The Porsche 924 wasn't born a Porsche. It became one. | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 09

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2021
  • The Porsche 924, 944, and 968 were never meant to be Porsches. This lineup started as a consulting gig for Volkswagen, code named EA425. Which was to be sold as an Audi or VW.
    VW killed the project, leaving Porsche without one of the two prongs for its 911 replacement, the 4-cylinder transaxle 924 and the V-8 928.
    So Porsche bought the rights to the project, applied an arbitrary "924" badge to the EA425, and Audi built it under contract for Porsche in Neckarsulm.
    There wasn't a single Porsche part on it.
    However, over time, the 924 became the 924S and the 944, with a real Porsche engine, rather than the old Daimler-inspired, Audi-built 2.0-liter from the VW LT transit van.
    By the end of the car's 20-year run, the 968 had the second interior, second engine, third body - but still used suspension components designed for the Super Beetle (VW Type 1 1302), Mk1 Golf / Rabbit, Microbus, and Thing.
    And yet it won awards for its handling. That is something only Porsche could accomplish - taking a flawed design and honing it to perfection over decades.
    If there was ever a real measure of a true Porsche, that's it. And thus, the 924, 944, and 968 weren't born Porsches. But they very much became real Porsches.
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  • @enzonation5363
    @enzonation5363 2 роки тому +1780

    When I was a teenager, I stole my old man 928 GTS while he was out of town and got caught on the interstate running 172mph in 60mph. He came and got his car out of impound and left me in jail. God I miss that fella, well long story short, I now own a 928 I was arrested in 25 years ago. Very underrated car.

    • @mr22guy
      @mr22guy 2 роки тому +165

      Sorry about your old man. I have similar stories. 928s are incredible cars.

    • @zakjb1523
      @zakjb1523 2 роки тому +41

      beautiful story

    • @Nik111333
      @Nik111333 2 роки тому +143

      your old man did right, i would do the same with my daughter if she ever do such things with my car or motorbike.

    • @laurat1129
      @laurat1129 2 роки тому +82

      Did you also meet a girl, get chased by her pimp, then get high and let your dad's 928 roll into a lake? ("Who's the U-boat commander...") 😎 JK, but as I type this, I see news that this very same 928 from the movie just went to auction today.

    • @enzonation5363
      @enzonation5363 2 роки тому +75

      @@laurat1129 Sorry, no beautiful girl in this story, only a cell mate named Leroy that smoked old cigarettes butts in toilet paper and refused to pay his child support. I get your reference though, Risky Business was before my time but I've seen it. Ok movie.

  • @waqas5501
    @waqas5501 2 роки тому +2299

    Hagerty is now what Motortrend used to be for me. Such quality and educational content. Brilliant!

    • @cajungoat
      @cajungoat 2 роки тому +152

      I used to watch MT just for Cammisa so that works out for me.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 роки тому +86

      MotorWho?

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon 2 роки тому +6

      @@joshuagibson2520 🤣🤣

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon 2 роки тому +39

      @@joshuagibson2520 Same as with Road&Truck ! 🤢
      Canceled my sub after 40 years !

    • @johndc2998
      @johndc2998 2 роки тому +13

      Yup, amazing they are an insurance company too.

  • @richardsmith3136
    @richardsmith3136 2 роки тому +408

    I absolutely LOVED my 944. I literary cried when I was t-boned by a reckless driver that blew through a stop sign. All of the witnesses thought I was crying because of physical pain caused by the accident...but it was losing my beloved 944 that had me screaming like a misbehaving 3 year old at WalMart. I'm actually tearing up now. Great car!

    • @GeneralJackRipper
      @GeneralJackRipper Рік тому +21

      I know how you feel.

    • @myopiniongoodyouropinionbad
      @myopiniongoodyouropinionbad Рік тому +9

      I would probably do exactly the same thing

    • @LGTheOneFreeMan
      @LGTheOneFreeMan Рік тому

      For one thing Hagerty, screw you and your little pop-up rules list, number two, the same thing happened to my sister’s VW Corrado in the 90s.

    • @Eatinbritches
      @Eatinbritches Рік тому +4

      RIP.

    • @bartsullivan4866
      @bartsullivan4866 Рік тому +4

      Richard was it the turbo model or the base one? It still looked like an awesome car regardless.

  • @mr19zee
    @mr19zee 2 роки тому +777

    The Porsche 944 is what drove me through 5 years of engineering school. Mine is a 1983 and I still own it. Driving it on curvy roads is one of the few pleasures I have in life.

    • @Boemel
      @Boemel 2 роки тому +8

      thats nice, iv always wanted one but now its €30.000 here for a sort of decent 944 2.5.

    • @CLOYO
      @CLOYO 2 роки тому +6

      One of few... I can imagine..

