airport doesn't have ILS, pilots always have to land 'by hand' there. what you see them do right before landing is adjusting the autopilot for a possible go-around
combination. the md80 at these max lnd weights tents to run out of trim. big deflections are needed (lower airspeeds) and sxm has a huge mountain right in front of the rwy. gives a choppy wind. and we're based on a small island so all parts are imported. we try to save on tires and brakes. looking for that smooth touchdown each n every time plus we let it roll till the end for the brakes(when traffic permits)
I think that another important factor is the use of servotabs in order to move the controls
Favorite mad dog video by fair. Miss this legend!
I have seen this video ATLEAST 100 times. I love this video and Kudos goes to the pilot. The MD-80 is one of the hardest planes to land
Got to love the Submariner in his wrist. Very nice.
The good ole' maddog! My most favorite aircraft!
tnx! no not always do you need a lot of control input. depends on the wind, and of course weight of aircraft, runway etc. about adding power to smooth out the landing... well some people tend to do it. im not sure about doing that, if preferred to do "one" big flare input instead of adding the power. but again it all depends on the current situation. the aircraft when at max landing weight(or higher weights)tends to run out of elevator trim. hence maddog ! sometimes you just need to be agressive
Those were the days, I'd give anything to fly a pilots aeroplane like that. I fly the 737 now, most pilots would freak out on a visual approach like that. Everything is flown LNAV VNAV now, if its visual, build it in the box or fly an RNP. So sad, but the way of the future I guess. Cheers for the video
Ah, the memories of landing there on DC-3s and Convairs!!
What I thought was amazing is the a amount of control stick movement the pilot made as the aircraft flared for landing. Wow!
Great video. We landed once there as a passenger on the way to Aruba a few years ago with a KLM MD-11. It's really a great approach. Very nice to see it from a pilot's view.
@BusterBunker The MD-80, with its aerodynamically-driven ailerons and elevators, usually seems to be a bit more sluggish than jets with conventional hydraulic flight controls. This is due to the fact that when the pilot moves the control column, he or she is actually moving a control tab on each aileron, which in turn moves the ailerons through aerodynamic forces. This takes a bit of time.
Very nice video ! This maddog has -for me- a cool history. It was originally delivered new to Aero Lloyd (former german airline) in 1987. I had a trip to Mallorca (Spain) exactly on this plane in 1997. So I´am very glad to see that this bird is still flying. And I´am even more excited to know that this aircraft is now landing on my favourite airport St. Maarten. Good work ! Thank´s for sharing !!
I just want you to know that atleast 1,000 of those views are mine. I watch this video every day.
Was sorry to hear about what happened with Insel, had great times watching them and many others at St Maarten shame a lot of the classic aircraft no longer in use now.
That was a lot of yoke wrestling on landing, nice work, but.. Is this solely based on vfr and feeling at this stage or instrument based? Silly question I know, I presumed at landing speed with flaps full it takes a lots more work to battle the lessened stability. Dom (going back to school to achieve some stripes!)
I flew insel air and pawa had so much fun flying the md80s great video sad that they are bankruot niw 🥺
@BustBunker since there were crosswinds turning the yoke stops the winds from changing there approach and landing and makes the plane strait at touchdown
Over 25 years on the mad dog, nice job guys.
Hope you get things resolved with Insel.
Tnx
We are brothers... Just different paint jobs...never forget that....
Enjoyed the view from cockpit. I have always loved the MD series planes all the way from the Old DC9's to the newer models. Cool vid!
Makes me want to go on vacation!!!
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. I film thunderstorm videos from my plane for a living. I'm looking forward to the convective weather you will encounter this spring and summer. Great work!
on older boeings, they dont have the countdown. the aircraft owner could install it. we have it installed on some md80's. not all. check the other videos and you'll see. greetings
THE MD SUPER 80 AND SERIES MAKES THE PILOT(S) FLY THE PLANE AND LESS RELY ON AUTOMATION WHICH TO ME KEEP THEM FOCUSED AND BETTER OF SITUATION AWARENESS. GREAT AIRLINER AND VIDEO! THANKS.
seems like you were moving on the controls quite a bit when landing. is this caused by wind. i hear it is usually very windy there at times. nice job.
pigskin1000 actually the controls become very mushy as one slows down to landing speed so requires greater inputs
So much of inputs! I can just imagine thewinds.. Well that was pretty late n a hard landing right?
Beautiful approach and landing done by the crew.
