Accessible & Inaccessible Music

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
  • On some level, all art is meant to be challenging in some way. But what happens when it’s not challenging at all? What happens when it’s TOO challenging? Today I’ll be discussing accessibility in music. The palatable, the purposely inaccessible, the artists that shift on the scale, and how it ties into success as a whole.
    Also comedy music too, because I love comedy music and felt like rambling about stuff I find cool. Hope you enjoy!!
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    I originally wanted to talk about accessibility in music in ALL meanings of the term (ie, touching on accommodations for disabled folks at shows and whatnot) but I figured it wasn’t really my place, so I stuck to just “accessibility” in terms of being palatable or challenging. BUT I highly encourage someone who’s more qualified to make a video talking about those things, because I think it would be super interesting!
    Intro to Accessibility (00:00)
    The Nauseatingly Accessible (00:32)
    Accessibility is a Balancing Act (01:53)
    The Inaccessible (02:30)
    How Visual Aesthetic Makes the Inaccessible More Palatable (04:08)
    Comedy Music (04:33)
    Ambient Music (05:50)
    Super Fast Music (06:45)
    Music Shifting On The Scale (07:42)
    Outro (11:16)
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  • @crustbag
    @crustbag  7 місяців тому +294

    Hey y'all, I hope you enjoyed the video!! I wanted to make something that was more "casual" than a standard video essay. Half way between spit-balling ideas and a fully formed essay. Idk, experimentation is cool! There were a few things I glossed over to keep it simple (Like the times when pop-focused mainstream acts were actually trying something different & cool, Ghost's aesthetic impacting their success despite being detached from their sound, Spiritbox's success, etc.) just to cut down on time. So it's not the most thorough, but I hope you enjoy it regardless!
    And here's the artists who's work was sampled: Merzbow, Unicorn on K, Big Chef, haircuts for men, Opal Vessel, Industrial Forest (me), isolated path, Christian Lovers, Akira Yamaoka, Jarrod Alonge, Sugar Wounds, & Bonegraft. Okay that's it, see ya next video 🖤

    • @teh_gangrene
      @teh_gangrene 7 місяців тому +4

      I liked this type of vid, I wouldn't mind seeing more

    • @dmplacencia
      @dmplacencia 7 місяців тому

      I have a question, what are peoples takes on Last Days of Humanity

    • @brockr294
      @brockr294 7 місяців тому

      love some Akira Yamaoka, SH2 is still one of my favorite game soundtracks of all time

    • @GoonToThrones
      @GoonToThrones 7 місяців тому

      Great vid loved it. You and wyattxhim are hands down the best music channels.

    • @fabianaa.7660
      @fabianaa.7660 7 місяців тому +1

      I LOVED this video, pls make a part 2!!! 🙏🏻

  • @Pagefire
    @Pagefire 7 місяців тому +1595

    Pop music is inaccessible for me cause Ed Sheeran doesn't sound like a broken car trying to run without gas covered in a wall of noise

    • @groovewoundz
      @groovewoundz 7 місяців тому +29

      Too real

    • @bunnirotz
      @bunnirotz 7 місяців тому +4

      andri spittin fr

    • @dmplacencia
      @dmplacencia 7 місяців тому +19

      Who need music when you have noise

    • @PhyrigianFlame
      @PhyrigianFlame 7 місяців тому +4

      Ayyy one of you guys made Nekonomicon

    • @tomobrien5345
      @tomobrien5345 7 місяців тому +16

      Taylor Swift is inaccessible to me as she isn’t singing about the terrors of war over a d-beat

  • @Zinetha
    @Zinetha 7 місяців тому +267

    I, for some reason, love it when artists are very accessible, build a huge fanbase and THEN start getting weirder and weirder... Because they were always weird on the inside, now they can just afford to be weird on the outside as well.

    • @xanist3493
      @xanist3493 7 місяців тому +9

      My first thought is Tim Buckley and Scott Walker, but I’d love to hear some more stuff like that

    • @Zinetha
      @Zinetha 7 місяців тому +1

      @@xanist3493 I was mostly thinking of Ashnikko, tbh. She's always been kinda weird, but I think she's getting weirder and weirder and I love it.
      She's mixing genres more and more, her videos are getting weirder (probably because her budget has gone up but still), her outfits, her lyrics, everything...
      In example: Her breakthrough hit Stupid is a trap song about how her ex sucks, and it blew up on Tiktok. Her newest album Weedkiller is based on a fantasy/scifi short story she wrote and to promote it, she laid in a glass box for five hours as an art installation. The progress has been gradual, but she's come a long way.
      Also, I don't really listen to him, but Kanye West did huge radio hits, became a huge star and apparently his newer music is quite weird. I've only heard clips of it.

