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  • @tcgnmore2803
    @tcgnmore2803 Рік тому +18

    Its crazy looking back at this video as i was present when this happend. Miss these crazy battles in Laguna

  • @imitane
    @imitane 7 років тому +82

    I'm kinda blown away that people keep saying the bump is Jan's fault. Slow the video to .25 speed and watch the porsche's nose dip at 0:15 and see the gap close instantly. He brake checked hard at a point in the corner that he probably could've/should've been accelerating out. Jan also brakes hard to try avoiding contact, but at those speeds it's probably impossible to avoid. Joerg tried blocking by every "legal" way, including the brake check, it didn't work so he drove Jan into the wall.

    • @Stribogboi
      @Stribogboi 5 років тому +2

      Closing the gap isnt illegal.

    • @Itz_Worm
      @Itz_Worm 5 років тому +7

      @@josephgoldeyii8595 You're delusional if you're denying that he brake checked Jan. Watch the video at 0.25 speed and it's pretty obvious.

    • @Stribogboi
      @Stribogboi 5 років тому +9

      @@Itz_Worm that's called weight transfer... You load the front wheels for more traction. Read a racing book.

    • @tanoooo
      @tanoooo 4 роки тому +5

      Will Goldey yeah but you have to admit he purposely drove Mag into the wall

    • @mohata605
      @mohata605 4 роки тому

      He has the right to brake as hard as he wants to before the apex

  • @gutjos
    @gutjos 12 років тому +20

    What a trooper! One of the best deivers of ALMS.

  • @nasser.alkenani
    @nasser.alkenani 5 років тому +50

    Bergmeister did not like it when Jaime Melo drove him to the wall at Sebring in 2007 but he did the same thing here.

    • @csm2455
      @csm2455 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah tbh if it’s anyone fault it’s the AlMs official’s fault, they deemed Melo’s move fair so that Bergmeisters completely entitled to do the same here.

    • @nasser.alkenani
      @nasser.alkenani 3 роки тому +4

      @@csm2455 IMSA officials said back then "it was a good hard racing".

    • @Jeffcatbuckeye
      @Jeffcatbuckeye Рік тому

      @@csm2455couldn’t have said it better myself. Bergmeister got on the straight, and immediately said “not this time”.

  • @jackprick9797
    @jackprick9797 5 років тому +21

    Magnussen is a hell of a driver! Great racing!

    • @baninanerne8513
      @baninanerne8513 2 роки тому +1

      the f1 driver or the GT driver?

    • @bzdtemp
      @bzdtemp 2 роки тому +1

      @@baninanerne8513 Both - if Kevin is given the right car he will win. Just look at how well he does at the starts and restarts - as long he isn't flagged unfairly that is.

  • @motorsportracer97
    @motorsportracer97 11 років тому +8

    One of the biggest battle in ALMS history, awesome racing in the last 10 minutes.

  • @Buran288gto
    @Buran288gto 11 років тому +185

    How can people still be in doubt about this, even now with one of the drivers giving an explanation, people still have doubts as to what happend!? Bergmeister saw the win slip away and crashed Magnussen, period, the end.

    • @spectraleggings
      @spectraleggings 10 років тому +21

      BS. The only reason it was slipping away was the tag at the last corner. Btw it also happened to Bergmeister in 2007 Sebring. Period, end. Jesus what a vainglorious fanboy...

    • @leaboy2
      @leaboy2 9 років тому +11

      Jesper Møller If Mag is a better driver, then why was he behind the Porche???????? Had to bump him to make him lose traction. Only thing is, it backfired on his ass. Good for him.

    • @ricky3698
      @ricky3698 9 років тому +41

      +leaboy2 you must have not seen the full race. The Porsche was forcing the Vette off the line into the dirt more than once. A little bump here and there is racing.

    • @gregglutton2890
      @gregglutton2890 7 років тому +1

      Jan was also hitting Jorg a few times in the laps previous, the guys were going all out.
      I can understand why Jorg went straight to the wall but I don't think those guys were racing as gentlemen and I think it gave us the most exciting 4 laps of the season.

