Olive Oil is OUT, Canola Oil is IN! 31 Days of Soapmas, Day 2
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2023
- Today we are talking about trends in soapmaking for 2023, specifically addressing why canola oil soaps are making an appearance and olive oil is being criticized as a lesser soap oil. Day 2/31 Days of Soapmas!
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Omg?!! I so love your videos ! I’ve been using canola oil instead of olive oil forever
I was reading an article about olive oil going up in price due to weather conditions lower production
Plus, according to experts, as much as 80% of the Olive Oil sold is not pure but has been mixed with... yeah, you guessed it.
I have been using canola oil instead of olive oil in my soaps. I am so relieved to see this video. us poor people like to make soap too.
❤❤😂😂😂 beginner soap maker I am excited 2024T&T
Love you too and praying for everyone who is going through hard times.
Love your channel, watch most of your videos (because life happens and I miss a few), and I rarely comment. But that doesn't mean I don't love your content. Just stopped in to say a big AMEN regarding what people say in soap forums (especially Facebook) and your comment that we shouldn't take a lot of stock into what is being said in them. I am an avid gardener, raise chickens (yes, I am a chicken tender), and I also have a soap business. The drama that happens in soap forums is so much more than in my gardening or chicken forums (althought backyard chicken tenders are pretty judgemental, at times. I ignore most of what is said, and instead, rely on reading infomation written by reliablly known experienced soapmakers, like yourself. Thank you for this video. Unfortunately, I recently purchased my latest bulk order of oils, which included olive oil from my supplier, so I am set, but you can bet I will be looking into this if prices don't stabilize by the time I need to buy more.
Thank You for all your useful knowledge!
Another beautiful soap! I've been using canola for a while and am happy with it. I love Soapmas. It's my time to relax and feel connected... this season is wearing me down this year. Hope you're well!
Shaping saved me from going deeper in depression and I absolutely appreciate fellow shapers sharing and fellowship ❤
I’ve used canola for years myself with no problems, and my family has always enjoyed my soap! I’ll have to check my recipes to see if there’s a common denominator for DOS prevention, I agree that one or more has likely been helpful for that, however I’ve always thought that oil about to go rancid was more likely the culprit than anything else….(shrug). Haven’t made a batch in awhile, so now I think I will. :) Love your vids!
Still working through all your vids...dang you weren't kidding, there are A LOT!! Anyway, just wanted to tell you I'm enjoying and learning 😊❤
❤❤❤❤❤ love your philosophy. We have no real estate space in our brain for messy ppl
I really enjoy your very informative videos. I'm a new soap maker stepping into the soap world for my family and friends. Thank you for everything you do❤.
Love this... I have canola oil in my soap too! Granted it's addition to Olive oil but with all the nice Butters & oils in the recipe, it certainly helps the bottom line!
I went to the store and a 12 oz Olive oil was 12$....I was like oh no!
I’ve been wanting to try canola oil. I know it’s similar to a lot of “acceptable”
Oils.
Learned something new today! Thanks!
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Your right. The soap Queen said you can use up to 40% canola.
Thank you! I'm new to soaping. 😊
Just made my first Canola oil soap a few weeks ago. Can't wait to try them out🤞🏻🤞🏻
Seen and heard. Thank you! Appreciate you.
I appreciate YOU!
Totally agree with you ❤
At Soaper’s Choice, the 35lb. cubetainer (what I buy), has HO sunflower cheaper than canola… and I’ve been using HO sunflower the whole time, so that’s what I’ve been sticking with, but I don’t see why canola as an issue either.
Hello, Im a newbi to the whole soap thing, thanks and talking about the oil, I wont feel bad if and when I try something new.
If no one has told you today… I APPRECIATE YOU!! I am so sorry that folks can’t just scroll on if they down agree. Suds your way!!!
Thank you for this video. This is the very reason I stay away from the Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and ticktock posts. I watch videos of the ones I choose. The positive videos. Once it goes negative on others i leave.
First time soaper and viewer (with a Chemistry background) to your site. Your videos are wonderfully informative, in-depth discussions, and the chances to see your techniques so generosity shared. Heartfelt thanks!
I cant afford Olive oil no more so i replace it with a mix of avocado oil and canola oil.
Great idea!