    • @seghj
      @seghj 7 місяців тому +16

      I think of the band "Talk talk" from the 80s

    • @m0ntaggg
      @m0ntaggg 7 місяців тому +34

      literally radiohead

    • @Shrek_es_mi_pastor
      @Shrek_es_mi_pastor 7 місяців тому +3

      TOOL somewhat

  • @heroponriki666
    @heroponriki666 7 місяців тому +499

    Pornogrind is a special case because it's inaccessible to regular people but it's pretty much accessible in a way that it's a literal invitation to police officers to check your hard drive

    • @saggyshaggy
      @saggyshaggy 7 місяців тому +51

      I remember I was listening to alien fucker once (pornogrind band) and I showed my friend one of thier album covers and he just told me I was listening to felonie music

    • @ernestoemil1160
      @ernestoemil1160 7 місяців тому +4

      Lmaoo trueeee

    • @orikarin714
      @orikarin714 2 місяці тому

      @@saggyshaggy I love alien fucker, i am seeing them next week:)

    • @Avi-qn1sm
      @Avi-qn1sm 2 дні тому

      @@saggyshaggyYES DUDE like I love horny & suicidal by that band but the album cover is so cursed and I'm worried that people at my gym (for context I listen to heavier metal at the gym all the time) are going to see it on my phone and silently judge me

  • @aster1sk294
    @aster1sk294 7 місяців тому +182

    something thats kind of interesting to me is that gothic rock is not typically viewed as accessible even though a lot of it is just 80s pop but edgier

    • @truffeltroll6668
      @truffeltroll6668 7 місяців тому +25

      It is very accessible, you are right.
      But it's really accessible to people above 50 that grew up with it.
      The way that pop developed makes it less accessible for younger people.
      A lot of new listeners seem to listen to it just to be "goth", with is a bit weird.

    • @bladedragon8733
      @bladedragon8733 7 місяців тому +11

      ​@@truffeltroll6668this is a very valid point i tend to be a bit skeptical of some goths because theres so much bragging that goes on and its like... do you really LIKE the music or do you listen to it and know a lot about it for status reasons, ya know?

    • @tankermottind
      @tankermottind 7 місяців тому +7

      My only real experience with gothic rock is the MIDIs of it used in the first few maps of the Doom megawad Scythe 2 and I always thought it just sounded like ordinary pop rock when you take away the production and surface aesthetics and boil it down to the actual musical material (as a MIDI does).

    • @AcidifiedMammoth
      @AcidifiedMammoth 7 місяців тому

      So like, Ghost, right?

    • @tankermottind
      @tankermottind 7 місяців тому +5

      @@AcidifiedMammoth I wouldn't know because I forget what Ghost sound like the moment I am no longer actively hearing them.

  • @kelechi_77
    @kelechi_77 7 місяців тому +269

    I've always felt accessibility is what society deems as normal, microtonal music is a staple of countries like Turkey, but would weird people out in the west. There's also stuff like gamelan music which would be weird to people in the west. I think if the time is right, maybe through memes or something else even stuff like grindcore could become mainstream to some effect. In some ways it already is, it's the first thing people think about when I say "metal" not knowing that metal is actually a lot more accessible. Like some girl I was talking to said she could never listen to metal but then had Black Sabbath in her playlist.

    • @brimphemus
      @brimphemus 7 місяців тому +19

      grindcore becoming mainstream would be nuts! total fever dream, but i dont think i'd mind

    • @thepotatotaxi2430
      @thepotatotaxi2430 7 місяців тому +5

      grindcore physically cannot become mainstream, metal has progressively gotten more and more extreme specifically to avoid the mainstream

    • @kelechi_77
      @kelechi_77 7 місяців тому +19

      @@thepotatotaxi2430 There wouldn't be grindcore mall muzak per se but I could definitely see some gen z tiktok meme that popularizes a lot of grindcore bands

    • @brimphemus
      @brimphemus 7 місяців тому

      @@kelechi_77 a lot of random extreme music shit has gone viral.on tiktok for no reason like skramz and dsbm but i dont think that impacted the popularity of these genres in a noticeable way to be fair
      still would be funny and cool to see assück or terrorizer going viral.on tiktok for a lil while

    • @thepotatotaxi2430
      @thepotatotaxi2430 7 місяців тому +19

      @@kelechi_77 oh yeah totally, I can see You Suffer becoming a meme and leading to a small grind resurgence

  • @ElLenadorLA
    @ElLenadorLA 7 місяців тому +56

    I’ve noticed even listening to my “inaccessible bands” many times the songs I initially love on the album end up being my least favorite for being too simple and the ones I didn’t “get” at first became favorites.

    • @Max-cz3iy
      @Max-cz3iy 6 місяців тому

      Yes bro this!

  • @toastedcherries
    @toastedcherries 7 місяців тому +195

    i find it so fascinating when artists can combine some of the most accessible genres ever like rock or pop music with way less accessible genres like idm/drum & bass/etc for example without compromising anything from either side of the spectrum

    • @snowerra5881
      @snowerra5881 7 місяців тому +6

      toasted cherries based crustbag watcher ..

    • @V4ND4L1Z3RR
      @V4ND4L1Z3RR 7 місяців тому +1

      DUUUUDE did not expect to see you here holy shit love u both!!!

    • @offan-
      @offan- 7 місяців тому +9

      my favorite genre for a while has been atmo black which is literally ambient smashed into harsh low fidelity bm

    • @bah-fv2ec
      @bah-fv2ec 7 місяців тому +2

      haii

    • @scragglie
      @scragglie 7 місяців тому +4

      charli xcx did that fantastically on some of her recent albums. her newest one is pretty meh, but the 2 before are fantastic imo

  • @Vin_Vin_Situation
    @Vin_Vin_Situation 7 місяців тому +131

    Your Knocked Loose/Elvis Point reminds me a lot of Rammstein, 20-30 years ago they played in front of some hundred people and now they're nearly mainstream without sacrificing their heavyness.

