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One oldie but goldie is Fallout Tactics. Simply love that game. No idea, why it never got a remake.... Also to mention are Vigilantes and UFO - Afterlight and UFO - Aftershock. Not the usual turn-based but pretty great for that time.
Some more good ones: Classified: France '44, Wartales, Hard West 1/2, Fort Triumph, Invisible Inc., Stirring Abyss, King Arthur: Knight's Tale Encased, UnderRail, ATOM RPG, The Lamplighters League, Wantless, The Iron Oath.
thanks mate, if i may, The last spell,The Dungeon Of Naheulbeuk: The Amulet Of Chaos, rebel cops, reverse colapse,Urtuk: The Desolation, banner of the maid,triangle strategy ,chroma squad, fae tactics, regalia and fell seal.
Fans of Xenonauts who don't already know can be pointed to Xenonauts 2 which is currently in early access. It's shaping up to be a great sequel and still sits firmly in the OG X-COM/UFO style.
Although very different in style (2D chibi) Reverse Collapse Code Name Bakery is a great game for any XCOM fan, i strongly recommend it, dont let the looks of the game fool you, it is a rough challenge thru and thru
A bit different approach, but interesting is Frozen Synapse. A turn based tactical game with high detail level of control over the individuals. It has minimalistic graphics, but a great soundtrack, deep tactics, a campaign with story missions, duel multiplayer mode, and difficult to master. PS: Part Two also released as successor. Notably there are not so many players available in Multiplayer.
If what attracts you to these games is clever combat systems, marvels midnight suns is a genuine masterpiece in that regard. One of the very best combat systems ever designed.
Its amazing how many of these xcomlike lists completly gloss over expeditions rome, which is a banger of a game: great gameplay, excellent voice and music, stunning visuals, replayability....
One thing I don't like about a lot of these XCOM clones is that you and the enemy have too much health. I love XCOM because of how sphincter-clenching each encounter is. One shot could mean the difference between life and death. You can one-shot a lot of enemies, even in late game, but they can also do the same to you. It puts a greater emphasis on positioning and planning out your order of actions. Meanwhile in other XCOM-likes, I can get shot up to three or four times and still be alive.
Capes has a LOT going against it. Played the demo back before learning about certain things tied to it, but even back then it felt bitter, cliche and uninspired. There was a lack of creativity from the utility of powers (am in a Mutants and Masterminds server, every single person there could be more creative with those powers, no exaggeration) down to the name of ‘The Company’. Hope he didn’t give it a look.
Mutant year zero was fun for awhile then it got to hard. I ended up in a mandatory fight that I couldn't beat and couldn't back out of due to using a single save file, never played it again.
some luv for Trouble shooters its a amazing game , i just wish it had some sort of randomization to play it again ... also in the TBS tactics i highly recommend Cyber knights and rogue police both missing from this list.
@@alukata9763 drop rates for all legends were significantly boosted before i finished the game a while back.and they added some ultra high end crafting if you want to farm components.
@@TheAzureGhost figured. Was just wondering about OP talking about lack of randomization. Equipment drops and some mobs are randomized if i remember correctly... i've been grinding starlight junction a lot during early access when it was highest mission.
@@alukata9763 I think they ment randomization in the mission structure so youdon't play the same fights with only slight enemy changes again in the next playthrough.
The problem with most of these is that it just isn't the same. Personally want a more exotic theme, where you're constantly researching new, high-tech/otherworldly equipment to improve your soldiers gear and efficiency of your base (plus customising your troops appearance and abillities), it's what made the Xcom reboot and 2 so memorable, that you DID need to improve your arsenal if you ever hoped to stand a chance. Xenonauts 2 does this well, Chimera Squad still has the Xcom feel even if it's more of a 'hero turn-based strategy' and Battletech requires you to build superior mechs with superior loadouts from what you can salvage, so reckon those are probably some of the best. Phoenix Point feels like a missed opportunity, Mechanicus is great but considering what the Tech Prieses and their forces are, you're not technically researching so much as being given permission to field superior units/use better equipment and advancing your various Magos through the ranks. And while I'm sure Daemonhunters is a great game, beyond the levelling system there doesn't feel like you can do much in the way of equipment, though admittedly I never got too far into the game so could be entirely wrong.
