Ford F-150 Lightning vs Tesla Model 3 Performance Drag Race - It’s Much Closer Than You Think!
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Crazy days when a stock pickup is one of the faster vehicles at th track. You’re consistent enough that you could go bracket racing.
Bracket races are dominated by Tesla's these days. The competition is really tight with electric vehicles being so consistent.
You ever seen an Ecoboost run?
@@FlameOnTheBeat TRX run very low 12's. Lighting was doing high 12's all day.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 The TRX did a 13.8.. Not 12's
Sitting on stock all-seasons, no tonneau cover.. Unbelievable!
Hey Mike. This is the Tesla leather gloves guy. It was a pleasure racing you.
I LOVE the sound of a powerful engine. But the electrics are sooo fast!! I drove a Tesla, and the acceleration is just insane.
As a daily driver of a model 3 performance… yeah. It never gets old 😂
Drive a plaid. It’s literally next level. Like your brain can’t compute how this thing moves so fast.
Tesla motor is MAX speed: 18,000 RPM
You might really like the new EV Dodge Chargers! All the performance of the EVs, but with VROOOOM SOUNDS!!!!! LOL
@@ChrisLeiter It will when you have to replace the battery.
I have to say, this sure gives me new respect for EV's. Having owned Trans Ams and Camaros most of my life, getting to the high 12's is something to be proud of. Now, a Ford F150 does it without any mods! Either way though, ICE or EV, it takes a lot of money to get to these numbers.
Base model lightning is 40K tho. That ain't t bad. This wasn't a base, but I believe the base is the same where it matters
Ya the thing is there are really no mods for this maybe a better tire set up, so that where most of the trucks will be stuck at
Have you driven a new GAS Mustang V/8 with a 10 speed automatic lately? It'll blow all this GREEN stuff to the curb box stock. Without having to plan trips based on charging stations along the way. BTW would you look forward to standing by your GREEN ride at the charging station during an terrific lightning storm? LOL
@@XXPS60, when I get one, it will charge at home about 98% of the time. The range is more than enough for my daily driving. Long trips will require some planning, but charging infrastructure is getting better with time.
@@XXPS60 We raced my buddies slightly modded c8 vette a few weeks ago against my Tesla Model 3 performance. The Vette didn't even come close to standing a chance. It looked like a child's toy. That vette would definitely be quicker than a stock 5.0
Nice. Looks like the Lightning is put together better than the Mach E.
Electric cars are expensive toys. I have a Honda civic
I have had my lightning since June 3rd, lariat with extended range. it's like nothing I have driven before. I love this truck. Also keep in mind that this truck weights in at around 6600 lbs!
Don't talk about weight, it's weigh that much because of battery, which is not useless.
@@currycel470 of course I will talk about weight. Weight is weigh regardless of where it's at. It affects range, speed, towing, road wear, vehicle registration, wear and tear on parts, I could go on...
@@currycel470 my 1997 Ford 350 weigh around 7,200 lbs , and can pull the same as that electric Ford and still have about 70 miles to go before tank is empty
@@EarthSouthside You're waiting for the 3rd generation of this truck then. So about 7-10 years.
If the pro model came with the extended battery I would be all over it. The price difference between the regular and extended range batteries is ridiculous
Taking an electric truck to a drag strip makes no sense and I love it. Keep up the good work guys!
Taking most modern performance cars to a drag strip these days makes no sense! Launch control, engine management, automatic transmission and all in a straight line, it's nothing more than a reaction test. Can do that with an app on the sofa! ;)
@@djtaylorutube Well you can modify them. I modify my Tesla all the time. Its just a different skill set, from mechanic to engineer.
@@KrAOLo What sort of modifications? That's a genuine question.
Taking a tesla electric vehicle to a drag makes no sense either
@@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 ...don't be butt hurt when our EVs beat your combustion engines!
Gotta love the relaxed dad&son having fun atmosphere - good times and an awesome car!
Only the electric American cars are winning...