@stevegauth30 Yep. The amber lights indicate that the reversers are unlocked, and the blue lights indicate that reverse is available.
cyba0, the entire DC9/MD-80 line had manual flight controls, except for the rudder. So basically the yoke was only connected to the control tabs, which then moved the elevators or aileron. There was always a lag in response, so that's why you see a lot of movement of the yoke. During landing on turbulence, it's possible to see the yoke go near full left/right. The F/O reaches back to trim which is also directly connected via control cable to the trim tabs. You had it right, "mechanical" plane.
That is a truly beautiful cockpit.
great video, im 15 and really wanting to be an airline pilot
+peter hoover ...Do it.....don't let anything get in your way and don't look back
Tourism or contract pilot better, much more interesting. Airliners now are like flying buses and as boring as too.
Want to be a pilot huh ? Well........try this first. Tonight at midnight clear out your wardrobe & put a chair in it. Now sit in it & close the door & stay there for 15 hours. This will simulate a back of the clock night flight. Every half hour get your mom to complainingly bring you a cold cup of coffee & shine a flash light directly in your face then drop a blacksmiths anvil on the cockpit floor. This will simulate in flt crew service & flight attendants job dissatisfaction by opening & slamming the cockpit door with cabin lights on full bright. Then get your mom to light a ships flare & put it on the wardrobe shelf near your face. This will simulate the sun rising.
Still interested ?
Don't listen to @@graemewilliams1308 , airline pilots are one of the coolest jobs to have in the world. They are one of the few well respected, well paid jobs that you don't have to sit in a cubicle or office for and do the same thing every day as the time passes. You get to see the world from above, doing things others only dream of. There's a reason they call it 'having your head in the clouds', its so amazing that to most people, it seems unattainable. Try looking up videos of people filling out insurance, bank loans, or writing wills for old people. You won't, but you can find videos of airline pilots, because THEY LOVE THEIR JOB!
@@graemewilliams1308 i guess that's what your mum told you when you want to becomes a pilot too?
A lot of work to do in the last minutes. Thanks to share.
This is an old video of an even older aircraft. That cockpit looks sooooooo old fashioned compared to current airliners.
Great Video, hope the rest of the plane is in better condition than the steering wheel!
The Co-Pilot is amazing professional and a cold cucumber! Look how busy he was!!!
alot of movement on the yoke, i liked it :) love the md-80
Sir I take my hat off to your skills as a pilot. Awesome footage :0)
Very nice. I love Md-80.
Desde el aire no se ve tan mal lapista es buena y me gusto el aterrizaje muy jovenes los pilotos Felicitaciones por el video
Gracias haitiano!
Amazing how you can do that so seemingly smooth, but your hands were flying all over the control panel all the way down. Must be lots to think about besides just setting the flaps and throttle and flying in by the seat of your pants. I learned to fly a Cessna 150 in the early 70's so these cockpit videos are extremely valuable to my fascination with flying the big ones. Thanks!
But you notice that during the jiggling the plane is not varying it's course by that much. The left to right simply moves the ailerons on the wings. I don't want to imply that this is like the steering wheel in your car (because it is not), but, you do tend to move your steering wheel left to right when you drive to make adjustments for the shape of the road without really thinking about it too much. Similarly, here, they are making adjustments for the wind--the air.
Some years ago I spent time as an A320 instructor, but those manual controls are awesome and surely missed. By the way, that type of manual controls still lives with the B-717, which is nothing more than a DC-9-40 with IAE engines and MD-11 instruments.
but there is no loc and gs in tncm ! so were left with altitude, descent rate, speed and Good airmanship :)
Gonna start FSX right away..
yeah me too
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@haitiano1982 I believe that is because the control wheel is linked to cables, rather than a Fly-by-Wire electronic system found on newer jets. Am I right?
Great video Haitiano. Just a quick question...At what point did you disengage the Auto Throttle? I can see the switch on the ON position the whole time until the reverse 4 lights come on. Am I mistaken on this observation?
Wow crazy control on the flare guess the ground had some hot thermals
have flown in the 80 series (sas)dub to cph for over 20 years and love the things,a buzz in take off and solid as a rock,a pilots aircraft! cant understand the weird comments by some folk,but hey,no accounting for taste :-) thanks for the vid,nice.
Awesome. Wow, what a maze of instruments. Will go to fb and watch. Good job. Thanks for sharing!
Beautiful approach and landing, at my favourite airport!!
sad for San marten the are emergency situation after hurricane irma
super profecional....tanto la tripulacion como el camarografo.........
He moved that control like a badass!!
Don't worry about the haters like 123ypaul. He's anonymous behind a computer while you're landing MD-80s smooth as silk. Good job and keep up the nice work.