A lot of critics seem to boil XCom down to just the "tactical layer", but, as @Lord_Numpty points out, it's not just that. In fact, the thing that really makes XCom "shine" more than all of the other tactics games is that it is comprised of several multi-layered systems, all of which blend seamlessly with each other and really give you a genuine feeling of managing a huge, sprawling enterprise, all of which can crumble if you make the wrong call, have a bad mission, or mess up the timing on a rumor/resource drop--because everything is connected. There's resource gathering/management, base and facility building, technology research and reverse engineering, item/tech building and upgrading, covert mission and reward management, soldier perk/skill development, squad composition development and planning, geo-scape "triaging" and selection of items/rumors/continent bonuses to pursue, area contact and radio tower building/supply income management, dark event countering, retaliation and guerilla op "timing", soldier bond management, weapon mods, shivs, sparks, mec troopers, gene mods, etc. ... all of which is punctuated by a crazy variety of procedurally driven tactical battles/missions ... which, in truth, are the intermittent tactical engagements that all the other stuff "funnels down into". And that's just the vanilla game. With mods, XCom EU/EW and XCom2 WoTC are still unsurpassed "gems" in the gaming industry, largely because they're so immersive, both intellectually and cinematically. It's worth noting that, in the XCom series, the story isn't overbearing as it is in many other games, which is a "genius move" that allows the player/commander to create the story as they play. This is why the player gets attached to their soldiers. The story serves as a backdrop, but the immersive management, cinematic battles, and high stakes "drive" toward the end game is what keeps the player fully invested. There's no contrived, heavy-handed narrative telling you what you should or shouldn't do beyond the handful of story missions/encounters that move the narrative forward: it's completely up to you whether you save humanity or fail, and how you do it--what time you take, what strategy you employ, etc.--is wide open.
One problem i see in this subgenre is that it turned out to be even more repetitive and unoriginal than the mainstream rpg genres, that also became repetitive and unoriginal overall. And among the creative games, Troubleshooter seems to be (because i never played it) just a small thing, and Valkyria is the biggest game but the company doesn't care anymore. So it's a tragic subgenre.
Right. I want to include one more game that was not in the list, which understandable as the game was yet to release globally but soon enough will released on December 3rd. Girl's Frontline 2: Exilium is a 3D turn-based strategy Gacha game, developed by MICA team and Sunborn. The game is a sequel to the original Girl's Frontline, taking place years after the events of the original game. You will play is the commander, leading your squad of T-dolls, android girls that were designed for warfare. The game will be released on December 3rd 2024 on IOS, Android and PC. Just to add that tread carefully to those who joining the Gacha hell. The game do have some nice review, but again, tread carefully.
Good compilation. I’ve played several of these games. I see Troubleshooter is highly regarded but I don’t like the Anime style aesthetic. Those twerpy bland faces with the big eyes and barely a nose.
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thank you for considering Troubleshooter this is probably one of the most underrated strategy games i've ever had the pleasure to play
Troubleshooter certainly deserves the #1 spot on the list.
Nice to see it getting some attention. I love Troubleshooter.
Agree, its sooo overlooked by western scene
One oldie but goldie is Fallout Tactics. Simply love that game. No idea, why it never got a remake.... Also to mention are Vigilantes and UFO - Afterlight and UFO - Aftershock. Not the usual turn-based but pretty great for that time.
Thank you. Was going to say the same thing. Love you can get a tank in Tactics.
Some more good ones:
Classified: France '44, Wartales, Hard West 1/2, Fort Triumph, Invisible Inc., Stirring Abyss, King Arthur: Knight's Tale
Encased, UnderRail, ATOM RPG, The Lamplighters League, Wantless, The Iron Oath.
thanks mate, if i may, The last spell,The Dungeon Of Naheulbeuk: The Amulet Of Chaos, rebel cops, reverse colapse,Urtuk: The Desolation, banner of the maid,triangle strategy ,chroma squad, fae tactics, regalia and fell seal.
Troubleshooter is such an underrated game ! its Fantastic and you see the love for the game by the devs.
Love seeing Troubleshooter at #1! Such a great game.
Troubleshooter not only mentioned, but on number one: THATS A GOOD LIST!
Valkyria Chronicles is a classic but VC 4 is even better imo.
At least a must olay for those who enjoyed the first one.
Actual banger list! All my absolute favourites are here!
Rogue Trader should also be in the tops of this list tho
Fans of Xenonauts who don't already know can be pointed to Xenonauts 2 which is currently in early access. It's shaping up to be a great sequel and still sits firmly in the OG X-COM/UFO style.
Great selection! Othercide is definitely my favorite on the list. Hard West 2 should be mantioned as well, I loved it.
Although very different in style (2D chibi) Reverse Collapse Code Name Bakery is a great game for any XCOM fan, i strongly recommend it, dont let the looks of the game fool you, it is a rough challenge thru and thru
Had a great time with that game. One of my favorites this year.
