This isn’t even the old look this is the revamped old look the 2005-2009 models looks so much better imo they actually look like they were trying to remake the 60s stang and not trying to get to the body style of the new mustang
No because the UA-cam name is now a brand, therefore if you replace the You with Red, it'll end up as every other video streaming page, and people will have a hard time relating UA-cam and RedTube as the same brand. Also it is easily understandable why the Red in RedTube serves as a porn page :P
I really prefer the look and character of the 11-14 GT. The real issue with shifting the MT82 in the S197 wasn't the transmission itself. The stock shift linkage was awful. Replacing that with the MGW linkage fixed 95% of problems, and it felt really solid. I owned a 2012 and a 13. As far as the handling of the 2011-14 GT, I think you're really overstating the issues. That's actually a very good-handling car. Take it on some back roads and thrash it for awhile. You'll start to appreciate just how balanced the chassis is, and how well-sorted that live axle is. Look at the reviews of the car when it was new. The handling was always rated as being very good.
Completely agree. Also Blowfish Racing makes a support bracket that relocates the shifter directly to the MT82. No more getting locked out of 3rd or 5th for me.
Thank you. Lol mine is very predictable. Albeit I upgraded the chassis and haven't touched the motor, but just a panhard bar and a strut tower brace will completely change the car. Stock chassis likes to flex quite a bit.
@@timetofl0at340 I just bought a 2014 California special and zero regrets, granted mines fully loaded with the glass roof but I love it. To me, it’s the last “real” mustang they’ve ever made. Still raw and aggressive but also very comfortable and enjoyable to drive. Far better feel than the 15+ and I’ve driven a few of the new ones multiple times, they don’t give me the same feeling.
The newer one just looks sporty. And for a "muscle" car. I'd prefer it to look like the last ten. 2013 is the sexiest in my opinion. Not hating on the new one. But it looks less muscle-y. Owned a 2015 and loved it.
As a proud owner of a 2011 Mustang GT i can say: its my absolute dreamcar. I want a Mustang since i was a little child, but the Mustangs a not so usual here in Germany. The new Mustang is far to „europe“. Everything is so...german. When i drive my 2011 Mustang around my town, everyone look at it. Its such an unique feeling, and everthing on this car screams „iconic“. When i want to be driven by a car, i sit in my BMW e61. But when i want to drive a car, my Mustang is the choice. Its absolute no match to the „far to european VI-Generation.
Lmao when people say the 2013 and 14 are unpredictable and sloppy and feels like an old muscle car? Yeah that’s exactly why I wanted a 13, I appreciate the technology but I love using my skills when getting on it to keep the car in line. now I appreciate the updated interior for sure but I like the feeling of being on the borderline of out of control.
I drove a live axle Mustang for 14 years. Last year I finally upgraded to the new S550 with the IRS, and I swear I don't feel a difference at all when hitting bumps in the new one that I did in the old one for years. The rear still bunny hops. "Ground Speed" is a nod to the Mustang's inspiration, the P51 Mustang airplane. The GT is quieter because, for the first time, the Mustang is being sold worldwide. They had to meet sound requirements in the various countries they sell it in. I personally like my GT to be quieter. Emulating more proper grand touring cars like Aston Martin and BMW coupes was the best thing to happen to Mustang. I remember reading during development of the S550 the engineering team used a BMW 3 series or 5 series (I forget which) as a general benchmark of where they wanted the Mustang to be. This pony is going to see worldwide sales, it needed broader appeal. I like the more elegant presentation of the S550. Everything about it just feels more upscale and less McDonald's drive through. I think Ford did an amazing job taking Mustang to the next level and I hope it gets better from here. Great video. I really liked it.
Your right for did make the 15 way more upscale. Huge BRAKES n ROTORS on front n back. One price DRIVESHAFT. BUT new bodystyle looking exactly like a BMW?? Why not put those BRAKES n DRIVESHAFT on the great STYLING of the S197 and have the best of both world's? Soldout all old school drivers who loved the STANG for all those years even the love REAL AXLE like you said HANDLES GREAT just like independent SUSPENSION. If you had to change it as well. But for you I'm glad you love YOUR new MUSTANG we are all just looking for FORD to keep us all HAPPY. My 7000 MILE race red 2014 mustang convertible I just bought DRILLED N SLOTTED ROTORS AND stopsn HANDLES AWESOME if I need I'll put a two PISTON CALIPERS and be fine. Had a 12 GT DRIVE THE WHEELS OFF OF IT. TRADED IT IN ON THIS ONE. 14. V6 CONVERTIBLE RAN GREAT BUT NO SOUND. NEVER SELL MY ROUSH AND 14 GT 500 convertible after PAYING this one off. Maybey down the road
Well 2014 was built in 2013 so no a 2015 mustang is the real 50th year Bc they were built and sold in 2014 even tho been of the next year like every other car ever to be produced by any manufacturer lmao
Best looking Mustang (to me) of all time is the 05-09 S197. I think I’m going to find a mint condition 08 or 09 and enjoy it as a driver.....300hp is plenty for my needs. Down the road maybe find another one for a motor swap for speed.