,Brings back memories f my three weeks spent here in, ain't maarten. Hated to leave
Looks like the co-pilot has a rather nice Sea Dweller on his wrist, excellent taste! Thanks for the great videos, I have subscribed!
Remember visiting St. Maarten last year and a lot of these Insel Air MD80s were going, probably the most frequent jet you see. The engines are ridiculously loud!
Thats because TNCM has no taxiways allowing you to exit after a landing on RWY10. You have to go down to the far end of the runway for a 180° turn, taxi back some of the runway before you can turn into the apron.
Excellent channel. I was looking for good videos of MD-80 for a long time. Now I know where to find. Keep the good working!
They are just controlling altitude, descent rate and speed as well as loc and gs. Just making the needed inputs to the ap for approach. It becomes monotonous after doing it enough times. The fun part is when you disconnect the ap.
All the "pilots" who comment on aviation videos... you should know that flight sim/video game flying isn't the same thing as real flying.
Clearly. There is no turbulence. No birds to look out for or other aircraft. No thousand different gauges and switches. No ATC. It is like comparing movie racing to the real thing. But it is still fun.
sim flying is excellent for training though. but that alone doesn't qualify you to make real life input. and that's why they say every flight is different
when i fly a flight sim, i turn off crash detection and only rein-act the movie flight
***** No it isn't... Makes you develop bad habits
@rebelyell22 no it isn't... Bad habits come from yourself, and not from anything else.
you must be the type that blames others for your failures
Yes, you need a type-rating to fly other planes. I think with Airbus/Boeing you can have one rating, which allows you to fly similar aircraft in the fleet (Airbus A318/19/20/21) and so on
Superb video. Can't get enough of your flights! Keep 'em coming!
I like the window of MD 80 it looks cool
Great landing thanks for posting.
More like these please! Simply an amazing video. Thanks for sharing.
Good for you. I’m not a pilot but ‘in the end’ it looked like a pretty good touchdown. Now, where is my “penny?” Haha! :-)!!!
You always have terrific Videos. Thank you.
almost used the whole runway, amazing
i really love such old cockpits! modern cockpits are too tidy and boring for me XD
4325air, that sound is the horizontal stabiliser motion alert. The autopilot uses it to trim the pitch. If it moves more than 2 deg in 3 seconds or so, then bitchin betty also chimes in with a "stabilser motion" verbal warning. You hear this all the time flying in turbulence, and it's nothing to worry about :)
Thanks guys this is one of the best.
Nice landing!!! And nice Rolex
Thanks!
Why did you take the whole runway to stop? I've seen larger aircraft land there. Not trying to judge trying to learn. Thanks
WOW whole new respect for you pilots!
Love the MD 80 loud and rowdy
One word for this EXCELLENT. Hopi bon brother danki pa bo infight videos for di e flight deck
I fear flying this plane because of Alaska Flight 191, but in the same time for some reason I love it.
The pilot on the right is so ruff with the flight controls !!! So not right!!!
I don't know, but the plane is registered in the netherlands antilles. i found that on wikipedia.
Nice vid! Hey, it would be nice if you posted a walk around footage for the MD-80. Be safe up there, cheers
Nice Vid,, Being a Private,, My Piper Navahoo , WOW!!!!!!!! As I Got my Private In a Piper 180 0r a Cherokke 6.. That Cher 6 Was a Muslel BUILDER!! to Just use the rudders,,,, And On a 1600 ft strip,In Meriden, Ct, BEST CFI i had 36000 Hrs On Aircraft carrier,, As Neil Tought Me,,I asked What was Toughest Landing,, His Reply,, "NEVER 1 THE SAME!!!!" So when he said Hit The Numbers,,, The BEST CFII !!!! Thanks for GREAT VID!!!,,,,
What airline is this? Great video!
Great landing on short runway. Like your videos.
There is just something so satisfying about the way Douglas cockpit switchgear clicks...
Does the MD-80 not respond to input that low to the ground? It looks like the FO was banking to the left and right like crazy, but nothing was happening. Almost like the control surfaces were not responding. Or, maybe is the characteristics of the MD-80 that low the ground?
Wow, great video. Your camera has great color for 720p
What device is the co-pilot turning.....is he setting the speed of the aircraft...thks.
Excellent Vid!!! Does the MD-80 always have to have a lot of control input at lower speeds to stay on the mark? It looks like you had serious work to keep it there. Also do you find that you have to add some power in the 80 to smooth out the landing? As a passenger I seem to remember that. Do they still allow power-backs in MD-80’s?