WeebWars '24. I'll never understand how people can say the Jap soundtrack (if you even can call it that) surpasses anything by the Faulconer group. Those dumb horns that are going off in every "piece", and it's just so BLAND. Day of Fate is definitely the best bit of the Jap soundtrack, but one little golden nugget out of a manurepile does not, a good soundtrack make.
Gohan gets the goku theme when he begins the final kamehameha as goku says make cell pay for what he has done and gohan says i will it drops.....that theme works for that situation cause goku inspires him and is his dad and helps him in the end...goku theme doesn't really fit gohan...it is more sorrowful and angelic and you can hear the conflict regret going on in goku's heart with the rising choir voices and guitar riffs and piano and synth keys
In fact, that's just because the songs aren't exactly unique, and aren't made for THAT moment, like the original themes, in Japanese, especially Gohan's, are. The ability to do something that only works for ONE specific moment, and no others, is really impressive, because you know exactly the feeling of the scene
@@cordz436 Actually, I’ve never even watched a single episode of any Dragon Ball related thing 😅 I just know the characters, their powers, and their voices..sort of..
Low key I think Sean Schemmel put on a better performance in Kai during this scene. The scream he does in Kai sends chills down my spine like nothing else.
@@hugheggs I love how all aliens in the show know English or Japanese. Dude, seriously, y’all pick the most pointless shit to get hung up on. Lemme guess, Jeice’s Australian accent was also too much for you? Lol.
As much I love dbz, I'll respect Goku's son, Gohan theme as I respect his song. In my opinion, Gohan theme work well, too. Again, just respecting son of Gohan, the father of Goku. 😊
goku - The man that turned into a legend gohan - The man that created a legend even in the worldwide theme for gohan that it's called Tamashi tai tamashi. The song starts talking a bout a messias. Would just fit goku perfectly
I kinda agree, man. I love both themes and I think both scenes are awesome. But something is just different that I can't explain with Gohan's transformation.
Gohan is straight up anger, hope and sadness, the piano does a lot on his theme, but Goku's theme is more of a revenge and spite type of anger, the reverb and acid beat makes it very clear, that's not really Gohan's vibe.
The thing with Goku's theme is that it showcases something we've never seen before. It's angelic because it's brand new. With Gohan's theme, it's heavy and creates hype because we know what's happening. We don't immediately know that it's a new Super Saiyan form, but we've seen Gohan explode before, just never as a Super Saiyan. So we know what we're seeing.
Goku with Gohan's theme sounds like an underdog turned into a hero, because of training and never giving up. Which fits so well Gohan with Gokus theme makes it look like an innocent soul finally bringing out his full potential. Which fits perfectly
Wouldn't switch them personally, gohan's theme is more emotional and kinda resonates with gohan not wanting to be violent. Sure, goku's big thing was mercy, but he was always willing to fight with his full power and loved fighting.
Goku's theme definitely gives the vibe of continuous, unadulterated change, as you can see during Gohan raging up when the tense minor chords come in, then buffing up while the music softens and still buffing while it picks up. With Gohan's Anger, it's a lot more emotionally charged, with that early minor riff over Goku's line, and then the progressional transformation when the piano comes in, with the epic complete pause when he transforms and the break in of the heaviest part of the song with his completed transformation in full view.
Actually, Goku's SSJ theme was already playing when SSJ Gohan demonstrates his power against Cell before starting his fight with him. And it was awesome!
Gohans scene is better emotionally and cause we were growing with him etc. Gokus scene is better in the way of background and how it looks cooler and more epic visually Gohan had way better build up for multiple arcs and the fact he couldn't win till now made it better. With Goku its not as good cause he was glazed by the writing for the whole series. Gohan may not have trained as much but he suffered so much since he was a little child,and the fact that he often felt helpless made this better
These themes work well swapped, but it still works better the original way. Goku's theme really gives off the whole "fulfilling a legendary badass prophecy" vibe, Gohan's theme quite literally feels like a heartbeat, like "this child has been beaten and abused and lost so much and now he's been tragically forced past his breaking point" One makes you feel like "holy shit he's finally gonna do it", and the other makes you think "this poor kid needs a hug. . . Afrer he saves the world of course. Definitely needs a hug though"
As someone who grew up when these two events first happened I have to say….”HOLY SHIT THIS WORKS!!!” Oddly enough I think I prefer the theme swap damn! This is killer
Gohan's anger worked really well with Goku. Something about that theme just gives me chills. You could play it while Vegeta's taking a dump and I'd still say "that's beautiful 🥲" Gohan with goku's theme.... not as much but still decent
Both were pretty good, but I think Gohan's in particular has a sort of.. dissociative? aspect to it that really makes it sit at home much better with Gohan. After all, Gohan is kind of helpless in this situation until he takes the mantle and decides enough is enough, and I think his theme emphasizes that in a way. In Goku's case, he's sort of accepted that he's the only one who could stand up to Freeza, and his theme feels very focused in a way that plays into his role in the arc, imo. Again, these were fine to listen to and a fun experiment, but it also helps me further appreciate the original placement of these tracks.