    • @dwkluka511
      @dwkluka511 7 місяців тому +59

      Rammstein is kinda like the band that most "normal" people will play when they wanna be like "haha yeah, listen to this heavy stuff. So edgy and disturbing right?!"

    • @groovewoundz
      @groovewoundz 7 місяців тому +10

      @@dwkluka511nah fr

    • @AcidifiedMammoth
      @AcidifiedMammoth 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@dwkluka511Well the shock factor is there, and it's also true Rammstein songs and performances can be disturbing and NSFW, ye.

    • @Somewhere_Bagel
      @Somewhere_Bagel 15 годин тому

      @@dwkluka511 accurate

  • @llumpy
    @llumpy 7 місяців тому +116

    ITS CRUSTBAG TIME

  • @aidanpresley2146
    @aidanpresley2146 7 місяців тому +70

    knocked loose and lorna shore hitting the mainstream without watering down their sound is still crazy to me

    • @bhineasbenils7318
      @bhineasbenils7318 7 місяців тому +13

      If anything knocked loose may have gotten heavier with time!

  • @omer-sela-rothenberg
    @omer-sela-rothenberg 7 місяців тому +121

    That high five at around 3:09 should win an oscar for best visual effects

    • @bestwesterner
      @bestwesterner 7 місяців тому +1

      That’s what I’m saying bro

    • @laketoriver
      @laketoriver 7 місяців тому

      right? I was so impressed he hit that so well

    • @ann1hel
      @ann1hel 7 місяців тому

      not to ruin the fun (but im totally going to lmao)
      you can move stuff around in video editors.

    • @laketoriver
      @laketoriver 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ann1hel yeah but the fact it’s not choppy or sloppy is what we’re talking about

  • @DrShak2009
    @DrShak2009 7 місяців тому +131

    Talking about accessibility, as someone who watches a decent amount of video essays, it's nice to watch one that's kinda just short and to the point. Like, you *could* do a deep dive on everything, I'm sure there's a lot there, but you went in made your points, showed some examples and that was good enough. All in all, good video.

    • @HoodKombo
      @HoodKombo 7 місяців тому +10

      Talking about UA-cam comments, as someone who reads a decent amount of comment sections, it's nice to read one that's kinda just short and to the point. Like, you could write several paragraphs on everything, I'm sure there's a lot there, but you went in and made your point, kept it to three sentences and that was good enough. All in all, good comment.

    • @DrShak2009
      @DrShak2009 7 місяців тому +7

      @@HoodKombo Looking at youtube replies...

  • @ernestoemil1160
    @ernestoemil1160 7 місяців тому +325

    crustbag is kinda in this scale. niche, getting more recognition, but never chainging for the worst.
    keep it up man :)

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj 7 місяців тому +21

      "neash" lmao

    • @ernestoemil1160
      @ernestoemil1160 7 місяців тому +17

      @@Sergio-nb4hj man i cant White in english im from sweden :(

    • @nate.m4916
      @nate.m4916 7 місяців тому +15

      @@ernestoemil1160 that's okay, everyone can tell what word you were going for, but if you do want to know, the correct spelling is niche

    • @rubberysquid
      @rubberysquid 7 місяців тому +6

      It’s spelt “niche” :D

    • @ernestoemil1160
      @ernestoemil1160 7 місяців тому

      @@nate.m4916 @rubberysquid thx guys :)

  • @khanate1879
    @khanate1879 7 місяців тому +24

    love the Akira Yamaoka music kicking in at the wellness retreat.

  • @varjo.
    @varjo. 7 місяців тому +9

    A weird phenomenon for me as a German is definitely Rammstein. An absolutely huge internationally successful band with very little accessibility considering that they sing entirely in german and are a neue Deutsche härte/industrial metal band.
    I guess a lot of Accessibility is through their live performances which are just a spectacle but I mean people listen to their music outside of that as well. Their music does vary vastly in accessibility with anything from soft ballads to fast paced riffs, heavy drums and rough screaming vocals. But funnily enough some of their heavier songs are the more known ones when you’d generally expect the complete opposite, that their softer more agreeable songs are the ones that would do well. But I guess some of the Accessibility also comes through not actually understanding what they’re saying, I’ve seen so many foreigners really enjoy the music and then be shocked and terrified when they translate the lyrics and understand what Rammstein is actually singing about. The guitar riffs are pretty accessible too I guess, most of the time.
    But largely the international success is still a mystery to me since they’re really not very accessible. Especially because they’re a lot more popular internationally than they are here in Germany. In Germany they’re faced with a lot of controversy and hate.
    I love that they never watered down their style. They’ve been sticking to what they do for 30 years now.

    • @der_metzgermeister
      @der_metzgermeister 14 днів тому

      I think the mainstream appeal of rammstein is that a lot of their songs, the singles especially, are really catchy, and their music is overall heavy but not nowhere near heavy enough for it to be unappealing to the average human being
      As you can probably guess by my username I'm a rammstein fan, but in my personal case I really can't explain why I like their music, I just know that it makes my brain release the feel good chemicals. My first exposure to their music was when I was 12 and listened to mein teil on a music channel on TV, and my mind was absolutely blown because most of what i listened to then was boring radio grocery store-core that i can't stand today because that was all the music I knew. Its been 10 years since then and even though I don't stan the band anymore like i used to do when i was in middle school, I still listen to them every so often and they hold a special place in my heart for introducing me to a whole new world of music that I didn't know existed before.