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 роки тому +7

      @@Boemel i bought a special edition cabriolet all leather inside with the top looking like suede ,bordeux coulour with a number on the dash it cost me 500€ in the netherlands this in late 80´s or early 90´s when porshe was a cheap car, and i´m talking about perfect condition cars after i bought a 968 S but sold dozens of them, the 911 was still expensive but afordable the maintenance was the problem , i had a black 911turbo from the first years,don´t remenber what i paid i was selling so many that i don´t remenber what i´ve paid for the 911 or the 968, those late 70´s porshes were perfect ,you had the option of choosing the interior at your own taste, regards

    • @jerryyeaaah15
      @jerryyeaaah15 2 роки тому +10

      being an engineering student now and driving a 944 😄!!🤝

    • @Len_M.
      @Len_M. 2 роки тому +1

      Porsche 944 was my first diecast model display car as a kid. Loved that thing.

  • @johnpenwell6402
    @johnpenwell6402 2 роки тому +696

    I have an unhealthy love for those phone dial rims.

    • @romulus_
      @romulus_ 2 роки тому +16

      a neighbor has a 997 with rotiforms in that style. great look.

    • @Ermy1996
      @Ermy1996 2 роки тому +18

      My 924 has the 4 lugs phone dials, i went to great lenghts to get a set. I guess i do too

    • @titaniummechanism3214
      @titaniummechanism3214 2 роки тому +13

      I love the ones on the Diablo!

    • @sterlingsilver320
      @sterlingsilver320 2 роки тому +1

      I have a set I’ve been trying to sell for months, but nobody wants them 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @johnpenwell6402
      @johnpenwell6402 2 роки тому +2

      @@sterlingsilver320 I’m crazy but not quite crazy enough to buy a set wheels before getting the car.

  • @Everything_All_In_One_Place
    @Everything_All_In_One_Place 8 місяців тому +26

    I'm a life-long Porsche devotee so I say this with no ill-will, but I remember as a kid, my friend's father bought a 924, and because it was a Porsche, we all assumed it was going to be a super-fast race car. Then he took us out for a drive in it, and I remember thinking, "This is only slightly faster than my mom's Toyota."

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 7 місяців тому +3

      and breaks down after every 10 000

  • @tonyincs
    @tonyincs Рік тому +71

    I unfortunately I had and sold a '77 in '96.
    Got it for 501 USD. It had a common issue with the fuel system which required a 20 dollar part to fix.
    I sold it for 2500 USD the next weekend after I buffed it and bristle brushed the rims (polished without polish).
    It had around 84k miles and was in pristine condition. Interior was flawless. Complete service/ownership records in the glove box!
    I should have kept that car.

  • @regthebackyardjackofalltrades
    @regthebackyardjackofalltrades Рік тому +39

    I’m definitely a Porsche fan but could only afford a 1980 Scirocco. I read my cousins car and driver magazine on how to drive a stick shift and practiced on his non running 1972 Pinto in the driveway. Year later in 1987 I saw a Scirocco in the used car lot adjacent to JFK airport. I purchased the car and drove off the lot without ever test driving it or knowing how to drive a stick shift car. I drove out the lot and headed to work at UPS on 43rd and 12th Avenue. I was too nervous to stall the car and made it from the Conduit, Van Wyck, LIE and across the 59th street bridge without stalling. I made my first left in NYC and got caught at a light surrounded by NYC taxicabs. My car stalled and their horns were wailing. With the noise of the taxi’s horns I learned quickly by recalling the car and driver magazine and drove off never to stall again. That was one of my best cars.

    • @tjnies
      @tjnies Рік тому

      I loved the Rabbit GTI conversions (as at the time VW did have the GTI in the States), and when the Scirocco came out, was in love.
      Sadly had to sell my first for college (dark green exterior / tan interior) but bought another at some point after. That one had a few issues, and was glad to get rid of it.

  • @kl4prez
    @kl4prez 2 роки тому +323

    A 924S (924 with the 944 engine) is sitting in my family's garage right now. Love that car to death. My grandpa bought it new in 1988 and it still looks as it did on the showroom floor.

    • @bulleck
      @bulleck 2 роки тому +16

      Same here…we have a 1988 924S in our family garage that my dad and I bought years ago. I love that thing. 😀

    • @kooooons
      @kooooons 2 роки тому +9

      I got a used a '82 944 as my first car 10 Years ago - These cars are so underappreciated! Sadly it's currently sitting in a Garage 10 minutes from my home waiting for several Fixes while I try to handle family Life - the Driving at the end gave me all of the nostalgia

    • @buddybestor
      @buddybestor 2 роки тому +2

      How much do you want for it? $$$

    • @barryrudge1576
      @barryrudge1576 2 роки тому +5

      A 944 is basically a 924 with a different set of wings on it. So is the 968.

    • @bulleck
      @bulleck 2 роки тому +7

      @@barryrudge1576 different axles, different engine…and later different cockpit, different windows, highly modified body…

  • @HusniAmir
    @HusniAmir 2 роки тому +405

    My heart skips a beat whenever there's a new Jason Camisa video.

  • @TheHomeExpert5
    @TheHomeExpert5 Рік тому +36

    That Ivory and black 944 interior is stunning! One of the best Porsche Interiors of all time.

