Vintage Wagons | The Next Big Thing with Magnus Walker
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Magnus Walker explores the cars that could be future classics. In this episode, he focuses on old-school wagons. Why are they still sought after and even modified? Magnus meets with owners of a Mercedes-Benz W123 and Toyota Cressida to find out.
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This series should be called "Destroying niche markets"
Fact
So hagerty can increase the insurance quotes... 😬🤣
Well that’s called life, capitalism and enthousiasm I guess
Ikr the viper episode pissed me off lol
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He cant possibly destroy all of them. The more videos he makes, the less likely they are to blow up a market. Plus it usually takes more than one video to over inflate a cars price. There were tons of vids on the 944 before it blew up.
Your last statement is 100% truth. I'm always asked "what would be a good car to restore?" and I tell them "The car you absolutely love, because they all cost money in the end"
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The "S" gearbox programme stands for "Steigung" which means slope. The car will only shift into third gear.
not quite right, it stands for Standard. In W for Winter, it starts in second Gear, shifts earlyer and downshifts with lower rpm to prevent slippage. Thats all.
Ihr hättet mal ins W 123 Handbuch schauen sollen..geht auch übers Netz.
S= Steigung.
L= Last
You're welcome.
@@humanbeing1675 Oh, I was at W124. Sorry
I had one in the 90s. For months it would drive "normal" in D until one day at a light I stepped onto the gaspedal hard, doing a kick-down. Suddenly there was a super-short gear for just a moment before the normal gear which completely surprised me. There seems to be a very short gear for when the car is loaded to the brim going uphill.
So the every day drive would actually start in second gear and shift up.
@@PrimoStracciatella they always drive on the first gear but shifts to 2nd as soon as it gets moving and is never noticed. If the kickdown is actuated or Last is used it revs it out longer. (Last meaning load, as if the car is heavily loaded or hauling something)
The world desperately needs to kick out suv for wagons!
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One of my fav cars was my Volvo V70R. It could do 155mph with a sofa in the back. Wagons rock.
or make a suv wagon so you have plenty of options to decide
@@Humbulla93 well, you mean... an SUV?
With that said, sure, not an SUV-coupe, not a crossover, not an CUV either.... thanks buddy now I need to vomit but I'm wearing a fucking mask
The worst thing that bugs me is the lowered SUVs 😂😂
Rebecca made me smile when she said "The feeling of not being good at something and then learning to be satisfactory at it and being capable of taking care of myself." That was just simply awesome.
I only came to the comment section to post the timestamp for that and see if it hit anyone else equally as hard. That was indeed awesome.
The Volvo wagon should have been killing it in this video.
The Volvo Amazon 🤙
I have an 07 XC70, 2000 V70 XC SE, 2000 V70R, 98 V70R and a 99 V70 XC, this is a parts car. I am all waggoned out, lol... they are in various states of repair but some pretty cool projects.
Shhh
Got 2 940 Volvos . Love wagon life .
Got 2 also 1977 and 1989 245.
My mother had that exact Mercedes Wagon when we were growing up and we drove it ALL over the country in the '80s with my four other siblings. I can attest that the car is bullproof and built like a tank.
When I grew up in the 60's every family had a station wagon. The ultimate test of a station wagon was "Can you put a sheet of 4ft x 8ft plywood flat in the back and close the tailgate?" Bonus for 3 or more sheets of 3/4 inch.
My first car was a 69 Buick Skylark station wagon. We called it "The Golden Whale". Two sons learned to drive in it. I sold it with 210,000 miles on the original engine.
These pre-71 oil crisis American cars were built like tanks with heavy gauge steel, body and bumpers.
mine was the "Blue Whale"-- 1966 Pontiac Tempest Wagon , with a "Keep On Truckin' " decal on the back. only had AM so I added a cassette deck and a giant speaker in the back.
To attest to the heavy gauge steel pre ‘71. I had a 1968 Ford Country Squire. I let one of my best friends drive it for a couple of weeks while his car was being repaired. Even after replacing all of the front end parts, it didn’t have the same feel as a modern rack and pinion car, and when the right front tire dipped off the shoulder of a local road, he overcorrected into an oak tree that didn’t budge. Car was totaled. He was alright. Two little kids in the back were alright. Right front fender was not. I was distraught. I could t believe how much d,age was done. To see how strong the steel was, I took my 28 ounce Estwing framing hammer and made an extremely strong overhand swing on to the top of the fender. It barely left a divot, but did leave the waffle pattern in the steel. Strong stuff indeed. I think my friend and the kids played down how much that collision hurt them. It hurts me to this day twenty years later. I loved that car.
