The issue around public education is draining funds from low income areas to fund charter schools that last maybe 5 years, leaving the public schools unable to support its students.
The 80's had grade inflation in the suburbs. The 50+ RW W Whiners today had their own "Affirmative Action". Even today, great colleges still have basic writing classes, weeded out in freshman week skills testing.
Churches don’t pay taxes because that’s bad.. but also churches can run private schools that get tax dollars.. and people say this shit with a straight face.
Agreed. But that’s why they named them “Charter Schools.” It is simply a branding - a way to not advertise the fact that tax moneys are being used for parochial schools. And they are always asking for more money.
Big disagree-at least on the private side. When I was ten years old, I was bullied out of the public school system. My mother had to sue the local system to get me into a publicly-funded private school that was made for special needs kids. We *need* private schools because the public school system simply can’t be a “one-size-fits-all” pedagogy. Edit: It’s amazing how some people claim to care about education and kids being safe and then refuse to even consider practical alternatives or exceptions in order to remain ideologically pure. This is the same problem as right wing parents dictating what is allowed to be taught but from the opposite side! Another great example of why educational policy needs to be left in the hands of professionals, not ideologues.
Yup, gatekeeping education and making education whatever fascist theocratic nonsense they want. They so desperately want to keep fueling the racist systems that give them all the power, privilege, and security in society while spitting on and kicking down on everyone else.
Well look at the boeberts and the MTG types. There are a lot of educated politicians, who arguably are more evil for doing this shit, but they know that the deeply ignorant, superstitious, and indoctrinated in American mythology, are incredibly easy to manipulate and make vote how you want them too. It's the way you get people to vote against their own interest..like voting for removing the regulations that bring a train crashing into your town.....
That's the point. Though the rich aren't all that smart (see: Elon Musk). It's quite likely their kids will end up with much worse education too. It'll just look nicer and cost more and have better security.
We really don't talk enough about the fact that public schools are funded by local property taxes, so that children raised in poorer neighborhoods are condemned to a sub-standard education.
Its not sub standard because teachers for the most part care and try and do a good job... but dude they are being squrezed and theres no resources. Freaking lab rquipment being paid out of pocket by the science teachers or the inventory manager responsible
Seems like austerity bullshit. The entire country benefits from having an educated population, so the entire country should pay for it. The only people who don't benefit is people who want to exploit others, and to them I say too bad you'll have to stick to using your own kids for that.
Universities in the rest of the country need to step in and outright tell florida if they do this, their students will be ineligible for higher education.
@@stacyalderman2352 oh im not saying um is bad or anything, on the contrary. What im saying is that i highly doubt um will go against desantis. Half the board dines and donates/gets money from the man
Today's fascism was BUILT on islamaphobia and the fake war of terror, which btw never concluded, just disappeared during Covid. No terrorist attacks under Trump, but that's just coincidence _"If you're not with us, you're with the Terrorists"_ George Bush Jr 2001 It was all predictable, I know cos I predicted it, over 20 years ago 76% of Democrats agreed with that war, none of you can explain why
Absolutely! I've been screaming to anyone who would listen for years now that the most important aspect of any democracy is a high quality, well-funded, non-religious, public education system.
This destruction of our schools was not an accident. During the Reagan years we had the largest middle class in our history. This was making the 1%ers nervous as they were worried the strong middle class would take over the country and make laws to benefit them instead of the laws benefiting the very wealthy. So a planned several pronged approach was implemented and one prong was the destruction of our educational system to knock out the middle class. Back in the 30's and 40's educators from France came for several months to study Detroit schools and why they were so successful and the kids in that city system were highly educated. My grandmother was a principal of a school in Detroit in those days and she was one of the educators working with the French for those months.
@@georgia777look at the difference in Detroit from them to now. What's the demographics off the classroom? THAT'S why education is failing. When blacks just don't want to learn, they won't. That's not our problem
Love Sam’s take but he misses one point about a goal about the Devos plan. Yes, they would not mind if tax $ went to parochial schools but they also want that $ flowing into corporate pockets through charters. It is one of the greatest grifter capitalist opportunities of this century.
Exactly! It's a huge giveaway of public funds to corporate billionaires. And accomplishes the other goals of defunding public schools, especially in low income areas. And they get to create a captured audience of little ultraconservatives who will eventually vote and donate in lockstep with these loons. Democrats should be screaming bloody murder about this.
Evidently they can. They're using my tax dollars to distribute vouchers in my state. The public schools in my area need all the funding they can get but Sarah Huckabee Sanders knows she and her rich friends can't tap into that funding, directly. It's a way to starve out public schools and divert the funding into the pockets of the rich Republicans who own the private schools.
@@wholewheatkittyfeet9353 It's designated for the good of the public. Public education benefits everyone in society and this is the equivalent to using city or county taxes to pave your own driveway.
@@wholewheatkittyfeet9353 No, my tax dollars are paying for other people's children to go to public schools. I'm saying you can't have mine to send them to your own preferred private schools that have no government oversight. Pay for it yourself.
All "school choice" really means is I'm a Conservative who wants to send my kids to a religious and/or private school where they won't teach subjects that I disagree with or feel uncomfortable about.
All "choice" ever means in US politics is the choice of rich people to do bad things to the rest of us. Once you understand that, the rhetoric falls flat and then you see it everywhere... and also the scale of the problem.
@@michaelthompson7217I like how you say that as if conservatives weren't already doing that I was in school once they actually stopped teaching creationism
This was a satirical joke what like 3 years ago? That Prager frickin U would be made part of school curricula. Wtf is going on?!!! I swear the US has completely lost the plot.
Today's fascism was BUILT on islamaphobia and the fake war of terror, which btw never concluded, just disappeared during Covid. No terrorist attacks under Trump, but that's just coincidence _"If you're not with us, you're with the Terrorists"_ George Bush Jr 2001 It was all predictable, I know cos I predicted it, over 20 years ago 76% of Democrats agreed with that war, none of you can explain why
Don't move to a red state....we find your support for hardcore pornography in K-3rd and using public schools to mutilate kids behind their parents backs just as sickening. So we no longer live in a blue state with that kind of low grade "education".
Tim Pool: According to the mega-donors who fund my podcast, the solution to your misery under capitalism is WORK HARDER, SERF!! MORE TIME IN THE MINES!!!!
Where are the taxpayers on this issue? Won't their taxes go up? And let's apply the same logic that people are using for college loan forgiveness: my parents had to pay out-of-pocket to send me to Catholic School, and now they're just going to give it away to everybody? Oh and by the way, the Catholic school was a vastly inferior education to the public school. We spent 45 minutes a day on religion when we could have been studying sing useful like science. We didn't get science until ninth grade and it was a lame course called "survey of science". (Of course, 9th grade is the year that you usually teach biology so they skirted by that one.) And the public school starts a foreign language in 7th grade instead of 9th. Plus, I always felt that we got the bottom-of-the-barrel lay teachers because they couldn't get hired in the public school, which paid more. And the nuns were just insane and abusive. I happily sent my son to public school and he got a superior education. He went on to graduate summa cumlaude in computer science from Drexel and then go on for a PhD in Material Science. People have got to start speaking out about the horrible, crappy education they got in a religious school.