Never knew you did this review. I actually just traded in my s550 ecoboost for a s197 GT because i wasnt more of a fun muscle car. And honestly, the s550 was such an amazing car, but i couldnt be happier with my obnoxious green 5 liter crowd killer 😂
When it comes to the two mustangs I'd prefer the last gen It just looks and feels more like a legitimate muscle car My dream car is a 2005 to 2009 mustang GT Outdated???? yes likely to break down???? Absolutely But that's the car that introduced me to the mustang and I wouldn't get anything else despite how old it is
I feel like everyone is to hard on the live axle. No doubt the IRS is a superior technology with respect to handling. However, I think the less mechanical grib you talk about is more associated with the stock shocks, struts & springs vs the fact that the vehicle has a live axle. The S550 with performance pack has stiffer shocks & struts then the factory s197. I know with my s197, the handling was night & day after I installed shocks, struts & lower springs on it. Just my 2 cents.
+Sean Taylor and if you guys remember. Live Axles on mustangs weren't an issue until car review companies like MotorTrend got ahold of the new camaro and had something to compare it to. People didn't dislike it until another product in the market had something else then everyone hopped on the It's bandwagon.
You're right. Better handling has more to with shocks, struts, springs and other components. Hence why the Boss 302 handles so well out the box. The people that keep pointing to the mustangs live rear axle as if it's the only thing, literally dont know what they're talking about.
+sweetcheels just like everyone was perfectly content with 300hp muscle cars until something came along. The consumer wins when there is competition among firms.
I looked at the 2015 GTs when I was looking to get into a new car, and ended up leaving the dealership with the car that felt, sounded, and drove better to me: a 2013 BOSS 302. Don't regret it for a second. Interestingly, I did so for all the reasons you cited in the video. The Boss is loud, more raw feeling, and I rather enjoy the planted feeling of the live rear. I have owned multiple IRS fast cars in the past and just can't launch them well. In the Boss, that's not a problem. I'm a fan.
My 2017 GT is as "loud and raw" as any other. If you didnt like the 2015 GT you drove at the dealership, it must have been a V6 or ecoboost. They dont have that loud, raw sound, only the V8s do.
Without a doubt, the 2014 looks dramatically better. It's really the last true muscle car Ford's put out. The new ones just look too much like sport cars.
Honestly, I’ve loved the look of every mustang since 2005. The amount of aftermarket and customizing the car to your own liking is amazing. I would honestly want one of each of the past 3 body designs if I could.
I like the look of the 2014 Mustang GT much more than the 15 or 16 GT that looks more like Grampa's Taurus , The interior is much nicer in the new model, The new Mustang is slower 0/60 and 1/4 mile, The new Mustang is not a winner over the 2014, the only thing that is better is the interior, everything else is worse.
funny you mentioned handling, and even with the live axle, the s197 was just as fast as an M3 of the same year. When it comes to Mustangs, Compared to my 2004 Mustang GT, my 2011 feels more like a sports car but compared to the 2016, my 2011 feels more raw and old school. Each has a lot of charisma and that's what makes a Mustang a Mustang. Still the 2016 GT didn't make want to trade in my 2011. If I could afford a GT350 though, I would do so in a heart beat.
sorry I had to head out. Yes seriously, he has not made a video for insurance purposes. When he was doing the Huayra review he let his friend drive her and he crashed. The back end was pretty fucked up. I learned via instagram, but he has since removed the picture for insurance purposes.
Thanks for taking the time to review both. I have driven the 16' and your comparisons are pretty close to my own experiences. You are correct in wanting a manual with the upgraded premium package as it does make the new gen. a "drivers car". I have also driven the base model 14'GT, and comparing that model with my car which has the Premium Track Pack with 3.73 gears, the difference is very noticeable. As easy as it is to get into trouble with the last gen., I have found that with the upgraded suspension, , brakes and gears, being able to throw the car around with predictability, has become a non issue. Now as a side note.... For all of the good natured ribbing we as owners take with the "Insert Crowd Here" as of late, please remember that not all of us are assholes, and respect the power that we have at our control. That being said all you have to do is look at any videos online and you will find examples of idiots in all makes of vehicles, not being able to control their cars. I actually find it disrespectful and NOT helpful to the car culture as a whole. Just like the Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge rivalry that has been going on for decades. Really? It doesn't need to come down to mines better than yours mentality. It should come down to a car culture that is built out of respect for one another, regardless of what you drive. End of rant.
I've got a 2011 GT Premium Brembo Package, with 87k miles, had .3 miles when I bought it. Absolutely love my Mustang. Fun to drive I've addressed the issues mentioned light mods to suspension and engine to make it produce smooth and put it to the ground power. If well maintained and not abused these are great cars. Blessings
I don't know, I'm in the middle of both.. If I land a good deal on one or the other, it's going to be one or the other.. I'm not a floor it everywhere, swing the b**ch sideways kind of guy. I just want something thats gorgeous, sounds good and at least drives halfway decent. See, I'm coming from a third gen Camaro, where handling and performance is more like "let's play a game.." I also have a not so stock 08 Lancer GTS with cartoon like handing and magnetism alloy paddel shifters that are rather fun and very responsive. The very broken in 4B11 equipped jukebox has roughly 200,000 miles on it and has proven to be incredibly loyal despite taking about 7 seconds to get the 60. The Camaro has got to go if I decide to pull the trigger, but it's a bitter pill which I'll explain in a minute.. part of my decisions include how am I going to afford one and will I be forfeiting my chances of getting my own place with my $15/hr and a possible $500+ monthly investment including/not including insurance.. Part of that decision is yes I can technically swing my own place if I put my cards right but the other "bitter pill" part is I'll have to trade off my Genesis. I have about $2,000 in equity in the car on average with another potentially $1500 from the Camaro sale which brings me up to about $3,500 down towards a Mustang. The remaining balance I owe on a Genesis will have to be paid off (about $7,000 or less depending on time) The Genesis is a V8 pumping out a "laid back" 385 herspers, equipped with the eight-speed automatic. Despite the 4 piston disc brakes and a relatively complex multi-link front and rear suspension making it "nimbler" than say a Dodge Charger or a 300 for that matter, it's still a land yacht. Going over dips in the interstate at high speeds will give you the Willies and the feeling of being in a high speed tank disconnected from the road. It's just too soft, but that's what it's build for. It as well has a very muffled exhaust note from the factory, reminding me of a cross between a 4th generation Mustang and a Crown Vic police interceptor.. I mean yeah it's quick as hell but it doesn't look nearly as cool hauling ass off the line.. (or at least what I believe ppl think) All the bells and whistles the car has also creates a hard to pass package especially with it's white satin pearl paint job and winged badges all at the $10,900 purchasing price. Should I just forget about it for now and hang on to the Genesis I very much like the car. Am I just bored, or am I overthinking about it all and should just look into a Mustang?