A bit different approach, but interesting is Frozen Synapse. A turn based tactical game with high detail level of control over the individuals. It has minimalistic graphics, but a great soundtrack, deep tactics, a campaign with story missions, duel multiplayer mode, and difficult to master.
PS: Part Two also released as successor. Notably there are not so many players available in Multiplayer.
If what attracts you to these games is clever combat systems, marvels midnight suns is a genuine masterpiece in that regard. One of the very best combat systems ever designed.
Valkyria Chronicles is quite old now but an amazing game
i love phantom doctrine, hope they making more like the game
Hmm, I own all but 2 of these (both from your bonus list), and those two are just waiting for a steam sale. Seems I agree with your list.
to me one of the best games not on the list is Mordheim: City of the Damned. Brutally difficult and unforgiving but very fun
Overwatch system is cool
That's an amazing list!
I've ben looking for something like this some time ago, now i found your video, thanks for sharing 👍🏼
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing how all these lists have the same games. No one mentions King Arthur: Knights Tale yet somehow Gears Tactics makes it on every time.
Have all games that was mentioned but Chaos Gate is best IMO + Rogue Trader.
Its amazing how many of these xcomlike lists completly gloss over expeditions rome, which is a banger of a game: great gameplay, excellent voice and music, stunning visuals, replayability....
fantastic game.
Gr8 video! Finaly someone who promised "xcom like" and delivered exactly this type o content 🤩
Also good is King Arthur: Knight's Tale
One thing I don't like about a lot of these XCOM clones is that you and the enemy have too much health. I love XCOM because of how sphincter-clenching each encounter is. One shot could mean the difference between life and death. You can one-shot a lot of enemies, even in late game, but they can also do the same to you. It puts a greater emphasis on positioning and planning out your order of actions. Meanwhile in other XCOM-likes, I can get shot up to three or four times and still be alive.
great recomendations, thanks
Glad you enjoyed!
Shout out to all my squad mates who own at least half of this list.
The Lamplighters League is pretty much xcom expirience and i dont know why its not in the list (liked mcuh more than phantom doctrine)
Not on the list but I really enjoyed "Showgunners" if anyone needs another title to check out.
phoenix point is an awesome especially after the last update that added a lot of free content and options.
also is the mod terror from the void, its like his own long war
Symphony of war. When you put a game in the video and never mentioned its name 😂 turns out I didn't know about it, score is high too
Unicorn overlord idk if its in this genre its pretty solid and im working on. Getting the platinum for it
14:41 what game is this?
Miasma Chronicles
@@JoelRPG Thanks fam
You forgot:
Last Train Home
Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
Hard West 2
Classified France 44
Show Gunners
Xcom is the game where 95% means a random number between 50 and 100%
Wouldn't the shadow run games count?
Hey Joel, great video! I wasn’t a big fan of it, but did you also check out Capes?
Capes has a LOT going against it. Played the demo back before learning about certain things tied to it, but even back then it felt bitter, cliche and uninspired. There was a lack of creativity from the utility of powers (am in a Mutants and Masterminds server, every single person there could be more creative with those powers, no exaggeration) down to the name of ‘The Company’. Hope he didn’t give it a look.
I see so many bad reviews of it.
Forgotten but Unbroken is good one too.
So you placed Wasteland 3 in the main list, but Shadowrun and Colony Ship in bonus while all 3 are CRPGs. Why?
Mutant year zero was fun for awhile then it got to hard. I ended up in a mandatory fight that I couldn't beat and couldn't back out of due to using a single save file, never played it again.
Redemption Reapers is the game its simple raw and awsome buy it
you forgot shadow tactics blades of the shogun
Troubleshooter No.1 for me
some luv for Trouble shooters its a amazing game , i just wish it had some sort of randomization to play it again ... also in the TBS tactics i highly recommend Cyber knights and rogue police both missing from this list.
Are legendary items (like Ryo's sword and armor, when you encounter him the first time) garantueed drops now?
@@alukata9763 drop rates for all legends were significantly boosted before i finished the game a while back.and they added some ultra high end crafting if you want to farm components.
@@alukata9763 not that i'm aware of, but you can replay story missions through the archive too in order to farm such special encounter enemies.
@@TheAzureGhost figured. Was just wondering about OP talking about lack of randomization.
Equipment drops and some mobs are randomized if i remember correctly...
i've been grinding starlight junction a lot during early access when it was highest mission.
@@alukata9763 I think they ment randomization in the mission structure so youdon't play the same fights with only slight enemy changes again in the next playthrough.
The original Chaos Gate from 1999.
