I would say that cell use at least 50% of power against goku so a ssj2 would be equal strong as cell but if he dont lock he would loose due to energy loss.
Goku didn't officially reach SSJ2 during Cell Games aka Super Saiyan Grade 5 though. He just perfected Super Saiyan at Grade 4 (this still has the blue electric arcs). But hypothetically speaking, if Cell did it would have to be facing Goku during Buu Saga and as Cell has Saiyan DNA, he would also have surpassed Gohan SSJ2 lvl in that time span.
I ultimately think that if Goku had achieved super saiyan 2 during the Cell Games, he would definitely be stronger than Perfect Cell, and possibly be stronger than Super Perfect Cell, even if only by a narrow margin.
Im glad you made the distiction of Cell Games SSJ2 Goku and not the one we officially see upon his return in the Buu Saga against SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. If it was that version of Goku he'd mop the floor with any form of Perfect Cell easily
see at first i was thinking he meant ssj 2 goku from the buu saga. but once u mentioned it was cell games goku I was like ooooooooo had to delete the whole paragraph lol great vid and I agree
I think SSj2 Goku would win because he is a better fighter, Cell even after ramping up didnt one shot Goku because Goku was on the edge all the time ,sure CEll wasnt worried because he has a ton of power left so its doesnt matter. Goku's specialty is getting the upper hand on his opponent during fights cause he is used to fight enemies stronger then himself and rage boost wasnt a thing back then , Gohan is noted to have high jumps in power but he isnt as good as Goku when it comes to fighting on the same power or stronger then himself.
Great video a lot of fans don’t understand how potent gohan’s rage boost was on top of his ssj2 transformation. It took goku and vegeta 7 years of training to close the gap. A cell saga ssj 2 goku wouldn’t be a fraction of gohan’s power.
Ssj 2 goku would beat perfect cell but would lose to super perfect cell. If Goku was that much weaker than cell his mastered ssj wouldn't have given him such a good fight. Just because everyone was shocked at cells power doesn't meant he was that much stronger than goku. Remember during the frieza saga how terrified of vegeta dodoria was. Vegeta was only 24,000 while dodoria was i believe 21 or 22,000.
It depends on the continuity. In the anime Gohan tanked a Tri beam from the Cell juniors. We all know how strong the tri beam is (Tien vs Semi Perfect Cell). The difference between Tien & Cell would be atleast a 1000 so SSJ2 Gohan should easily be around 2000 times stronger than Goku.
Bruh if we are talking about Perfect cell before revival he is getting the ssj2 gohan treatment and even goku knew cell had to die so i don't see him playing around that insta kamehameha will have been a go to for the kill and im sure cell ain't surviving that
And that's not even considering the fact that Goku knew he had reached a limit that wasn't going to be broken any time soon. Gohan really was our only chance
I love these kinds of videos please do one on Android Saga(before training in the hyperbolic time chamber and before fusing with Kami) piccolo versus trunks please?!
You're acting like the Ki blast did any damage, it was simply a distraction. SSJ2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell but a Super Perfect Cell would wreck an SSJ2 Goku considering a Mastered SSJ Goku was still weaker than Perfect Cell.
@rbacon8922 gohan was weaker then cell. Duh. That's why he needed ssj2. Yall make no sense. Everything was weaker then cell. Gohan or goku stood no chance against cell untill ssj2. You definitely didn't see the episode when truks explained aftwr he died they told him.vegeta attacked cell.....then they said that was one of the best attacks that hit cell. Cell briefly struggled with the attack because vegeta was enraged. Just like gohan when he gets mad. Even ssj2 vegeta enraged against beersu was stronger then ssj3 briefly. So a ssj2 goku or gohan would destroy cell it don't matter which one because they both were strong enough. Cell power dropped alot after goku fight which is why goku gave him a bean. Ssj2 goku would crush cell.
Goku didnt fight to his limit as ssj. Compare his fight with frieza and vegeta. Goku was absolutely tearing apart, vs cell, he wasnt nearly as damaged, not even close. SSJ2 GOKU during cell gamws is stronger than you think. While Gohan had a rage boost. Goku has an EXPERIENCE boost. Hes far more talented than anyone in the planet with martial arts, gohan is nowhere close in experience. Not onle is Goku stronger, all his martial arts movements are also amping the eficiency of his SSj2 power. An SSJ2 goku also means more emotional intensity so he would be angrier, fueling him.