I will never forget the ladies luncheon I was dragged to in the early '80s in Detroit, Michigan, with Betsy DeVos as speaker. I was familiar with her and her views and had met her a handful of times. During the speech I assumed the vast majority were supportive of her and her plans as she spoke very openly on her goals. This voucher dream of hers was struggling so according to her they changed the focus to poor, minority kids getting a chance at a better school but then saying as she was also laughing, this will never happen but we need to stress this so we (meaning all of us upper middle class white women) can finally get a break on our private school costs. She then at one point in the speech asked the women present who really wants to spend more on educated house cleaners? DeVos was the deciding focus to change how schooling was organized in Michigan. She got through the system that there would be ZERO oversight on these charter schools; no accountability, no financial investigations, no testing results, no proof after the school gets the money that they are really a school. Michigan became known as the Wild West of Charter Schools...and now it's spreading throughout the country. As an endnote, I have never been a conservative and as I get older I get more liberal but my friend who dragged me (and paid my fee as a lure to attend this function) was dating DeVos' brother at the time, Eric Prince. Yes, that Eric Prince of Blackwater infamy. On another side note it must be remember that DeVos doesn't even believe public schools should exist. In her words (paraphrased) if you can't afford to privately educate your kids or homeschool them then they can remain uneducated and provide the services for the upper class. An uneducated class is a class that won't fight for better wages or better working conditions.
Does anyone else who watches Progressive UA-cam channel videos keep getting bombarded by PragerU, Turning Point USA, & Daily Wire video ads before the actual video begins?
I think it's the title of the video, they share similarities between right wing content in what they talk about. If so, obviously the algorithm isn't so sophisticated that it can't tell when it's advertising political content to polar opposite content that just happens to share the same underlying stories or topics. It's really frustrating, all they care about us ad money, yet these incompetent corporations continue to shovel ads at me for stuff I already have or ads that any real *person* would understand I'm not interested in. Another theory, they're evil and just want to torment leftys with cringy and horrible ads that promote fascism...
I am sick and tired that my tax money goes to private schools instead of a public schools!!! If you want your child go to a private school then YOU pay for it! Quit taking MY tax payer money to pay for your kid!
@@theobserver9131I know that this is a little off topic, but that's not a great analogy,in severe cases of alcoholism people can die from withdrawal, the best way to avoid death is reducing intake.
Yea that "accredited" education the left is on here crying about......has been total dog shit for years. Florida is actually doing something about it and they're big mad. Probably scared that some kids who aren't crippled, black and trans might be allowed to achieve.
This country is a joke at this point. Look no further then Mitch McConnell an actual dinosaur/turtle and one of the most powerful politicians in the country literally stroking out while delivering a statement and having to be helped/escorted out. Then we have Joe Brandon, a man that 99% of people who voted for him did so reluctantly and who also belongs in a nursing home. No one wants him but unless he drops dead in the next year, which isn't impossible he will likely again be the only/least shitty choice.
As bad as public school can be, it is generally better than the alternatives. Most private schools are religious indoctrination centers, and people who homeschool their kids typically do so for that same reason. Not always, but most of the time.
As someone who was raised by religious parents who homeschooled me in Utah. I wish that I was not homeschooled. The most I learned on a subject was when I went part time to public school and took chemistry. I was a good enough student that when I got my GED I got full marks in that subject. Many of the subjects that my mom was "teaching" me was just giving me a book to work through by myself and self report on back to her
@@garysmokesmeatI would have to see that data because I have met a number of homeschooled kids in my day. Intelligence is not a word I often use with them.
@@MW66VB a 2 second google search shows that homeschool kids have a 67% graduation rate vs 57% for public schools kids. And GOOD GOD, I didn’t realize it was that low. That is pathetic.
School choice? Actively choosing against high standard curriculum, against mandated special accommodation standards, against target subsides that directly support impoverished students. Fund public education, stop voucher programs!!!
Even if those problems didn't exist. School vouchers are just a direct transfer of taxpayer dollars to the rich who own private schools. I always am against taxpayer money making rich people even richer.
No they employed the high standard curriculum, communism and explicit porn =/= high standards in education, contrary to "progressive" beliefs. Yes the republicans gave the people a choice and cut back on wealth redistribution... letting people keep more of what's rightfully theirs, as they were democratically elected to do. Democracy.... suck it loser.
@@Techlax43 Let's have that talk, 100%, petition to raise standards. Some public schools are required to have individual education plans or IEP with necessary resources for speech and cluster groups. The McKinney-Vento Act gives homeless students special services and resources like transportation, textbooks etc. Some public schools coordinate to create tool/apps that information families details of their child's school bus drivers location and information. If schools are failing, it's upon the heads of the communities and leadership supporting the school system who are to blame. Go out, use democracy, and voice your change, based on your specific community's needs.
@@Techlax43 Power to the parents?? Power to the people?? Democracy?? Democrats can't stand any of that.... just look at all the rage and teeth gnashing it's causing them. Just laugh.😁
This has already been happening on a small scale. There is no money for free educational media and schools often can’t afford anything extra. I ran a channel making videos about history for kids and it’s impossible to find without a lot of small donors or an oil Barron.
i like the Finnish method of zero private schools. everyone is in the same boat, it builds community and empathy. edit- i got mixed up between sweden and finland. more info: “Finland has the best education in the world and private education is prohibited, all education from kindergarten to university is PUBLIC”
This is something I'm on high alert for. Turning Point already has a foothold in a couple of the nearby public high schools. If PragerU starts popping up, they district will have a fight on their hands
This was something that was being considered in Utah over a decade ago. Luckily the measure failed but I have a feeling that the legislators here are going to try it again at some point.
If I ran an upscale private school and was interested in maximizing income for my school, and the state passed a voucher program giving every student a $7200 voucher, the first thing I would do would be to raise tuition by $7200. After all, the parents sending their kids to my school could already afford the tuition we were charging, so they don't need the discount. We might as well get it. If, however, I were running a Christian parochial school, and the tuition was quite a bit lower, I wouldn't raise the tuition the whole $7200; I'd carefully look at how much I could raise tuition to take advantage of the fact that the state was now funding my school directly (not indirectly, directly - it's a voucher; the family never has access to the money; they give the voucher to the institution of their choice and the state pays the money DIRECTLY to that institution) while still keeping attendance at optimal levels. Maybe I only raise tuition by $2000/yr. At first. I'd continue raising it bit by bit until I found a level of equilibrium. My point here is that voucher systems make private education more expensive, offsetting the benefit of "school choice".
i had an english teacher in high school (also taught college by the way) show us prageru videos and made us do assignments on them, and this was pre-covid...
A lot of religious private schools are in poor areas where minorities live but it's middle class parents dropping their kids off. Look at the demographics of the neighborhood around the schools and the demographics of the student body. Cut off funding for those schools that don't serve their neighborhood.
Imagine going to school and a right wing guy shows up to lecture you about how unimportant you and your needs are, because that's basically their whole ideology
"Today children were not going to tie our shoelaces so you can learn to pull yourself up by your bootstraps." "What do you mean that's physically impossible? sounds like some physics lib propaganda we'll fire the science teacher immediately "
I can't possibly the only person looking at the thumbnail wanting to seriously punch him. All of this should be found to be infuriating to reasonable people. Drop-outs "instructing" public school students via Prager U is complete buffoonery.
personally i’m not sure if homeschooling should be a thing except in cases of severe anxiety with a decent paper trail and therapists involved. the kid is getting socially isolated, is subject to increased parental control (and thus more likely to suffer abuse), is less likely to learn important topics (which allows conspiracy theories and hateful ideologies to persist), and will be less prepared for college and life in general. and private schools for the rich allows them to care less about the quality of schools for the rest of us, so i’m not sure that should be a thing either.
yeah. It's just not good. I got lucky and happened to go to one of the rare _genuinely good_ private religious (Catholic) schools. I had great teachers (who actually got paid less than public school teachers, like wtf lol), and I got a great education. But tbh it took me too long to realize that what I experienced isn't all that common. Personally, I don't think private schools should be a think either. Or homeschooling, unless it's an accommodation for an IEP or something like that (basically what you were talking about). As far as I'm concerned, education is literally the #1 most important issue facing this country.. if for no other reason than that it's a lot harder to fix things when your people are dumb as rocks. If this country was ever able to get the education thing right, I think we'd find that some of our other problems kinda just... sort themselves out as a natural consequence of having a more intelligent, knowledgeable populace. That'd be pretty sweet! At this point it seems pretty hopeless though :/
@@idontwantahandlethough yeah as they say, facts have a left wing bias. smarter people tend to understand policy better, it’s harder to lie to smarter people, etc. and college gets people out of small town bubbles and they interact with a more diverse group of people, which makes them less likely to support hateful policies.