Wow, this was a lot deeper than I expected. I appreciated how they went further than the car. That was proper especially when it comes to wagons
When the host of the episode is both a young hipster AND an old man
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I'm not really a Japanese car guy, but Rebecca's wagon may have me second guessing that. I dig the wheel/tire mods on that car A LOT. That chandelier is kinda perfect also.
The chandelier is definitely on point especially when taking her apparent personality.
just look up kaido racers
The W123 300TD: perfect intersection of durability, fun, practicality, and class.
"And this is how you pump up the prices of regular, cheap cars.."
...this was never a 'regular, cheap' car, lol ...I'm the second owner of a 1985 300D saloon and I have the original invoice for $38,000! ...having said that it's been great value and I (rather my wife) treat it like a regular, cheap car! I can get x12 50lb sacks of horse feed in it, similarly bedding shavings, I can get x3 large bales of hay in the back ...yep it definitely wants to be a truck! Conversely, I maintain it myself and that's cheaper than getting a Mercedes mechanic to do it (even if he understands what he's looking at) - I should have got a shooting brake (wagon) but they attract a premium.
Wagons rock. Look at old racing videos and the support wagons with built motors, HD suspension, and wide wheels. Same size as a sedan but 2x as functional, and 2x as efficient as a bloated SUV. Good job Magnus!
Wagons have been the next best thing about 20 years now. Great episode.
Another great video! I hope Hagerty keeps them coming with Magnus at the helm! Magnus is so delightfully comfortable in his skin, he absolutely loves cars, and he enjoys people...a winning combo! Personally, I loved the chandelier and the pause to go fishing!
And who doesn’t love nostalgia...that’s what these old cars are all about! Keep on Magnus...you bring on the joy!
Man magnus just seems like a rad dude to grab a beer with
Here in Britain we would probably say a ‘top chap’
A 6-oz $40 beer brewed with eel testicles and natural taint yeast in a trendy (until next Monday afternoon) gastropub that opened five minutes ago, maybe.
I love wagons! My favorite is the Studebaker Lark Wagonaire! Volvo 240 wagons are a fantastic budget wagon to get into.
They're not a budget wagon anymore you can hardly find them
I have a E30 wagon and a E46 wagon, both manuals. I love them both.
Whenever I see these oldies but goldies on the road I can’t stop looking at them. Old BMW 3s are amazing still.
This is really a great lunch time series love it.
This is a really fun series. Thank you Magnus and Hagerty!
Ben put his mask on to drive away by himself. Stunning and brave
Ben's Toyota is on another level with 2 rear wipers 🌄
"Old wagons" are awsome! Especially 50s n 60s American wagons!
The w123 are from the 70's. They were built between 1976 and 1984, i think. I have a w123 240d. It is very slow, but a excelent cruiser. Built to last forever.
The estate was introduced at the Frankfurt International Motor Show (IAA) in 1977. There were officially released in between 1978 & 1986.
I'm a proud owner of LADA 2104 wagon, 36 years old.
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@@nickosbestplayereverexist it´s more like ai ai, like we portuguese say ,36 it´s an infant i jhave a mercedes van from the 60´s never had a problem either than the regular 10 to 10 years ,maintenace, one thing i agree they look horrible, also have the w115 van diesel it goes from 0 to 100km/hour or 60 miles an hour like the New Order song, in a spectacular entire minut or 60 seconds but not gone i even have from this 70´s model, also a limousine diesel even slower but as they say slow and steady wins the race ,it would win a race against a ferrari testarossa if the race was several laps around the world this would win with 60 h.p., the ferrari couldn´t keep on runing at a certain number of years of such a race. But seriouslly it as 57 years of age ,and once i found a cabriolet version of the w115, but the owner admited that he had converted the car and re-enforced the floor of the car so with so much weight didn´t start to be shaped like a V
W123....And a wagon!
The convergence of goodness.
This one is super good. I like the budget on these, the passion is infectious.
Wagons are awesome. Specially the 80's era. We have the same W 123 Wagon. Same color too. God we love it. They r super reliable and useful. Thanks for sharing the video.
I had a 123 e mercedes estate, i now have two 124 mercedes estates and i love them [ just pre 1993 ] the beter made models.excellent !!