  • @anightcreature
    @anightcreature 7 місяців тому +89

    it’s a good day when crustbag uploads

  • @kkarhiiv95
    @kkarhiiv95 7 місяців тому +6

    Here in Estonia, one time local radio station accidentally played a really good local cult classic noise- rock song. This was the only time anything interesting was played in the last 7 years.

  • @jeremylhay
    @jeremylhay 7 місяців тому +34

    Scott Walker is a good example of someone whose music got less accessible but more creative and interesting over the years.

    • @jenconvertibles
      @jenconvertibles 5 місяців тому +1

      I will die on the hill that scott 4 is his best album though

  • @roxandlol_1272
    @roxandlol_1272 7 місяців тому +112

    Crustbag was my bisexual awakening.

  • @nondescriptcat5620
    @nondescriptcat5620 7 місяців тому +23

    "but the single most inaccessible music genre humanly possible would most likely be, say it with me now"
    Merzbow?
    "Harsh Noise."
    same thing.
    if you'd told me, when Chaosphere came out, that Meshuggah would be one of the most influential bands in Metal in 25 years, i don't know if i'd be surprised or think "yeah that makes sense." the best extreme music presents the inaccessible in a way that is so compelling that people are invested enough to engage, thus it gradually becomes relatively more accessible over time. Archspire, i would imagine, is pretty opaque to normies, but they're building on Tech Death ideas that Cryptopsy and Suffocation lay down decades ago, which provides context to understand how richly articulated their aggressive walls of sound are.
    there's so much you could go into, because inaccessibility is multifaceted, it isn't just fast and heavy or intentionally abrasive stuff. there are bands that are conceptually complex or just weird. Secret Chiefs 3, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Mr. Bungle, The Residents, Captain Beefheart. often that edge of weirdness ends up making them more engaging. if you forget that Tool is popular, they're a pretty weird band; long, doomy, contemplative prog metal in odd time signatures, but that made them stand out. Primus has made a 40 year career of being accessibly inaccessible.

  • @scottoleson1997
    @scottoleson1997 7 місяців тому +17

    I think comedic music is the great catalyst to the debate of making “good” or “bad” music. Personally, I’ve found that the more fun you have making a song, it gets better reception from peers, as compared to something with a lot of struggle, complexity, or vulnerability, it’s usually a lot more polarizing, in my case at least. Not to say accessibility is the goal, but for trying to gain an audience, working smarter and not harder helps a lot.

  • @moonwarmth124
    @moonwarmth124 Місяць тому +3

    seeing bo burnham and big chef on the background summarizes comedy music perfectly.

  • @garlicenthusiast2285
    @garlicenthusiast2285 7 місяців тому +32

    2:44 as someone who has seen gutalax several times live and always enjoyed them, i totally get this video from the bottom of my heart. sometimes sampled fart and shit noises mixed with gutturals and heavy guitars is everything ye need in life...

  • @TheGallicWitch
    @TheGallicWitch 7 місяців тому +17

    Here I thought you were making a video about accessibility options in music for Deaf/HoH people and I was super excited as both a disabled artist and a disability activist myself (on top of that, my main area of activism IRL and online is accessibility). Ah well, perhaps another time.

  • @JT-nk3sh
    @JT-nk3sh 7 місяців тому +29

    for me, accessible music is very inaccessible since i was very young. when i tried to get into punk, i thought it wasnt for me (i listened to dead kennedys and crass), until i heard nails for the first time and it immediately clicked for me

    • @Heisenbinks
      @Heisenbinks 7 місяців тому +7

      Nails is sick 🤘🤘

    • @illdeletethismusic
      @illdeletethismusic 7 місяців тому +4

      sometimes there is a craving for a style you don"t yet know exists.
      back in the 2000s, when radio stopped playing rock here, i thought i didn"t like contemporary music.
      then i heard Marilyn Manson, then progressed through Motörhead, Metallica, Dagoba, Kataklysm, Suicide Silence, Meshuggah, and within a year was at Deathspell Omega.
      and from there it didn"t take long to get into various extremes, Wormed, Portal, Braindrill, Government Alpha

  • @anothersettlementneedsyour9628
    @anothersettlementneedsyour9628 7 місяців тому +8

    Biggest example that follows the Elvis pattern is jazz. Jazz used to be called devil’s music back in the day. Now it’s probably the most universally liked/accepted/tolerated music.
    Ya like jazz? Everybody seems to like jazz or at least not dislike it.
    It’s not just because it’s old, country is pretty old too and you find plenty of people who dislike country. Even though by definition country is accesible as it gets.

    • @Somewhere_Bagel
      @Somewhere_Bagel 15 годин тому

      tbf that was probably most likely cause it was deeply rooted in african american culture, but as time went on eventually people were like. hollyyyy shit this negro sure can play. same with rock n roll probably as well. two fantastic genres that shaped the future of music forever.