Glad you guys covered this. I didn’t even know it was happening (granted I live in Australia). I went to a private Christian high school and I hated it. I ended up learning far more at home and at uni.
I’m torn tbh. My son attended a public charter middle school for very little tuition and fees. He got a great head start on HS, and was well supported and encouraged by teachers and staff. They had an emphasis on social justice and emotional literacy as well as strong academics. They participated fully in public school breakfast and lunch, and worked out a payment plan for tuition and fees.
Unfortunately, that's not at all the norm. The norm is that charters find ways to dump their lower-performing students on public schools before the window closes for which school they will count against for that year's standardized tests. The norm is also not the type of instruction and values you describe. And even if the school your son attended didn't dump their lower-performing students, they still benefited from the fact that the families who attended CHOSE the school and were thus much more motivated and involved in their children's educations than the median public school family (school choice pulls motivated, involved families out of public schools and into charters, so it's a double whammy for public schools) -- and yet politicians, supported by school choice advocates, will compare performance differences as if the comparison is apples-to-apples.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a Prager U ad pop up during this video! That and other conservative ads often pop up while I'm watching progressive videos!
@@MsTifalicious 😂😭 I love watching dumb people say the silliest, most asinine stuff and then act like they just said something super clever. Just _completely_ lacking in self-awareness (edit: just so you know, it would be significantly easier to point out the PragerU videos that _aren't_ propaganda. On the topic.. I don't think you quite understand what propaganda means..)
There is a benchmark unfortunately. In Sweden we have had a type of school voucher since the the 90s. It has been a disaster. Segregation is higher then ever. Especially if you have a kid with ADHD or autism. “Better schools” have richer parents that can pay for tutoring, and thus the school needs less teachers. It’s been proven that a fuckton of cash is moved inte private investment that owns the schools.
“Work, Keep Working, and then Keep Working Harder” sounds like a slogan a rich nepo baby says to his workers, and then dives into how hard it was forming a business with their family’s money. Working harder sometimes can get you nowhere. Like the saying goes, “Work smarter, not harder”.
A good move to subtly combat it and make then reveal themselves, make all schools have to accept the voucher as full payment. They'll trip all over themselves to find excuses why they don't want that
I'm 72 years old. Back when i was in 5th grade my parents pulled me out of our Catholic school because my father knew the school was doing their job in teaching me. I was enrolled in public shool and was moved back to the 4th grade in hope that i could catch up academically. It helped me enormously. I have never believed in this voucher system nor do i have any faith ir trust in charter schools as i have known of some that have closed without warning and out students collage hooes in jeopardy.
Maybe that money should have been invested into public education to make it better and of a higher quality. Public money being diverted into private enterprises is always about grifting public money for an overpriced and substandard product.
Having Tim Pool teach a lesson in schools would be like getting lessons from Rush Limbaugh if this were back in my time. Yeah, that's pretty fucking unsettling...
There was a rant by Orwell in one of his books, I don’t remember which one “a clergyman’s daughter” I think, but I’m not sure. Well in that rant he complains about privat schools for the lower classes and praises public education. Because back then private schools for the lower classes didn’t teach anything. They literally taught the children to memorize math formulas without any context and understanding. And when the equally uneducated parents ask their kids what they learned, the kids, just recited some formula. But the kids didn’t understand what they were taught to repeat. It literally was like teaching kids E=Mc2 without the kids knowing what E,=,M,c or squared even mean. It was just a scheme to trick parents into thinking their kids learned something. We will go back to this if this private schooling shit isn’t stopped. Because when the sole Motivation is profit in a free market, tricking parents will always be easier then actually teaching kids.
I'm from Iowa and I'm not surprised that we only have half a dozen nonreligious private schools. We simply don't have the educational options and it really sucks.
I knew a teacher friend who took off a year to teach at a private school. First she had to take a 50% pay cut. She ended up in a place where there was no library. The only reference books was a set of encyclopedias that was 20 years old and incomplete. Worst of all the discipline problems in the private school were just as bad as a public school. She said it was an awful experience.
I’m stationed in Arizona. My daughter has a lot of medical disabilities so we applied for the ESA here. Due to her disabilities, she qualified for the maximum amount and now we’re able to get her into the Autism Academy rather than leaving her in a normal Special Education Class in the school district we were in. Can’t really describe how happy we are that she’s going to get the opportunity to have an actual rich and fulfilling experience in school now. And it’s not a religious school. I’m not sure if this is the program they’re talking about, but if so… it’s primarily focused on kids with specific needs and they have to qualify for the funding by applying through the state. Also, we’re a military family so I’m not sure what Sam is talking about that the program is subsidizing rich people. The other families we saw when we toured the school didn’t appear to be affluent to us either. We worked for years to get the public schools she was in to actually meet the requirements in her IEP with nonstop disappointing and downright frustrating results. This school is specialized for kids like my daughter and we would never have been able to afford the tuition without the state’s ESA program. Just my .02.
So, to explain means testing and subsidizing. Subsidizing should be for everyone regardless of income, why? Means testing, or putting arbitrary requirements on social programs, cost more money due to beaurocracy and people to do that work than you save by not giving everyone the wellfare and its mainly used to keep poor people in shit cause. So subsidizing the rich in that sort of programs, which is for everyone and the only qualification that exists is if the person has a inparement that justifies the extra help for the sake of resource focus(the additional means testing is useless btw, your daughter shouldve qualify for full assistance by simply qualifying, not because of the degree of imparament). So this explains that rich being subsidize part, the proof to this is extensive, if you want to read it I can answer back with sources after I gather them. This isnt it though. Its using tax payer money to only aubsidize rich people by reducing resources to the broad spectrum of people, furthering the inequality gap. Basically you will subsidize charter, religious and private schools in the broad spectrum, reducing even more resources from public schools which itself have a stupid financing method by property tax, which means poor neighbornhoods have poor public schools which perpetuates the cycle of poverty. Meanwhile the yax money goes to private schools which only middle to high income familiws have access to, furthermore theze are badly managed charter schools aimed to maximize profits which gives them about 5 years longevity, or religious school which have a subpar education even for medium to high income families due to the lack of a federal mandate shared curriculum. So the result is furthering the inequality act while making poorer (and more racist/reactionary) education for this style of subdizing. That is the difference between your daughter's situation and this.
You are talking past the point with an anecdotal Basically a strawman argument A straw man fallacy is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
This is also the flaw with universal basic income. places like landlords will just jack up their prices in order to suck up more money from the UBI while leaving renters in the same position they were in before.
@@Uncanny_Mountain It’s not a slippery slope when we have a literal 1:1 example here of private schools cranking up their tuition fees in response to the universal voucher program.
At what point will out-of-state universities and further education refuse to accept qualifications from Florida based schools due to the poor standard of their curriculum?