@@reynoldnjoku9735 I agree or at best 60% You know, I’ve always loved powerscaling and I wonder how things would have play out with Gohan ssj2 (without rage boost) vs SPC
Are you nuts? Goku in the buu saga when he went ssj3 was training the whole time after the cell arch. He's way stronger than ssj3 Gohan from cell saga by then buddy. You must be super young and not know a whole lot about dragon ball lol
Begets He even said "at least you're stronger than your son was when he fought cell" so I don't know what this dude is talking about. I think he forgot all about that or this video was just click bait
Just got to give you an idea on how strong ssj2 gohan is each of those cell jrs are like a dozen time stronger than namek saga goku and might be downplaying them. Grade 2 Vegeta even before the hyperbolic time chamber is far stronger than semi perfect cell who is 2 to 3x stronger than imperfect cell due to android 16 punch literally having no affect on him. and 16 was relative to first form cell. and imperfect cell is definitely 2x stronger than super powerful Piccolo who far surpasses goku and Vegeta as super Saiyans who are a far strongee that what they were on namek. and gohan just kicks through them like butter literally.
Also for people who think grade3 stronger or as strong as ssj 2 Gohan they forget that cell also has access to grade 3 as well due to having Saiyan cells the cell before the cell games in his buffed form frightened grade 3 trunks and was much stronger than him. which makes sense because cell normal state is far stronger than grade 2 trunks. and cell uses grade 3 on his full power state against Gohan and Gohan punched cell so hard that he vomited android 18. Making him atleast two times stronger. it's clear who has more raw power as much as i like trunk's Gohan would slaughter trunks and possibly kill him with one punch. This shouldn't even be a debate.
cell went full because he was forced to do so by Gohan and other warriors reacted at 100 % cell with goosebumps because they realized how much more they were outclassed and how much more cell was holding back but still Gohan outclassed them all
SSJ2 Goku (CELL GAMES) > Super Perfect Cell, Mid-High Diff SSJ3 Goku (CELL GAMES) > Super Perfect Cell, Low Diff SSJ Goku (CELL GAMES) < Super Perfect Cell, Low-Mid Diff
If Goku trains to specifically become SSJ2 would'nt he try to be close to full power SSJ 1 Gohan before transformation SSJ2? In that case he would be as strong as Gohan or even more with his fighting experience. Therefore, i believe he would surpass PCell and SPCell.
I think with SSJ2, Goku would definitely be strong enough to beat Perfect Cell, especially since even though Goku doesn't get the same rage boost as Gohan, being enraged make him stronger as well. But yeah Goku would lose to Super Perfect Cell
Goku wouldn't win with SSJ2 but it WOULD be closer than you'd think. Unless you give him mastered or at least as much as in the Buu Saga then he can win.
Bro are you completely stupid cell used almost all his power in the fight and you going to tell me that Goku being 150 times stronger wouldn't win your smoking crack
@@edogawaconan945 Uhm, canon just means “main continuity” essentially, which the video is discussing. Nice projection though buddy. Definitely isn’t pathetic projecting and insulting a random comment over nothing on a damn Dragon Ball UA-cam “power-scaling” video Maybe learn some self-awareness as you literally clicked on a versus video.
Cell wasn’t even using half his power when fighting Goku and used more more against ssj gohan you go with ssj2 only being a 2x boost then there definitely a chance that ssj2 would still lose
SS2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell but not Super Perfect Cell Super Vegeta 1,200,000,000 USS Trunks 2,100,000,000 Perfect Cell Suppressed 1,600,000,000 Power Weighted 2,800,000,000 FPSS Goku 50% 1,500,000,000 SS Vegeta 2,200,000,000 SS Trunks 1,800,000,000 Piccolo 800,000,000 FPSS Goku 3,000,000,000 Cell 3,500,000,000 FPSS Gohan 4,000,000,000 SS2 Gohan 8,000,000,000 Cell Full Power 5,000,000,000 Power Weighted Cell 7,500,000,000 Super Perfecf Cell 8,000,000,000 So if Goku went SS2 his power level would be 6,000,000,000 enough to take down Perfect Cell but not Super Perfect
No I don’t agree. Goku simply did reach that high in power that time & cell & Goku were stronger. But if Goku had more time to train, he could become stronger & strongest. His SS2 would be stonger than Gohan,s SS2.