  • @tsu_bell
    @tsu_bell 7 місяців тому +4

    i never thought of it as “accessibility”, that’s a good way to put this phenomenon. i noticed this kind of thing going on with music and other forms of media/interests among people. there are elements in popular media that is easily digestible to the general population (and maybe it even comes down to the wiring of people’s brains, personalities, culture/location, what type of upbringings and which are more common, etc.). in my own experience, observing the people i’ve always been surrounded by vs. those outside of my life or most of the population in general (in America/the west specifically), there more you diverge from the rest of society the more likelihood you have of being more drawn to the “inaccessible”. I’m autistic and i’ve always had a difficult time relating to most other people so I always isolated or found people like me to be close to; we’ve all tended to have our own strange niche interests. there’s definitely other autistic people who want to be among/relate to the general population so they may be more interested in the “accessible” side of things anyways. the rest of the world who do prefer more accessible media, the trends can provide a lot more relatability (not just that but more, i just don’t have the words for the thought rn) to these people that those of us who lean more towards the inaccessible don’t relate to. i’ve always had a hard time getting into music everyone else seems to be into (besides nu metal lol but that does lean more towards inaccessible but is still popular enough to be accessible).

    • @tsu_bell
      @tsu_bell 7 місяців тому

      i feel like i have so much more i want to think and say about this i just can’t at the moment in that one comment

  • @bestwesterner
    @bestwesterner 7 місяців тому +10

    It’s a good day when DJ Crazy Dick uploads

  • @strengthmonk
    @strengthmonk 7 місяців тому +30

    Regarding speed, the slower you make something, it also becomes super inaccessible, i.e. funeral doom. I think there was a study done on an average listener's preferred bpm (might have been specifically about workout music actually) but it seems that the 80-120 bpm range is pretty normal. You slow it down to 30 ala Bell Witch or Thergothon and people get restless lol

    • @brimphemus
      @brimphemus 7 місяців тому +2

      that's true, i mean dude i'm a huge fan of metal and i've been getting heavy into sludge and doom recently... and i still struggle to "handle" funeral doom! the songs are so fucking long!!

    • @strengthmonk
      @strengthmonk 7 місяців тому +1

      @@brimphemus it's good music for getting reeeeeaaaally inebriated to lol

    • @AcidifiedMammoth
      @AcidifiedMammoth 7 місяців тому

      Agreed haha, I mostly stick to the faster songs of DoomMetal, slower ones, like realllly slowerrr ones are lost on me.

  • @jbbabits7033
    @jbbabits7033 7 місяців тому +7

    The joy when I saw that you posted

  • @Kino_the_Crusty
    @Kino_the_Crusty 7 місяців тому +7

    death grips are exactly that "harsh noise using accessible elements" you mentioned at the start
    like i recall getting the privileges to play my own playlists at work back at 2015 and like 3 people said "wtf are you doing?" but to match that energy, like 12 of the most valley girl customers you've seen in your life approached me and said "i love this, i need to know the name of this song" when no love came on the shuffle
    (also shout out to You might think he loves you... for getting all the cute gay boys to approach me to talk EDM)

  • @juli7xxxxx
    @juli7xxxxx 7 місяців тому +9

    06:01 I can not escape Guitar Hero. Not that I want to! It was and always will be a huge part of my journey through music and I still enjoy whichever iteration of the 5 button Plastar. But I really can not escape it.

  • @illcuin40
    @illcuin40 7 місяців тому +15

    who's up crusting their bag rn ?

    • @dmplacencia
      @dmplacencia 7 місяців тому +3

      You stop when you’re asleep?

  • @dojapup
    @dojapup 7 місяців тому +3

    most of my playlists have a full scale of katy perry jcpenny elevator pop but then itll plummet right down to a local town harsh noise band

  • @isapelaa
    @isapelaa 7 місяців тому +6

    I really enjoyed the video!! It makes me think about the boom that brazilian funk music is getting recently. I am brazilian and it really is one of the most liked and common genres here, but internationally people were amazed by how "different", "weird" and "catchy" it sounds (quote-on-quote because to me it just sounds normal bc of my cultural background). Rlly like your videos!! I always find out about cool artists by them too :)

  • @raito34
    @raito34 7 місяців тому +9

    Very interesting video and topic! It's interesting how rare it is to see someone talk about it. I think that this topic needs more attention, especially with a lot of alternative musicians getting mega famous over night due to TikTok.

  • @soupycat1011
    @soupycat1011 7 місяців тому +6

    For me, ambient music is fun to listen to because I have synesthesia. I get to watch pretty colours and shapes whilst nice calm sounds play. Ambient is also surprisingly emotive sometimes, which is awesome for writing or other fun hobbies I have. But I love so many styles of music, especially different metal genres because of the fun shapes and colours that I get to see with them. Music is so fascinating when you have synesthesia istg

    • @skrety9250
      @skrety9250 7 місяців тому +3

      bro what do u see if u listen to like deathcore?