"I can't talk, Bible class in 2 minutes." "That's nice! What chapters are you reading in the Bible today?" "Huh? We don't read the Bible in that class. We go to pray and cry."
Once this program started in AZ, a Charter School went up on every corner. It's crippling education in every way here. Low income areas and educators themselves taking the brunt of the issue.
I went to a mainstream Orthodox Jewish religious school. The class average on all the NYS Regents exams was over an 80 with most people getting over a 90. I got in the 99th percentile on the SAT with zero tutoring or parental help, I just studied from what I we had learned in school. Then I went to study physics in one of the best universities in the world. Our teacher for American history was a black man who's wife happened to be a police officer. We learnt about the civil right movement and landmark Supreme Court cases from him. We also read the articles in the NY Times in class a few times a week and learnt about the stock market, S&P, Dow, Bitcoin, etc. We read as a class Hamlet, Macbeth, and Julius Ceasar as well as many other books.
How about this... we start passing laws that Employer's are Alowed to require potential Employees from these Religious schools pass a skill test or pass their GED for employment?
Companies outside the US will not hire people who are out of touch with reality and have very basic, or less than very basic knowledge on everything.. is that the republican goal too..?
So what if money goes to religious private schools if thats where the PARENTS want the kids to go? It should always be the parents choice, rather than our current system where most kids are forced to go to a school of the governments choice, run by the government, pushing the government's current dominant parties agenda on the kids, and failing to educate them with what they need to understa d thier history and prepare for thier future.
BTW it's not just schools. Even detox/rehab programs are usually the same way and even in solid blue states. Seriously, scripture is everywhere on the walls and even full chapels, always Christian, are rampant. Sometimes scripture reading is even a requirement for completion of the program. TV channels are limited to news channels which often have gospel hours, telemundo, and straight gospel channels. It's insane.
If I can get $7200 for my daughter’s private school I would love it. Pulled her out of Public last year and she is doing so much better. My public school is too overcrowded and there is no extracurricular activities.
That's the trap, of course. They refused to fund public schools to begin with and now they're making us complicit in further defunding them. I have friends with kids in Cle who have no choice, the only decent schools are tax siphons.
The state should be sued for this program for penalizing the tax payers who aren't in this program. What's that the concervative argument against the student debt forgiveness for low income people?
When I was a kid trashcans were metal cans with metal lids. A man had to manually dump the contents into the back of the garbage truck. Somebody looked at that and thought "there must be a better way".
The issue around public education is draining funds from low income areas to fund charter schools that last maybe 5 years, leaving the public schools unable to support its students.
The 80's had grade inflation in the suburbs. The 50+ RW W Whiners today had their own "Affirmative Action". Even today, great colleges still have basic writing classes, weeded out in freshman week skills testing.
@java4653 What? 80's, 90's, and 2000's all had different issues with college admissions.
Great.. many more “Florida men” are gonna be doin Florida man 💩 in the future..
That's what Republikkkans were trying to do
I'm all for vouchers, so long as a school that receives one accepts it as payment in full.
PUBLIC money should NEVER be used for private or religious education. If you want to be a private school then you're a PRIVATE SCHOOL
Churches don’t pay taxes because that’s bad.. but also churches can run private schools that get tax dollars.. and people say this shit with a straight face.
Agreed. But that’s why they named them “Charter Schools.” It is simply a branding - a way to not advertise the fact that tax moneys are being used for parochial schools.
And they are always asking for more money.
Big disagree-at least on the private side. When I was ten years old, I was bullied out of the public school system. My mother had to sue the local system to get me into a publicly-funded private school that was made for special needs kids.
We *need* private schools because the public school system simply can’t be a “one-size-fits-all” pedagogy.
Edit: It’s amazing how some people claim to care about education and kids being safe and then refuse to even consider practical alternatives or exceptions in order to remain ideologically pure. This is the same problem as right wing parents dictating what is allowed to be taught but from the opposite side! Another great example of why educational policy needs to be left in the hands of professionals, not ideologues.
@@warlordofbritanniadisagree. Public money should be withheld from private schools.
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Ah, so just let the special needs kids die, then? Thanks for the input Ebenezer…
Rich or middle class can get into private schools. The point is to defund low income areas so they aren't educated.
Yup, gatekeeping education and making education whatever fascist theocratic nonsense they want. They so desperately want to keep fueling the racist systems that give them all the power, privilege, and security in society while spitting on and kicking down on everyone else.
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Well look at the boeberts and the MTG types. There are a lot of educated politicians, who arguably are more evil for doing this shit, but they know that the deeply ignorant, superstitious, and indoctrinated in American mythology, are incredibly easy to manipulate and make vote how you want them too. It's the way you get people to vote against their own interest..like voting for removing the regulations that bring a train crashing into your town.....
Sad but true
That's the point. Though the rich aren't all that smart (see: Elon Musk). It's quite likely their kids will end up with much worse education too. It'll just look nicer and cost more and have better security.
We really don't talk enough about the fact that public schools are funded by local property taxes, so that children raised in poorer neighborhoods are condemned to a sub-standard education.
Its not sub standard because teachers for the most part care and try and do a good job... but dude they are being squrezed and theres no resources.
Freaking lab rquipment being paid out of pocket by the science teachers or the inventory manager responsible
With the outcome being standardised testing but not standardised resources. Which is what is really being assessed.
Seems like austerity bullshit. The entire country benefits from having an educated population, so the entire country should pay for it. The only people who don't benefit is people who want to exploit others, and to them I say too bad you'll have to stick to using your own kids for that.
@merulaamethyst2248they do that in America too
This!!
Universities in the rest of the country need to step in and outright tell florida if they do this, their students will be ineligible for higher education.
I mean, it's possible that's what the goal was to begin with
Half of them are legacy admissions and the other rest are rich afirmative action. Besides they will always have the University of Miami
@@Kishuy Come again about UM?
@@stacyalderman2352yeah, I know UM’s meteorology program is well respected.
@@stacyalderman2352 oh im not saying um is bad or anything, on the contrary. What im saying is that i highly doubt um will go against desantis. Half the board dines and donates/gets money from the man
It's crazy how much damage DeSantis has been able to do in such a short time.
Careful there, he might just use that as a quote in one of his ads...
He seems to be ok with "forged in hell".
Destroying a state in real time for needledickory.
Today's fascism was BUILT on islamaphobia and the fake war of terror, which btw never concluded, just disappeared during Covid. No terrorist attacks under Trump, but that's just coincidence
_"If you're not with us, you're with the Terrorists"_ George Bush Jr 2001
It was all predictable, I know cos I predicted it, over 20 years ago
76% of Democrats agreed with that war, none of you can explain why
He's finishing the job of his Republicans predecessors.
Prager U in schools? This cannot be allowed.
Already is and has been for a few years now. It's so insane and damaging.
But drag queens reading to kids is a problem. 🤨
@@philscott4usayou have my condolences. Only time I watch PU is when it is being debunked by other creators.
White Christian Nationalism is the agenda.
I've read about prager propaganda being used in Michigan and New Hampshire classrooms as well.
Absolutely! I've been screaming to anyone who would listen for years now that the most important aspect of any democracy is a high quality, well-funded, non-religious, public education system.
^
This destruction of our schools was not an accident. During the Reagan years we had the largest middle class in our history. This was making the 1%ers nervous as they were worried the strong middle class would take over the country and make laws to benefit them instead of the laws benefiting the very wealthy. So a planned several pronged approach was implemented and one prong was the destruction of our educational system to knock out the middle class.