High altitude drag racing w electric is the ultimate advantage
Very consistent run times, nicely done. 👌
Loved the “100 lbs or more!” 😂😂😂 … Nice racing video. 😎🛻🍷
Plus camera bag at 12:50
Good times . That caddy V surprised me in making up from start. Electric ⚡️ torque is awesome
Bone stock and factor tires in a full-size four-door truck turning 12s. Unbelievable but there it is.
Plus it can tow 10,000 pounds and go off-road!
@@Renniz72 with that weight range is only about 70 miles.
You should always turn A/C off as it drips water on the track...
Facts!
Man those Tesla’s are fast, and no drama.
Tommy thinking the Lightning would run 15s made my day, then running a 12.11 was the perfect surprise.
Can we just stop and appreciate a $50k, 4-door family car running 11.65?!
should be running around 11.2 my model 3 with accel boost runs 11.68 at 36k dollars
Love this video! That Tesla Plaid is insane!
That was truly amazing! looks like you all had a blast. Lightning was impressive
My friend had a model s plaid, and it was pretty nice. When they sold it though and they got the Ford f150 lightning my god we loved that thing.
You beat the CTS-V, you got the win light. She had a bad reaction time. Take the win!
So how much battery was left after eight passes down the track?
Please please please oh PLEASE pit the Lightning against a Rivian here! I would LOVE to see that!
The Rivian is faster than the TRX. The TRX is faster than the Lightning. What would be the point.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 trx ran 13.8 lightning ran 12.8
A stock pickup solidly in the 12s. Amazing, and it's dead quiet and rides like a dream.
Very consistant runs! Nice!
Curious what those 8 runs did to the battery's state of charge.
The SOC on a lightning is a setting controlled by the PCM. Putting the vehicle in sport puts the SOC value at 50. Once disabled i believe it's set back to 65. For some reason though. I believe that you may be talking about something else.
@@EarthSouthside not sure where you are getting that info from but I did 10-15 runs with my Tesla M3P and never dipped in performance, consistent 11.7. My battery went from 73 to 48.
@@EarthSouthside seriously?!? 😳
Better than the mustang mach e
The true test should be drag racing while towing 10k behind you 🤣
Great video btw, great father son dynamic.
Oh man, what would the dragstrip do if you showed up with a mini-excavator strapped to the back?
I want to see an Ike Gauntlet uphill tow going for the fastest time possible.
You did Great Tommy!! It's a New truck...might take some time to get used to it... Great racing!!
Glad you guys took it to the track. Need to spend some more time there your online audiance would probably enjoy it too
I thought running the A/C while on the track was a big “no no” due to the potential of dripping water on the track and the potential for causing accidents. I definitely haven’t see performance decreases when running A/C like in a gas car.
I hope someone will let me know about the water on the track.
Yes...I made a comment about it too.
This guy seems to be a complete dirtbag with no regard as to the safety of others. I hope the track bans him from attending future events.
it is a huge no no.
@@cmiller8006 that is what I thought. Thanks for confirming, as I’ve never personally been to a drag strip racing.
Maybe for sub 10 or 8 second non street legal cars. Most won’t have AC. But for street legal drags it’s not a big deal. I’ve even seen some put ice on their intercoolers/intake manifolds before a race.
@@TobyCostaRica they specifically tell you not to at Norwalk. I've seen people turned around do to the evaporator dripping
I was genuinely surprised when that truck chirped the tires on the Ike gauntlet challenge. And no BS my guess was that you would run a 12.89 looks like I was right on the money
That plaid tho🔥
Thx, that was a lot of fun watching. I had no idea how exciting to watch normal people with normal cars drag racing. And @11:01 , who would have thunk a Tundra would beat a Mustang.
Tommy, when that last amber light lights up you go… don’t wait for the green!
Can't wait to see it vs the cybertruck
In 2035
Drag racing is fun, lot better use of leisure time than watching television!