I love your vids. I’m a new Soaper but I have been working with essential oils and carrier oils for a while as a salve and balm maker. I tend to veer towards non commonplace carrier oils so I get excited when you reach for an out of the box oil 🥰
Have used canola oil a number of times and later when using those soaps I am always like “oh this is a great soap…” and when I go back to look at the recipe almost every time it has canola in it! Thanks for sharing😊
I've only had one recipe that got DOS...I used a 5% chia oil in a special request soap (which they never collected) that hung around until I gifted it to people.
Thank you for the informative videos. I found Soapcalc intimidating and you helped me through that. Now I'm willing to try Canola oil in my recipes. Really appreciate your teaching and encouragement.
I've been using canola for years too and although I do get dos the 'odd' time I actually prefer to have it in my soap, it actually feels more moisturizing than without it. 🤷♀️
I think I would rather wash canola oil down the drain as on soap than having it in my food. I want to eat my olive oil
I think I'm going to try it. The olive oil I was buying has gone from 19$ to 40$
The gatekeeping on those forums is so toxic. Havent used Canola yet, but probably will soon, as i am almost out of my olive from soapers choice
I’ve used canola in place of OO for years!
I still use OO too
The DOS come from too much super fat too. Soooo…
What superfat do you use? Thanks
I always do olive oil/coconut oil soaps as my basic recipe. I'm doing a test batch of 2/3 canola to 1/3 coconut oil. I never thought of using canola oil at all. I hope it works out. My first batch took about 3 times as long to come to trace.
I appreciate your video. I recently started my soap making journey and have been using canola oil along with 2 other oils. I had no idea that it was a thing of this oil not being used. I love the results and will continue to use it when making soap. Keeping it cheap & simple is best in my opinion, it’s all going down the drain anyways 🤷🏽♀️
❤️ love it! Thank you ❤️
So I’m excited to see some awesome canola oil recipes you might share with us! I haven’t really made up my mind on the couple mainstay recipes most diapers stick with for the majority of their products. I’m liking so many different recipes, it’s really hard to narrow it down, so I’m always super excited when I can get my hands on a new recipe to try out! I’m looking in your videos for the one you mentioned in this video you shared a bit ago, could you tell me what one it is? I’ve used one of your recipes with canola oil in it and it’s one of my favorites.
And what heck is it with auto correct why it doesn’t like the word “soaper “ ??? Now it’s filling in with diaper… I guess I should look over my comments before I hit post huh lol
Yeah like when are you EVER talking about diapers? 😂 which video - I think I talked about three or more in this one and I tried to link them.
Yayyy get home fr9m Salon hell to a new video! HAPPY DANCE!!
Salon hell? I love the salon!
@MrsSoapAndClay OH it's the most wonderful (crazy busy) time of the year!!!
@MrsSoapAndClay as some of my favorite people say...Tis the damn Season lmao
I hit low bottom by accident, so i hit like bottom, just learning to make better soaps. I did canola oil one time and i used a soap calculator. Is was 100 % canola oil. The scent that i use is rose 🌹 dipped in sodium hydroxide and then drained. Is smell good.
Boy those are pretty!
Thanks for the video. I wish more people did more canola/rapeseed oil videos. I'm going to be making the switch just because I'm a hobby maker and prices went from £3.90 to £6.75 per litre for olive oil at my local supermarkets whereas canola works out at £1.60 per litre. Luckily I still haven't gotten around to paying for a CPSR yet as I just love experimenting with different oils/butters so much. So at the moment it's an expensive hobby which my friends and colleagues are greatly enjoying 😅. I wouldn't mind being able to sell my soaps even just to get back the cost of materials but I begrudge having to stick to one set recipe here in the UK.
I probably haven't been making soap long enough to know canola was hated on. I've mostly stuck to palm, olive and coconut because that's all I know. So thank you for going through the fatty acid break down and explaining this because I would much rather pay 1/3 of the price
Thank you , I will use canola oil to make a batch tomorrow. Its called rapeseed oil in the uk , and cold pressed rapeseed oil is also a good oil to use for cooking too. Olive oil has doubled in price here . I will get regular canola oil for the soap which i make for our personal use and give to my family and friends as gifts. Thanks
You are right, the right name is rapeseed oil or colza. For marketing they use the name canola. I was reading a few months ago about the canola in a website I didn't remember right know but the information I was reading is excellent and debunking some myths about canola oil. The thing is people demonizing canola oil in soap. But they forget many cosmetic ingredients are made with rapeseed oil like Btms 25 and 50... I have been experimenting with canola oil this months and have great result.