Back in the 30's and 40's educators from France came for several months to study Detroit schools and why they were so successful and the kids in that city system were highly educated. My grandmother was a principal of a school in Detroit in those days and she was one of the educators working with the French for those months.
But transgenderism is a religion in itself. And we all know that's what is being taught at public schools.
@@georgia777look at the difference in Detroit from them to now. What's the demographics off the classroom?
THAT'S why education is failing. When blacks just don't want to learn, they won't. That's not our problem
@@MsTifalicious
You look like a man.
Love Sam’s take but he misses one point about a goal about the Devos plan. Yes, they would not mind if tax $ went to parochial schools but they also want that $ flowing into corporate pockets through charters. It is one of the greatest grifter capitalist opportunities of this century.
Absolutely right! Non-accredited schools would pop up all over, with 'grads' that can't read or write, while the grifters just cash the check.
Exactly! It's a huge giveaway of public funds to corporate billionaires. And accomplishes the other goals of defunding public schools, especially in low income areas. And they get to create a captured audience of little ultraconservatives who will eventually vote and donate in lockstep with these loons. Democrats should be screaming bloody murder about this.
There is also the point of trying to destroy the largest of the few remaining unions, in the US ... the teachers' union.
THIS. At the end of the day all of this is about making more money
@@TheHuxleyAgnostic no teachers union? If that happened it's time to 🥳🥳🥂🥂
If you want to pay for your kid to go to the private school of your choice, great.
But you can't have my tax dollars to pay for it.
Evidently they can. They're using my tax dollars to distribute vouchers in my state. The public schools in my area need all the funding they can get but Sarah Huckabee Sanders knows she and her rich friends can't tap into that funding, directly. It's a way to starve out public schools and divert the funding into the pockets of the rich Republicans who own the private schools.
Amen
@@wholewheatkittyfeet9353they are vastly outnumbered. Their is no justification for using tax $ to pay for rich kids to go to private school
@@wholewheatkittyfeet9353 It's designated for the good of the public. Public education benefits everyone in society and this is the equivalent to using city or county taxes to pave your own driveway.
@@wholewheatkittyfeet9353 No, my tax dollars are paying for other people's children to go to public schools. I'm saying you can't have mine to send them to your own preferred private schools that have no government oversight. Pay for it yourself.
All "school choice" really means is I'm a Conservative who wants to send my kids to a religious and/or private school where they won't teach subjects that I disagree with or feel uncomfortable about.
AND they want someone else to pay for it.
All "choice" ever means in US politics is the choice of rich people to do bad things to the rest of us. Once you understand that, the rhetoric falls flat and then you see it everywhere... and also the scale of the problem.
not for nothing if the tables were turned and conservatives were teaching creationism at school you would want school choice too
@@michaelthompson7217I like how you say that as if conservatives weren't already doing that I was in school once they actually stopped teaching creationism
so you’re saying school choice would have been also good then, glad we agree
It's the government's resposibility to educate the populace and as such MUST be funded adequately
Yes, that's what PUBLIC schools are for.
“To promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity” would seem to imply that!
Says who?
@@garysmokesmeat Society
@@TraumaQueen65 when? How? Where?
Prager U - A real university by the standards of Florida.
You know what is weird? Florida is actually very highly rated in education...I was shocked too.
@@kcolonelx6181 It's actually middle of the pack
@@francescomercanti7500 U.S. News ranks them #14 in K-12 and #1 in higher ed.
@@kcolonelx6181that's not saying a lot considering how stupid most people here are lol
Uhhhhhh !
This was a satirical joke what like 3 years ago? That Prager frickin U would be made part of school curricula. Wtf is going on?!!! I swear the US has completely lost the plot.
Send in the clowns... Oh, wait; they're already here.
Today's fascism was BUILT on islamaphobia and the fake war of terror, which btw never concluded, just disappeared during Covid. No terrorist attacks under Trump, but that's just coincidence
_"If you're not with us, you're with the Terrorists"_ George Bush Jr 2001
It was all predictable, I know cos I predicted it, over 20 years ago
76% of Democrats agreed with that war, none of you can explain why
Not sure we ever had the plot.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders is doing this right now in Arkansas. It’s sickening.
Huckabilly
Don't move to a red state....we find your support for hardcore pornography in K-3rd and using public schools to mutilate kids behind their parents backs just as sickening.
So we no longer live in a blue state with that kind of low grade "education".
Isn't it odd how these right-wing pundits whose job is to talk in a studio tell everybody else about hard work and the need for a strong work ethic.
Another fun fact about private schools is that they can deny admission to anyone for whatever reason. Also kickout any student for any reason. 🙏
Tim Pool: According to the mega-donors who fund my podcast, the solution to your misery under capitalism is WORK HARDER, SERF!! MORE TIME IN THE MINES!!!!
Sage advice from the 8th grade dropout.
Everyone says 8th year drop-out, yet several sources on the web say Timmy's last year completed was six.... including wiki
@@edwardkantowicz4707He's including watching PragerU
@@demoninveins Is that right?! 🧐😂 They must be bestowing honorary HSEs at Prager.
The solution to Tim Pool and his mega-donors is to turn them into fertilizer.
Florida is a hellscape.
What did hellscapes ever do to deserve the comparison. Apologize to hellscapes at once.
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
😂😂😂😂
Where are the taxpayers on this issue? Won't their taxes go up?
And let's apply the same logic that people are using for college loan forgiveness: my parents had to pay out-of-pocket to send me to Catholic School, and now they're just going to give it away to everybody?
Oh and by the way, the Catholic school was a vastly inferior education to the public school. We spent 45 minutes a day on religion when we could have been studying sing useful like science. We didn't get science until ninth grade and it was a lame course called "survey of science". (Of course, 9th grade is the year that you usually teach biology so they skirted by that one.)
And the public school starts a foreign language in 7th grade instead of 9th.
Plus, I always felt that we got the bottom-of-the-barrel lay teachers because they couldn't get hired in the public school, which paid more. And the nuns were just insane and abusive.
I happily sent my son to public school and he got a superior education. He went on to graduate summa cumlaude in computer science from Drexel and then go on for a PhD in Material Science.
People have got to start speaking out about the horrible, crappy education they got in a religious school.
As an Agnostic/Atheist, not happy about funding Catholic schools while some of their Bishops call us demons or devils.
Doesn't shock me. All of this makes sense since the early 80's.
Also. Why we need a separate church and state.
Are you asking why we need a separate church and state?
So separate one doesnt exist.
I will never forget the ladies luncheon I was dragged to in the early '80s in Detroit, Michigan, with Betsy DeVos as speaker. I was familiar with her and her views and had met her a handful of times.
During the speech I assumed the vast majority were supportive of her and her plans as she spoke very openly on her goals. This voucher dream of hers was struggling so according to her they changed the focus to poor, minority kids getting a chance at a better school but then saying as she was also laughing, this will never happen but we need to stress this so we (meaning all of us upper middle class white women) can finally get a break on our private school costs.
She then at one point in the speech asked the women present who really wants to spend more on educated house cleaners?
DeVos was the deciding focus to change how schooling was organized in Michigan. She got through the system that there would be ZERO oversight on these charter schools; no accountability, no financial investigations, no testing results, no proof after the school gets the money that they are really a school.
Michigan became known as the Wild West of Charter Schools...and now it's spreading throughout the country.
As an endnote, I have never been a conservative and as I get older I get more liberal but my friend who dragged me (and paid my fee as a lure to attend this function) was dating DeVos' brother at the time, Eric Prince. Yes, that Eric Prince of Blackwater infamy.