I am a dino (mainly diesel) guy all the way but when I heard about the lightning I had to test drive one. Then there was NO way I wasn't buying one. It took two month to find one but my God it is wayyyyyy too much fun to be legal! Nice to see all the positive comments, unlike instagram where it is all hate. I still absolutely love my F250 7.3 diesel but in all honesty I have only touched the keys 2 times in the 3 months of owning the Lightning. And the wrangler and 76 nova have sat untouched since. The ride in the lightning is just that great!!!
Consistent 12.8-12.9 over and over. Looks like with a good launch it could get 12.7-12.6, maybe on a cool day.
Starts at 4:06
Pretty impressive for sure.
Tommy, don’t wait to see the green light. You got to go on the bottom bulb.
Add .2 - .3 street times due to track timing rollout plus the added traction of lane rubber and some leftover glue. The record setting tesla plaid only comes with 275 width street rated tires. Electric traction and power aids are outstanding compared to ice cars rwd.
I really miss Bandimere, but I don't miss the DA for ICE vehicles. Also, Ecoboost F-150s are definitely running 12s and 13s with tunes.
Very cool. Now make it a 1 ton and have it get 400-500 mile range. Baby steps, I know.
They'll be at 1000 miles in 3-4 years.
@@uowebfoot Lol in your dreams. The Model S long range has had around the same range for years now and the only competitor is Lucid which is claiming 500 in their $150,000 car. Gas is still king in the range department. A $25,000 Prius can do 800 miles.
@@UProductions457^
State of charge matters too
Wait till a Shelby or Super Snake comes out.
I think this truck is best suited in a 1/8 mile drag strip. The top end power loss really diminishes its power
This was amazing and fun. Thanks for uploading this video.
Can't wait for the Tesla Cyber truck to come out with four electric motors. It'll literally be a Plaid +1.
Sure, in 2035
Awesome stuff man. The plaid vs the vette, soon as the vette changed gears it was over for him. That constant electric power is a beast!! Your ford lightning is super awesome too. Definitely is no slouch n will surely surprise a lot of ppl I’m the streets.
Torque, not power.
@@rogerstarkey5390 enough power to get a few wins out there
The Vette actually won. They both red light, but the plaid red light first.
@@allterrainrandy2587 ain’t getting technical just enjoyed the footage 🤷🏾♂️ loosen up bro
Tommy. Just an fyi. You don’t take off when you see green. You take off when the last amber goes off. On some vehicles that are slower to start moving, you take off while the last a,beer is lit.
After recalling the struggles of breaking into 13's with a fourth gen Fbody Z28.... freaking blown away by these EVs and that freaking Tesla in the 9s!
Yep my lightning blows the doors off my ls2 gto with full bolt-ons.
@@ryanwalters6184just picked up a lightning as well. lol amazing.
Roman is loving it. Nice to see him having so much fun; makes it fun for me.
Best job in the world
Nice runs! Glad to see real track results instead of keyboard racing. Regarding the chick in the CTS V, look at the time slip... she let off just past the 1/8 mile. Her speed at the 1/8 mile was 97 and her speed at the 1/4 was 100. What was the state of charge in the Lightning? I know that in my Model Y performance there is a steady decline in 1/4 mile time as SOC goes down.
With a bit larger tires you could bring you top end up, but you will loose a bit off the line. Turn on the dif lock and off traction control. If you tires slip you might try airing them down just a tiny bit. You might also power break if the truck lets you.
It's already in SPORT mode.
I think what I love about this channel besides the quality of content is watching these guy love what they do and watching sub count go up. Well on ya way to 100k and up !
Nice to see the Lightning in action. Good showing, and you can still tow 10k!
Tesla S Plaid should do low 9's. Not sure why that guy is running mid 9's. Must have a passenger with him.
or not fully charged.
Tree light was like GO!!…Tommy was like: “what do I want for lunch today?”
Try it against the model 3 sr+ apparently they have simile numbers
Curious if the Lightning has a speed limiter and that the reason it dropped power was because you were approaching the limiter.