  • @jessesmithworkshop6365
    @jessesmithworkshop6365 Рік тому +6

    I bought my 1987 944 almost 1 year ago. I bought it non running and it was sitting behind the PO's garage for around 3 years due to the clutch master cylinder and the dme relay going out. I'm 18 and this is My first porsche I have since fixed it up and have replaced the following- dme relay, fuel pump, cleaned fuel injectors and installed new seals, new lindsay racing braided steel fuel lines, spark plugs, cap and rotor, oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, fresh coolant flush, new clutch master cylinder , bled brakes and clutch, and there's lots lots more. All of this I have accomplished by myself with the help of youtube and the repair manual. The car is in beautiful condition now and I hope to keep it that way.

  • @lukasgarner307
    @lukasgarner307 2 роки тому +300

    this is the best show on youtube hands down

    • @Shmee149
      @Shmee149 2 роки тому +2

      You haven't seen the Carmudgeon, didn't you?

    • @lukasgarner307
      @lukasgarner307 2 роки тому +3

      @@Shmee149 i have not. i guess i should check it out

    • @KevZJ
      @KevZJ 2 роки тому

      Try savagegeese if you you like in-depth car information.

    • @umtbozkr2358
      @umtbozkr2358 2 роки тому

      Jason is the best!

    • @whodatwhoder
      @whodatwhoder 2 роки тому

      @@umtbozkr2358 he’s cool but not as cool as Calvin Harris.

  • @isaacmelgar9647
    @isaacmelgar9647 2 роки тому +192

    I really like this series, the detail, the info everything & I'm happy to be this early

    • @fabianmarcoschau
      @fabianmarcoschau 2 роки тому +2

      Same same here, just happy to have discovered it

  • @hunterjohnson7393
    @hunterjohnson7393 9 місяців тому +1

    The 944 Turbo was one of the greatest cars ever engineered. Yes the 924 was a parts-bin special, but the 944 had the same suspension as the M3 but mopped the floors with it. When I lived in Berlin, my dentist's dad was CFO of Porsche and he introduced me to the Weissach engineers I needed to know. As a PCA instructor, I obtained the 968 Turbo RS suspension settings and when I came back to the States I ordered custom coil-overs from Koni valved to 968 spec plus Hypercoil springs and M030 antiroll bars and 928 GTS brakes. When Randy Pobst drove my car in the rain at Mid Ohio in 2007, he said it was the best handling car he's ever driven--thanks to the 968 RS spec suspension I had along with Pirelli wet tires. I wish I could take credit for it, but I had a bit of help. The 944 Turbo is one of the greatest cars ever made.

  • @patrickplazas900
    @patrickplazas900 2 роки тому +27

    I have a 1987 924S in my garage, I love that thing and love that it’s a Porsche that the average tinkering individual can tool on and learn how to work on them. There are plenty of useful videos for these cars out there as well. Awesome car to drive and own!!!

  • @microchrist6122
    @microchrist6122 2 роки тому +446

    And there go the last affordable Porsche’s. Hold on a sec let me count the holes in my head real quick…

    • @jim_bocho
      @jim_bocho 2 роки тому +49

      Nah. These went up already quite a bit (at least in Germany/Europe). The „last affordable“ Porsche is probably the 986 Boxster.
      On another note: I still don’t get over how hideous these bumpers and reflectors are 😅

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 2 роки тому +3

      In the UK there are still quite a few cheap Porsche models.

    • @fabianmarcoschau
      @fabianmarcoschau 2 роки тому +5

      Wheez😂😂😂💯I counted my holes in my head as well so I fucking chuckled at your comment

    • @GoodMenstruationAttitude
      @GoodMenstruationAttitude 2 роки тому +3

      @@jim_bocho why do you have to hurt us like this? my state even has front license plate mandatory ;_;

    • @jim_bocho
      @jim_bocho 2 роки тому +2

      @@GoodMenstruationAttitude Have you seen the baking trays we have to drive around with in Germany? 😅

  • @APCJunky
    @APCJunky 2 роки тому +34

    I for one really appreciate that we get to see the car in question driven 'with spirit' at the of these videos, on a normal winding road where most of us will most likely enjoy them, and get to here them 'for real' rather than a track day fly by or deafening drum and base, keep up the good..no outstanding work!

    • @martingardens
      @martingardens 2 роки тому +1

      FYI, it's Lucas Valley road in Marin County.

  • @SpudEater
    @SpudEater 2 роки тому +87

    The 944 exploded in value and I remember begging my dad to let me buy one back in 2012 in highschool. I worked disgusting hours for a highschool student and did side jobs constantly. I had a pretty good little nest egg and would've loved to have a 944 with every nuance that came with it

    • @kennycoulter5525
      @kennycoulter5525 2 роки тому +7

      @@joejoe188 , no, they jumped in value way before that. I sold mine for pennies in 2010. I started looking again in 2016 but couldn't find anything that didn't need major work for less than $5,000. The nicer examples were already up around 15,000-17,000. This past summer, the prices were just the same.
      yes, everything has gone up though. These were just jumping in popularity and price a little earlier than that. between 2000-2012 people were buying up running cars for $750 and LITERALLY chopping them up to part out. After every part was off, they sawzall-ed the bodies to take them to scrap because they were worthless at the time.

