How Much POWER does BrenTuning Flash REALLY Make?
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Nick's K67 BMW S1000RR has an SC Project slip on exhaust, but other than that, it is stock on the power front.
So, how much power can we gain with a simple BrenTuning Stage 1 flash?!
That's what we're looking into today.
The first run is to measure the current WHP with STOCK tuning and the SC Project slip on. Once we have that number, then we'll be flashing the ECU with the BrenTuning Stage 1 ECU Flash, and running the bike on the dyno again the very same day!
How much power will we gain? The results are actually really surprising!
What we can say is that the BrenTuning ECU Flash may definitely be the best bang for buck power mod :)
BrenTuning ECU Flash - tinyurl.com/yeyv9x3t
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NRC Fender Eliminator Kit - tinyurl.com/mw8rk9t3
S1000RR / M1000RR Exhausts - tinyurl.com/3nu4usy8
S1000RR / M1000RR Carbon Fiber - tinyurl.com/2wjutcn4
00:00 Intro
00:15 What does the S1000RR have?
01:00 Stock dyno runs!
02:00 How much power did it make stock?
03:40 Flashing the S1000RR and dynoing again!
04:40 BIG Gains!
06:30 Lets investigate the graphs...
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The gains here were IMPRESSIVE. Did you expect nearly 10HP gained from an ECU flash? Best bang-for-buck power mod? 👀 tinyurl.com/yeyv9x3t
It's a downright disgrace BMW sells the bike like this!
Bro can you tell me what the diameter the slip-on is please I need a 60.5mm slip-on for my V2, I have a link pipe but I'm searching for a slip-on... Racefit, AR and a few other manufacturers have refused to supply a custom slip-on for my bike. I'm trying to avoid getting a Chinese generic slip-on but I may have to.
Also have you tuned your V2 yet?
Absolutely the best modification for the K67!
I think so too!
Just received the Stage 1 tune from you guys for my 22 s1000rr. I m excited. Love your content. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! Really appreciate the support! Now you know exactly what you can expect!
Crazy considering it has just a slip on and still the stock air filter… these bikes are actual race machines for the road.
Yes, the BT flash is impressive!
Right because a race machine is only determined by the HP numbers
Thank you for mentioning resetting the adaptions, I see many people leave that crucial step out. I have always had great service from BrenTuning, along with Motomillion. They are even going to help me with tuning my 24 S1000rr because BMW wanted my 23 S1000rr due to a manufacturing defect (heat treatment issue) on the connecting rods. They are a great business to work with.
Glad to hear your experience and thank you for sharing it with all of us!
Your 2023's engine failed?
@@shadowbroker1 BMW took it from me before it failed. I still don't have my replacement bike, supposedly it is now in New Jersey and will be headed to the dealership soon.
Great video. Nice to see Blais running Dyno. They built nitrous ‘busa for me some time ago. Dana
Blais is a great shop, always do right by us!
This is incredible. It looks like a lot of this is from the throttle map.
Thank you for doing the Dyno runs correct. Keep up the great work!
The dyno run was done wrong.
EVERY gear needs to be run and not on a dynojet dyno for best results.
Thank you! More to come.
Awesome video and very informative. What I would like you to see is an Aprilia RS660 dyno tested from stock (with stock exhaust) and then mapped with an SC project exhaust and Dyno test. I own this bike and contemplating this upgrade but would like to see what my net gains are to see if it’s really worth doing cheers and keep the great content coming
The Aprilia 660 is definitely an interesting platform for us to indulge in.
Another great video. Impressive stock numbers. Another thing to make note of is, the proper RPM reading into the dyno just gives an accurate torque number. The horsepower number with be accurate without it
Torque is calculated by rpm. If you don’t have an accurate rpm, your horsepower will not be accurate. When you are measuring the force to be able to spin something it is measuring torque after all.
@Motomillion it's actually different than that. Without an rpm signal the dyno can measure the rate in which you can accelerate a fixed load (roller). This in-turn will give you a horsepower graph but no torque value. In order to get a torque reading the dyno needs to know where in the rpm band the horsepower value occurred. Thats why you can actually get a hp number without an rpm signal.