LOVE the chandelier need one of those.
I’ve always wanted an old Euro wagon. This past June, I got a C4 A6 Avant Quattro with a thick binder of records. It’s temperamental but I’ll never sell it. Favorite car owned so far.
I’m sorry but he’s totally, absolutely right
These are so bloody cool, great workhorse cars that have genuine stories behind them
Why are you sorry?
I have a soft spot for certain wagons and currently own a '95 w124 estate that's been in the family since 2000. Runs strong and is very reliable as long as you keep up the maintenance. This ones a keeper! Would love to add w123 to the garage but trying to find a rust free example is pretty hard to do for a reasonable price.
They made 3 million sedan versions from 76-85 and just a mere 60,000 wagons. Insane!
My first car was the non-turbo sedan of this model. It was a lot slower, a lot more loud and rumbly, but Ioved it so much. The electric windows and seat warmers worked after 30+ years! Only $600 for it.
Magnus Walker is a legend!
I never understood SUV's. They're heavier, less efficient, have worse handling. They just started to catch on in the EU as well unfortunately since a few years. The only reason I would have for buying an SUV is if i have a farm or live on top of a mountain :)).
God awful road quality and the need to be rolling on 20s
@Todd Saeger I race cars. The SRT is one of the worst handling cars. It puts slower lap times on our track than an Abarth 124 that has one third the power. It's not very fast either, 0-200 is only slightly faster than a front wheel drive 220 hp Clio rs trophy. It does sound good though, I drove one. I guess on your huge roads it makes sense. You can't drive fast there anyway.
@@cosminmihu9963 people want the image of being rugged on their way to the shopping mall, and it sells. they also tend to think sitting higher makes them safer
@Todd Saeger an equivalent sized minivan or wagon is a better road car for the average amercian
people never really will make use of the tow rating on those SUVs for the most part or will never go on a road worse than a gravel lot
and this isn't even talking about how compromised Crossovers are
People buy SUVs because they're big and tall and make the driver feel safe. An SUV owner with no partner, who doesn't drive on any dirt roads or transport anything other than groceries is just afraid of death and looking for a big comfy safety car. The Lamborghini or Mustang badge don't change the fact that you're in a giant, goofy looking, tall- riding safety box on wheels for people who hate risks and live in constant fear of accidents but want to look tough.
Had a volvo 940 and my parents owned the 240, 740, 940, v50 but we missed out on the v70. Volvo 940 was one of my first cars, I would still love a 740 turbo wagon one day...
I had a '57 Chevy 210 4 door station wagon in the late 90s, because I was damned if I drove minivan. Good times, highly recommended. Fun video!
Magnus Walker rocks! Thanks Hagerty!
Both of those Cressida wagons are amazing. My family had a couple of Cressida sedans back in the 80s. We knew nothing about cars and drove both into the ground. 😢😁
Had a beautiful 78 240d they really are great cars. Always admired the 300 for the .6 larger displacement and the extra cylinder. Turbo brings a whole different level of performance if you want to call it that.
Station wagons have always been cool. Mercedes Benz just happens to make the best station wagons.
My other passionate vehicle is my 1964 Ford F250 pickup with a long bed. I purchased it from my Dad in 1980 when I graduated from high school.
I have a W201 E55 AMG estate, they only made them for a couple of years and I don't think you got them in the US but if you can find one that hasn't gone rusty they are the last of the simple and reliable AMG cars I think and quite rare in estate car form.
The previous generations of breaks (or wagons) were produced in Mechelen (Belgium). These were converted Ponton and Heckflosse models (MB Universal).
With the W123 S on the automatic stands for "steigen" (engl. climbing). It locks out the 4th gear. L stands for "Last" (engl. load) and locks out 3rd and 4th gear.
no, L is just first gear, S are second and third.
@@alcatrazrider Nope, @TigerVV is correct.
@@w1zard0f0z no, not correct. sorry
@@alcatrazrider I have a S123 280TE, I should know. Maybe you are confused with L starting in first gear, but it does eventually shift into second. D starts in second.
@@w1zard0f0z u have so do l, and l is one gear for load if u wanna shift into second gear u switch to s. and d my friend have all 4 gears, cause simply drive and starts with first one.
I really hope we'll be able to get rid of SUVs in the future and get the Wagon craze back. These things look amazing.