Probably 117MPH limit...what typical full size truck tires are speed rated for
Great video, the lightning is impressive. I really hope this truck is a success
Already is....it's sold out.
Model 3 vs lightning close? A full second slower is A LOT of time lol
Closer than you’d have guessed I bet. Truly impressive vehicles both
@@smartelectriccar you are new to the drag racing world. A full second is a lot of time…
The Caddy posted a quicker time but the truck actually won the race because you crossed the finish line first. Pretty impressive number considering the power to weight ratio.👍👍🇨🇦
Thanks for taking us to the drag strip... more of these please
Tommy, I'm the guy in the Tesla Model 3 Performance. Richard
Bracket racing times! Very impressive and consistent.
That's literally how computers work. They only do what you tell them to do. If you ask them the do the same thing over and every again millions of times per second, that is exactly what they will do.
They don't have the variability that ICE engines do. It's literally expected that they perform consistently every single time. That's how transistors work...if it weren't for this reliability, no computer would ever function correctly.
There really is no surprise here.
@@RK-kn1ud But because of batteries, you can only do a few runs before your battery overheats and you have almost no power.
I'm only at 1:57 and I know the 15s comment is just for entertainment value and shock at the real number. Way to juice up the video Tommy. Finished it. Great video guys request more from this raceway.
You beat that Caddy! The lights on your side of the board lit up indicating you crossed the finish line first. She beat your time, but you finished first so you won the race! :) You won because your reaction time was better.
That was soo consistent!
I feel like this is just the start! No doubt that this is the future! in another 10 years, or so, these EV's will be lighter, faster, and more efficient!
Yes. They're called Tesla's
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 , the model S is extremely fast. There's definitely room for improvement. I recently saw a new start up company for EV batteries. He claims his new lighter batteries will get 7-800 mile range. The batteries being so heavy is the biggest hindrance in the range....
I have a M3performance in black . I got behind some crazy looking hyper car going onto the interstate the other day he punched it (man it had a sweet exhaust note) I had to let off after half a second at full throttle so I wouldn't run over him. they are stupid fast right now.
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This means that the 6600 lbs of the current 2022 Ford F150 Lightning that is 1800 pounds of battery and 4800 pounds of body structure can be reduced to 2400 pounds of body structure and 900 pounds of battery using Aluminum-Sulfur batteries or Graphene Supercapacitors. That is a 3400 lbs worth of weight reduction!
THAT MEANS the Future All-Carbon-Kevlar composite fibre-based Ford F150 Lightning will be 3200 lbs versus today's 6600 lbs. Even the suspension springs/coils and wheels can be made of the stronger and more resilient carbon-kevlar composites! That also means the all-carbon composite fibre-based F150 Lightning will be able to carry 5200 lbs in the back bed versus the 1800 lbs it currently carries! Plus carbon-kevlar-composite-fibre body panels and ladder frames are STIFFER and STRONGER (tensile, torsion, shear, compression-wise) than steel or aluminum!
Hard to beat that!
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Hey Roman. You won the race against that Cadillac. The win light came up for you lane, which means you crossed the finish line first.
The ctsv lifted. No one runs mid 12s at 100mph.
@@turbosix so? Roman still crossed the line first and still got the win light.
@@kelvinhill9874 does a 5 year old actually win when their dad lets them win at basketball? No. Hope this helps!
HEY! I’m bandimere security! I took your picture on your way in! Didn’t know just how big you guys are, cool to see some big guys come up to our track!
Hurray for Bandimere Speedway, family-owned since forever.👍
Would be nice if the lightning had a launch mode for best 0-60 times….
I wonder if with people reporting the fronts scrabble for traction on launch. If Ford could tweak the programming for hard acceleration to put more power to the rear wheels. Or if it already does? 🤔
If you could put an ecoboost engine mated to a generator coil in the bed of a lightning, it would be perfect. No range issues, other than you dying of dehydration before needing to fill up.