Where the inaccuracies can happen is when the dyno operator determines rpm from the roller speed and not the actual rpm of the ecu. For example if your rpm calibration on the dyno is showing 100rpm less than actual the torque valves will show higher than they actually are because the hp occured at a lower rpm than it actually is.The horsepower curve will be identical but the torque reading will be off.
We actually have a dyno so I take a lot of care when setting up the rpm signal from roll speed. Some cars are very difficult to get an actual rpm signal from the ecu so my torque values can be off slightly but I save the customers profiles so the delta/gains are measurable when they come back for more mods.
The Stage 2 Bren Tune on my 2023 Streetfighter V4 SP2 is absolutely savage, very rowdy compared to stock. I really want to pick up a 2023 S1000R M-Package next and have it Bren Tuned on E85.
Would make a great duo!
Amazing finally something in detail !
Can you please make a dyno video for stage 2 full system with any filter you offer.. most of us the owners of s1k and m1k RR have different readings and this made it way more clear @motomillion
Will try to do it. Can’t compare dyno graph numbers, not all dyno’s are set up the same nor read the same.
No worries dynos read differently but we believe in the products you offer... I mean I've spent already over 20k in motomillion. I think 80% have common parts like full system and air filter a dyno reading video like this with stage 2 tune can give us a clearer picture or maybe a peace in mind ..thanks alot Manny !
Awesome
Nice video. You mentioned the K63 S1K, have you thought about doing a build series and dyno day on it. I know we say it's a lot like the K67 but the 63 doesn't have the shift cam motor so would really like to see what it gets out of Stage1.
We don’t have any immediate plans but Jaret Campisi is about to pick up an M1000R for his build series.
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Amazing product. Happy to show everyone an unbiased review!
Very good information. I appreciate your input and transparency. Great video. Now how about a Kawasaki. I know not much aftermarket support. Still have to keep trying 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
A Kawasaki project has crossed our mind... It may be a possibility in the future
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Thank you for sharing this info..
So, can you talk more about the use of the GS 911 tool and why you need ir
The GS911 is to reset all the adaptions and sensors on the bike. This allows the tune to take its full effect.
@Motomillion Is this possible with the tool Bren supplies for stage 1? Or it auto does this at tune?
Hi i live in ALGERIA north of Africa I'm big fan for your jobe and my best bike is s1000rr but i have just kawazaki z800
Hello Amine!
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Hi, I have the same motorbike as in the video but in Italy. so it has European specifications. Ours certainly have more declared horsepower but they tell me that on the race map without the controls they don't have the limitations in second and third gear like those with North American specifications.
do you know anything about it?
Thank you
soooo hows the afr's??? no mention at all??
Does this tune work on europe bike ?
Yes it does.
I’m just so happy that he took fairings off… do you see how the bike doesn’t have that much coolant in it? I have a single r and the same thing is happening.. the dealership can’t even figure out where coolant is going
Me too. My bike is drinking coolant. Not much but it is consistentz
@@Slightapex it scares me to death cause I want to put an exhaust on it but not if we can’t find out where coolant is going
unleash the real horsepower
Can we buy the BT stage 1 tune from you if we have the 23 s1000xr?
Yes. Just use the contact us section of the website for now to reach out and we can send you a custom invoice.
It will be added to the site for an easy purchase starting next week, till then we can always send you an invoice right away.
@@Motomillionawesome! I’m finishing up a couple of other things, so it will still be a few weeks out! Glad to hear because definitely want to do business with you! Love your work and content. Talk with you soon my friend!👍
When is the next rsv4 video coming???? 😓
Soon! Lots of them lined up!
194.1hp stock 😎👍
Is there any diff between US and EU stock bikes?
EU should have less restrictions, but it is still restricted
@@Motomillion thx, hopefully someone has some more info for us europeans
Absolutely insane a stock bike making 200+ WHP with a stock filter and exhaust. That slipon isnt doing to much maybe saving weight.
Probably helps a tiny bit.