    • @barrybadrinath2453
      @barrybadrinath2453 7 років тому +2

      Did you not see the bump mag gave berg lol

  • @AlistairMcKinley
    @AlistairMcKinley 11 місяців тому +6

    Wow! What a great character he has! No single bad word towards Bergmeister.

  • @gprime70
    @gprime70 4 роки тому +11

    Been trying to find something like this, thanks for the share. Was so curious to find out what happened to him afterwards

  • @alexandervanwyk7669
    @alexandervanwyk7669 6 років тому +41

    Magnussen, Bergmeister, this was an insane battle, one of the best I've seen for a long time. You guys rock. What the hell did they do with the vettes lately?

  • @alexrex20
    @alexrex20 11 років тому +42

    i think both sides were playing a little dirty, but no more so than the other. magnussen did bump bergmeister, but bergmeister clearly checked up in the hairpin in what i'm assuming was an attempt to slow down magnussen and put him off line. it's clear though, that the corvette was much, much quicker.

    • @PepperoniGaming
      @PepperoniGaming 6 років тому +33

      You can see berg mash the brakes intentionally at the corner exit (the suspension squats) and Mag hits the brakes and barely touches him; IMO Mag wasn't doing anything overly dirty

    • @davidjohnson7917
      @davidjohnson7917 Рік тому

      Yep, that's a "both sides" case.

    • @michaelmueller9635
      @michaelmueller9635 19 днів тому

      Vette wasn't quicker because it got second position.

  • @aukanmeister
    @aukanmeister 2 роки тому +1

    Fun, spectacular and very exciting!

  • @beyincigickarlmskus5186
    @beyincigickarlmskus5186 3 роки тому +5

    Here after watching 2021 Austrian GP

  • @MLeeder53
    @MLeeder53 12 років тому +13

    wait he broke ribs? lol some news to me! Jans the man!

  • @andrewgillis8572
    @andrewgillis8572 8 років тому +52

    no matter the bump and run, that could be protested - what Bergmeister then chose to do invalidates the win - surprirsed he was awarded it

    • @mp3_Martin
      @mp3_Martin 8 років тому

      andrew gillis agreed!

    • @andrewgillis8572
      @andrewgillis8572 8 років тому +1

      magbussen was urt worse than I thought - but yep he thought of skidding across for the win, first - this cat also drove the hell out of the Panoz LMP 1 - making him one of the great V8 sports car drivers ibncl the 3 Vette versions he\'s now run

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 6 років тому +6

      Couldn't agree more. What he did in response is so much worse that you cannot possibly give him the win.

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 місяці тому

      If bumps are allowed… then crashes should be… bumping someone to make them slower mid corner is undead “cheating” it’s crazy officials deemed bumping in this race as “legal” bumping is road raging and dangerous

    • @michaelmueller9635
      @michaelmueller9635 19 днів тому

      Vette is just to stupid to drive.

  • @sammyal1352
    @sammyal1352 5 років тому +1

    Where are the onboards? Pretty sure we all want to see what happened!

  • @softhotty
    @softhotty 3 роки тому

    That was a battle...awesome !

  • @TheNoni14
    @TheNoni14 12 років тому +1

    i know i cant put the dots on there with the computer.

  • @picsnics32
    @picsnics32 12 років тому +6

    Did the Porche get a penalty because I think he should've for over reacting from the Vette just bumping him a little bit.

    • @n3xt214
      @n3xt214 4 роки тому +1

      Alexandre Dufour the vette driver, was aware of GT3. But he didn’t notice he suddenly brake. The GT3 was overreacting beacuse. It’s just small bumping. He crashed it. Get it? Small bumps and make vette crashed? Big difference you know. Not great moves by Porch team

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 місяці тому

      Blame the officials 😂they allowed bumping, so crashing ain’t that bad either
      Also if you gotta bump someone to win, be prepared to lose it all when he obviously crashes you because of what you did KARMA

  • @dude2106
    @dude2106 12 років тому +5

    No way. No matter how slow he was there was no way he had to let him go by.
    He slows him down and controls his pace, but that is how you defend against faster cars. Its called good defensive driving.
    If Magnussen couldn't get by its his problem. Overtaking by bumping other cars out of the way is not the proper way to do it. Bergmeister drove him straight into the wall, and that of cause shouldn't happen, but don't tell me that Magnussen didn't ask for it.