The problem with most of these is that it just isn't the same. Personally want a more exotic theme, where you're constantly researching new, high-tech/otherworldly equipment to improve your soldiers gear and efficiency of your base (plus customising your troops appearance and abillities), it's what made the Xcom reboot and 2 so memorable, that you DID need to improve your arsenal if you ever hoped to stand a chance. Xenonauts 2 does this well, Chimera Squad still has the Xcom feel even if it's more of a 'hero turn-based strategy' and Battletech requires you to build superior mechs with superior loadouts from what you can salvage, so reckon those are probably some of the best.
Phoenix Point feels like a missed opportunity, Mechanicus is great but considering what the Tech Prieses and their forces are, you're not technically researching so much as being given permission to field superior units/use better equipment and advancing your various Magos through the ranks. And while I'm sure Daemonhunters is a great game, beyond the levelling system there doesn't feel like you can do much in the way of equipment, though admittedly I never got too far into the game so could be entirely wrong.
A lot of critics seem to boil XCom down to just the "tactical layer", but, as @Lord_Numpty points out, it's not just that. In fact, the thing that really makes XCom "shine" more than all of the other tactics games is that it is comprised of several multi-layered systems, all of which blend seamlessly with each other and really give you a genuine feeling of managing a huge, sprawling enterprise, all of which can crumble if you make the wrong call, have a bad mission, or mess up the timing on a rumor/resource drop--because everything is connected.
There's resource gathering/management, base and facility building, technology research and reverse engineering, item/tech building and upgrading, covert mission and reward management, soldier perk/skill development, squad composition development and planning, geo-scape "triaging" and selection of items/rumors/continent bonuses to pursue, area contact and radio tower building/supply income management, dark event countering, retaliation and guerilla op "timing", soldier bond management, weapon mods, shivs, sparks, mec troopers, gene mods, etc. ... all of which is punctuated by a crazy variety of procedurally driven tactical battles/missions ... which, in truth, are the intermittent tactical engagements that all the other stuff "funnels down into". And that's just the vanilla game. With mods, XCom EU/EW and XCom2 WoTC are still unsurpassed "gems" in the gaming industry, largely because they're so immersive, both intellectually and cinematically.
It's worth noting that, in the XCom series, the story isn't overbearing as it is in many other games, which is a "genius move" that allows the player/commander to create the story as they play. This is why the player gets attached to their soldiers. The story serves as a backdrop, but the immersive management, cinematic battles, and high stakes "drive" toward the end game is what keeps the player fully invested. There's no contrived, heavy-handed narrative telling you what you should or shouldn't do beyond the handful of story missions/encounters that move the narrative forward: it's completely up to you whether you save humanity or fail, and how you do it--what time you take, what strategy you employ, etc.--is wide open.
Hmmm, more Reverse Collapse: Code Name Bakery is required.
Not XCOM, but it will do: Into the Breach.
Missma is hard
I wish for a new shadowrun for soo long now :/
One problem i see in this subgenre is that it turned out to be even more repetitive and unoriginal than the mainstream rpg genres, that also became repetitive and unoriginal overall. And among the creative games, Troubleshooter seems to be (because i never played it) just a small thing, and Valkyria is the biggest game but the company doesn't care anymore. So it's a tragic subgenre.
where game: "ShowGunners"?????!!!!!
Girls Frontline 2 ^^
Again .... The same video over and over again ... Smart ass 😂
Right. I want to include one more game that was not in the list, which understandable as the game was yet to release globally but soon enough will released on December 3rd.
Girl's Frontline 2: Exilium is a 3D turn-based strategy Gacha game, developed by MICA team and Sunborn. The game is a sequel to the original Girl's Frontline, taking place years after the events of the original game. You will play is the commander, leading your squad of T-dolls, android girls that were designed for warfare. The game will be released on December 3rd 2024 on IOS, Android and PC.
Just to add that tread carefully to those who joining the Gacha hell. The game do have some nice review, but again, tread carefully.
Good compilation. I’ve played several of these games. I see Troubleshooter is highly regarded but I don’t like the Anime style aesthetic. Those twerpy bland faces with the big eyes and barely a nose.
Try ufoai
Divinity: original sin 2
Love turn based games, I hated Xcom, Fire emblem series is the true boss of turn based.
Thank you!
*first*
why are the majority of these gun wielding sci fi or futiristic, turn based is best with fantasy and magic
lol. rogue trader is not even on the list, but all other shitty 40k games are there
Every single one of them are trash.
Cap. There's at least 5 good ones there
Youre entitled to your own stupid opinion
Disagree but still funny😂
How very constructive🙄
Go play D4
is Xenonauts entry counts the sequel game that came out recently??? and is Valkyria Chronicles also counts the 4th game too?