On another side note it must be remember that DeVos doesn't even believe public schools should exist. In her words (paraphrased) if you can't afford to privately educate your kids or homeschool them then they can remain uneducated and provide the services for the upper class. An uneducated class is a class that won't fight for better wages or better working conditions.
Does anyone else who watches Progressive UA-cam channel videos keep getting bombarded by PragerU, Turning Point USA, & Daily Wire video ads before the actual video begins?
Nope, but I use an adblocker ;)
Adblocker too
Yea, I get PragerU ads all the time
I think it's the title of the video, they share similarities between right wing content in what they talk about. If so, obviously the algorithm isn't so sophisticated that it can't tell when it's advertising political content to polar opposite content that just happens to share the same underlying stories or topics. It's really frustrating, all they care about us ad money, yet these incompetent corporations continue to shovel ads at me for stuff I already have or ads that any real *person* would understand I'm not interested in. Another theory, they're evil and just want to torment leftys with cringy and horrible ads that promote fascism...
They buy adverisement. We know they can afford it. For a while it used to be Abby Shapiro ads.
Prager University should never be a thing.
Maybe. But also neither should the ideas a lot of the teachers are giving the students. Maybe one day we can get back to math and reading and such.
@@deadgolfer6345wow, you clearly have no idea what’s going on
@@deadgolfer6345 do... do you think that we aren't teaching math or reading?
Yea.... how dare non-communist try to teach something other than "WHITE MAN BAD!!! USA BAD!!!! CUT YOUR JUNK OFF!!!!" like the lunatics on the left.
It's a university in the same way Fox News is news
Not at all
I am sick and tired that my tax money goes to private schools instead of a public schools!!!
If you want your child go to a private school then YOU pay for it! Quit taking MY tax payer money to pay for your kid!
No AP African American studies but Uncle Dennis' thoughts on Adam & Eve, all good.
Worse, florida is now forced to teach slavery as having a "good" side and a bad side.
Ah yes, when snakes could talk.😂
Seriously ? Education wasn't a big enough joke in this country already ?
It's like treating withdrawal with the drug the patient is addicted to.
@@theobserver9131I know that this is a little off topic, but that's not a great analogy,in severe cases of alcoholism people can die from withdrawal, the best way to avoid death is reducing intake.
Yea that "accredited" education the left is on here crying about......has been total dog shit for years. Florida is actually doing something about it and they're big mad. Probably scared that some kids who aren't crippled, black and trans might be allowed to achieve.
This country is a joke at this point. Look no further then Mitch McConnell an actual dinosaur/turtle and one of the most powerful politicians in the country literally stroking out while delivering a statement and having to be helped/escorted out. Then we have Joe Brandon, a man that 99% of people who voted for him did so reluctantly and who also belongs in a nursing home. No one wants him but unless he drops dead in the next year, which isn't impossible he will likely again be the only/least shitty choice.
As bad as public school can be, it is generally better than the alternatives. Most private schools are religious indoctrination centers, and people who homeschool their kids typically do so for that same reason. Not always, but most of the time.
No, private schools and home schooled kids overwhelming do better than government schooled-kids
its the same plan always:
1. get voted to run what you hate
2. break it
3. siphon government money you pretend to hate into private hands
4. "See, government doesn't work!"
5. Run on a vague government bad platform
6. Go back to 3
As someone who was raised by religious parents who homeschooled me in Utah. I wish that I was not homeschooled. The most I learned on a subject was when I went part time to public school and took chemistry. I was a good enough student that when I got my GED I got full marks in that subject.
Many of the subjects that my mom was "teaching" me was just giving me a book to work through by myself and self report on back to her
Homeschooled kids overwhelmingly outperform public school kids.
@@garysmokesmeatI would have to see that data because I have met a number of homeschooled kids in my day. Intelligence is not a word I often use with them.
That’s funny, I was about to say the same thing about public schooled kids.
@@MW66VB a 2 second google search shows that homeschool kids have a 67% graduation rate vs 57% for public schools kids. And GOOD GOD, I didn’t realize it was that low. That is pathetic.
@@MW66VB oh yeah, and private schools are at 96%. Private enterprise is superior to government services. Including education.
School choice? Actively choosing against high standard curriculum, against mandated special accommodation standards, against target subsides that directly support impoverished students. Fund public education, stop voucher programs!!!
Even if those problems didn't exist. School vouchers are just a direct transfer of taxpayer dollars to the rich who own private schools. I always am against taxpayer money making rich people even richer.
No they employed the high standard curriculum, communism and explicit porn =/= high standards in education, contrary to "progressive" beliefs.
Yes the republicans gave the people a choice and cut back on wealth redistribution... letting people keep more of what's rightfully theirs, as they were democratically elected to do. Democracy.... suck it loser.
@@Techlax43 Constantly cutting funding over and over for the past 50 years hasn't helped things at all.
@@Techlax43 Let's have that talk, 100%, petition to raise standards. Some public schools are required to have individual education plans or IEP with necessary resources for speech and cluster groups. The McKinney-Vento Act gives homeless students special services and resources like transportation, textbooks etc. Some public schools coordinate to create tool/apps that information families details of their child's school bus drivers location and information. If schools are failing, it's upon the heads of the communities and leadership supporting the school system who are to blame. Go out, use democracy, and voice your change, based on your specific community's needs.
@@Techlax43 Power to the parents?? Power to the people?? Democracy?? Democrats can't stand any of that.... just look at all the rage and teeth gnashing it's causing them. Just laugh.😁
Prager university if that's not indoctrination I don't know what is
Grooming*
This has already been happening on a small scale. There is no money for free educational media and schools often can’t afford anything extra. I ran a channel making videos about history for kids and it’s impossible to find without a lot of small donors or an oil Barron.
i like the Finnish method of zero private schools. everyone is in the same boat, it builds community and empathy.
edit- i got mixed up between sweden and finland. more info: “Finland has the best education in the world and private education is prohibited, all education from kindergarten to university is PUBLIC”
I don't know what exactly an American private school entails but public funds for privately owned schools IS the Swedish method.
That sounds awful. Special needs kids must go through hell.
@@warlordofbritanniaWhat do you mean?
@@soulknife20
Forcing neurodivergent kids to have the same education as neurotypical one’s is a recipe for disaster
@@warlordofbritannia I don't think we call them "special kids" anymore lol
OF COURSE Florida did. How else can you ensure your state to remain red for generations to come
They already banned teaching the Holocaust in state colleges, this can’t be surprising
Logically any reasonable person would be
This is something I'm on high alert for. Turning Point already has a foothold in a couple of the nearby public high schools. If PragerU starts popping up, they district will have a fight on their hands
Prager U is Groomer U .
This was something that was being considered in Utah over a decade ago. Luckily the measure failed but I have a feeling that the legislators here are going to try it again at some point.
Probably because there was a close split on which religion would get all the bennies. Much easier where it's 99% vahnjellculs.
Utah is what happens when you don’t allow people their morning coffee
If I ran an upscale private school and was interested in maximizing income for my school, and the state passed a voucher program giving every student a $7200 voucher, the first thing I would do would be to raise tuition by $7200. After all, the parents sending their kids to my school could already afford the tuition we were charging, so they don't need the discount. We might as well get it.
If, however, I were running a Christian parochial school, and the tuition was quite a bit lower, I wouldn't raise the tuition the whole $7200; I'd carefully look at how much I could raise tuition to take advantage of the fact that the state was now funding my school directly (not indirectly, directly - it's a voucher; the family never has access to the money; they give the voucher to the institution of their choice and the state pays the money DIRECTLY to that institution) while still keeping attendance at optimal levels. Maybe I only raise tuition by $2000/yr. At first. I'd continue raising it bit by bit until I found a level of equilibrium.