  • @alexrex20
    @alexrex20 11 років тому +7

    i don't think i would call it cheap, dirty racing. just hard racing. i also don't think magnusson has any ill feelings towards bergmeister for this incident. they both agree, it was a racing incident which ended unfortunately for the corvette.

  • @JojoTheMongol
    @JojoTheMongol 12 років тому +4

    I don't understand slowing in a corner to stop someone from passing you.

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 місяці тому

      It’s called “closing the door” all race car fans know this what’s crazy is the officials deemed “bumping people out of the way” as perfectly legal when it’s infact a cheap cheater move , every one and their mother knows bumping your way to victory in a race is CHEATING

  • @handoru9497
    @handoru9497 Місяць тому

    ive watched this 4 times today on 3 different channels bruh

  • @Atlanticmantic
    @Atlanticmantic 14 годин тому

    Bumping, blocking, break checking is racing but pitting another driver is just dirty. He knew he was there and kept just smashing him into the wall and STILL got passed. When as soon as the Vettes back tires got past the front tires of the Porsche he should have stopped squeezing him as THAT is what lead to the Corvette getting pitted. Would have been even better had the Vette spun out and was PUSHED accross the line sideways in front of the Porsche. THAT would have been the craziest and BEST ending ever.

  • @Lenoch_
    @Lenoch_ 12 років тому +1

    Not what do to do. Be fair, be safe and let people by on the track AND the road!

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 місяці тому

      Exactly and bumping someone on last turn! KARMA !! ❤

  • @gorillapimping
    @gorillapimping Рік тому

    Mag should have pulled the initial d move and turned off the lights coming out of the last turn and ghost around him

  • @Rinzler971
    @Rinzler971 10 років тому +48

    To me Magnussen win the race in all perspective.

    • @barrybadrinath2453
      @barrybadrinath2453 7 років тому +2

      OD971 how he bumped berg to make him lose traction on top of the corner cutting he did

    • @Michael_Shoemaker
      @Michael_Shoemaker 6 років тому +4

      He was forced off the line into the dirt one lap earlier.

    • @fastpadder
      @fastpadder 5 років тому

      OD971 no, just nope

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 місяці тому

      @@Michael_Shoemakerwrong he actually dove on the outside and tried to cut off the 911

  • @Ramon_Samaches
    @Ramon_Samaches 4 роки тому +3

    You can get a Magnussen out of a Magnussen but not a Magnussen out of a Magnussen - Charles LeHülkenlonso

    • @AKK5I
      @AKK5I Рік тому +1

      Award for the most unsportive driver

  • @dlc85007
    @dlc85007 29 днів тому +1

    If you ain't first, your last

  • @first_ones_free6556
    @first_ones_free6556 Рік тому

    I love these drivers. "Ya i just couldnt get it , so we totalled my car. Pretty unfortunate. Not my money so were getting a few pints after this". happy 10 year

  • @JorgeRodriguez-nt8mg
    @JorgeRodriguez-nt8mg 5 років тому +6

    All the comments: HUGE MAGNUSSEN FAN but even I know what a bump can do!!!!
    Lmao. Magnussen was the better driver, but he didn’t deserve that win, I think the defensive driving from the Porsche was brilliant. My only displeasure was the fact he had to push him into the wall, all that amazing driving tarnished by poor sportsmanship

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 місяці тому

      But he had to push him, just like you stated that bump made the Porsche super slow, slow enough for the vette to win, it boils down to a be vette cheating at the last second so the 911 did the same and crashed him “all is fair in love and war”

    • @generalmcarthur8401
      @generalmcarthur8401 Місяць тому

      @@mojojoji5493 Mate he brake tested him, can see the front suspension ducking hard, a bit after the apex usually when youd let go off the brakes fully and start with the throttle. Its just that the porsche didnt expect the vette to power through like that so he fucked him over.

  • @ExperienceMultilap
    @ExperienceMultilap 4 роки тому

    Gentlemen driver RIP long time ago

  • @leonardojose6545
    @leonardojose6545 Рік тому

    explendid corrida magnussem covert 3 go go go go

  • @koshile3794
    @koshile3794 Місяць тому

    Slide late, and took it like a champ.