PLEASE DO THE M1000R because this bike is supposed to be torquier at the mid rpms and if its this restricterd IT MAKES NO SENSE
Jaret Campisi will have one soon!
Wow, I've heard plenty of people talk about the flat spot in the power band on that engine, but seeing it on a dyno is truly just pitiful. How could they even release something in that bad of a state...
Not all manufacturers have this kind of restriction, it goes to show you maybe BMW did not want to take time to develop the bike to be compliant and also not have flat spots like this.
Impressed but your math is off - for example, 2nd gear improvements approx 50, not 60 as you said. Similar error for the 3rd gear - improvement was 38, you said 48. Very impressed though
Not sure what audio you are hearing but I am saying 50 in 2nd gear. Either way glad you enjoyed the video.
@@Motomillionlisten to your video at 9:15. 74 to 112 is 38, you said 48
Bren tuning is awesome except everytime your bikes software is updated, you need to pay $300 for another tune. ...Im wondering how many times my sotware (2023 Ducati Streetfighter V2) would be updated?
I don’t think that is necessarily true.
well that, and the numerous blown motors with brentune
The BT Moto FAQ webpage indicates if there are any dealer software updates with the modified tune on it, the device will be locked up and you have to pay to reset and remap everything. From what I see on their site, for a Flasher+ (not sure if that is all tools), it is $225 USD. May not be $300, but still is costly or time consuming to reload tunes every time you go to the dealer. I am wondering if I am missing something?
So you are saying that the MotoGp teams use exhaust valves in thier exhausts for noise reduction? I don't think so.
Last time we checked, an S1000RR wasn’t close to being a MotoGP bike. Also the ones one MotoGp bikes are mainly for engine braking purposes.
Good job inflating the numbers by using the STD correction factor instead of SAE that any honest and reputable tuner will use given SAE is the industry standard. STD over SAE will result in over 9HP extra here simply by changing the correction factor. People need to stop focusing on the peak HP numbers and pay more attention to the AFR curve, which wasn't shown at the bottom of every graph for some reason.
Good job for showing us how bright you are. We even say who care of peak numbers. Do the math (if you are bright enough) and calculate how many % the gain is. If you ae still bitter and not impressed, then try to light a candle or two to maybe brighten up a little.
And here you are not even understanding what I'm saying Mr. "bright". Your numbers are inflated and not true in terms of the dyno graphs. Your bike doesn't make 200+rwhp on pump gas, it makes closer to 190. I never said the gains weren't real. Clearly doing any type of unrestricting/fueling changes will increase the horsepower. STD yields 5% higher numbers over SAE does. 5% of 200hp is 10hp, so realistically your bike using the correct correction factor would show 190rwhp +- a couple depending on the setup and weather that day. That's my issue with these BT tuning numbers. Y'all wanna be able to show these guys "200rwhp" numbers on a dyno sheet because it looks impressive and gets their money. Take that candle or two and shove it 👍 @@Motomillion
@@MattJFilms Do you go on every single video and comment about sae/std? You start in one factor and keep it goin, not like he dynoed stock in SAE, and jumped over to STD to artificially inflate his number? Do a quick search on youtube for dyno vid's, you'll see most do it in STD...
No doubt what these can can do for the k67 its crazy....BUT...that dyno is like having a midget put there hands around ur man veggies and sending someone a pic its rather flattering😂 i guess the same day before and after is what counts.
At the end of it all, we are there to see the gains. Incredible gains even in % of power increase.
The numbers are wrong, take 30% off the highest number and that’s about right on a dynojet dyno. The highest s1000rr that I ever saw was 196 on the first gen. And this was done by someone who built his dyno because of dynojet. Dynojet does not take parasitic loss into account, tire size and weight…….. nope this is bulls*it
Manny, your tuning vids are excellent. Real world results. Precise results. Well explained, expertly executed. Respect. 🫡🦾
Glad you like them!
Still less than 200 RWHP SAE.
Still extremely respectable, still bone stock and still looking at peak numbers…
At least someone else here gets the difference between SAE and STD correction factors 🤣