So glad you put this content out there. I have stopped buying olive oil for soaps as in south Africa the last time I bought 5l for R750 where as i swoppednit for either sun flower oil or canola oil and its working we.. ❤ R150 for 5l is a huge difference. I did not even know Canola oil did that.. 😂 thank you.. much love...
I love your videos. You don’t go with the fake trend !!! Cool to know from you is good !! I am glad to know it. I soap at 9% super fat. I will add citric acid and sodium lactate. Can you try to add hydrogenated soy wax in soap of sunflower oil . It would be interesting to know what do you think about it. ❤
Very interesting. I think canola has always had a bad rap maybe stemming from a nutritional standpoint. But we’re not eating the soap ( no matter how good it smells). This is definitely something I’m going to consider. I have been feeling the sting (turned into a slap!) of the increasing cost of olive oil. I definitely won’t be raising my prices or adjusting the size of my soaps. Thank you for your video!
Never had a problem with DOS
Do you have a recipe with canola in it similar to the one you used?
Love your videos. Besides clay, what other natural additives that you recommend that can help prevent DOS?
Soap nuts. There’s a few videos showing different ways to incorporate them.😊
I've been using Canola oil since just after I started. Have MANY soaps under the name "Gina's Clean & Natural". I've had 3 customers who wouldn't buy due to Canola oil but hundreds who don't mind and LOVE my soaps. 😁
I use canola oil all the time. Those soap forum people are petty and dramatic and weird in the worst way. And former sudser talking shit? Reeks of jealousy imo. Anyway I love your lavender honey soap! ❤️ and also love you 😘
Love YOU!
It's used canola (rapeseed) lol for years in my soaps. Not had DOS ever. I use kaolin and salt. Maybe you're correct and this does make a difference.
I use canola because its more cost effective but im cautious and use it in small amounts. What would you suggest someone infuse with or add in addition to canola oil to prevent DOS or to prevent too high of linoleic and linolenic acids? (And i feel like i read once that too high of linoleic and linolenic acid can cause rancidity, is that correct?)
Ii had dreaded orange spots once! After I made a mini batch of plain basic lard soap I helped with the soap making, long time ago. My bar came spectacular! I decided to make Allepo soap my first soap! Lol!
Wow! Go big or go home, eh!?!
Only time I've ever had DOS is doing a 100% and 90% Lard soap. This was also before I started adding Sodium Lactate and Citric Acid. Now, that I know this I might try again just for kicks and giggles.
@@RisaL-13interesting. I haven’t had issues with lard. I wonder if it’s because of the sodium lactate?
@@MsAubrey according to Mrs. It helps prevent DOS! 🤷🏻♀️
@@RisaL-13 and see, I have been using sodium lactate all this time simply because I’m impatient and want to unmold as soon as I can. 😂
I just bought some Canola because OO is so high. My mother didn't believe that's what it's for and used it to fry chicken 😂. That's what I get for buying it with my groceries
Here in the UK canola is called Rapeseed oil, and I’m really keen to use it in my soap as it’s grown here in the UK…which is great for the air miles. Olive oil costs more than a bottle of wine now…so I’d love to replace it, but have been worried about the DOS. Really interested in your comments about chelators. I don’t really have a good understanding of chelators. So is Sodium lactate and citric acid (I know you have to adjust the lye for citric acid) good chelators? I don’t tend to use much in the way of clays…but maybe I should? Time to get reformulating 😁 btw…I love your channel as you explain the science which is what I love about soap making 💕
Citric acid is for sure. Sodium lactate is more for bar hardening. Kaolin clay is relatively inexpensive and off white, so you can still add mica to get colors… it’ll be a bit muted, but you’ll still get pretty coloring.😊
Oh… and soap nuts are a nice addition. There’s videos of how you can incorporate them.
I was in your website to look at your soap with canola oil. None there.
True! I don’t currently have any soaps with canola oil for sale. My main flagship soap recipes were formulated without around a decade ago. I use it a lot in wholesale accounts, all of my monthly specialty soaps, etc.
I have made a few batches with canola and was so worried I was doing something bad.. The soap came out amazing. I was going to toy with vegatable shortening but am afraid that would be pushing the limits. What are your thoughts on this. Your opinion matters to me more than anyone else! You have made me so successful in my journey journey.
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So I made a shortening soap on the channel over the summer and I LOVED the hand feel of it.
Only dos I've had was in a Castile soap.......100% olive.
