I also had a rly bad customer service experience with Bren tune…probably the worst in a while and they wouldn’t apologize. SLR has been amazing their tune is better!
Taking my 22 to the Dyno next weekend, with the same exhaust and mods. I was advised against installing the BT velocity stacks (or any really) due to the possibility of losing a bit of midrange power. I might go with the Alpha Racing stacks at some point though just to do a comparison.
I put their stack on my 22, waste of money! They are aluminum but they are identical to the stock ones! Same shape everything just not rubber no waybtheu make 7hp!
@@jasonisdn yes! In January with the temp around 50 degrees, I put down 200. On a different dyno in May with the temp at around 85 degrees, I put down 185.
My 2017 S1000RR baselined at 178 whp and 82 ft lbs. Bt moto and full exhaust was 203 whp and 87 ft lbs My 2020 S1000RR baseline at 194 whp and 84 ft lbs. Bt moto stage 2 made 202 whp and 86 ft lbs My 21 S1000XR made 163 whp and 84 ft lbs stock. I added Akrapovic headers and power jumped to 167 whp and 87 ft lbs (mid range was 12 whp gain). I am scared to pick up my 2024 S1000RR, as it seems like they are underpowered. On the same dyno, someone with stage 2, velocity stacks and full system made 193 whp. I think i might back out
I noticed Bren mostly gets ride of the horrible power restrictions in low range rpm, especially that horrible second gear restriction.My 23 s1k dynoed 184 hp with bren. Woolich just released the tunes for the 22-24 S1Ks and i highly recommend a custom dyno flash/tune. I see upper 190s to 200 WHP
@@jasonisdn I only have have experience with the stage 1 bren on my 23 S1k. Bren is a must have if you're looking to get rid of the restrictions in the low to mid RPM range (especially second gear I gained tremendous HP around 6k), up top not so much. The difference between the stock map and stage 1 Bren is 4 HP at 13.5k on my bike. I highly recommend getting a custom dyno tune (instead of a mail in) if you're looking to get the most out of your bike and assure its running properly. The custom tune gained horsepower over the entire RPM range and roughly 15 peak.
Yeah I had his tune on my 18, my 23 and my 24 I am looking into Woolich now and do it myself, with their wideband of course. Smooth is more important that the highest numbers. Coming out of a turn on lean and adding throttle, I want it to be linear as possible with the throttle lol.
I've been dealing with BrenTuning for 6 years. If you're not getting what you expect, you can make an appointment with them when you are able to be at a dyno and they will help fine tine the bike especially the AFR to get the most out of the tune. 🤷🏻♂️
Hey man we chatted a few months ago. My 23 got 195hp on BT Stage 2. You're right where you should be HP wise. At 194hp that bike is fast and will smash 99% of the bikes on the street. The 23 s1k is bad ass man.
@@FlexFastgeneral Japanese bikes are fairly restrictive from the factory. They really wake up with a tune and bolt-ons. Cost of ownership over European counterparts is huge too. Unless you have that coin, it adds up quickly.
Hi, I don't understand what is going on with your bike. I have a 21 with the btune, stacks, intake temp, sprint air filter and a akro pipe. My bike makes 205 and over 70 ftlbs from 4 to 14,000...Is that pipe that bad??? I don't get it.
My brother and i have identical 22 s1000rr he has bt tunes i have slr tunes we weight the same +- 5lbs and no matter what speed we start from or a dig i beat him by several bikes. People think bt is god and its inflated theor head a bit...
I noticed you took the racefit muffler off and replaced it Austin racing? Any reason for that? I’m only asking bc I have a racefit growler on my ‘22 s1k
When I ordered my Austin Racing exhaust the wait time was 8-10 months. In the mean while I purchased the akro header and race fit slip on as my temporary exhaust until my Austin racing exhaust arrived. To be honest I prefer the race fit setup. The sound was amazing. Super high pitched.
i think people from Us experience massive differences since S1000RR 23 are limited power on Us market but the Eu ones don't .So yes , BT works for US BIKES but for Eu ones is waste of money
I did a baseline of the bike to show the tune I purchased, but I did nothing. Which is why I stated all the mods in the video. There are plenty of stock dyno videos on YT showing you stock numbers.