  • @TommusDee
    @TommusDee 4 місяці тому

    Couple of bones broken.....''But i still came 2nd'' the mentality!

  • @csm2455
    @csm2455 6 років тому +6

    Burgmeister just squeezes him. Its been done thousands of times in racing and it will be done thousands of times again. Burgmeisters had it done to him plenty of times. Its even been done to him against a concrete wall on the home straight racing for the checkered flag.
    Incidentally, he's not a mad man and braked to avoid the wall.

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 6 років тому +1

      He didn't squeeze him you fucking idiot, he put him in the wall.

    • @tanoooo
      @tanoooo 4 роки тому +1

      csm that isnt a squeeze, he literally drove him to the wall until he was scraping it you can even see his intentions on the exit of the corner but no he couldnt be a fair sport and decide to risk someones life for a race win which means nothing compared to a life if i was Burgmeister i would've squeeze Magnussen yes but not to the point of him touching the wall i'd leave him some space

    • @csm2455
      @csm2455 4 роки тому

      SRX Swiftless Melo vs Burgmeister; Burgmeister leads going to last corner, Melo bumps him and then plays chicken with the concrete barrier so Burgmeister has to pull out. Disagree as much as you want but that was no different to this, and it was deemed fair.

    • @tanoooo
      @tanoooo 4 роки тому +3

      csm so you think driving someone into a wall risking there life just to win a race is fair? thats not right

    • @csm2455
      @csm2455 4 роки тому

      SRX Swiftless lol Magnussen was the one willing to take the crash for a potential win, he even states that in the interview. Burgmeister cuts across at the start but leaves space for Magnussen, the thing is that home straight isn’t actually straight it bends and so the space that Magnussen had quickly disappears and so he hits the barrier and bounces infront of Burgmeister and then into the wall. Magnussen’s not innocent, he chose to push into a closing gap and take the crash, which is why he was also penalised for the crash.

  • @Zalonka
    @Zalonka 11 років тому +3

    They both got a warning. You obviously don't understand that "bump" makes you lose the race on the finishing straight. To clarify I'm a big magnussen fan yet even I understand that BUMP makes you lose your run on the straight away allowing the vette to get a better run with a result to win.

    • @luka5208
      @luka5208 5 років тому +2

      I'm a big magnussen fan

  • @Stribogboi
    @Stribogboi 5 років тому +1

    To the people saying he brake checked him: it's called weight transfer... You load the front wheels for better cornering. Read a racing book. I recommend Vic Elford.

    • @IlConteSky
      @IlConteSky 5 років тому +5

      Dan ledouche, Fitting nickname
      Wonder why that Porsche never had the need to """load the front wheels""" losing a car length like that in the previous, like, entirety of the race prior to that. Maybe you should read less books, your fantasy is gone wild.

    • @Stribogboi
      @Stribogboi 5 років тому

      @@IlConteSky uh oh chevy guy got triggered.

    • @aviciilebron88
      @aviciilebron88 5 років тому +5

      @@IlConteSky Hahaha pretty much exactly what I wanted to answer. Exactly the "weightshifting" is bullshit, he never did it once before. He did it because he knew Magnussen was going to hit him and loose the momentum out of the turn. That didn't go as planned so he just drove him off the track out of desperation.
      @dan ledouche no one got triggered, you are just wrong.

  • @carlitoxb110
    @carlitoxb110 6 років тому

    best finish I've ever seen

  • @jacks.4325
    @jacks.4325 4 роки тому +2

    The corvette should've pitted the porsche.

  • @Stribogboi
    @Stribogboi 5 років тому +2

    Porsche closed the gap... Same as any other driver would have done. The corvette took a chance and paid the price.