Good now the prices will be so high up I won't be able to afford one soon
Same thing I thought
Get in the game boys. What are you waiting for. Scrap prices are what drives the prices on old wagons. They are worth $750 for their steel sitting in a pasture.
which is why you buy one asap
@@thereissomecoolstuff There is SO MUCH old trash wagons compared to car enthusiasts that I don't see prices going up, like ever.
@@DuBstep115 I disagree. You see a heap wagon not running in a yard going for $3500-4000. It just depends how specific you want to get. People are also going more classic as new car prices are insane. I can buy a heap, get it restored and daily driven for $15k and it will either hold or appreciate. They just aren't as safe as the new cars. If I had young children I wouldn't go old steel.
Kinda funny, I’ve personally owned more muscle cars and 4x4 trucks than I can count on my fingers and toes, but two daily driver AWD wagons of mine have a very special spot in my heart. My 2003 AWD Subaru Outback and 2006 AWD Ford Freestyle Limited. Both tanks in the snow and both comfortable, reliable, durable and somewhat enjoyable to drive lol. Was actually thinking about slamming my Freestyle, swapping a 3.7 in it and doing an SSP Police Interceptor type tribute build.
This winter ago there was a Cressida Wagon just like the blue one at the Santa Paula junkyard. Mesh wheels and all, very complete. Just sat there for 2 month, nobody pulled anything from it.
You can't beat a Wagon, or an estate as we call them in Sheffield Magnus! Ever since I had kids its always been looking at cool through the eyes of practicality. Ask Tom Cotter, now that man LOVES a wagon!! Fair play Magnus, a break from the norm (Porache)
I bought a '93 camry wagon today with the 4cycl 2.2l 5sfe engine (the gas engine of diesels (they get tired at 500k miles). Not too pretty but there are scenes in Japan that seriously dressed these up. Upgrades I'd make are air struts and lighter wheels for mpg gains. punchy little 4 cycle that drives around the sierra's totally fine without the ECT (overdrive mode). bought it haul the dogs to what i need it to, snow included in the mix. highly underrated and i expect this to outlive me.
i have power windows so it didn't come with a manual... i too, plan on a manual swap with a dual centerforce clutch. There's a traditional idea that if you want power windows in a toyota, it was always auto but when you're revving down a track the idea of auto windows when short shifting is just the proper mix of speed and and proper, air cooling.
Have a 2011 BMW 5 series touring and love it. Chose the touring over saloon purely on the look (I'm a 24 year old single man with no kids to ferry around). My friends don't quite see the appeal of estates as I do (in fact they think it stupid I even bought one), but that's probably for the best, indicating that the majority of young people don't want estates and therefore won't drive the price up! S123 or Toyota Crown SW are next on my wish list.
Wagons are the bomb.
Wagons as the next big thing? They've BEEN badass lol
Wagon's have always been on my list.
This series is NOT like other car channels and I love that.
I still have my WRX wagon. What a great run about car!
Keep that forever. It's a bomb. And will be a great classic car in the future. Guaranteed.
Thanks Magnus!
Love these adventures.
I've been a wagon guy and didn't know it. My first was a 63 nova wagon, rust free. Next 71 satellite 383 magnum 4spd pistol grip. All original muscle wagon. I miss it!
that Benz wagon model has been my regret and stil is to have sold mine...almost for nothing!!i tried to re-buy it but i lost it...it was lovely to drive, but mine had the stick. Now i'm driving a next classic i think, is a W210 wagon E320 cdi turbodiesel which is amazing to drive
"I think there is a lot about being born female and being in a car club" righteous. I agree...
I see what she did there ;-) ...
Australia here. My old dad always drove Ford station wagons. I think he was onto something there.
Love these cars. Nice one mate. Also nice choice with the H6 Subaru. Brilliant engine in a very well-sorted car. Station wagons are cool. Always have been. So not sure about any negativity. Love from NZ. Stay safe everyone. Love from NZ.
Love wagons,don’t understand why consumers are crazy over SUV’s . Wife’s daily driver was a 73 VW squareback, on weekends backseat was folded down and back and front trunk was completely filled with camping gear and canoe on top. Getting out of the city was pedal to the metal on twisty’s. Thank god it had Michelin X’s.
This is a great series it’s quite amazing and different love it’s not all about money or speed or unattainable cars well done gents
S123 awesome car the whole 123 series was awesome
The S gear on w123’s is for slope and it locks out 4th gear and shifts later into 2nd and 3rd
Every single wagon here is excellent and the owners seem like awesome people (well, I know Ben is awesome already)
The classic W 123 und W 124 are very popular in Germany ( wagons here simply called the "T"model ) ...and more and more expensive.