You are not the only one to have a bad experience with ringtone I had a bad experience with Brent tool on my S 1000 are they suck the customer service suck? Don't pick them up because they are not factually a good toning company. There are better ones out there and the customer service. Really, really sucked to this day. They have not rectified what they did for me. And they still wouldn't even talk to me to fix it and they. Are really a bad tuning company
what year is your bike and what issues did you have or having? stage 1 or stage 2? I am trying to determine if I should go with SLR or Brent for my 2024 S1000RR
Wow this is crazy !! Sucks that you have to spend the money and not get what you paid for ! Glad you got some good numbers in with SoCal !!
I also had a rly bad customer service experience with Bren tune…probably the worst in a while and they wouldn’t apologize. SLR has been amazing their tune is better!
Other than the customer service how is SLR better? Can you explain? Thank you
@@Farhan.DucatiS1kcustome tune over a ots map.
@@Farhan.DucatiS1kfor about $500 less.
Chris Moore better
These informations are awesome, TY
Taking my 22 to the Dyno next weekend, with the same exhaust and mods. I was advised against installing the BT velocity stacks (or any really) due to the possibility of losing a bit of midrange power. I might go with the Alpha Racing stacks at some point though just to do a comparison.
I put their stack on my 22, waste of money! They are aluminum but they are identical to the stock ones! Same shape everything just not rubber no waybtheu make 7hp!
Did you make it to the Dyno?
@@jasonisdn yes! In January with the temp around 50 degrees, I put down 200. On a different dyno in May with the temp at around 85 degrees, I put down 185.
Have you try caritas motorsports from Miami worth to take a look
My 2017 S1000RR baselined at 178 whp and 82 ft lbs. Bt moto and full exhaust was 203 whp and 87 ft lbs
My 2020 S1000RR baseline at 194 whp and 84 ft lbs. Bt moto stage 2 made 202 whp and 86 ft lbs
My 21 S1000XR made 163 whp and 84 ft lbs stock. I added Akrapovic headers and power jumped to 167 whp and 87 ft lbs (mid range was 12 whp gain).
I am scared to pick up my 2024 S1000RR, as it seems like they are underpowered. On the same dyno, someone with stage 2, velocity stacks and full system made 193 whp.
I think i might back out
I noticed Bren mostly gets ride of the horrible power restrictions in low range rpm, especially that horrible second gear restriction.My 23 s1k dynoed 184 hp with bren. Woolich just released the tunes for the 22-24 S1Ks and i highly recommend a custom dyno flash/tune. I see upper 190s to 200 WHP
Share more please, I was looking at some of their kits and I have access to a Dyno for free lol.
@@jasonisdn I only have have experience with the stage 1 bren on my 23 S1k. Bren is a must have if you're looking to get rid of the restrictions in the low to mid RPM range (especially second gear I gained tremendous HP around 6k), up top not so much. The difference between the stock map and stage 1 Bren is 4 HP at 13.5k on my bike. I highly recommend getting a custom dyno tune (instead of a mail in) if you're looking to get the most out of your bike and assure its running properly. The custom tune gained horsepower over the entire RPM range and roughly 15 peak.
Yeah I had his tune on my 18, my 23 and my 24 I am looking into Woolich now and do it myself, with their wideband of course. Smooth is more important that the highest numbers. Coming out of a turn on lean and adding throttle, I want it to be linear as possible with the throttle lol.
I've been dealing with BrenTuning for 6 years. If you're not getting what you expect, you can make an appointment with them when you are able to be at a dyno and they will help fine tine the bike especially the AFR to get the most out of the tune. 🤷🏻♂️
Hey man we chatted a few months ago.
My 23 got 195hp on BT Stage 2. You're right where you should be HP wise. At 194hp that bike is fast and will smash 99% of the bikes on the street. The 23 s1k is bad ass man.
What modification did you have? Where did you dyno it at?
@thatonegt3904 the complete stage 2 BT.
actually I'll post a video of a race
My 23 r1 puts down 191 to the wheel. Dynoed by bauce racing. No wonder it's a bmw bully
I’m not a straight line racer. But my gen5 zx10r walks on modern S1krr’s. Shifting/downshifting kill times are flawless.