  • @ta26532
    @ta26532 3 роки тому +1

    Could of gained horsepower by turning off the lights on the corvette

  • @MattDiffey
    @MattDiffey 12 років тому +3

    Magnussen had room to just stay where he was; after first pushing him to the wall Bergmeister basically drives in a straight line. Magnussen is fighting though and sees that he can win by basically knocking the light front of the Porsche out as soon as he starts to edge ahead, but he mistimes it and goes too soon. He just floored it when the back started to go and went into the wall. He admits it himself in the video

  • @griesrt
    @griesrt 2 дні тому

    still got 2nd

  • @minglingli7097
    @minglingli7097 14 днів тому

    At first i was like a magnussen ? Could he be related to Kevin, the second i saw his face i was like he’s def Kevin’s dad hahahaha

  • @jorgedr5835
    @jorgedr5835 5 років тому +1

    The bump is intentionally caused by the Porsche driver, by doing that he don't let the vette turn from inside at a reasonable speed and take over him exiting a lot faster from the curve. Not happy with that he try another less ortodox maneuver.

  • @avrracer4175
    @avrracer4175 16 днів тому

    Magnussen erzähl kein Müll zum Schluss wolltest du rechts rüber ziehen nur hat Bergmeister gebremst und du hast doch selbst vor den Porsche geschoben

  • @szymoniak75
    @szymoniak75 18 днів тому

    looked up this bergmeister guy and yup his face confirms he would do something like this

  • @psychlops924
    @psychlops924 2 роки тому

    Wait, there wasn’t a penalty?

    • @davidjohnson7917
      @davidjohnson7917 Рік тому

      No penalty but both drivers were handed a 2-race suspension the next year

  • @haifluegelmo6027
    @haifluegelmo6027 6 місяців тому

    Diese Aktion war das Allerletzte !!! 🤛👊

  • @TheNoni14
    @TheNoni14 12 років тому +1

    its JORG not BORG. check your sources, it really helps credibility. FLYING LIZARDS FOR LIFE

  • @stoptryingtousemyrealname
    @stoptryingtousemyrealname 9 років тому +46

    When you've got the slower car, just run them into the wall. Typical Porsche driver.

    • @HoU4x217
      @HoU4x217 9 років тому +6

      stoptryingtousemyrealname lol nice troll xD

    • @anotherprofile7954
      @anotherprofile7954 6 років тому +2

      stoptryingtousemyrealname stfu you corvette suckin fanboy...the 911 alone has more racing history than all american cars combined, hence it's the best racing car with the most titles...

    • @meltered441
      @meltered441 6 років тому +3

      sup //\\ doesn't change the fact driving someone to the wall is a dick move

    • @Stribogboi
      @Stribogboi 5 років тому +1

      Closing the gap isn't a dick move. It's racing strategy so stop being a butthurt fanboy.

    • @asiancairrou6232
      @asiancairrou6232 3 роки тому +1

      @@Stribogboi go try this at a sim or a real race. Closing the gap isnt illegal but this is barely closing a gap and just driving the guy into the wall

  • @nw6932
    @nw6932 29 днів тому +1

    that's so dirty from the porsche, they deserve a DNF/DQ

  • @toadamine
    @toadamine 7 років тому +5

    You won, pit out is part of the track, if it isn't then pitting is cheating.

    • @sergioserrano4167
      @sergioserrano4167 6 років тому +9

      It is illegal to cross the pit exit line for, you know, saftey reasons.

    • @jess_o
      @jess_o Рік тому

      Its not too late to delete this comment

    • @toadamine
      @toadamine Рік тому

      @@jess_o you're too late to ever win, race ended 5 years ago... hahaha

    • @jess_o
      @jess_o Рік тому

      @@toadamine As I said

    • @toadamine
      @toadamine Рік тому

      @@jess_o you seem to understand how youtube works, congratulations, but I'm not gonna delete it... I leave them just for people like you. 😁👍

  • @mignav464
    @mignav464 6 місяців тому

    The Magnussens have a history of being troublemakers when racing it seems.

  • @JojoTheMongol
    @JojoTheMongol 12 років тому

    Oh and crazy to keep your foor in it while sliding across the track.

  • @jollyomeatLA
    @jollyomeatLA 4 роки тому +1

    00:42 to 1:12 all I'm hearing is a cover up lies for "I dive-bombed him for a last chance win". Pathetic to lie.

  • @asaruson
    @asaruson 3 роки тому +4

    bergmeister should have lost his license for this. degusting and intentional. I would have banned him from racing for life.