+SS CygnusX he's talking about how the MT-82 getrag manual transmission is shit and in actuality it is. And the auto has really bad lag in the shifts so yeah basically the car with a manual or an auto from the factory sucks. But a tune on an auto will fix the lag and a new shifter bracket on the manual will be the icing on the cake.
I still prefer by a lot, the S197 over the S550. It has better body lines and looks/feels like a muscle car. The S197 is too European looking, like it’s trying to be an exotic. I’ll never leave the S197 platform.
It says "Ground Speed" because 50 years ago when the mustang was created it was named after the airplane p51 Mustang NOT a horse as everyone believes. So it's a tribute to what it's named after.
ever wonder why the Mustang lights have 6 sections..3 on each side? They represent the 6 .50 caliber machine guns on the P-51. At least that's what I remember reading..google may prove me wrong.
It says ground speed on the speed-o-meter because the Mustang is based of the P-51 Mustang (for those who don't know) so the speed-o-meter is a play of on ground speed and air speed
i was almost buying a 2016 orange performans pack manual mustang gt bro almost dealer try to screw me around and deal didnt go thru hopefully next year its gonna happen totally agree with you new gen mustang blows the old one out of water i was a fan of 13 and 14 till the new one came out
im a 2014 under fan. i dont mind s550s but its not my thing. im a mustang man and in a couple stang clubs in Houston. but s550s are not a big deal for me. and anything 11+ aftermarket wise is pricey. for good parts
in my honest opinion, the mustangs released in the couple years following the most recent body style change (2005) are the best looking. Every year after that it just keeps getting fatter and rounder. I like the more refined look of the 2005 mustang.
I have driven over 10 5.0s from 11-14 and it's a whole different feeling in the clutch and the shifts compared to my 2015 5.0. Everything is more refined
+Imad S manual is always the way to go if you're looking for fun, anyways the paddles seemed quite bad on the newest gen so can't imagine it being better on last gen (if they sell it with option for paddle that is)
***** By all means, nothing wrong with the 11-14 5.0s. Those cars are really great value and will bring you so fun but only only if you get them with 3 pedals. But if you have an opportunity to get a 2015, then drive one and make a choice. Everything is tighter and more quality.
Just for the record, you may or may not have known, but the "GROUND SPEED" on the speedometer is a tribute to the WWII mustang fighter plane. Their speedometers said that.
Buy a used v8 like the a 05-09 or if u wanna spend. Little more money a 11-14. Both are grease and u can get a really nice 05-09 GT manual for under 9k
no don't get a V6 like what this guy tells you, trust me I daily drive a '08 ford mustang v6 manual and I guess it is okay to drive but...ever since I test drove a '15 mustang GT I always get disappointed when I start up my car. Plan on getting a V8 next though
get an 03-04 gt to satisfy your v8 needs. can be paid easily in cash then when you're ready for a 15 gt sell the 03 and use the money as a down payment.
So a 2013 is old? I was just in the garage detailing mine. Still has 7,000 orig miles & never seen rain. At car Shows, I've been asked if it was brought on a trailer? It's a lime green (GHIG) Boss 302 & doesn't seem old 2me?
Why do people not like that it says "Ground Speed"? Its a reference to the P51 Mustang, I think its kind of neat. Oh, and the MT82 in my '16 has been fine. Definitely better than in the last gen.
Well, the 15-16 Mustang is a great car. But if you remove all the badges and ask someone what it is, I think they would be hard pressed to say what it is. It just doesn't look like a Mustang anymore, except maybe for the tail light by some stretch of the imagination. I don't care for the side view. It's bulbous and looks like a sideways teardrop. When I saw the '15, I rushed out and bought a pretty nice '14 while I still could get one pretty fresh. As for the stick rear, a few suspension mods are the answer.
I have a 2013 GT and everything you said is spot on, I drove a 2015 GT when they first came out and walked away thinking it felt too much like BMW than a rugged muscle car. Great car don't get me wrong, but I didn't get that raw feeling like i do with my 2013.
I now have a 17' Camaro SS which has been awesome in every way;) Anyway, I had a 2012 brembo GT manual and a 2015 auto S550 GT with the 3.55 gear. Even thought the S550 is overall better; looking back, I liked/miss the 2012 GT much more..
Ford blew it with the new Mustang - they tried to make it too European in appearance. Rumor has it FMC wanted to raise European sales, so maybe that's why the car looks more refined and sports car-like than in years last.
this is my favorite review of yours. Thanks. I'm on the fence as whether I made the right decision on trading my premium 12 GT for a premium 15 GT. My 12 felt old school muscle. The 15 feels more luxurious. But who knows with the 2018 coming out with the digital gauges the 15 may be the last gen with the nostalgic going on.