JS
@@FlexFastgeneral Japanese bikes are fairly restrictive from the factory. They really wake up with a tune and bolt-ons. Cost of ownership over European counterparts is huge too. Unless you have that coin, it adds up quickly.
Hi, I don't understand what is going on with your bike. I have a 21 with the btune, stacks, intake temp, sprint air filter and a akro pipe. My bike makes 205 and over 70 ftlbs from 4 to 14,000...Is that pipe that bad??? I don't get it.
So wait, did you get a custom dyno tune or just the SLR tune? Slr is mail order just like BT afaik
I can't believe with Stage 2 Brent with full exhaust you only got 1-2 hp gains. I am kind of shocked.
@thatonegt where did you buy the rear sliders , Im trying to find something for mine 🙏
I got 173 wheel on my bren tune with a 2021 xr stage 2. That doesnt even have shift cam.
For me bt is awsome and bike is insanly fast and i only have stage 1 and full exaust on it
SLR-TUNING
S l r has a better customer service and their tools really work
My brother and i have identical 22 s1000rr he has bt tunes i have slr tunes we weight the same +- 5lbs and no matter what speed we start from or a dig i beat him by several bikes. People think bt is god and its inflated theor head a bit...
Why not SLR? You don’t need stages either them and frank has been doing it forever..
What kind of tank pads are those?
Nice info. Can you tell us where you got your tank grips from?
those looks like Techspec. In my experience over priced and very slippery
Awesome
What's that big red thing you have on the back of your bike ? Juste a change from the oem passenger pegs ?
Some kind of stunt pegs, if he's not stunting on that bike it makes him look like a poser that he probably is.
Now wish is good for tuning clr or bren for more power hp , my bike bmw S1000RR 2017 i want to flash what i is worth it
My clr tunes 22 beats bt tunes bikes every time
is Socal Superbikes and SLR same ?
I noticed you took the racefit muffler off and replaced it Austin racing? Any reason for that? I’m only asking bc I have a racefit growler on my ‘22 s1k
When I ordered my Austin Racing exhaust the wait time was 8-10 months. In the mean while I purchased the akro header and race fit slip on as my temporary exhaust until my Austin racing exhaust arrived. To be honest I prefer the race fit setup. The sound was amazing. Super high pitched.
@@thatonegt3904 hey brother give caritas motorsports a look something is if they tuner is cheaper and puts more pawer
What company did you get the rear passenger footpegs from
Impaktechusa, he owns the company.
SLR would take off all the restrictions?
Yes
Wouldn't you have to return the entire system to stock to make it accurate?
The hand held device allows you to go back to your stock OEM flash. Which is what we did.
This, it will adapt for headers so this is not an accurate comparison. He should have dynoed it stock
i think people from Us experience massive differences since S1000RR 23 are limited power on Us market but the Eu ones don't .So yes , BT works for US BIKES but for Eu ones is waste of money
Bren Tuning has the WORST customer service 🤣 I know experience may vary but at the very least inconsistent.
SK1 racing on Australia
Never could i even if i was rich. 5k. Neverrrrrrr. 😂 i guess im broke spiritually 😅
the math aint mathin
How could you do a baseline with a full exhaust?
I did a baseline of the bike to show the tune I purchased, but I did nothing. Which is why I stated all the mods in the video. There are plenty of stock dyno videos on YT showing you stock numbers.
bro it sucks that you guys only get 189 to 190hp in states cause of your shitty fuel. While in australia we get roughly 210hp
Noooooo
Mom egg
You are not the only one to have a bad experience with ringtone I had a bad experience with Brent tool on my S 1000 are they suck the customer service suck? Don't pick them up because they are not factually a good toning company. There are better ones out there and the customer service. Really, really sucked to this day. They have not rectified what they did for me. And they still wouldn't even talk to me to fix it and they. Are really a bad tuning company
what year is your bike and what issues did you have or having? stage 1 or stage 2? I am trying to determine if I should go with SLR or Brent for my 2024 S1000RR
@@Farhan.DucatiS1kslr for sure
Chris Moore better