  • @roadracett2853
    @roadracett2853 Рік тому

    Das war ein geiler fight, rennsport vom feinsten was aber am ende durch diese unsportliche aktion meiner meinung nach kaputt gemacht wurde!
    Fahrer die sowas machen sollten ein leben lang für rennsport gesperrt werden!

  • @Zalonka
    @Zalonka 11 років тому +2

    Yes he did otherwise Magnussen would have won lol... I'm a huge Magnussen fan yet even I know this. When you bump someone going into a corner they lose traction and lose their corner exit launch basically. Meanwhile Magnussen gets a pretty solid launch besides the bit of speed he lost when he made contact with the Porsche. They both know exactly what they did. Magnussen just wasn't betting on Berg finally reacting back after a season of being pushed around by his Vette.

    • @luka5208
      @luka5208 5 років тому +2

      I'm a big magnussen fan

  • @sam72952
    @sam72952 11 років тому +2

    Magnussen did bump him but come on if your right on someones tail and you stop all of a sudden what do you expect? The fault is 50 50 but bergmeister didn't have to push him all the way to the wall. Dick move really.

    • @alexandredufour7358
      @alexandredufour7358 5 років тому

      Dude magnussen got what he deserve on this with the high beam the cut off track the bump i would have done the same exept after the race i would have broke his other unbroke ribs. He is the dick

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 9 днів тому

    DQ that dirty Porsche.

  • @M-28xD
    @M-28xD 7 років тому +4

    There is no justification for Magnuson. The person in the front has the right of the way whether he slows down or close the inside line is up to him and he has a right to do that which is called Defensive Driving. It's your responsibility to drive according to the person in front of you.

    • @badmpg
      @badmpg 6 років тому +3

      K9-1000
      Yeah he has the right to do that and he clearly brake checked him....that is why he over slowed on the final turn on the last lap of the race.

  • @bb3xhrhj
    @bb3xhrhj 12 років тому

    Jan > Joerg > Jan > Joerg.. who am i kidding.

  • @Zalonka
    @Zalonka 11 років тому +2

    You don't understand racing. I'm a HUGE magnussen fan ok and what magnessun did was make him lose that straight away by bumping him. Bergmeister was sick of getting his car bumped around to lose the race like previous races that season. He was also shoved off the track by Magnussen earlier during this race.
    Bump me off the track once boo on me. Try to bump me twice boo on you.

    • @luka5208
      @luka5208 5 років тому +1

      I'm a big magnussen fan

  • @YouTubeAuditor1
    @YouTubeAuditor1 17 днів тому

    Rubbing is racing. Crashing is not. Bergmeister is a chump.

  • @MattDiffey
    @MattDiffey 12 років тому +3

    Did you watch the race? Magnussen was cheating the whole way through, driving like an ass. And if you watch carefully, bergmeister never turned into magnussen just before the crash; they were neck and neck and bumping, and because the vette has no weight at the back because of the engine layout and because Magnussen was being way too aggressive in fighting Bergmeister, when they bumped when magnussen was pulling ahead, it just span round.

  • @nicolassanchez8318
    @nicolassanchez8318 15 днів тому

    Bergmeister is a crap driver for this and should have been DQ. Jan Magnussen did not deserve that.

  • @ElGoogKO
    @ElGoogKO 5 місяців тому

    100% deserved by the corvette driver

  • @hashslingingslabber859
    @hashslingingslabber859 2 місяці тому

    It’s amazing how many people just make claims and come to conclusions without watching anything.
    I - who had never seen this video, spent 3 minutes going and finding the 2009 video.
    Watched it.
    And it’s clear as day that the Porsche intentionally slowed down more than he had to on the first turn causing the vette to tap his rear end.
    The vette than goes for the pass, the Porsche drives him half away across the track to the left until the vette is less than a couple feet from the wall.
    The vette is nearly passed him but the Porsche spins him out intentionally but pushing his rear wheel tire.
    Was 100% an intentional crash by the Porsche driver.

    • @Wassup1005
      @Wassup1005 17 днів тому

      the assumption that vette fucked up the exit of the porsche was because of bergmeister losing traction on the exit

  • @asdf2593
    @asdf2593 2 роки тому

    big wrinkly heads run in the family