    • @RobJaskula
      @RobJaskula 2 роки тому

      @@kennycoulter5525 it's too bad. Time was you could get a decent driver 83-85 for 2000-3000 bucks and an early Turbo for 7 or 8. I miss owning 944s and really hope I'll be able to one day again, but it's not looking good!

    • @theeoddments960
      @theeoddments960 2 роки тому

      @@joejoe188 wrong

    • @ThillerKillerX
      @ThillerKillerX Рік тому

      Same dude, could have bought 2 for $1000 one to build one for parts. Dad said no, probably had his reasons but dang could have made some money

  • @CapitulationTrader
    @CapitulationTrader 2 роки тому

    Great story. Thanks. I had a 85.5 944 in the 90s. Loved it. History, engineering, resourcefulness, survival. Epic tale of victory. Cheers!

  • @kristianhermann5971
    @kristianhermann5971 2 роки тому +48

    Love the in car footage for a finale. The combo of intake, exhaust, and tire squeal at the limit are music to my ears

    • @bill2953
      @bill2953 2 роки тому

      Also good for a wide-eyed cyclist..

    • @DANTHETUBEMAN
      @DANTHETUBEMAN 2 роки тому +1

      That was good driving,, it's so relaxing to be in the Zone

  • @bobbyread
    @bobbyread 2 роки тому +42

    Great video. Now I’m going to hop in my 944 and drive the 30 miles to work.

  • @nathanielcargile7135
    @nathanielcargile7135 2 роки тому

    This Chanel is definitely in my top 5 all time favorite UA-cam Chanel’s. Thank you for all the hard work!

  • @joesephelaiza2789
    @joesephelaiza2789 2 роки тому +1

    Extremely educating and enlightening. Wish we have more programs like this. Well done Mr. Camesa, and Mr. Hagerty.

  • @crujones5319
    @crujones5319 2 роки тому +37

    I've been daily driving my 968 while my other car has been in the shop. It really is a fantastic car, and it amazes me that for basically a 40+ year old design, I still get people asking me if it's a new model from Porsche!

    • @anthonyfarnan5935
      @anthonyfarnan5935 2 роки тому +2

      It really is one of the best looking cars ever made

    • @crujones5319
      @crujones5319 2 роки тому

      @@anthonyfarnan5935 I agree! I just wish that during all that development time, they had fixed the damn rear hatch issue!

  • @tschimbo12
    @tschimbo12 2 роки тому +56

    I love that this series summarizes the story of an interesting car so well - PLUS it involves research beyond reading a few Wikipedia articles and therefore almost always brings information that even hardcore carnerds didn't know about.

    • @johnpenwell6402
      @johnpenwell6402 2 роки тому +4

      For real, I’ve lost count of how many cartubers I’ve watched who seem like they have interesting things to say until they get to a car I know and it quickly becomes apparent they’re either talking out of their ass or just half assed the research.

    • @mr22guy
      @mr22guy 2 роки тому +4

      I am a 944 junkie and have owned over 10 of them (including variants) over a 20 year span, and there were 2 facts in there that I didn't know. Thanks Jason and Hagerty.

    • @tschimbo12
      @tschimbo12 2 роки тому

      @@mr22guy Right!? Same for me - I own a W124 and the Video about the 500E taught me a thing or two about it, although I'm a huge nerd about it.

  • @captaincoyote1792
    @captaincoyote1792 2 роки тому +2

    When I turned 50, coinciding with the year I was promoted to O-6, I rewarded myself with an extremely low mileage 1990 944s2 Cabriolet. I had wanted one since seeing my first one “in the flesh”, parked on the Norfolk Navy pier and owned by my XO (who bought it to console himself after a nasty divorce). Seventeen years later, I still own mine….and while in storage through the winter months….it never fails to bring “smiles with the miles”! Great video….and I always get a kick out of any source that makes it clear that the front engine, water cooled 924/944 saved Porsche’s proverbial financial ass. And this was an exceptional video!

  • @_Chev_Chelios
    @_Chev_Chelios 2 роки тому +2

    Jason, this is my favorite car series currently. Incredible research. Spot on pace. Just the right amount of your signature cheesiness. Wonderful driver’s point-of-view sights and SOUNDS of these cars. And (thank god) no drifting!

  • @twgood5882
    @twgood5882 2 роки тому +114

    13:14 Cyclist says hello. Hagerty, I love the Camissa series explaining cars to me.

  • @kevingrace8789
    @kevingrace8789 2 роки тому +67

    A fabulous expose on a criminally underrated car! Amazing work as always by Mr. Cammisa. I drove my 944 to work the last few days and it never fails to put a smile on my face.

    • @kyleyost5020
      @kyleyost5020 2 роки тому +1

      Please let it stay underated I get my license in 4 months hoping to get one still decently cheap

  • @elefantinoverde5832
    @elefantinoverde5832 2 роки тому

    Jason, thank you soooo much for that series. it´s absolutely great to watch and hear - simply great. Go on with that style, i love it. Greetings from Germany

  • @joejoe188
    @joejoe188 2 роки тому +7

    The 924 started as a planned idea to then grow up to be the 968 and end the era of the 924. The 924S by far is has the best sleek design of of them all. Even in stock form vs a stock 944, or 944 turbo, the 924S is the smoothest at top speed. Cutting through the air like butter. Whatever you drive, wether a 944 Turbo or a 968, you are still driving a grown up 924! Plain and simple.
    Love them all!!!