Still in love with that "old" look
Me too bro
@@dragster2932 same
This isn’t even the old look this is the revamped old look the 2005-2009 models looks so much better imo they actually look like they were trying to remake the 60s stang and not trying to get to the body style of the new mustang
Do you guys think UA-cam red would have been called red tube if the name wasn't taken
lol funny thought
lol maybe
lel
Just gonna be honest. I'm stealing this comment
No because the UA-cam name is now a brand, therefore if you replace the You with Red, it'll end up as every other video streaming page, and people will have a hard time relating UA-cam and RedTube as the same brand. Also it is easily understandable why the Red in RedTube serves as a porn page :P
I really prefer the look and character of the 11-14 GT. The real issue with shifting the MT82 in the S197 wasn't the transmission itself. The stock shift linkage was awful. Replacing that with the MGW linkage fixed 95% of problems, and it felt really solid. I owned a 2012 and a 13.
As far as the handling of the 2011-14 GT, I think you're really overstating the issues. That's actually a very good-handling car. Take it on some back roads and thrash it for awhile. You'll start to appreciate just how balanced the chassis is, and how well-sorted that live axle is. Look at the reviews of the car when it was new. The handling was always rated as being very good.
Spot on.
Hell yeah bro agreed.
Completely agree.
Also Blowfish Racing makes a support bracket that relocates the shifter directly to the MT82. No more getting locked out of 3rd or 5th for me.
Thank you. Lol mine is very predictable. Albeit I upgraded the chassis and haven't touched the motor, but just a panhard bar and a strut tower brace will completely change the car. Stock chassis likes to flex quite a bit.
MGW Race Spec is the BOMB! Get it!
I think the '14 is by far the most beautiful mustang ever produced. I still have yet to come around to like the '15 & '16s.
@Retro_Afterglow do you regret your purchase? I am choosing between 13 and 15 and it’s killing me
@@fishels3895 same
@@timetofl0at340 I just bought a 2014 California special and zero regrets, granted mines fully loaded with the glass roof but I love it. To me, it’s the last “real” mustang they’ve ever made. Still raw and aggressive but also very comfortable and enjoyable to drive. Far better feel than the 15+ and I’ve driven a few of the new ones multiple times, they don’t give me the same feeling.
@@fishels3895 Go with the 13. Get a Boss 302 if you can. You will not regret it.
I agree
New Mustang tail lights + Old mustang headlights = ultimate.
Ikr, the new front, not a fan
The newer one just looks sporty. And for a "muscle" car. I'd prefer it to look like the last ten. 2013 is the sexiest in my opinion. Not hating on the new one. But it looks less muscle-y. Owned a 2015 and loved it.
Last gen *
dod you sell it or traded it
Mark Converso I like the 2010-12 the most, with the new gen being second. I love the front end of it.
cutthroat795 agreed best body year is 2011 hands down..
Mark Converso I thought the 13 and the 14 were the same?
The 2014 is clearly better looking, the new mustangs don't even look like mustangs
Mike Rinaldi ihave a 16 that gets amazing responses almost daily
But still look amazing
Not As great As 2014 though
Absolutely 100% correct.
Mike Rinaldi you will get use to it
Kevin McMahon didn’t say they didn’t but they don’t look like mustangs
Love the 13/14 exterior yet i love the 15/16 interior man..
same here :(
The 14 looks so much better.
Smitty p
As a proud owner of a 2011 Mustang GT i can say: its my absolute dreamcar. I want a Mustang since i was a little child, but the Mustangs a not so usual here in Germany.
The new Mustang is far to „europe“. Everything is so...german. When i drive my 2011 Mustang around my town, everyone look at it. Its such an unique feeling, and everthing on this car screams „iconic“.
When i want to be driven by a car, i sit in my BMW e61.
But when i want to drive a car, my Mustang is the choice. Its absolute no match to the „far to european VI-Generation.
2015 mustang is a sad excuse for a muscle car... 2014 all the way
you my friend are fucking idiot! the mustang had never been a muscle car and the new mustang is way better then the s197!
braddfordy, you are the fucking idiot, and you're not my friend. Also, please use proper grammar or it makes you seem like a dipshit, lol.
Hahaha, you shouldn't call someone an idiot and then use grammar like a little dipshit kid hahaha priceless.
i agree with u so much.
+AMDFX 99 yeah, the problem is insurance company's consider it a sports car so the rates are crazy
the 2014 mustang looks way more badass and nice imo id rather have that
2014 is probably my favorite Mustang body style. Beautiful!
How's that 5th gear treatin you Eddie?
lol
Savage 😂
I don't get it, can u explain it pls?
3:14
Same i don't understand what exactly happens when a car 'looses a gear'
Which one is better for running over crowds?
the last gen
The '14.
last generation cuz of the independant suspensions.
+moe carter thank you sir
I love mustangs but this comment tho😂
Lmao when people say the 2013 and 14 are unpredictable and sloppy and feels like an old muscle car? Yeah that’s exactly why I wanted a 13, I appreciate the technology but I love using my skills when getting on it to keep the car in line. now I appreciate the updated interior for sure but I like the feeling of being on the borderline of out of control.
Exactly! It's a hotrod! My 2011 GT is a blast, I've put 87k miles on it and it's given me about a million smiles,
so basically,
2014 man's car
2015 girls car lol
No
TRUE
I agree!!
pretty much.
2015 pretty horse
2014 A FUCKING MEAN ASS HORSE
2014 GT500 ftw
Matt WiththeD you don't know mustangs
This guy is actually pretty good at reviews. I like how he speaks clearly and maintains focus while driving. Good job man.