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Love the Cressida’s!!!
I do buy what I like, and I adore my two 1988 E34 sedans! Best of old simple technology meeting modern handling and amazing sounds and just the right amout of sound isolation and comfort for my taste, and nothing looks better in my mind!
Station wagons make excellent gasser candidates. The weight distribution makes them so good on launch, so quite a few factory drag racing teams used them in the super stock classes. I could see that Mercedes Benz station would be really horrorshow with a straight axle up front.
Buick Roadmaster Wagon with LT1 😎😎
Magnus lookin all wizardly!
Love wagons ever since my first as a true family grocery getter.
My first car was a 81 Ford Fairmont wagon. 200ci six. Always wanted to put a sbf in it. I've been looking for another one as clean as my first car for years. Still haven't found the right one.
I have a 1981 Mercedes 240d W123. Great cars! I would like to get a wagon. They are well built and they are still seen on the road.
I love my 1987 300TD Wagon w124. I have had many w123’s love them all!
This Mercedes brings back so much memories, my dad had a W123 230 in the 1980s.
Magnus does good interview.
5:58 Ouch...! Knowing how rusty those cars can get...
Thought the exact same thing
Friend in the 90’s had a 5L V8 AMG wagon. That was fun!
Anyone else judge people by the tires they put on their cars? The W123 obviously doesn't need PS4s but Arizonian Silver? Great perspective on how far Toyota has fallen and how they have purged everything that used to make their cars special. IMHO pivot this show to Magnus talking about weird car subcultures.
I feel like you are about ten years late with this prediction!
Here in Australia wagons have an epic cult following from home built Holden’s and fords to Volvo 240s and v8 Audis .
Its hard to see, but when the light hits the side of the Cressida Woody there's this gorgeous swept body line that almost looks out of place, but it works. Look for it @12m50s.
I agree with you about these cars being valuable because of our passion. What other wagons are people passionate about?
In Europe there were T123 with Benzin Engines basic model was the 200T followed by the 230TE and 250T and 280TE. Diesel powered Models were the 200TD the 240TD and the 300 TD Turbo
My 1968 Country Squire was the coolest car I ever had. I had a 1995 E320 Wagon. I currently have a 2006 Dodge Magnum. The Squire was the coolest. Ironically I dreamt up the perfect car years before the Magnum was created. I loved the Mercedes wagon, but wanted it about a foot longer, a hundred more horsepower, and more sleek, yet ride like the Merc, stop like the Merc, and be far more reliable than that lemon year of Merc. Lo and behold, Daimler/Chrysler creates the Magnum. Based on the previous generation E Class front end, S Class back end, stretched to 120 wheelbase, and 340 horsepower Hemi V8. Dreams come true. I love my Magnum. But my Squire was cooler. Girls loved it. One lead singer lady in a badass local band took their album cover photo with her stretched out on the hood. Hippie chicks had to touch it, and had to sit in it. My friend totaled it on accident. Still crying here. The Magnum replaced it. But not quite.
I love my ‘82 300TDT in black and palomino. 162k original miles I’m 3rd owner
Have been twice, coast to coast.
Love my car!
5 Door Lifestyle INDEED! Wagons are just that - BRILLIANT! Loving this series Magnus
Magnus, " How is it going up the hill at Big Bear." Tim "It's about the same as you going to the barber." Ain't gonna happen very fast.
My favorite wagon was an AMC Eagle 4x4. Years ago I told a guy that someday it would be a classic...he laughed at me. Guess what dude?
That's my dream wagon!
Do you have the ability to read my mind...??? I find every car I love in this channel... thank you 😍😍😍
Magnus is the OG LA hipster. Decades before it was even a thing.
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YES! - I am 100% a station wagon fan - what a perfect vehicle
she made vintage wagon as manual its fucking GENIUS FINALLY IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WANTS THAT !!
In the Mercedes transmission, the L stands for LOW, which means the will stay only in 1st gear. The S stands for SNOW, which means the transmission will stay only in 2nd gear. This is for when driving in slippery surfaces, the car won't drift when it's starting to move.
S stands for Steigen (climbing in German), shifts later, using only three of the four gears, useful for overtaking without using the kick-down, having more power for climbing moderate hills; L stands for Last, under load, with a trailer or for very steep hills, shifts even later, using only two gears.