  • @Orcawhale1
    @Orcawhale1 2 роки тому +71

    Never get tired of Cammisa!

    • @tarcioandree
      @tarcioandree 2 роки тому +3

      Never get tired of hagerty

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa 2 роки тому +5

      That’s a wheely nice comment. Thanks!

  • @Kristian_Saile
    @Kristian_Saile 2 роки тому +33

    I have owned a Thing my whole life and have had a couple of 944’s. Always enjoyed sharing the fact that the two cars shared componentry. Blew people’s’ minds. First time I have ever heard anyone on Youtuve share that nugget of random knowledge, strong work!

    • @bennyhannover9361
      @bennyhannover9361 2 роки тому +2

      Porsche was for a Long time from 1948 to 1974 a main development brain work and technical thinktank until the mid-engine compact car Desaster from 1972 that cost Volkswagen billions of Deutschmark and nearly brought bankruptcy to VW. So there is no wonder about parallel part use..

    • @Kristian_Saile
      @Kristian_Saile 2 роки тому +1

      Andreas Schmidt absolutely. I love the engineering behind the original beetle and it’s derivatives as well as the Porsche adaptions as well. I had a 69 911 as well and the dna was clearly visible even though the build quality and attention to detail were a magnitude higher

  • @lindonandlisa8114
    @lindonandlisa8114 2 роки тому

    I could listen to you talk about cars for forever thank you so much you are just brilliant

  • @NLBassist
    @NLBassist Рік тому

    I'm a big car geek and I just discovered your channel. I'm afraid I'm going to watch all your content the next couple of days. Love it! Great!

  • @cameron3934
    @cameron3934 2 роки тому +10

    I have a 944 and love the transaxle Porsches. Seeing this video, along with Jason Cammisa, makes my day. THANK YOU!

  • @Papa-Bogey
    @Papa-Bogey 2 роки тому +41

    I love Jason. I’m so glad he landed at Hagerty. I also love he quotes every car magazine except MT. LOL ...

  • @platinumgrit
    @platinumgrit 2 роки тому

    You guys keep on absolutely rocking the high quality fantastic content. Every. Single. Episode.

  • @elzergone
    @elzergone 2 роки тому +1

    Love all the history, thank you! My '84 944 was my first love, and my '86 was my absolute obsession. Such unique cars. My 86 is waiting in the barn for an eventual engine swap. I've owned 25+ cars over the years, and my '86 944 is my enduring favorite out of all of them.

  • @WyattWill
    @WyattWill 2 роки тому +32

    Cammisa and Chris Harris are really the best car reviewers out there.

    • @atticusrussell1225
      @atticusrussell1225 2 роки тому +1

      I 100% agree. I think Henry Catchpole and maybe Matt Farah get honorable mentions too.

    • @douglasthomas5090
      @douglasthomas5090 2 роки тому +3

      I miss the vibe with Camissa and Hyphen.

    • @pilotboatk8187
      @pilotboatk8187 2 роки тому

      Along with thomas and james

    • @ofirs5830
      @ofirs5830 2 роки тому

      What are Doug?

    • @anthonyfarnan5935
      @anthonyfarnan5935 2 роки тому

      Throw a blanket over Cammisa, Harris, Catchpole and Metcalfe.

  • @rallyeo75
    @rallyeo75 2 роки тому +18

    Two things - While the 944 was basically the same thing as the 924 it was beefed up underneath to handle extra power. The 968, however, was an entirely new car, not a facelifted 944.

    • @gregmayled
      @gregmayled 2 роки тому +11

      It was a development of the 944 S2. It wasn’t an entirely new car.

    • @nickthompson318
      @nickthompson318 2 роки тому +2

      Yep, not an entirely new car.

    • @quincylongman7469
      @quincylongman7469 2 роки тому +2

      The interior of the 968 is damn near identical to the 85.5 and on 944

    • @papasmurf986
      @papasmurf986 2 роки тому +5

      Porsche claimed something like 85% new or something like that, but it was a facelifted 944...originally going to be the S3 until they thought it was new enough (marketing probably had something to do with it) to call it its own designation. Lots of parts are interchangeable between the two.

    • @rallyeo75
      @rallyeo75 2 роки тому +2

      @@papasmurf986 yep, that’s fair. Definitely much more than just a facelift, though.

  • @shafferjoe1962
    @shafferjoe1962 2 роки тому

    Brother I love how you present cars on this show. I do wish they were longer as I feel there is a lot more to share about each car. Keep up the good work.

  • @paulmarcel9480
    @paulmarcel9480 2 роки тому +1

    Great memories, I was a P+A dealership mechanic during all of this. Thanks for the accurate video.

  • @freibier
    @freibier 2 роки тому +20

    Really good video, thanks! When I was young, there was always this stigma of "can't afford a real Porsche, huh?" if someone had a 924. But I always liked the styling of the 924 and especially the 944 turbo. And today all of them are cool classics.