I drove a live axle Mustang for 14 years. Last year I finally upgraded to the new S550 with the IRS, and I swear I don't feel a difference at all when hitting bumps in the new one that I did in the old one for years. The rear still bunny hops.
"Ground Speed" is a nod to the Mustang's inspiration, the P51 Mustang airplane.
The GT is quieter because, for the first time, the Mustang is being sold worldwide. They had to meet sound requirements in the various countries they sell it in. I personally like my GT to be quieter.
Emulating more proper grand touring cars like Aston Martin and BMW coupes was the best thing to happen to Mustang. I remember reading during development of the S550 the engineering team used a BMW 3 series or 5 series (I forget which) as a general benchmark of where they wanted the Mustang to be. This pony is going to see worldwide sales, it needed broader appeal. I like the more elegant presentation of the S550. Everything about it just feels more upscale and less McDonald's drive through. I think Ford did an amazing job taking Mustang to the next level and I hope it gets better from here.
Great video. I really liked it.
Your right for did make the 15 way more upscale. Huge BRAKES n ROTORS on front n back. One price DRIVESHAFT. BUT new bodystyle looking exactly like a BMW?? Why not put those BRAKES n DRIVESHAFT on the great STYLING of the S197 and have the best of both world's? Soldout all old school drivers who loved the STANG for all those years even the love REAL AXLE like you said HANDLES GREAT just like independent SUSPENSION. If you had to change it as well. But for you I'm glad you love YOUR new MUSTANG we are all just looking for FORD to keep us all HAPPY. My 7000 MILE race red 2014 mustang convertible I just bought DRILLED N SLOTTED ROTORS AND stopsn HANDLES AWESOME if I need I'll put a two PISTON CALIPERS and be fine. Had a 12 GT DRIVE THE WHEELS OFF OF IT. TRADED IT IN ON THIS ONE. 14. V6 CONVERTIBLE RAN GREAT BUT NO SOUND. NEVER SELL MY ROUSH AND 14 GT 500 convertible after PAYING this one off. Maybey down the road
new mustang body is like a girl car. i needed more aggressiveness
It's all round. Get a challenger.
Still love the previous gen over the S550
the GT350 or RTR kit for the GT makes it better :)
You must have a vision problem. Go see and eye doctor buddy.
It's like the 2014's older sister.
The tail lights on both models look fantastic!
The headlights on the new one look like Taurus headlights though. Such a turn off for an otherwise great car.
No the older car not better
+billy heaton I think the older looks better.
Matt Campbell i don't i had a 14 GT i liked but sold it and bought a f250 i plan on buying a 16 GT at the end of june
The old one had a huge diaper butt.. New one looks much lower and wider (and better)..
2013-2014 is the best stang ever! Also the 2014 is the real 50th year Mustang! Not that 2015 stang but it's all good!
Well 2014 was built in 2013 so no a 2015 mustang is the real 50th year Bc they were built and sold in 2014 even tho been of the next year like every other car ever to be produced by any manufacturer lmao
last gen was best gen imo.
Yeeeeeeeessssss
i agree with you
Best body style imo
I used to agree the s550 has got it beat tho
But the gt350 is the best mustang of all time
13-14 ftw
2016 front view looks way better imo, but love the shape of the '14
front view on the 16 is amazing and review on the 14 is amazing lol
Karl Karstensyes
Best looking Mustang (to me) of all time is the 05-09 S197. I think I’m going to find a mint condition 08 or 09 and enjoy it as a driver.....300hp is plenty for my needs. Down the road maybe find another one for a motor swap for speed.
agreed, i have an 06 gt with a whipple supercharger. Its fun to drive.
Jedi391 I agree the S197 is the best style. I had a 2006 GT convertible and LOVED it so much. Sadly, a guy smashed into me (totaled).
The old looks better 👌🏼
This channel lacks Audi content... It would be awesome if you did more audi vidz bc I really like your reviews!
We should do some more audis for sure. However if you search we have done quite a few. A3, S4, S5, A7, A8L, R8
Thanks Parker, you're a great dude.
That one audi that had the v10 was amazing. I forget the name but it was a v10 4 door and it was older
Audi S6 (C6)
A6 3.0T Premium Plus (C7)
Please
The 2014 always looked more beefy. The 2016 front looks dull.
Jak Mart no the challenger hellcat looks angry the 2010-14 gt500 looked mean. The new gt stangs do not look mean
@@mopar_runner2284 no one said anything about challengers fanboy
Never knew you did this review. I actually just traded in my s550 ecoboost for a s197 GT because i wasnt more of a fun muscle car. And honestly, the s550 was such an amazing car, but i couldnt be happier with my obnoxious green 5 liter crowd killer 😂
the ground speed thing is a homage to the P51 Mustang (WWII Fighter)
When it comes to the two mustangs I'd prefer the last gen
It just looks and feels more like a legitimate muscle car
My dream car is a 2005 to 2009 mustang GT
Outdated???? yes
likely to break down???? Absolutely
But that's the car that introduced me to the mustang and I wouldn't get anything else despite how old it is
Having fun without annihilating crowds lmao best review
OLD = TRUE MAN CAR
NEW = PICKY MILLENIAL TEENAGER CAR
Fuel Fire Desire what u said wan not what a real man would say
Teenagers aren’t even millennials
My neighbor is 63 years old and he get a 2017 gt. 5.0
Naw I'm a freshman and I've been saving for either the new edges gt or the 2005-2007 mustangs
yea I'll go with the 2014
The 2014 gt has the best rear end of any gt. What were they thinking with the 2016.