    • @icankillbugs
      @icankillbugs 7 місяців тому

      ​@@skrety9250An endless sea of asses spraying stinky diarrhea everywhere

    • @ranjith27
      @ranjith27 7 місяців тому +2

      @@skrety9250now we know who makes the Darko US videos

    • @soupycat1011
      @soupycat1011 7 місяців тому +1

      @@skrety9250 its hard to describe, but the best comparison I have is tv static. Loud noises look like bright flashes, and deathcore itself is just fuzzy staticy mess, sometimes with a colour mixed in, usually red or blue, it really depends on the instrument and the notes being played

  • @compizard3629
    @compizard3629 7 місяців тому +4

    Classical music is a great example of this

  • @SomeRandomPersonOnYoutube
    @SomeRandomPersonOnYoutube 7 місяців тому +4

    6:00 bro HUGE shoutout to you using GuitarHeroPhenoms Through The Fire And Flames video for that lol. Thats fucking awesome. Also I kinda wish that Psychostick would've been brought up when talking about Comedy Music cause they're absolutely killer and hilarious, but I digress.

  • @houstonhebert7893
    @houstonhebert7893 День тому

    Knocked Loose got me into the hardcore scene and it was because of the hype around them. Never even knew that type of music existed before i was introduced to them. Wont claim OG fan but thanks to them having those accessible tracks like Counting Worms gave me a bite-sized piece of a much larger amazing genre

  • @BlackAbbath0
    @BlackAbbath0 7 місяців тому +5

    Dude I've watched every video of yours at least 4 times. You genuinely have the perfect formula for a youtuber.

  • @galacticrainz3670
    @galacticrainz3670 День тому

    just found this guy recently and ive been loving the vids! When i watch his vids i feel comfortable just beacsue its so cool to see people that enjoy this music as much as me and the style that comes with it.

  • @alexr4314
    @alexr4314 7 місяців тому +5

    Immediate thumbs up for Lil Texas & Unicorn on K but for real I appreciate the passion put into this video. As an enjoyer of these styles it's nice to hear someone go into depth about them.

  • @gloomygrapes5576
    @gloomygrapes5576 7 місяців тому +3

    This was so good🖤 you're always getting me to appreciate harsh music even more🥰

  • @jeandelahell9741
    @jeandelahell9741 5 місяців тому

    I'm so glad I found your channel, your editing job keeps it entertaining and generally themes are really interesting. Thank you!

  • @n0etic_f0x
    @n0etic_f0x 14 днів тому +1

    Be me: Listen to Pulse Demon... this is calming, I am going to clean my house to this.

  • @Lo1the_one_and_only
    @Lo1the_one_and_only 7 місяців тому +5

    These video essay's are so amazing, keep it up man

  • @izzyhollyhead
    @izzyhollyhead 7 місяців тому

    loved this video!! it’s a very interesting topic to think about thats never really crossed my mind before. can’t wait to see what you put out next!

  • @andreacolino401
    @andreacolino401 6 місяців тому

    god I loved this video so much. it was extremely interesting to see someone put into words so eloquently something I’ve thought about for some time but had no idea how to process. probably one of my favourite videos of you!

  • @CrypticJasmine
    @CrypticJasmine 7 місяців тому +2

    This was incredibly interesting and the way you presented everything had an engaging and natural flow. Great topic and video!

  • @bottlemanic
    @bottlemanic 7 місяців тому

    A topic that has swirled around my head forever and you covered it so well i feel i came away with an even greater aporeciation for my innacessible tastes. Excellent stuff bro, subbed

  • @chcrlxttc
    @chcrlxttc 7 місяців тому

    LOOOVEE these video essays so much man, keep it up!!!

  • @charlisebar-shai2613
    @charlisebar-shai2613 7 місяців тому +1

    Your videos deserve so much more attention man. I discovered you through your incel vs metal lyric video, and I've been hooked ever since. Genuinely one of my favorite channels. Keep putting out bangers man ❤

  • @thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688
    @thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688 4 місяці тому

    This was great. I feel like I've been watching some of my favorite bands creeping towards accessibility lately, and this video helped me crystalize my thoughts on the discussion I've been having with myself over it. This is a topic I think about a lot. I would listen to you talk about this for a lot longer.

  • @johncollyeraravena7968
    @johncollyeraravena7968 7 місяців тому

    Hey! Just wanted to say thank you 💜 your channel just became my go-to place to be safe and relax after a hard day. You're so fucking cool and genuine and I really appreciate that 💜 big hugs from Chile 🤗

  • @useless.b0nes
    @useless.b0nes 7 місяців тому

    hey crustbag i just wanted to say that I fucking love your videos! i love that you are really passionate about music and its awesome to see other metal/ actually alternative people out there and not doing it for clout. love your videos long or short ill pretty much always watch :)

  • @orionilgner
    @orionilgner 7 місяців тому

    This video is one of the best videos ive watched in the past few months. Thank you!!!

  • @saggyshaggy
    @saggyshaggy 7 місяців тому +3

    I have always loved the inecsseable stuff. Not because it's underground and almost no one listens to it, but I genuinely enjoy the sound of them. Not many people get it, but I just love it. My favorite genres are dsbm, power electronics (which is bassicsly harsh noise but with vocals), slam metal and brutal death metal, and extreme doom metal subgenres. Also, goregrind and deathcore. I just felt like sharing that with everyone.

  • @RandomCanEHdian
    @RandomCanEHdian 7 місяців тому

    This is one of the best commentary videos I have EVER seen and am eager to see your future content!

  • @OakLeaf_
    @OakLeaf_ 7 місяців тому

    i love this topic so much and i loved hearing your take on it! awesome work as always :DD

  • @f3rny_66
    @f3rny_66 7 місяців тому +3

    I love that the premise is that pop is too simple and repetitive.. and the goes hard into repetitive noise music lmao

  • @DJPastaYaY
    @DJPastaYaY 6 місяців тому +1

    Really great video. VIdeos discussing music genres/popularity always seem so interesting.