    • @farishanafiah8461
      @farishanafiah8461 Місяць тому

      Same story with the Boxster. Even in the days of CHM Top Gear, both Clarkson and Hammond critized those who own it as those who can't afford the 911.

  • @papatorr3669
    @papatorr3669 2 роки тому +43

    Jason, I know you have an extensive team behind you, but you do a great job as the front man! Top shelf productions.

  • @nz9636
    @nz9636 2 роки тому +5

    Jason Cammisa's work is always excellent!

  • @jc944t
    @jc944t 2 роки тому +5

    This video makes an important point that the Transaxle Porsches were not the only cars that Porsche continued to evolve. To add to this point, Porsche achieved this continued refinement and development on the racetrack. 924 GTP which won its class in the 1981, 24hrs of Le Mans became the basis of the 944 Turbo road car. Awesome video, well done!

  • @jameseli5782
    @jameseli5782 2 роки тому +29

    EXCELLENT! Never stop producing this series. (And I love seeing the cars flogged at the end each episode - on Marin backroads!)

  • @patrickz7908
    @patrickz7908 2 роки тому +16

    @5:30 Resonance analogies don't get any better than this! 😂 You guys make fantastic videos

  • @dennisl6198
    @dennisl6198 2 роки тому

    This has to be the best show of its kind anywhere. well done Jason.

  • @Simplentertainments
    @Simplentertainments 2 роки тому

    This the history on iconic car brand that I’ve been searching for. The kind that shows the back story relating to each car model, the car company’s philosophy, their foundation, their short comings and their stories of overcoming those challenges to make the best sport cars! I want more!!!!

  • @LooseNut099
    @LooseNut099 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you, Jason. Thank you Hagerty for another terrifically informative lesson in automotive history. As a former owner of a 944, I credit this fantastic car for starting my Porsche journey. The first ever ride in a Porsche was in a 924 which lit the fuse.

  • @matthieubret3304
    @matthieubret3304 2 роки тому +4

    Proud owner of a 1984 944 for 4 years now. Despite everything bad I've heard about it, this car is absolutely fantastic! Still makes me smile every time I take it for a spin. So much fun to drive!

  • @fredericc9676
    @fredericc9676 2 роки тому

    I'm not into cars at all but I'm fascinated by this series. Great show for sure, bravo for the quality.

  • @dougharding5231
    @dougharding5231 2 місяці тому

    This is one of the most informative and educational car videos I've ever seen. Great work. Love the tech talk!

  • @abboudab6794
    @abboudab6794 2 роки тому +43

    you need more exposure Jason. Your shows are amazing, you get into the technical parts without being boring. Scripts are A1, film is A1. You need more views. you should be Guest appearance or 4th player on the next CAR TREK

    • @tusam3643
      @tusam3643 2 роки тому +2

      he has nothing to do with those spoiled rich kids

    • @neoleo593
      @neoleo593 2 роки тому

      @@tusam3643 wat

    • @Jackinacox
      @Jackinacox 2 роки тому

      ehh no, He's a proper auto journalist.

    • @Uninfluenceable
      @Uninfluenceable 2 роки тому +3

      More exposure? He's literally the most famous car journo after Chris Harris...

    • @neoleo593
      @neoleo593 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jackinacox who also likes to have fun, he would fit well with car trek, and by extension vinwiki

  • @EverythingAutomotive13
    @EverythingAutomotive13 2 роки тому +10

    Jason you should be proud of what you do! Thank You for digging for real facts and presenting them so well! Great Job

  • @kde5fan737
    @kde5fan737 2 роки тому +7

    This has become one of my favorite channels! I can't believe I never heard of Hagerty media before this. Do they make a magazine as well? In the 90's I'd get 5-6 car magazines a month and none of them were as good as this! Excellent job!

  • @gregorymcintosh5774
    @gregorymcintosh5774 Рік тому

    Thanx Jason ! You bring great emotional connection to the cars of my youth. My first car,
    Corolla red gts coupe, the
    Mazda rx7 turbo II, Toyota
    Supra, ect. God, not as fast
    as todays camry, but it felt
    as if there was nothing better.🙂✌

  • @S8ER
    @S8ER 2 роки тому +3

    You’re an unbelievable talent Jason. Very happy to see you still producing content and can’t wait for more.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute 2 роки тому +7

    Yes just yes. I love this whole series of cars and while I knew a lot of the pieces of their history, Jason filled in new ones and then made a fantastic picture out of it all, bravo.

  • @moriver3857
    @moriver3857 Рік тому +3

    Back in 1985 for my 25th birthday, I bought a 924, with of course, the Audi engine. I couldn't believe how well balanced and predictable that car was. The only mod I made was a bit wider tires on BBS wheels, for even better handling. It wasn't awful fast, but on windings roads like on the video, pure fun. I later drove the S model, and an early 944. The wider track of the 944, was definitely better, but always thought the 924S was the better value and equally fun. Don't hardly see any of them anymore. Great video.

  • @marksherman2862
    @marksherman2862 2 роки тому +1

    My 1981 Porsche 924 got me 7 years perfect attendance, the way it felt was perfect! Thanks for doing an episode on this car it truly deserves it!!