saying "if" doesn't mean that he does Gohan was literally stated to be stronger than goku this is like saying what if goku trained a little more before cell this is a completely different conversation
You saying sperfect cell was anywhere near ssj2 gohans power is just false imo. Cell got clapped by a 50% power ssj2 gohan in a beam struggle (i know he got a bit of help, but still 50% clapped super perfect cells 100%!).
Goku and gohan were relative at the cell saga. Your telling me that gohan was SOO over goku at the mastered super saiyen level that goku would lose as a ssj2. I think you guys are forgetting what logic is. Heck i would bet even a ssj2 trunks would beat cell
Gohan was vastly stronger than Goku. Gohan literally thought that Goku's full power was him playing around. And the gap widens even more with SSJ2 + hidden power unlock.
@Top_E_Official no he wasn't. Gohan couldn't believe how strong goku was at half power. He was stronger 20-30% then Goku max. No where does it state Gohan was vastly more powerful then goku because he wasn't. Yall making stuff up. This video is silly. Goku as a ssj2 would destroy cell. Ssj2 would destroy cell period at this time. Yall forgetting what made Gohan so strong was the ssj2 goku seen it wasn't his ssj1. Ssj2 goku seen it knew it was incredible and was needed. Gohan only git it through rage like everything else Gohan did. This video is so stupid lmbo
@bombyo3634 Goku confirmed it himself. He even asked Gohan if he thought their fight was awesome. And Gohan said no I thought you guys were toying around. When Goku powered up to 100%, Gohan was actually extremely unimpressed. Gohan even had an inner monologue where he said why is everyone impressed with this?
@Top_E_Official Gohan said how did his dad have time to get some strong while training him. Did you watch when he only did 50% at korin tower? Gohan was suprised. At the tournament he realized he was stronger. So yes Gohan thought his dad was stronger because of the training you must have missed that episode. Gohan ssj form was stronger then goku but not to the point where people are acting like goku full power is only a portion or Gohan. Yall people are insane to think that.
this is one of the most moronic dbz debates ever and that’s saying a lot ssj2 goku slaps perfect cell. super perfect cell is much closer and i could see it goin either way. goku and gohan were equal in strength (as shown in time chamber when goku wins) so why if goku turned ssj2 why wouldn’t he beat perfect cell who gohan was toying with. also gohan rage boosts wasn’t as significant it mostly just the ssj2 u can tell by how calm gohan was he wasn’t actually engaged like when he was on namek so this debate is stupid
Yeah the only problem with that is that korin stated that cell hasn't revealed his true power so korin could have just been comparing Goku power to cell possible true power in his mind. Also while I do believe that grade 3 trunks was stronger than a heavily suppressed cell as we found out when he fought Gohan . it probably wasn't by that much especially towards the end of the fight because not only cell was taking damage from grade 3 trunks he was also still able to damage trunks when he hits trunks. of course I still think trunks is stronger but judging that trunks wasn't immune to his attacks. When cell hits him trunks is probably just 1.5x or probably 30% strongerthan cell at that time . and you don't really have any proof that cell was using the same power as he did against grade 3 trunks since cell was constantly suppressing his true power even when he fought trunks he only used his full power when Gohan went ssj2.
goku wouldve just stacked kioken times 3x with super saiyan and he would win easily but would be really tired or be knocked out after the fight but plot was against it
In the Bus Saga Majin Vegeta literally tells Goku that he is currently stronger than Gohan was against Cell at Super Saiyan 2... so question answered without an 8 min video
Yeah, thats the point. They are talking about a theoretical situation where, instead of training Gohan, Goku focuses on his own training to unlock Super Saiyan 2 himself. Essentially asking if a theoretical Super Saiyan 2 Goku would have been able to win against Cell like Super Saiyan 2 Gohan did.