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Does dos make anything unusable about the soap or is it just aesthetic? Right now I make pretty basic soaps for family- not retail and if it had orange spots in it, it just might be visually interesting lol. BTW this is a beautiful soap !
Honestly people report that it has an off smell if DOS develop, but I still don’t see that as an unusable bar for personal use. There are loads of smelly soaps out there. 😂
Ughh it's always people smh. Mmm I can smell the lavender honey through the screen!
Thank you for doing this! I knew you used Canola oil, but I've been hesitant to make the jump. Just doing a straight replacement of Canola for the Olive in my current favorite recipe, some numbers jump out at me but I don't know how critical they are.
(Olive:Canola)
Iodine (65:75);
Sat:Unsat (38:63 vs. 33:67);
INS (138:118).
I've heard in the past about keeping the Sat:Unsat at 40:60, INS at around 140 or 160 (I can't remember now) and I don't know what the Iodine is about. Will these changes in numbers make a significant difference? What kind of importance should we be putting on these numbers? I already include clay, SL60 & Citric Acid in all my recipes, so yay for the bonus properties! Thanks for all you do!
SL60? I'm not sure what that is.
@@nancykelly9712 Sodium Lactate 60.
Ah yes, I just figured that out! I don't make soap without that either. I even add it to my sea salt soap! It just unmolds and hardens up better!👍
I honestly don’t think there’s enough difference in those numbers to worry about. They’re close enough to provide similar results.
Canola oil was a FB "argument" the other day, and people just got ugly with their comments. It's ridiculous now people want to shove their opinions down other people's collective throats. My guess would be that the vast majority of those opinionated people have no real knowledge about the properties of each of the oils. I use canola and have never had any problems. I'm watching today to learn more about the various clays. TY for this video.
Did you see the one a few days ago where someone claimed that canola was poison and a byproduct of petroleum? Just…like the Google is RIGHT THERE. 💀
You used the term, key later, that's what it sounded like, what does that mean?
Hey! Chelators are additives included in many soap recipes to help with hard water and soap scum.
I was thinking of using grape seed oil soap because olive oil is way too much. Has anyone used it?
Hey! I’ve used Grapeseed in soap, but since the fatty acids are wildly different than olive, it would not be a good substitute.
I’ve used grape-seed in my recipes before but as Mrs. S&C said, it’s definitely different from olive oil. HO Sunflower is what I’m moving to for an olive oil replacement.
@@MsAubrey I’ve seen sunflower oil and thought of using it as well. Thank you and 🤞🏼 it’s a win for us.
@@betsycarrion4716 I get my base oils from Soaper’s Choice. HO sunflower in a 7 lb. container, it’s only $13.51. In the 35# containers (what I buy), it’s $60.20. The 35# is a thick plastic cube with a faucet inside a thick cardboard box.
@@MsAubrey that’s a great price. I’ll check it out ,Thank you
I use canola oil in alot of recipes I use shea and cocoa butter using it makes my recipe more fuild I have had some one tell me I can’t use that 😂but I do but I put a lot of different oils I’m always making different recipes 😂
You’re forever a mad scientist!
Lol I love it tho
Sometimes, ppl write stupid stuff just to see their words in print. Sounds like an ego issue! 😮 Use whatever oils you want. I like using tallow. So sue me! I'm just a hobbyist so you won't get any money 😂 Better yet...it's suet. Love, love your videos!!! Do your own thing. No need to conform to society norms!
I’m toying with the idea of making a dual animal fat soap. 😊
I want to buy your dish soap
I *think* I still have stock on the site.
Canola is definitely not considered a "cooler" oil, it is actually considered a crap oil because of the food industry. It's considered the diesel oil of cooking oils. Its curb appeal is very low, so low that to have it on a label is the problem with people's perception of it as a junk cooking oil. Because of that for me it would be better to use Sunflower or Safflower as the normal consumer/public will not know as much about these oils and they look better on a label. If it's about sales for a soaper, I would for sure stay clear of Canola.
I mean, it’s cool to have opinions. My experience re: sales and label appeal differs from yours and isn’t that fun? I would for sure stay away from stating anecdotal opinions as a fact that should be applied to all soapmakers.
@@MrsSoapAndClay you completely misread tones here, I'm not saying I would not use Canola oil, or that others shouldn't. You are stuck on the fact that I called out the word you used as "cool" about canola oil. Nothing can make Canola oil cool, not even your absurd uppity attitude. Perhaps Canola oil is not as trendy as you want it to be. LOL
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