  • @nightlife4857
    @nightlife4857 7 місяців тому

    keep putting out bangers like this w this much dope original insight & you’re gonna be on k//l’s trajectory in no time

  • @rampdavidson6397
    @rampdavidson6397 7 місяців тому +1

    Shoutout to Kilby Court! I went to a few shows there around 2009 or so, but I don't live in those parts anymore.

  • @Trelkovsky69
    @Trelkovsky69 7 місяців тому +6

    Cool video. I don't really know Knocked Loose, but the way you tell it, it sounds like they didn't become more accessible, but more accepted by sticking to their unaccessible music. While Code Orange really became more accessible. Sorry to be nitpicking. Love your videos! Cheers from munich, germany!

  • @menacetoscty
    @menacetoscty 7 місяців тому +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing me Lil Texas, i instantly loved it!

  • @venturer6378
    @venturer6378 6 місяців тому

    Cool video, the shifting of accessibility is a really interesting topic to me. Especially when you see some bands you like growing in popularity without changing their sound (like Knocked Loose). It makes me wonder how the music scene will continue to shift and what other bands or artists will become more recognized because of it.

  • @PeMeYo
    @PeMeYo 7 місяців тому

    Really interesting and thought-provoking topic, I think for me and many others who listen to music a lot the accessibility in music comes from new and fun musical ideas in music.

  • @radiactive4986
    @radiactive4986 7 місяців тому

    im late because i wait for the PERFECT time to watch your videos. everything has to be perfect and its always worth it

  • @maismehl2255
    @maismehl2255 7 місяців тому

    I really hope this vid gets more attention!! I really enjoyed it

  • @nic.plesko
    @nic.plesko 7 місяців тому

    This is literally a debate I had in my timbre class. Very interesting and I love the objective lens you had

  • @ssaamil
    @ssaamil 6 місяців тому

    You spoke to my soul in this video!
    Even the examples! VI's drummer is one of my fav drummers, and Archspire is one of my fav Tech Death bands. And also as a musican who produces genres like extratone, harsh noise, hypertone, and more experimental stuff, talking about the "inaccessible" end of this spectrum and showing your appreciation made me happy.
    cheers inaccessible brother!

  • @carboncopyuncut
    @carboncopyuncut 7 місяців тому +2

    Hey!!
    You featured some clips of mine around the 1:20 and 7:20 marks. thanks for usin em, someone sent it to me and it was cool and i hadn't heard of your channel
    Just wanted to say this is a SOLID take, agreed af. My general philosophy with makin tunes is making weird experimental sounds for curiosity sake then giving it some familiar/accessible context.

  • @aaroninlatin
    @aaroninlatin 4 дні тому

    Looking at harsh noise within the context of good or bad is an approach that will generally land opinions fully in the latter. Listening to those pieces as an experience where you let it take you along with it has usually caused me to have a more positive opinion on it. I love to lay on my living room floor and turn the music up extremely loud and just take it all in.

  • @thatsharakiri178
    @thatsharakiri178 7 місяців тому +1

    yellow swans - going places is the only accessible noise album i know

  • @Hyperenealogical_Genesis
    @Hyperenealogical_Genesis 7 місяців тому

    YAYAYAYAY NEW CRUSTBAG :3333
    Anyway come down from trip to see this thank youuu ‼️‼️‼️

  • @chloversp5799
    @chloversp5799 7 місяців тому +2

    something else that i note with people into inaccessable music, is that they will have the widest music taste youve ever seen
    in 3 levels
    you got me.
    i enjoy stuff speedcore and uptempo like UoK and diabarha
    then i like asking alexandria, prmsky kray, bulgarian folklor choir like kaval svidi
    then i enjoy katy perry, James blunt and alec benjamin and modern talking (sometimes bland ass easy to read shit is good, also cheri cheri lady is briliant)
    then i have a friend who likes afourteen, chemical burn by sophiaaaah and killdozer
    then she likes mongolian throat singing, sabaton, and some other russian artist i cant remember
    then she enjoys lana del rey, taylor swift and Olivia rodrigo
    nothings wrong with liking the safe music imo, sometimes its good and you just need to chill/turn your brain off by having the music equivalent of a glass of water

  • @kewpieteeth
    @kewpieteeth 7 місяців тому +3

    it's just like with scowl, they have become more accessible as of recent with the release of opening night and psychic dance routine (both the song and ep). but what is really cool is that they didn't stray from hardcore although they experimented with alt rock. it's really interesting to see their crowds now are a mix of hardcore kids and people who just like their music but aren't really into hardcore. you can easily tell which is which and that is a fun game to play

  • @AlLeftyPenguino
    @AlLeftyPenguino 7 місяців тому +1

    I’ve been sick all day binging your content. I wake up, and see a new upload. The fucking goat fr.

  • @rookbranwen8047
    @rookbranwen8047 7 місяців тому +1

    I have the unfortunate fate of working at my local convenience store and can confirm that the music is exactly like what you described at the start of the video. with the occasional decent old rock or metal song. I got so tired of it that I started bringing my own music. Whenever I have a shift that keeps me in the back of the store, you can find me jamming out to a mix of classic and modern rave music in genres such as Hardcore, Speedcore, Breakbeat, Uptempo, Hardstyle, Acid, and DnB.