This is *Cell Games* SSJ2 Goku btw
I would say that cell use at least 50% of power against goku so a ssj2 would be equal strong as cell but if he dont lock he would loose due to energy loss.
Goku didn't officially reach SSJ2 during Cell Games aka Super Saiyan Grade 5 though. He just perfected Super Saiyan at Grade 4 (this still has the blue electric arcs).
But hypothetically speaking, if Cell did it would have to be facing Goku during Buu Saga and as Cell has Saiyan DNA, he would also have surpassed Gohan SSJ2 lvl in that time span.
Majin Vegeta was very clear when he said "Well, at least you're stronger than you son was against Cell" so i think the answer is quite obvious lol.
That’s after Goku trained for seven years
I reckon Majin Vegeta would still lose to SSJ2 Kid Gohan
@@nineteen90z I reckon SSJ2 Kid Gohan gets destroyed given Vegeta's use of the words "at least."
I ultimately think that if Goku had achieved super saiyan 2 during the Cell Games, he would definitely be stronger than Perfect Cell, and possibly be stronger than Super Perfect Cell, even if only by a narrow margin.
Ssj2 goku wouldn, t be as strong as gohan but could still beat cells ass
Im glad you made the distiction of Cell Games SSJ2 Goku and not the one we officially see upon his return in the Buu Saga against SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. If it was that version of Goku he'd mop the floor with any form of Perfect Cell easily
see at first i was thinking he meant ssj 2 goku from the buu saga. but once u mentioned it was cell games goku I was like ooooooooo had to delete the whole paragraph lol great vid and I agree
I think SSj2 Goku would win because he is a better fighter, Cell even after ramping up didnt one shot Goku because Goku was on the edge all the time ,sure CEll wasnt worried because he has a ton of power left so its doesnt matter.
Goku's specialty is getting the upper hand on his opponent during fights cause he is used to fight enemies stronger then himself and rage boost wasnt a thing back then , Gohan is noted to have high jumps in power but he isnt as good as Goku when it comes to fighting on the same power or stronger then himself.
SSJ2 Goku defeats Perfect Cell but loses to Super Perfect Cell
No.
He loses to both versions of cell
Gohan's potential played a massive part in the Cell Games.
Great video a lot of fans don’t understand how potent gohan’s rage boost was on top of his ssj2 transformation. It took goku and vegeta 7 years of training to close the gap. A cell saga ssj 2 goku wouldn’t be a fraction of gohan’s power.
Ssj 2 goku would beat perfect cell but would lose to super perfect cell. If Goku was that much weaker than cell his mastered ssj wouldn't have given him such a good fight. Just because everyone was shocked at cells power doesn't meant he was that much stronger than goku. Remember during the frieza saga how terrified of vegeta dodoria was. Vegeta was only 24,000 while dodoria was i believe 21 or 22,000.
It depends on the continuity. In the anime Gohan tanked a Tri beam from the Cell juniors. We all know how strong the tri beam is (Tien vs Semi Perfect Cell).
The difference between Tien & Cell would be atleast a 1000 so SSJ2 Gohan should easily be around 2000 times stronger than Goku.
@Top_E_OfficialThat was a rage amped Gohan so it's obv his rage would be that powerful. Good catch though
Also Tien was using a Neo-Tri beam not just the standard tri beam.
Bruh if we are talking about Perfect cell before revival he is getting the ssj2 gohan treatment and even goku knew cell had to die so i don't see him playing around that insta kamehameha will have been a go to for the kill and im sure cell ain't surviving that
And that's not even considering the fact that Goku knew he had reached a limit that wasn't going to be broken any time soon. Gohan really was our only chance
I love these kinds of videos please do one on Android Saga(before training in the hyperbolic time chamber and before fusing with Kami) piccolo versus trunks please?!
@@Bowmacho will do, adding it to the list
@@DetBirdPiccolo wins via skill, and abilities
Vegeta enraged at ssj1 his cell at his return with a good shot aftwr trunks died. Lol that was just ssj1 yet yall saying ssj2 goku can't is insane. 😂
You're acting like the Ki blast did any damage, it was simply a distraction. SSJ2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell but a Super Perfect Cell would wreck an SSJ2 Goku considering a Mastered SSJ Goku was still weaker than Perfect Cell.