"Reoccuring Revenue"
The IRS axle hops like crazy...breaks when you put the power to it.
Spend some more money boyz!
I feel like everyone is to hard on the live axle. No doubt the IRS is a superior technology with respect to handling. However, I think the less mechanical grib you talk about is more associated with the stock shocks, struts & springs vs the fact that the vehicle has a live axle. The S550 with performance pack has stiffer shocks & struts then the factory s197. I know with my s197, the handling was night & day after I installed shocks, struts & lower springs on it. Just my 2 cents.
live axles are only bad on bumpy roads anyway and far better for drag racing, whats "better" really depends on what you want out of the car
Sean Taylor I couldn't agree more.
+Sean Taylor and if you guys remember. Live Axles on mustangs weren't an issue until car review companies like MotorTrend got ahold of the new camaro and had something to compare it to. People didn't dislike it until another product in the market had something else then everyone hopped on the It's bandwagon.
You're right. Better handling has more to with shocks, struts, springs and other components. Hence why the Boss 302 handles so well out the box. The people that keep pointing to the mustangs live rear axle as if it's the only thing, literally dont know what they're talking about.
+sweetcheels just like everyone was perfectly content with 300hp muscle cars until something came along. The consumer wins when there is competition among firms.
anyone else read a comment you disagree with and get sort of hot headed. then immediately realize everyone has different opinion and relax
@Jonah M. "This is UA-cam. You must be new here." Most underrated comment I've ever seen.
I'm interested into buying the new one, how many CPM (crowds per mile) does this thing do?
thank you!
Lol
whos cares about mpg when your driving a v8 lol
anyone else hear the bald eagle screaming merica?
Nope, these are mustangs, not camaros
+Tim Vernak lmao I'm pretty sure the mustang is way more American. they started the muscle/pony car wars anyway soooooo.
+Matt Campbell The started the pony car.. GTO and Chevelle were the true start of muscle cars. But the vette still rules them all.
+Ishliss2012 the vettes not a muscle car
I looked at the 2015 GTs when I was looking to get into a new car, and ended up leaving the dealership with the car that felt, sounded, and drove better to me: a 2013 BOSS 302. Don't regret it for a second. Interestingly, I did so for all the reasons you cited in the video. The Boss is loud, more raw feeling, and I rather enjoy the planted feeling of the live rear. I have owned multiple IRS fast cars in the past and just can't launch them well. In the Boss, that's not a problem. I'm a fan.
My 2017 GT is as "loud and raw" as any other. If you didnt like the 2015 GT you drove at the dealership, it must have been a V6 or ecoboost. They dont have that loud, raw sound, only the V8s do.
@@steverobertson1729 If you've never heard a BOSS302, I could see how you might have that opinion. Stock for stock, there's no comparison, sorry.
2014 all day long.
Without a doubt, the 2014 looks dramatically better. It's really the last true muscle car Ford's put out. The new ones just look too much like sport cars.
I like the new Stang. Camaro not so much.
The reason no one was killed in this video was because there was no crouds
right, crowds.
Idiot. Go back to school and learn to spell.
Great vid man! Just picked up a 2015 with the perf pack and stick thanks to this vid.
Honestly, I’ve loved the look of every mustang since 2005. The amount of aftermarket and customizing the car to your own liking is amazing. I would honestly want one of each of the past 3 body designs if I could.
I like the look of the 2014 Mustang GT much more than the 15 or 16 GT that looks more like Grampa's Taurus , The interior is much nicer in the new model, The new Mustang is slower 0/60 and 1/4 mile, The new Mustang is not a winner over the 2014, the only thing that is better is the interior, everything else is worse.
funny you mentioned handling, and even with the live axle, the s197 was just as fast as an M3 of the same year. When it comes to Mustangs, Compared to my 2004 Mustang GT, my 2011 feels more like a sports car but compared to the 2016, my 2011 feels more raw and old school. Each has a lot of charisma and that's what makes a Mustang a Mustang. Still the 2016 GT didn't make want to trade in my 2011. If I could afford a GT350 though, I would do so in a heart beat.
From what i heard the reason why the new GT's are quiet is because of the European market
WTF man that's a fucking lie
+billy heaton hey i said thats what i heard. Never said i was right
+billy heaton actually since the mustang is a world car now it does have to meet all restrictions world wide!
braddfordy And that's not why either lol
Then why is it then?
there's only one mustang, fox chassis 79-04. it sits you high and forward to shift. 05-16 sits you like an old f-body
*does super badass burnout, video about mustangs*
*plays some soft acoustic guitar music*
Dave Mustaine oh Dave are you drunk again??
Dam 5th view. Love the vid Keep it up! also hopefully good news on candice soon to come
Thank you! I hope so too
what happened to her we haven't seen her in forever
+Phil H crashed
+Lamp__Post wait seriously how come he didn't make a video and what happened and how do u know
sorry I had to head out. Yes seriously, he has not made a video for insurance purposes. When he was doing the Huayra review he let his friend drive her and he crashed. The back end was pretty fucked up. I learned via instagram, but he has since removed the picture for insurance purposes.
Once you upgrade the exhaust, it shoots bald eagles out the tailppipe
the 2010 4.6 sounds meaner than the 5.0
Thanks for taking the time to review both. I have driven the 16' and your comparisons are pretty close to my own experiences. You are correct in wanting a manual with the upgraded premium package as it does make the new gen. a "drivers car". I have also driven the base model 14'GT, and comparing that model with my car which has the Premium Track Pack with 3.73 gears, the difference is very noticeable. As easy as it is to get into trouble with the last gen., I have found that with the upgraded suspension, , brakes and gears, being able to throw the car around with predictability, has become a non issue.