    • @shadeburst
      @shadeburst Рік тому

      A great car, after I'd bought my RX-7 I regretted not spending the extra bucks.

  • @Androctonus84
    @Androctonus84 2 роки тому +7

    One of my favorite cars I've ever owned was my 924. It was a fantastic car that was a blast to drive.

  • @SgtHail
    @SgtHail 2 роки тому +10

    Great to see the start of universal appreciation for the 924, really enjoyed the video. Shame the racing pedigree/history of the 924 (Turbo & Carrera GT) wasn't covered. With a LeMans class victory and Monte Carlo participation it's certainly not a car to be ignored! Can't wait to see more like this.

  • @mannyrosado9887
    @mannyrosado9887 4 місяці тому

    Absolutlu the best and most informative car channel in YT! Cant get enough.

  • @joebadger
    @joebadger 12 днів тому

    When I was a teen, one uncle had a 924 & another had a 944. I spent a lot of time in these. Very nostalgic for a front-engine Porsche.

  • @jeshkam
    @jeshkam 2 роки тому +13

    Lol, that John Candy cameo made my day 🤣😂😁

    • @gregholloway2656
      @gregholloway2656 2 роки тому +2

      “Has anyone ever embarrassed you this badly?” Hahaha

  • @horatiumoisa5254
    @horatiumoisa5254 2 роки тому +9

    hands down one of the best car shows together with the grand tour

  • @carguy99
    @carguy99 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video! As a 911 owner I have a new appreciation for the 924 and 944!

  • @jacobreed47
    @jacobreed47 2 роки тому

    Hagerty is my newest favorite car enthusiast location on the internet. It is excellent- don’t change a single thing. For us gear heads / petrol heads, these Hagerty documentaries is just what we all need. Hello from Seattle.

  • @Flozman1982
    @Flozman1982 Рік тому +4

    I owned a 924s 2.5 and it was one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Deceptively fast and cornered a dream.

    • @jesseclutterbuck6617
      @jesseclutterbuck6617 Рік тому

      same 😊 mine was in Royal red. i agree such a great car. ive never come across anything like it

  • @kd1s
    @kd1s 2 роки тому +6

    I've always loved the body style on the 924/944.

  • @DLITINTHEHOUSE
    @DLITINTHEHOUSE 2 роки тому

    Thoroughly enjoy this series. Great work!

  • @RobStevens64
    @RobStevens64 Рік тому

    Great video, Jason! When I was a kid, I had two dream cars. The first was the Lamborghini Countach ... I used to draw those constantly ... straight lines made it easy. The other was the Porsche 924 S Turbo, so I found this video really enlightening, and brought me right back to my childhood.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 2 роки тому +11

    This made me smile. Thank you so much for the history. I've always been a big fan of the front engined Porsches, (especially the 928), ever since I first saw them in car magazines as a kid in the 80's. The 928 is my all time dream car. I cringe every time I see a modified 944 or 928. Thank you.

    • @kaiserbillxiv1245
      @kaiserbillxiv1245 2 роки тому

      There is one a half an hour from my place. An 85 with 40K kms. Never been driven for a number of years so I imagine you would have to drain all the fluids to get it running. Garaged and one owner. Black of course. The only issue I have with the 928 is those goofy pop up lights when raised. They should have incorporated them in the design.

  • @RestorationApprentice
    @RestorationApprentice 2 роки тому +8

    Love the episode! I'm currently doing a full restoration on my 924, and documenting it all.

    • @slavoexploresamerica4495
      @slavoexploresamerica4495 2 роки тому +1

      Been enjoying watching yours and getting inspired about my own 924 project

    • @RestorationApprentice
      @RestorationApprentice 2 роки тому

      @@slavoexploresamerica4495 Thank you! Good luck with your project too!

  • @KhristianSmith
    @KhristianSmith 2 роки тому

    Brings me back. I have had four 944s in the very past years. Loved my 86 1/2 red with 911 Fush (sp?) rims, wish I didn't hit the fence in college. Its still a design I think would sell today with very little updates.

  • @exploranator
    @exploranator 2 роки тому

    The stripped-down, hollow-door 924 S turbo or special or whatever it was with strings to undo the doors was peak Porsche racer fanaticism. That thing was so raw it had that "She's a mean girl but, boy does she smooch" appeal.

  • @michaellee9295
    @michaellee9295 2 роки тому +6

    This video made me miss my 944 so badly. Especially the drive at the end, with it's raspy sound and induction noise.

  • @daveblock4061
    @daveblock4061 2 роки тому +6

    I had one. A fun little car, nimble and easily modded with 944/Audi bits.

  • @1950harleycharley
    @1950harleycharley 2 роки тому

    WOW!! This is the best auto UA-cam video...Love this channel!!! Great content

  • @johnjerrehian4642
    @johnjerrehian4642 2 роки тому

    Great video! I used to have a 944 that was my daily driver and tracked occasionally. Then I bought a 944T and modified to 420 HP. I loved that car. Too this day, the 944/944T were my two most exciting cars I owned.

  • @HeartTribe
    @HeartTribe 2 роки тому +6

    Gosh, y'all really just make me want every one of these cars...