  • @vipersb1
    @vipersb1 Місяць тому +1

    Very well done, sir. You've earned a sub for this.

  • @manytinyboxes
    @manytinyboxes 7 місяців тому

    this video is actually amazing, thank you :)
    edit: love the health merch!!!!

  • @hearingcolors
    @hearingcolors 7 місяців тому

    I noticed some powerviolence bands on your wall, got me more interested in your videos. Talk about inaccessible! I used to play in PV band in the late 90s, and I used to think the genre would die out and become forgotten. Glad to see it's still alive. Iron Lung kicks ass!

  • @aidanfriedfeld8889
    @aidanfriedfeld8889 7 місяців тому +3

    When I first saw death grips they were opening for ministry and tickets were 50$ maybe even less. I just tried to go see their recent tour and the closest event to me was a stadium show where the worst seats were still almost 100$ and also sold out several months in advance.

  • @ryanstrilchuk5870
    @ryanstrilchuk5870 6 місяців тому

    Great video man! One thing I really enjoy is when an artist starts their career with something that sounds more widely appealing but then journies into some obscure genre, often keeping some of the core aspects of their old music, making something unique and new. One band I think did this very well was System of a Down but I would love to hear about some other examples!

  • @daammobandito7961
    @daammobandito7961 7 місяців тому +4

    As a musician myself I find myself at kind of an impasse with accessibility. I've gone into my current alias with the philosophy that I want to do what I want to do when I want to do it, that I'd refuse to be pinned down to any one genre. Which means at any one song I could be feeling VERY accessible, and then the next I'll break out harsh noise walls of brutality. This leads any multi song project I make, whether they be EPs or full length LPs, to flip flop when it comes to the "normalcy" of my art which in itself makes the projects more inaccessible in the long run. For example, the current album I'm working on so far has influences ranging from Sewerslvt to 1788-L to Massive Attack to Burial to Kazuma Kubota to Venetian Snares and a lot more. It's all over the place, which I see as leaning more inaccessible in it's own right even if individual songs play it safe at times. Really good video on an interesting seldom discussed topic!

  • @Killjoy_official
    @Killjoy_official 7 місяців тому +1

    i saw the hannatarash clip 💪💪💪 i know they’re kind of a mini joke, but i genuinely enjoy them lol

  • @Devi_D.
    @Devi_D. 7 місяців тому +2

    Knight and crustbag should make a video together, their videos aren’t super similar, but it’s the two men with the best hair in the business.
    (Please do a vid with Knight, that would be *so* cool dude)

  • @TrophySon1996
    @TrophySon1996 7 місяців тому

    I hope you'll be consistent into putting more content at this point, I'm starving for it

  • @alex11v3
    @alex11v3 7 місяців тому +1

    I find it funny your points about ambient and noise music, because they are literally the different sides of the same coin. Its like noise music is the goth sister from the christian and peaceful ambient sister. For me noise music can be as relaxing or as mezmerising as ambient music.

  • @asciicatface
    @asciicatface 7 місяців тому

    I could watch vids on bands and accessibility all day. great vid

  • @Cheezburgercatz
    @Cheezburgercatz 7 місяців тому

    another banger, lov u crustbag

  • @isaacjamesbaker
    @isaacjamesbaker 7 місяців тому

    Great video. Intelligent and well said stuff. Also I saw Vicera Infest in a brewery and was a few feet from the drummer with my jaw dropped. Insane. And such a great band.

  • @bnnyhop
    @bnnyhop 7 місяців тому

    appreciated the subtle sh2 sound effects and ost through the vid

  • @mycharacterisamenace-qu4zx
    @mycharacterisamenace-qu4zx 6 місяців тому

    fascinating video! lots to think about. i think the point on replicability is especially noteworthy. if a song can be hummed or sung along to, it's memorable, and it's approachable to the listener, which affects how fans interact with it.

  • @mikeydakiddo6903
    @mikeydakiddo6903 7 місяців тому

    It make me happy when crustbag uploads

  • @axiomgr33ne
    @axiomgr33ne 7 місяців тому

    Great Video! Every video you upload is awesome, keep it up!

  • @justdirt
    @justdirt 2 місяці тому

    I personally love Harsh Noise. Hanatarash is one of my favorite niche celebrities ever. ICEP3AK actually had a break in their sets at their US concerts where the dude would play his noise music mix.
    I was the sole member of the audience cheering. There was like 150 people max too so he definitely noticed I was the only one vibing.

  • @noahmcalister
    @noahmcalister 7 місяців тому

    Dude I can't believe I haven't seen your stuff till now, this was awesome. So many great thoughts here.
    I think it's also interesting to consider how things feel more accessible as you're exposed to them. Like, first time I heard The Downward Spiral by NIN, I was like, what is this? But after a few listens, I was into it and it clicked, which in turn opened me to more "inaccessible" sounds. So I wonder how that fits into public perception of a band changing, if it's just something where as people are shown a band (or anything else) more, they get used to it and enjoy it. That's how I became a Death Grips fan, my cousin kept showing me them, and I got into them that way.
    Also 3:06, love Health, can't wait for Rat Wars to drop