Now as a side note....
For all of the good natured ribbing we as owners take with the "Insert Crowd Here" as of late, please remember that not all of us are assholes, and respect the power that we have at our control. That being said all you have to do is look at any videos online and you will find examples of idiots in all makes of vehicles, not being able to control their cars. I actually find it disrespectful and NOT helpful to the car culture as a whole. Just like the Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge rivalry that has been going on for decades. Really? It doesn't need to come down to mines better than yours mentality. It should come down to a car culture that is built out of respect for one another, regardless of what you drive. End of rant.
Can't believe you said that the s197 didn't handle well....
I've got a 2011 GT Premium Brembo Package, with 87k miles, had .3 miles when I bought it. Absolutely love my Mustang. Fun to drive I've addressed the issues mentioned light mods to suspension and engine to make it produce smooth and put it to the ground power. If well maintained and not abused these are great cars. Blessings
You are way to picky dude, Lets see you make a better car.
The new one will still annihilate crowds just the same 😂
I don't know, I'm in the middle of both.. If I land a good deal on one or the other, it's going to be one or the other..
I'm not a floor it everywhere, swing the b**ch sideways kind of guy.
I just want something thats gorgeous, sounds good and at least drives halfway decent.
See, I'm coming from a third gen Camaro, where handling and performance is more like "let's play a game.."
I also have a not so stock 08 Lancer GTS with cartoon like handing and magnetism alloy paddel shifters that are rather fun and very responsive. The very broken in 4B11 equipped jukebox has roughly 200,000 miles on it and has proven to be incredibly loyal despite taking about 7 seconds to get the 60.
The Camaro has got to go if I decide to pull the trigger, but it's a bitter pill which I'll explain in a minute.. part of my decisions include how am I going to afford one and will I be forfeiting my chances of getting my own place with my $15/hr and a possible $500+ monthly investment including/not including insurance..
Part of that decision is yes I can technically swing my own place if I put my cards right but the other "bitter pill" part is I'll have to trade off my Genesis.
I have about $2,000 in equity in the car on average with another potentially $1500 from the Camaro sale which brings me up to about $3,500 down towards a Mustang. The remaining balance I owe on a Genesis will have to be paid off (about $7,000 or less depending on time)
The Genesis is a V8 pumping out a "laid back" 385 herspers, equipped with the eight-speed automatic. Despite the 4 piston disc brakes and a relatively complex multi-link front and rear suspension making it "nimbler" than say a Dodge Charger or a 300 for that matter, it's still a land yacht. Going over dips in the interstate at high speeds will give you the Willies and the feeling of being in a high speed tank disconnected from the road. It's just too soft, but that's what it's build for.
It as well has a very muffled exhaust note from the factory, reminding me of a cross between a 4th generation Mustang and a Crown Vic police interceptor.. I mean yeah it's quick as hell but it doesn't look nearly as cool hauling ass off the line.. (or at least what I believe ppl think)
All the bells and whistles the car has also creates a hard to pass package especially with it's white satin pearl paint job and winged badges all at the $10,900 purchasing price.
Should I just forget about it for now and hang on to the Genesis I very much like the car. Am I just bored, or am I overthinking about it all and should just look into a Mustang?
so the auto is shit and the manual is shit, why buy the car?
Because racecar
manual is shit?? what are you ? a gay?
+SS CygnusX he's talking about how the MT-82 getrag manual transmission is shit and in actuality it is. And the auto has really bad lag in the shifts so yeah basically the car with a manual or an auto from the factory sucks. But a tune on an auto will fix the lag and a new shifter bracket on the manual will be the icing on the cake.
GKWunder awe
2014 looks aggressive and much more badass than the 2015.
i still prefer the old one :) :)
I still prefer by a lot, the S197 over the S550. It has better body lines and looks/feels like a muscle car. The S197 is too European looking, like it’s trying to be an exotic. I’ll never leave the S197 platform.
I love my 2012 5.0. Nice video man 👍🏻
It says "Ground Speed" because 50 years ago when the mustang was created it was named after the airplane p51 Mustang NOT a horse as everyone believes. So it's a tribute to what it's named after.
ever wonder why the Mustang lights have 6 sections..3 on each side? They represent the 6 .50 caliber machine guns on the P-51. At least that's what I remember reading..google may prove me wrong.
Then why is the logo a horse
2013 looks a lot nicer and more American
I had one, didnt like it but it looked cool
AudioSlave Mustang wasn't a muscle car anymore when they ditched the live axle
Sean Kosari 2014 GT 500 is what im after
AudioSlave good choice!
It says ground speed on the speed-o-meter because the Mustang is based of the P-51 Mustang (for those who don't know) so the speed-o-meter is a play of on ground speed and air speed
Do a 5th gen vs 6th gen Camaro SS
Evvvvverybody complains about the "Ground Speed." It's because of the car's history with the P-51 Mustang.
Ford needs to put a Tremec 6-speed in their Mustangs.
They do in the GT350 but yeah they need to put em in GT's too.
Ikr!
Tom Parry
Slash The Saiyanhog
Nah. The only thing better about the s550 interior is that it's softer. Vents are all round (wow), toggles replace buttons (oh my), and that's it.
Hey Parker!
hey!
+Vehicle Virgins ayy 😀
Ay.
If the 2014 had the interior of a 2015+ , I’d make the decision to go 2014 in a heartbeat .