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Looks like I kicked the weebhive.
WeebWars '24.
I'll never understand how people can say the Jap soundtrack (if you even can call it that) surpasses anything by the Faulconer group. Those dumb horns that are going off in every "piece", and it's just so BLAND. Day of Fate is definitely the best bit of the Jap soundtrack, but one little golden nugget out of a manurepile does not, a good soundtrack make.
Gohan gets the goku theme when he begins the final kamehameha as goku says make cell pay for what he has done and gohan says i will it drops.....that theme works for that situation cause goku inspires him and is his dad and helps him in the end...goku theme doesn't really fit gohan...it is more sorrowful and angelic and you can hear the conflict regret going on in goku's heart with the rising choir voices and guitar riffs and piano and synth keys
Both these themes just reiterate the saying “Like father, like son” for me. Even swapped, they still surprisingly work well.
No wait - Like father, like son Gohan
@@trerchry they work so well
@@jacksurvivalwolf9671hmm.. perfect
Well, they were unironically made to convey the same emotion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nigga got goosebumps at 1:01
Ssj goku transformation with gohan angers,gave me chills
FAX
Me too.. this screamed “ the super saiyan of legend “
Same.
Fr
exactly straight goosebumps
Damn gokus theme is so angelic sounding. It made Gohans scene way more epic in my opinion
"Angelic Sounding"
UI: Someone Call me?
@technnicalvapor007 ui isn't angelic, it's godly 🗿
@@GamingVegeta1 Its literally the technique of the angels 😐
@@GamingVegeta1its both
The Kai scream makes this old one sound cringe
A true testament of how awesome a composer Bruce Faulconer is. His compositions were excellent at mood setting, building tension and payoff.
Faulconer didn't compose some of these, Most of em were composed by people like Mike Smith and Scott Morgan.
Lmfao
@@onearmouredboipictures8653Definitely need more of us out there setting the record straight, gj.
In fact, that's just because the songs aren't exactly unique, and aren't made for THAT moment, like the original themes, in Japanese, especially Gohan's, are. The ability to do something that only works for ONE specific moment, and no others, is really impressive, because you know exactly the feeling of the scene
@@onearmouredboipictures8653unfortunately too many people don't know this like the dude here
This made me realize how similar Gohan and Goku’s angered screams were when they were younger…
same voice actor
@@tshepangmarumk4684 Wait, young Gohan and Young Goku had the same voice actor?? Well, that’s how you know my knowledge of DBZ is bad..
@@jayvisspenceryea. Gohan voice just has more raspyness to it but it’s the same person.
@jayvisspencer how could you not tell lol. Unless you mainly watched kai, then I understand
@@cordz436 Actually, I’ve never even watched a single episode of any Dragon Ball related thing 😅
I just know the characters, their powers, and their voices..sort of..
Goku with Gohan's theme sounds astounding, goosebumps 🫡🫡🫡🫡
It's not even Goku's scream, it's the pause before it that's the cherry on top
The sheer aura when he hits the pose right as the guitar riff starts
Nah fr I wasn’t expecting it at all, sent a full chill down my body
@@onemindset4769fr 😭
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Low key I think Sean Schemmel put on a better performance in Kai during this scene. The scream he does in Kai sends chills down my spine like nothing else.
Saying "pop goes the weasel" after blowing someone up is vile
Frieza's character summarized in one action
i love how a space alien warlord knows an earthling childrens nursery rhyme.
@@hugheggs I love how all aliens in the show know English or Japanese. Dude, seriously, y’all pick the most pointless shit to get hung up on. Lemme guess, Jeice’s Australian accent was also too much for you? Lol.
@@hugheggsHe also knows what a record is and how they sound when broken.
@@hugheggs😂😂
Goku's scene worked really well. Gohan's scene less. Gohan's Anger may be a more meaningful song, I think
Same here so badass
As much I love dbz, I'll respect Goku's son, Gohan theme as I respect his song. In my opinion, Gohan theme work well, too. Again, just respecting son of Gohan, the father of Goku. 😊
I agree
@@SCUDGANGTake a shower
@@SCUDGANGthis is just wrong honestly
Music is truly a powerful tool
I'll never forget how badass Gohan is, with the SSJ blonde hair and blue eyes, tears in his eyes, and the stare down of death itself on his face!