@rbacon8922 gohan was weaker then cell. Duh. That's why he needed ssj2. Yall make no sense. Everything was weaker then cell. Gohan or goku stood no chance against cell untill ssj2.
You definitely didn't see the episode when truks explained aftwr he died they told him.vegeta attacked cell.....then they said that was one of the best attacks that hit cell. Cell briefly struggled with the attack because vegeta was enraged. Just like gohan when he gets mad. Even ssj2 vegeta enraged against beersu was stronger then ssj3 briefly.
So a ssj2 goku or gohan would destroy cell it don't matter which one because they both were strong enough.
Cell power dropped alot after goku fight which is why goku gave him a bean. Ssj2 goku would crush cell.
Goku didnt fight to his limit as ssj. Compare his fight with frieza and vegeta. Goku was absolutely tearing apart, vs cell, he wasnt nearly as damaged, not even close.
SSJ2 GOKU during cell gamws is stronger than you think. While Gohan had a rage boost. Goku has an EXPERIENCE boost. Hes far more talented than anyone in the planet with martial arts, gohan is nowhere close in experience. Not onle is Goku stronger, all his martial arts movements are also amping the eficiency of his SSj2 power. An SSJ2 goku also means more emotional intensity so he would be angrier, fueling him.
At this time, I’d say Goku would still lose but it would make a much better fight. Gohan not only has the ssj2 multiplier, but the rage boost as well
Goku and vegeta at the start of buu saga were already much stronger than Gohan from Cell games
@ I was thinking of Goku at the cell games turning ssj2, I actually haven’t had a chance to watch the vid yet.
ssj2 Buu saga Goku vs SPC would be a 🔥
Rarely Goku wasn’t even close to putting cell to use 50%
@@reynoldnjoku9735 I agree or at best 60% You know, I’ve always loved powerscaling and I wonder how things would have play out with Gohan ssj2 (without rage boost) vs SPC
Are you nuts? Goku in the buu saga when he went ssj3 was training the whole time after the cell arch. He's way stronger than ssj3 Gohan from cell saga by then buddy. You must be super young and not know a whole lot about dragon ball lol
Wait y'all actually think Goku would loose?
😂??? But you do realize Goku and Vegeta were stronger than Gohan s2 later on
Begets
He even said "at least you're stronger than your son was when he fought cell" so I don't know what this dude is talking about. I think he forgot all about that or this video was just click bait
after 7 years of training? this is cell saga goku
@@TuxedoMask512 but his title is about SSJ2 Goku
He talking about Cell games Goku @@th3_renegade979
@th3_renegade979
It's about if Goku received SSJ2 in the Cell saga, not Majin Buu arc Goku
When Goku turned SS2 in front of Majin Vegeta, Vegeta stated that Goku was stronger than Gohan against Cell
Just got to give you an idea on how strong ssj2 gohan is each of those cell jrs are like a dozen time stronger than namek saga goku and might be downplaying them. Grade 2 Vegeta even before the hyperbolic time chamber is far stronger than semi perfect cell who is 2 to 3x stronger than imperfect cell due to android 16 punch literally having no affect on him. and 16 was relative to first form cell. and imperfect cell is definitely 2x stronger than super powerful Piccolo who far surpasses goku and Vegeta as super Saiyans who are a far strongee that what they were on namek. and gohan just kicks through them like butter literally.
Also for people who think grade3 stronger or as strong as ssj 2 Gohan they forget that cell also has access to grade 3 as well due to having Saiyan cells the cell before the cell games in his buffed form frightened grade 3 trunks and was much stronger than him. which makes sense because cell normal state is far stronger than grade 2 trunks. and cell uses grade 3 on his full power state against Gohan and Gohan punched cell so hard that he vomited android 18. Making him atleast two times stronger. it's clear who has more raw power as much as i like trunk's Gohan would slaughter trunks and possibly kill him with one punch. This shouldn't even be a debate.