  • @Kmancanada
    @Kmancanada 2 роки тому +8

    That was a great story and great story-telling. Thanks again Jason, for such rich, engrossing content.
    I remember my young self trying to wrap his head around how a 4-cyl Porsche was in the same class as -- and **beating** -- the V8 Corvette in SSGT-class racing.
    The 944 still looks contemporary today.

  • @MakiPavlidis
    @MakiPavlidis Рік тому +1

    What an amazing video! Loved it, thanks for making it.

  • @sabba_dabba8649
    @sabba_dabba8649 Рік тому +1

    I test drove an 89 924S. Was going to buy it, but before plunking down my money I test drove a civic Si for shits and giggles and couldn't believe how much better the ride quality and handling was. Was so much fun I bought it. No regrets.

  • @stubailey9433
    @stubailey9433 2 роки тому +5

    Jason, you are very good at this stuff!

  • @gaspererjavec7108
    @gaspererjavec7108 2 роки тому +15

    As a 924 owner o thank you for doing it justice, this car's have gotten so much hate from the so called purists that's don't even know the history of it.

    • @alan-1768
      @alan-1768 Рік тому

      Hey I'm thinking about getting one , do they drive well?

  • @alibaba4063
    @alibaba4063 2 місяці тому

    When I was 19 in 1984 I worked at a Porsche dealer and was able to rip around in 944 and 928 all the time, what a blast! 💥

  • @maxicant
    @maxicant 2 роки тому

    I came from H3 podcast, the one day my UA-cam premium ends, I get an AD for this video. I watched it, I got hooked, and I subbed. So great job Hagerty. You got my support 👏

  • @minascholevas
    @minascholevas 2 роки тому +46

    2:43 What's wrong with a hole in the head you already have 7 of them. *Vsauce intesifies*

    • @johnbacon4997
      @johnbacon4997 2 роки тому +4

      2 for ear holes, 2 for nostrils, 1 for mouth, are eyes the last two?

    • @minascholevas
      @minascholevas 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnbacon4997 I see you are a man of culture as well

    • @hydrothermalworm7778
      @hydrothermalworm7778 2 роки тому

      @@johnbacon4997 there are little ducts that connect your eyes and throat those are the other two

    • @johnbacon4997
      @johnbacon4997 2 роки тому

      @@hydrothermalworm7778 you mean the sinuses?

  • @cx7sleven369
    @cx7sleven369 Рік тому +3

    My first car was 924. But before I could get it on the road. The person I bought it from, took a tow truck and stole it back. Still pissed today.

  • @mountain_toast
    @mountain_toast Рік тому +2

    The 924 reminds me of a moving truck I once drove. Its drivetrain matched the frequency of the freeway's expansion joints and it was an extremely rough ride.

  • @DrDiplMed
    @DrDiplMed 2 роки тому

    Great story...thanks. We're the owners of the 1979 924 that PCA Panorama editor Rob Sass drove cross country in late 2017. Even in its coughing and wheezing state when we picked it up, rolling on probably the world's worst tires, it was fun to drive. Looking forward to enjoying it fully when we get more of it sorted. Parts aren't a problem (so far) and it's fairly easy & fun to work on (helps that I grew up working on VW/Audi powertrains & Bosch K-Jet).

  • @toothferrin
    @toothferrin 2 роки тому +27

    Hope this doesn’t cause the prices to go up I’ve been hoping to get my hands on a 924s for a while now.

    • @MrBlaze256
      @MrBlaze256 2 роки тому

      80s mr2 is more fun. Better engine

    • @johnbacon4997
      @johnbacon4997 2 роки тому +5

      Hey mate, there a 924S 5 Speed 1988 year listed on Bring a trailer. NOWS YOUR CHANCE

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 2 роки тому +2

      I've kinda always sorta wanted a 928.
      On paper they sound like the German equivalent of what an American muscle car wants to be.
      v8 rwd, but it handles and stops.
      Yeah they do that now ,but not at the time.

    • @guykerney8650
      @guykerney8650 2 роки тому +1

      Why not get a 944? Basically the same car with better performance

    • @garrisonhaskins3205
      @garrisonhaskins3205 2 роки тому +2

      My parents broke the bank to get one when I was a kid.... sadly my dads not the best about maintenance and now it languishes in the weeds with a broken engine.

  • @fzj8022
    @fzj8022 2 роки тому +5

    I've always loved these because they're parts bin cars. Mixing and matching different parts to really show how good they are together

  • @jehl1963
    @jehl1963 2 роки тому +2

    At 5:06 -- don't be down on Torsion Bars. F1 cars moved from coil springs to torsion bars about 30 years ago, and have never gone back. Torsion bars often have packaging benefits compared to coil springs, not to mention a lower unspring weight. Technically, coil springs and Torsion bars work the same way, the bar is twisted for the springing effect. The only difference is that torsion bars are in a straight line, while coil springs have been wrapped into a coil. The twist effect is the same in both.

  • @RocketVet
    @RocketVet 2 роки тому

    That interior video of the run at the end reminds me so much of my 1986 Thunderbird TurboCoupe I had modified to death. Loved that car. Had it for over 20 years.