My point here is that voucher systems make private education more expensive, offsetting the benefit of "school choice".
In other words: what easy money did to college tuition.
@@avishevin1976bingo
i had an english teacher in high school (also taught college by the way) show us prageru videos and made us do assignments on them, and this was pre-covid...
Only useful if the assignment is why the videos are bad and how many mistruths they can tell in 4 minutes
As in why they were so wrong I hope... oh god
A lot of religious private schools are in poor areas where minorities live but it's middle class parents dropping their kids off.
Look at the demographics of the neighborhood around the schools and the demographics of the student body. Cut off funding for those schools that don't serve their neighborhood.
Imagine going to school and a right wing guy shows up to lecture you about how unimportant you and your needs are, because that's basically their whole ideology
Good enough. But the teachers give them silly ideas as well.
Exactly
"Today children were not going to tie our shoelaces so you can learn to pull yourself up by your bootstraps."
"What do you mean that's physically impossible? sounds like some physics lib propaganda we'll fire the science teacher immediately "
This is why I had to leave working in public education. It is a sinking ship. I could no longer be in the ship as it went down.
America will not last without an education system
Imagine you are in high school watching a video of Tim Pool, a guy who dropped out of eighth grade, on how to be a success.
I can't possibly the only person looking at the thumbnail wanting to seriously punch him. All of this should be found to be infuriating to reasonable people. Drop-outs "instructing" public school students via Prager U is complete buffoonery.
Sex Ed with Andrew Tate, Science with Joe Rogan, History with Graham Hancock and Social Science with Jordan Peterson
@@Uncanny_Mountain U forgot sex ed with Matt Walsh and Michael Know-less.
@@Uncanny_Mountain😂😂😂
@@Uncanny_Mountain Are u trying to send the poor children to a mental institution?
Tim Pool the fool has ideas for their high school curriculum.
personally i’m not sure if homeschooling should be a thing except in cases of severe anxiety with a decent paper trail and therapists involved. the kid is getting socially isolated, is subject to increased parental control (and thus more likely to suffer abuse), is less likely to learn important topics (which allows conspiracy theories and hateful ideologies to persist), and will be less prepared for college and life in general. and private schools for the rich allows them to care less about the quality of schools for the rest of us, so i’m not sure that should be a thing either.
yeah. It's just not good. I got lucky and happened to go to one of the rare _genuinely good_ private religious (Catholic) schools. I had great teachers (who actually got paid less than public school teachers, like wtf lol), and I got a great education. But tbh it took me too long to realize that what I experienced isn't all that common.
Personally, I don't think private schools should be a think either. Or homeschooling, unless it's an accommodation for an IEP or something like that (basically what you were talking about). As far as I'm concerned, education is literally the #1 most important issue facing this country.. if for no other reason than that it's a lot harder to fix things when your people are dumb as rocks. If this country was ever able to get the education thing right, I think we'd find that some of our other problems kinda just... sort themselves out as a natural consequence of having a more intelligent, knowledgeable populace. That'd be pretty sweet! At this point it seems pretty hopeless though :/
@@idontwantahandlethough yeah as they say, facts have a left wing bias. smarter people tend to understand policy better, it’s harder to lie to smarter people, etc. and college gets people out of small town bubbles and they interact with a more diverse group of people, which makes them less likely to support hateful policies.
Glad you guys covered this. I didn’t even know it was happening (granted I live in Australia). I went to a private Christian high school and I hated it. I ended up learning far more at home and at uni.
Supreme court recently ruled that we can discriminate against religious schools based on religious obligations. Remember that
Rigged Catholic Supreme Court*
Betsy devos is a Christian dominionist
Why does UA-cam force-feed me incessant ads for Turning Point USA? I've said to stop showing me them for months, I still get them... It's ridiculous
Betsy's goal is to raise a generation of John Doyles and Kaitlin Bennetts.
I’m torn tbh. My son attended a public charter middle school for very little tuition and fees. He got a great head start on HS, and was well supported and encouraged by teachers and staff. They had an emphasis on social justice and emotional literacy as well as strong academics. They participated fully in public school breakfast and lunch, and worked out a payment plan for tuition and fees.
Unfortunately, that's not at all the norm.
The norm is that charters find ways to dump their lower-performing students on public schools before the window closes for which school they will count against for that year's standardized tests. The norm is also not the type of instruction and values you describe.
And even if the school your son attended didn't dump their lower-performing students, they still benefited from the fact that the families who attended CHOSE the school and were thus much more motivated and involved in their children's educations than the median public school family (school choice pulls motivated, involved families out of public schools and into charters, so it's a double whammy for public schools) -- and yet politicians, supported by school choice advocates, will compare performance differences as if the comparison is apples-to-apples.
I am so sorry about what is happening to your country.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a Prager U ad pop up during this video! That and other conservative ads often pop up while I'm watching progressive videos!
No school vouchers should ever be allowed.
We need national education curriculum standards. prager propaganda doesn’t belong in government-funded education.
Link a single video Prager-U did that was propaganda. Just one.
Oh, you can't?
Didn't think so.
@@MsTifalicious 😂😭 I love watching dumb people say the silliest, most asinine stuff and then act like they just said something super clever.
Just _completely_ lacking in self-awareness
(edit: just so you know, it would be significantly easier to point out the PragerU videos that _aren't_ propaganda. On the topic.. I don't think you quite understand what propaganda means..)
@@MsTifaliciousall of them. Every single one
There is a benchmark unfortunately. In Sweden we have had a type of school voucher since the the 90s.
It has been a disaster. Segregation is higher then ever. Especially if you have a kid with ADHD or autism. “Better schools” have richer parents that can pay for tutoring, and thus the school needs less teachers. It’s been proven that a fuckton of cash is moved inte private investment that owns the schools.
This is a real bummer
“Work, Keep Working, and then Keep Working Harder” sounds like a slogan a rich nepo baby says to his workers, and then dives into how hard it was forming a business with their family’s money.
Working harder sometimes can get you nowhere. Like the saying goes, “Work smarter, not harder”.
Because their ethics are derived from the Old Testament: shame, guilt and suffering.
How much did that cost Florida taxpayers? You know money changed hands.
The voucher system proposed by Betsy DeVoss is implemented in Sweden and it has entailed large scale dragning of the public school system.
We need lawsuits. This is inferior education. We need a federal standard.
inferior because it doesn't teach kids that everyone and everything is racist and there is literally hundreds of billions of genders 😊
A good move to subtly combat it and make then reveal themselves, make all schools have to accept the voucher as full payment. They'll trip all over themselves to find excuses why they don't want that
I'm 72 years old. Back when i was in 5th grade my parents pulled me out of our Catholic school because my father knew the school was doing their job in teaching me. I was enrolled in public shool and was moved back to the 4th grade in hope that i could catch up academically. It helped me enormously. I have never believed in this voucher system nor do i have any faith ir trust in charter schools as i have known of some that have closed without warning and out students collage hooes in jeopardy.
Maybe that money should have been invested into public education to make it better and of a higher quality. Public money being diverted into private enterprises is always about grifting public money for an overpriced and substandard product.
School choice is needed
This isn’t school choice, this is just rightoid propaganda being forced on kids.
So glad the writer's strike is not affecting (effecting?) The Majority Report!
affecting
@@deathdealer312Remember the raven!
R-Affect-Verb-Effect-Noun
So basically Florida students will be learning stuff that will have no value outside of Florida.
We need to bring Sherman back from the dead and send him down to Florida with an army.
What's with non religious wealthy people wanting the lower classes to be religious?