5th gen for muscle , 6th gen for sport
Fuck no! The 15 is way better in every single way! And I wanted a 14 before,:
i was almost buying a 2016 orange performans pack manual mustang gt bro almost
dealer try to screw me around and deal didnt go thru hopefully next year its gonna happen totally agree with you
new gen mustang blows the old one out of water i was a fan of 13 and 14 till the new one came out
Actually I was about to buy a 2015 new that the dealer trying to move for 37k Canadian such a good dead was yellow though lol
actually both the 2014 and 2015 are pieces of shit. Wait hold on.....actually the past models for 50 years are all cheap pieces of shit.
Your UA-cam username is quite comical then.
stang
your username is flat out embarrassing. MUST be a kid. No doubt.
im a 2014 under fan. i dont mind s550s but its not my thing. im a mustang man and in a couple stang clubs in Houston. but s550s are not a big deal for me. and anything 11+ aftermarket wise is pricey. for good parts
Old is better imo
in my honest opinion, the mustangs released in the couple years following the most recent body style change (2005) are the best looking. Every year after that it just keeps getting fatter and rounder. I like the more refined look of the 2005 mustang.
I have driven over 10 5.0s from 11-14 and it's a whole different feeling in the clutch and the shifts compared to my 2015 5.0. Everything is more refined
Would you recommend buying a used 11-14 GT with a stick? If so what should I look out for? Seems like you're the perfect guy to ask lol
+Imad S manual is always the way to go if you're looking for fun, anyways the paddles seemed quite bad on the newest gen so can't imagine it being better on last gen (if they sell it with option for paddle that is)
Fearzzy That is mostly the case (except for some DCT cars) but I was asking him because the stick has notorious issues
***** i don't think there is a DCT that is more fun than manuals, that has to be a very special car
***** By all means, nothing wrong with the 11-14 5.0s. Those cars are really great value and will bring you so fun but only only if you get them with 3 pedals. But if you have an opportunity to get a 2015, then drive one and make a choice. Everything is tighter and more quality.
Just for the record, you may or may not have known, but the "GROUND SPEED" on the speedometer is a tribute to the WWII mustang fighter plane. Their speedometers said that.
I'm tempted to finance a mustang, but I only make minimum wage =(
Buy a used v8 like the a 05-09 or if u wanna spend. Little more money a 11-14. Both are grease and u can get a really nice 05-09 GT manual for under 9k
might as well go head and get a newer v6 at that point, better looking car and same hp
no don't get a V6 like what this guy tells you, trust me I daily drive a '08 ford mustang v6 manual and I guess it is okay to drive but...ever since I test drove a '15 mustang GT I always get disappointed when I start up my car. Plan on getting a V8 next though
get an 03-04 gt to satisfy your v8 needs. can be paid easily in cash then when you're ready for a 15 gt sell the 03 and use the money as a down payment.
Fuck the v6
So a 2013 is old? I was just in the garage detailing mine. Still has 7,000 orig miles & never seen rain. At car Shows, I've been asked if it was brought on a trailer? It's a lime green (GHIG) Boss 302 & doesn't seem old 2me?
I have a 2012 Boss 302 with 117k miles. It is an awesome car.
GT350>S197>S550
I don't like the base S550 but the GT350 is my favorite mustang.
XxLevegencexX yes... someone had to say it.
Why do people not like that it says "Ground Speed"? Its a reference to the P51 Mustang, I think its kind of neat.
Oh, and the MT82 in my '16 has been fine. Definitely better than in the last gen.
Scary? 5:24 Maybe you should stick to the Fiesta.
Well, the 15-16 Mustang is a great car. But if you remove all the badges and ask someone what it is, I think they would be hard pressed to say what it is. It just doesn't look like a Mustang anymore, except maybe for the tail light by some stretch of the imagination. I don't care for the side view. It's bulbous and looks like a sideways teardrop.
When I saw the '15, I rushed out and bought a pretty nice '14 while I still could get one pretty fresh. As for the stick rear, a few suspension mods are the answer.
I have a 2013 GT and everything you said is spot on, I drove a 2015 GT when they first came out and walked away thinking it felt too much like BMW than a rugged muscle car. Great car don't get me wrong, but I didn't get that raw feeling like i do with my 2013.
same guy that fell in love with the 2013 over the 2014. no problem though, ii have a bias as i have the 2014 v8
where is Eddie?
in jail. it was a car show accident
he killed everyone works at his mustang dealer
Gosia Samosia
The 13-14 looks more muscular. The 15 on up to date has a smaller back which makes it look smushed!
id take the "old" any day over the new so ugly
I now have a 17' Camaro SS which has been awesome in every way;)
Anyway, I had a 2012 brembo GT manual and a 2015 auto S550 GT with the 3.55 gear. Even thought the S550 is overall better; looking back, I liked/miss the 2012 GT much more..
Old mustang looks like an american muscle car should look like. New mustang looks like a coupe version of the ford fusion. To each their own!
Ford blew it with the new Mustang - they tried to make it too European in appearance. Rumor has it FMC wanted to raise European sales, so maybe that's why the car looks more refined and sports car-like than in years last.
this is my favorite review of yours. Thanks. I'm on the fence as whether I made the right decision on trading my premium 12 GT for a premium 15 GT. My 12 felt old school muscle. The 15 feels more luxurious. But who knows with the 2018 coming out with the digital gauges the 15 may be the last gen with the nostalgic going on.
2015: ford fusion cupe
2014:stang
I'd take the 2014 by a long shot.
2014 is way better.