Yeah, his baby rage is working
Wow! The swap of the themes still sounded epic the anger in Goku and the awesome riffs in “Gohan’s Anger” was just amazing
The DBZ soundtrack was so ahead of it's time man
This is not dbz, this is kai shit stuf
Bruce Faulconer was the man
goku - The man that turned into a legend
gohan - The man that created a legend
even in the worldwide theme for gohan that it's called Tamashi tai tamashi. The song starts talking a bout a messias. Would just fit goku perfectly
These scenes was both perfect with different scores🔥🔥
Gotta say Goku went with gohans but feel like Gohan didn't work with gokus
I think they were perfect both of them
@@Shaiorafit0I agree, both OSTs were just so well done imo
I kinda agree, man. I love both themes and I think both scenes are awesome. But something is just different that I can't explain with Gohan's transformation.
Is just opinion stuff to be honest
Gohan is straight up anger, hope and sadness, the piano does a lot on his theme, but Goku's theme is more of a revenge and spite type of anger, the reverb and acid beat makes it very clear, that's not really Gohan's vibe.
day of fate: am i a joke to you?
Yes.
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Fr tho, day ofr tho, day of fate is way better then gohans anger
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The thing with Goku's theme is that it showcases something we've never seen before. It's angelic because it's brand new.
With Gohan's theme, it's heavy and creates hype because we know what's happening. We don't immediately know that it's a new Super Saiyan form, but we've seen Gohan explode before, just never as a Super Saiyan. So we know what we're seeing.
this is why dragon ball z is goated when people make stuff like this just shows how well the music works with scene
Goku's ssj transformation with gohan's theme - absolute chills
Fr
Wow, this edit with Gohan and Goku's transformation theme gave me chills. Well done, great eye!!
absolute fire my guy
Goku with Gohan's theme sounds like an underdog turned into a hero, because of training and never giving up. Which fits so well
Gohan with Gokus theme makes it look like an innocent soul finally bringing out his full potential. Which fits perfectly
I almost choked whilst tearing up watching this. This never happened before- Dang this hit me hard for some reason.
honestly this made me realize both themes have pianos in them
I liked Goku's theme with Gohan's transformation but Gohan's theme with Goku's just brings chills, it was intense.
It made it feel like I watched goku transform for the first time again
Masterpiece. thank you master Toriyama... #ThankYouToriyama
This is actually amazing and works for both
This swap was incredible. It fits so damn good. Wow!
Hey, they both work. Both have that big heroic energy going on
That piano gets me every time it starts up. Too good.
This was Actually PRETTY GOOD !!
I believe either way would’ve been so dope man 🔥💯
Insane how they both fit each other lol
THIS IS THE SWAP I NEEDED MY WHOLE LIFE.
Awesome edit
I tought that it would "Tamashi no Tamashi" for Goku's scene
Both of these themes are masterpieces
Gohan theme always hit me so different that I workout and listen to that theme as my daily serotonin.
Wouldn't switch them personally, gohan's theme is more emotional and kinda resonates with gohan not wanting to be violent. Sure, goku's big thing was mercy, but he was always willing to fight with his full power and loved fighting.
1:00 🔥🔥
Goku's theme definitely gives the vibe of continuous, unadulterated change, as you can see during Gohan raging up when the tense minor chords come in, then buffing up while the music softens and still buffing while it picks up. With Gohan's Anger, it's a lot more emotionally charged, with that early minor riff over Goku's line, and then the progressional transformation when the piano comes in, with the epic complete pause when he transforms and the break in of the heaviest part of the song with his completed transformation in full view.
why does this actually sound better ?
Man, I forgot how awesome Gohan's theme is.
Both swapped and worked amazingly
I think that was a perfect swap and that’s how the music selection the episodes should’ve used.
The ssj2 theme with the og ssj transformation is awesome
The best theme songs in Dragon ball Z and Transformation
Ssj3 theme is better than gohans anger
Ngl, this goes hard
Chills from the goku with gohans theme wth, i never get chills
Actually, Goku's SSJ theme was already playing when SSJ Gohan demonstrates his power against Cell before starting his fight with him. And it was awesome!
It is the single most underrated transformation in DB, and maybe all of anime. When Gohan goes full power to SSJ is unreal
@@mikeclark7026 HECK YEAH!!!! And all the Z-fighters, bar Goku, stood their in amazement, not phatoming how much Gohan had grown.