Tax mega churches and use that money
for education. Now, that will be something
even Jesus will agreed.
Having Tim Pool teach a lesson in schools would be like getting lessons from Rush Limbaugh if this were back in my time. Yeah, that's pretty fucking unsettling...
There was a rant by Orwell in one of his books, I don’t remember which one “a clergyman’s daughter” I think, but I’m not sure.
Well in that rant he complains about privat schools for the lower classes and praises public education.
Because back then private schools for the lower classes didn’t teach anything. They literally taught the children to memorize math formulas without any context and understanding. And when the equally uneducated parents ask their kids what they learned, the kids, just recited some formula.
But the kids didn’t understand what they were taught to repeat. It literally was like teaching kids E=Mc2 without the kids knowing what E,=,M,c or squared even mean.
It was just a scheme to trick parents into thinking their kids learned something.
We will go back to this if this private schooling shit isn’t stopped.
Because when the sole
Motivation is profit in a free market, tricking parents will always be easier then actually teaching kids.
I'm from Iowa and I'm not surprised that we only have half a dozen nonreligious private schools. We simply don't have the educational options and it really sucks.
Trump University curriculum next
I knew a teacher friend who took off a year to teach at a private school. First she had to take a 50% pay cut. She ended up in a place where there was no library. The only reference books was a set of encyclopedias that was 20 years old and incomplete. Worst of all the discipline problems in the private school were just as bad as a public school. She said it was an awful experience.
I’m stationed in Arizona. My daughter has a lot of medical disabilities so we applied for the ESA here. Due to her disabilities, she qualified for the maximum amount and now we’re able to get her into the Autism Academy rather than leaving her in a normal Special Education Class in the school district we were in. Can’t really describe how happy we are that she’s going to get the opportunity to have an actual rich and fulfilling experience in school now. And it’s not a religious school. I’m not sure if this is the program they’re talking about, but if so… it’s primarily focused on kids with specific needs and they have to qualify for the funding by applying through the state.
Also, we’re a military family so I’m not sure what Sam is talking about that the program is subsidizing rich people. The other families we saw when we toured the school didn’t appear to be affluent to us either.
We worked for years to get the public schools she was in to actually meet the requirements in her IEP with nonstop disappointing and downright frustrating results. This school is specialized for kids like my daughter and we would never have been able to afford the tuition without the state’s ESA program.
Just my .02.
So, to explain means testing and subsidizing.
Subsidizing should be for everyone regardless of income, why? Means testing, or putting arbitrary requirements on social programs, cost more money due to beaurocracy and people to do that work than you save by not giving everyone the wellfare and its mainly used to keep poor people in shit cause.
So subsidizing the rich in that sort of programs, which is for everyone and the only qualification that exists is if the person has a inparement that justifies the extra help for the sake of resource focus(the additional means testing is useless btw, your daughter shouldve qualify for full assistance by simply qualifying, not because of the degree of imparament).
So this explains that rich being subsidize part, the proof to this is extensive, if you want to read it I can answer back with sources after I gather them.
This isnt it though. Its using tax payer money to only aubsidize rich people by reducing resources to the broad spectrum of people, furthering the inequality gap. Basically you will subsidize charter, religious and private schools in the broad spectrum, reducing even more resources from public schools which itself have a stupid financing method by property tax, which means poor neighbornhoods have poor public schools which perpetuates the cycle of poverty. Meanwhile the yax money goes to private schools which only middle to high income familiws have access to, furthermore theze are badly managed charter schools aimed to maximize profits which gives them about 5 years longevity, or religious school which have a subpar education even for medium to high income families due to the lack of a federal mandate shared curriculum.
So the result is furthering the inequality act while making poorer (and more racist/reactionary) education for this style of subdizing.
That is the difference between your daughter's situation and this.
You are talking past the point with an anecdotal
Basically a strawman argument
A straw man fallacy is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
What on earth.....wow
This is also the flaw with universal basic income. places like landlords will just jack up their prices in order to suck up more money from the UBI while leaving renters in the same position they were in before.
Leaving us with the option of eating them (greedy landlords).
Without rent control and public housing policies, ubi is useless
Slippery slope fallacy
@@Uncanny_Mountain It’s not a slippery slope when we have a literal 1:1 example here of private schools cranking up their tuition fees in response to the universal voucher program.
@@samiamrg7 or like saying Carbon taxes will increase the price of Petrol
By your logic we should just bend over and let them #@£+ us up the @$$
At what point will out-of-state universities and further education refuse to accept qualifications from Florida based schools due to the poor standard of their curriculum?
I doubt most Americans can even understand what you're saying because they don't remember what was so good and PUBLIC about public education
"I can't talk, Bible class in 2 minutes."
"That's nice! What chapters are you reading in the Bible today?"
"Huh? We don't read the Bible in that class. We go to pray and cry."
Once this program started in AZ, a Charter School went up on every corner. It's crippling education in every way here. Low income areas and educators themselves taking the brunt of the issue.
I went to a mainstream Orthodox Jewish religious school. The class average on all the NYS Regents exams was over an 80 with most people getting over a 90. I got in the 99th percentile on the SAT with zero tutoring or parental help, I just studied from what I we had learned in school. Then I went to study physics in one of the best universities in the world. Our teacher for American history was a black man who's wife happened to be a police officer. We learnt about the civil right movement and landmark Supreme Court cases from him. We also read the articles in the NY Times in class a few times a week and learnt about the stock market, S&P, Dow, Bitcoin, etc. We read as a class Hamlet, Macbeth, and Julius Ceasar as well as many other books.
Adding Prager's position on anything is unbelievably stupid.
To teach it in schools? Beyond comprehension.
Thanks for bringing this out.
I’m so glad I left that country
Gotta love how I get nonstop PU and Hillsdale college ads watching these videos...
How about this... we start passing laws that Employer's are Alowed to require potential Employees from these Religious schools pass a skill test or pass their GED for employment?
Companies outside the US will not hire people who are out of touch with reality and have very basic, or less than very basic knowledge on everything.. is that the republican goal too..?
So what if money goes to religious private schools if thats where the PARENTS want the kids to go?
It should always be the parents choice, rather than our current system where most kids are forced to go to a school of the governments choice, run by the government, pushing the government's current dominant parties agenda on the kids, and failing to educate them with what they need to understa d thier history and prepare for thier future.
BTW it's not just schools. Even detox/rehab programs are usually the same way and even in solid blue states. Seriously, scripture is everywhere on the walls and even full chapels, always Christian, are rampant. Sometimes scripture reading is even a requirement for completion of the program. TV channels are limited to news channels which often have gospel hours, telemundo, and straight gospel channels. It's insane.
This is an outrage and criminal to give vouchers to private schools.
How do I call into the show??
I have SOO much to say on this topic.
The seas cannot rise fast enough.
If I can get $7200 for my daughter’s private school I would love it.
Pulled her out of Public last year and she is doing so much better. My public school is too overcrowded and there is no extracurricular activities.
That's the trap, of course. They refused to fund public schools to begin with and now they're making us complicit in further defunding them.
I have friends with kids in Cle who have no choice, the only decent schools are tax siphons.
The state should be sued for this program for penalizing the tax payers who aren't in this program.
What's that the concervative argument against the student debt forgiveness for low income people?
Their already doing this in Utah.. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Subjecting children to PragerU should be considered child abuse.
When I was a kid trashcans were metal cans with metal lids. A man had to manually dump the contents into the back of the garbage truck. Somebody looked at that and thought "there must be a better way".
It's the least DeFascist could do for Prager after basically lifting their slavery was good video.
lol Prager U in actual schools is mental.