THIS is a good matchup, why hasn't this been discussed before? I like the way you think! Subbed.
cell went full because he was forced to do so by Gohan and other warriors reacted at 100 % cell with goosebumps because they realized how much more they were outclassed and how much more cell was holding back but still Gohan outclassed them all
SSJ2 Goku (CELL GAMES) > Super Perfect Cell, Mid-High Diff
SSJ3 Goku (CELL GAMES) > Super Perfect Cell, Low Diff
SSJ Goku (CELL GAMES) < Super Perfect Cell, Low-Mid Diff
If Goku trains to specifically become SSJ2 would'nt he try to be close to full power SSJ 1 Gohan before transformation SSJ2? In that case he would be as strong as Gohan or even more with his fighting experience. Therefore, i believe he would surpass PCell and SPCell.
nice video bro :D
I forgot gohan did slow kakarot down so kakarot had to sacrifice his own training gohan
I think most agree that ssj2 Goku would have beaten the brakes off of Cell but would ultimately lose if Cell regenerated.
So ssj2 goku in the cell ark might loose to super perfect cell but ssj2 goku in the buu ark would destroy cell
I think with SSJ2, Goku would definitely be strong enough to beat Perfect Cell, especially since even though Goku doesn't get the same rage boost as Gohan, being enraged make him stronger as well.
But yeah Goku would lose to Super Perfect Cell
Goku wouldn't win with SSJ2 but it WOULD be closer than you'd think. Unless you give him mastered or at least as much as in the Buu Saga then he can win.
Bro are you completely stupid cell used almost all his power in the fight and you going to tell me that Goku being 150 times stronger wouldn't win your smoking crack
Goku admitted he was stronger than vegeta
The only time ss 2 goku beats cell if it’s after pikkon fight but before pikkon he definitely loses
Otherworld Tournament Arc isn’t canon
@ it is canon to me since it happened in z and not gt
@saulgoodmanskinwho cares about cannon lil bro? Toriyama himself stated that Dragonball is both Manga and Anime. You power scalers is pathetic😂
@@edogawaconan945 Uhm, canon just means “main continuity” essentially, which the video is discussing.
Nice projection though buddy. Definitely isn’t pathetic projecting and insulting a random comment over nothing on a damn Dragon Ball UA-cam “power-scaling” video
Maybe learn some self-awareness as you literally clicked on a versus video.
@@Cousinbiddy1 Z is canon to GT though. Z isn’t canon to the main continuity
Stop trying to downplay Goku and are you talking about buu arc SSJ2 Goku because he slams mid diff
Cell wasn’t even using half his power when fighting Goku and used more more against ssj gohan you go with ssj2 only being a 2x boost then there definitely a chance that ssj2 would still lose
SS2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell but not Super Perfect Cell
Super Vegeta 1,200,000,000
USS Trunks 2,100,000,000
Perfect Cell Suppressed 1,600,000,000
Power Weighted 2,800,000,000
FPSS Goku 50% 1,500,000,000
SS Vegeta 2,200,000,000
SS Trunks 1,800,000,000
Piccolo 800,000,000
FPSS Goku 3,000,000,000
Cell 3,500,000,000
FPSS Gohan 4,000,000,000
SS2 Gohan 8,000,000,000
Cell Full Power 5,000,000,000
Power Weighted Cell 7,500,000,000
Super Perfecf Cell 8,000,000,000
So if Goku went SS2 his power level would be 6,000,000,000 enough to take down Perfect Cell but not Super Perfect
No I don’t agree. Goku simply did reach that high in power that time & cell & Goku were stronger. But if Goku had more time to train, he could become stronger & strongest. His SS2 would be stonger than Gohan,s SS2.
saying "if" doesn't mean that he does
Gohan was literally stated to be stronger than goku
this is like saying what if goku trained a little more before cell this is a completely different conversation
Goku or vegeta still would win against cell if they go ssj2 plot would allow them just like daima
You saying sperfect cell was anywhere near ssj2 gohans power is just false imo.
Cell got clapped by a 50% power ssj2 gohan in a beam struggle (i know he got a bit of help, but still 50% clapped super perfect cells 100%!).