@@Firemarioflower
Yup, and all of them internally commenting on just how strong he got. “He is far more powerful than I had ever thought possible”
It’s almost like they were that way originally…. Great scores in general
Just something about that goku ssj theme it’s just as legendary makes anything look good
Both their theme it fit perfectly when they rage powering up
No, keep them the way they were, both were legendary. Epic till this day
Why does the lightning and the piano fit so damn well????!!!!!!😮
The thunder like synced with the beat 😂
Goku smiling after hearing his own theme come from his son 😂
Coincidentally Goku and Gohan have The Same VA in 🇯🇵
This solidifies how stacked gohans theme really is
1:01 beat drops somthing sick bro. Crazy goosebumps
*Astolfo is a Man*
Me: "Ok."
*Yamato is a Man*
Me:
Npc
Yo Gohan with Goku's SSJ theme goes surprisingly hard.
Like when he releases his power against Cell, as a SSJ.
@@Firemarioflowerit makes his transformation and anger almost ominous.
Gohans ss2 theme goes with everything
Gohans theme on namek gokus scene goes even harder than the og
Oh wait that's probably the Faulconer score. I thought something was off. I grew up with the original.
ooh that goku edit hit different, gohans goes well too
Imagen seeing this in the anime with this themes would have gave it a whole different vibe
Now I want to see every Saiyan transformation with SSJ2 Gohan’s theme
They needed the real cell back in super when he said (incredible)😂
Both worked out really well
*Let's Hope Blackbeard won't make the same Mistake as Cell! 💀*
Cell= Blackbeard
Android 16= ???
Gohan= Shirahoshi
I love this video bro i thought about something like this before 😮
Goku went CRAZYYY
1:25 I like how the cell jr just buries piccolo there Lol
Like father, like son
Gohans scene is better emotionally and cause we were growing with him etc.
Gokus scene is better in the way of background and how it looks cooler and more epic visually
Gohan had way better build up for multiple arcs and the fact he couldn't win till now made it better.
With Goku its not as good cause he was glazed by the writing for the whole series.
Gohan may not have trained as much but he suffered so much since he was a little child,and the fact that he often felt helpless made this better
0:56 that drop
1:01 goosebumps
It kinda fits gohan ngl
These themes work well swapped, but it still works better the original way. Goku's theme really gives off the whole "fulfilling a legendary badass prophecy" vibe, Gohan's theme quite literally feels like a heartbeat, like "this child has been beaten and abused and lost so much and now he's been tragically forced past his breaking point"
One makes you feel like "holy shit he's finally gonna do it", and the other makes you think "this poor kid needs a hug. . . Afrer he saves the world of course. Definitely needs a hug though"
It is ASTOUNDING how well Goku’s transformation syncs up in timing to Gohan Angers.
That was Cool as Hell!!!
This swap may work if the composition were changed a little for timing and escalation. This is an interesting experiment.
That Goku music is great
Its low key heavy metal, hear that bass slapping too so smooth
Would be cool to see gohans music with the path to power kamehameha scene
Dbz soundtrack hard af
They are both great these songs!
Crazy thing is they used goku's theme ssj music for gohan when he first transformed to fight dabura
As someone who grew up when these two events first happened I have to say….”HOLY SHIT THIS WORKS!!!” Oddly enough I think I prefer the theme swap damn! This is killer
*Let's Hope Blackbeard won't make the same Mistake as Frieza! 💀*
Frieza= Blackbeard
Krilin= ???
Goku= Shirahoshi
Gohan's anger worked really well with Goku. Something about that theme just gives me chills. You could play it while Vegeta's taking a dump and I'd still say "that's beautiful 🥲" Gohan with goku's theme.... not as much but still decent
Classic Gohan dub, nothing beats it.
Gohans theme is my favorite in the series
Both were pretty good, but I think Gohan's in particular has a sort of.. dissociative? aspect to it that really makes it sit at home much better with Gohan. After all, Gohan is kind of helpless in this situation until he takes the mantle and decides enough is enough, and I think his theme emphasizes that in a way. In Goku's case, he's sort of accepted that he's the only one who could stand up to Freeza, and his theme feels very focused in a way that plays into his role in the arc, imo. Again, these were fine to listen to and a fun experiment, but it also helps me further appreciate the original placement of these tracks.
Goku theme hit Gohan transformation different
Gahon theme always hits me harder.
I need a complete version of goku with gohan angers
Is just epic
Chris Ayers is the indisputable best English Freeza of all time but Linda Young really brought alot of character to the role too.