One hand at that. Cell got one hit slap by pikkon who got beaten by SSJ Goku.
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Goku and gohan were relative at the cell saga. Your telling me that gohan was SOO over goku at the mastered super saiyen level that goku would lose as a ssj2. I think you guys are forgetting what logic is. Heck i would bet even a ssj2 trunks would beat cell
Gohan had a rageboost on top of ssj2
Gohan was vastly stronger than Goku. Gohan literally thought that Goku's full power was him playing around.
And the gap widens even more with SSJ2 + hidden power unlock.
@Top_E_Official no he wasn't. Gohan couldn't believe how strong goku was at half power.
He was stronger 20-30% then Goku max. No where does it state Gohan was vastly more powerful then goku because he wasn't.
Yall making stuff up. This video is silly. Goku as a ssj2 would destroy cell. Ssj2 would destroy cell period at this time. Yall forgetting what made Gohan so strong was the ssj2 goku seen it wasn't his ssj1. Ssj2 goku seen it knew it was incredible and was needed. Gohan only git it through rage like everything else Gohan did. This video is so stupid lmbo
@bombyo3634 Goku confirmed it himself. He even asked Gohan if he thought their fight was awesome. And Gohan said no I thought you guys were toying around.
When Goku powered up to 100%, Gohan was actually extremely unimpressed. Gohan even had an inner monologue where he said why is everyone impressed with this?
@Top_E_Official Gohan said how did his dad have time to get some strong while training him. Did you watch when he only did 50% at korin tower? Gohan was suprised. At the tournament he realized he was stronger. So yes Gohan thought his dad was stronger because of the training you must have missed that episode. Gohan ssj form was stronger then goku but not to the point where people are acting like goku full power is only a portion or Gohan. Yall people are insane to think that.
this is one of the most moronic dbz debates ever and that’s saying a lot ssj2 goku slaps perfect cell. super perfect cell is much closer and i could see it goin either way. goku and gohan were equal in strength (as shown in time chamber when goku wins) so why if goku turned ssj2 why wouldn’t he beat perfect cell who gohan was toying with. also gohan rage boosts wasn’t as significant it mostly just the ssj2 u can tell by how calm gohan was he wasn’t actually engaged like when he was on namek so this debate is stupid
Yeah the only problem with that is that korin stated that cell hasn't revealed his true power so korin could have just been comparing Goku power to cell possible true power in his mind. Also while I do believe that grade 3 trunks was stronger than a heavily suppressed cell as we found out when he fought Gohan . it probably wasn't by that much especially towards the end of the fight because not only cell was taking damage from grade 3 trunks he was also still able to damage trunks when he hits trunks. of course I still think trunks is stronger but judging that trunks wasn't immune to his attacks. When cell hits him trunks is probably just 1.5x or probably 30% strongerthan cell at that time . and you don't really have any proof that cell was using the same power as he did against grade 3 trunks since cell was constantly suppressing his true power even when he fought trunks he only used his full power when Gohan went ssj2.
goku wouldve just stacked kioken times 3x with super saiyan and he would win easily but would be really tired or be knocked out after the fight but plot was against it
Super Perfect Cell > SSJ2 Goku (Cell games) > Perfect Cell
Wait what? Base gohan is stronger than goku??
In the Bus Saga Majin Vegeta literally tells Goku that he is currently stronger than Gohan was against Cell at Super Saiyan 2... so question answered without an 8 min video
This is cell saga goku if he got ss2 not buu saga goku
Super perfect cell was stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Gohan from the cell games so it's not clear
@@-Extra_Liveshe wasn't tho, a healthy Ssj2 gohan would shit on him no diff
@ he actually wasn’t stronger than gohan seeing as how gohan beat him with one arm 😂😂😂
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Agreed. This was recently discussed in the dbs subreddit
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But Goku wasn't at super saiyan 2 when he fought cell. The first sayian to reach super sayian 2 was Gohan
Yeah, thats the point. They are talking about a theoretical situation where, instead of training Gohan, Goku focuses on his own training to unlock Super Saiyan 2 himself. Essentially asking if a theoretical Super Saiyan 2 Goku would have been able to win against Cell like Super Saiyan 2 Gohan did.
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