*Can't wait to see the Stock CyberTruck chew up the F-150 Lighting and spit it out the back.*
Well the Ford has jumped the start by about 2 years so the cyber truck better be real quick to make up that quarter mile difference
With its massive wiper acting as a sail on the drag strip? Can’t wait.
@@TFLEV *Yeah and GM was the first to the market with the EV1 decades ago and they are in last place in the EV revolution.* *CyberTruck spec already shows that it will blow the F-150 Lighting away like it's still parked.*
You are going to have to wait… if there is one thing Tesla and Elon have delivered more consistently than quick quarter mile times it’s delayed product launches and that was before the supply chain issues/chip shortages.
@@TFLEV Linda Zhang the chief engineer of this truck said they started the program way back in Sep of 2018.
So that's around 44 months from program start to first customer delivery. Cybertruck debuted publicly in Nov 2019 so following the same time span tesla has until Feb 2024 to beat the lightning for the same time to market. I'd bet they easily do beat that milestone. 😎
So no the lightning which is just based on an existing ice platform doesn't have a 2 year jump on the ground up and truly groundbreaking cybertruck. You guys talk so much damn trash about tesla every chance you get. It's like you hate they are an actual American made product that is leading the way in the ev space. 🤔
Interesting how consistent your times were after 8 runs. What was the overall drop in your battery percentage? For me in my model 3 performance, I lose about 1% after every 1/4 mile run.
I feel like thats an acceptable rate.
Crazy 🤣 how fast the truck is. 12.81 in the quarter👏 and at a high elevation. But as racers say "It's bought not built"
I feel like it’s even better because you don’t have to spend more on upgrading.
imagine pulling the bed off and stripping the cab. That thing probably skoots.
@@Xenon-rl1me still has a speed govenor
@@wood-wheel-wizard But it's only going to run the same time. That's no fun, I go for single digits 😏 I'm already there😋 on the street.
@@h.rivera4726 right. It will govern the top speed but it will not govern how fast it gets there.
TY for sharing ... that cutting off power gotta be super annoying, but it's still super fast!! ... I remember how much tuning + bolt ons I had to add to my 93 DSM to run this quick ...
Was that last night? Nice! I hope to get to Bandimere sometime this summer!
Tommy, I hearby challenge you to a race. My '47 Willys vs. your 2CV. Better make it an 1/8 mile -- we ain't got all day
All I can say is wow
That was fun to watch
Dominic Toretto living his life a charge a quarter mile at a time.
That Tesla Model 3 Performance was really slow. If you navigate to a Supercharger before your run it will precondition the battery and run 11.50 or lower with a reasonably charged battery.
Do you what battery temperature provides the best results?
Fun trick, you can navigate to supercharger while you are away from the car by putting a weight on the driver's seat.
@@David-bh2ug I have done a lot of testing and I believe between 53 degrees C and 55.5 degrees C will provide 455 KW of maximum discharge power. That is the highest I have seen.
Lol, no thanks
My non-performance Model 3 with acceleration boost can run about the same time, must have been at a 60% charge.
@@LearningFast dude that’s 610 hp. That’s insane. I thought the car was rated for 500?
For as quick as the Lightning is the 60' is horrendous. I'd expect that kind of time if the truck was losing traction and spinning the tires like ice vehicles typically do.
Rides high and high efficiency tires. Probably too much weight transfer and not enough grip.
Yeah, that was the most surprising part of this, after watching so many tesla videos you get use to the EV's destroying the completion for the first 60 and they have to try to catch up (to non-plaids) . Here it was getting beat in the first 60 (besides just reaction time).
@@curtisbme a stock ecoboost truck with a tune is quicker than this lightning. At sea level they can run 11s.
Anyone that's been to the track on a regular basis the past couple decades should know of the old lightning trucks running but this one is getting highly modified times of the old version in stock forms!
Cant wait for a Cybertruck vs. Lighting drag race.
In 2035
As much as it pains me to say it, Roman completely Embarrassed Tommy on reaction time.
Should have taken off the spare wheel.
Exactly
When a person buys a truck, shouldn't this vehicle do things like tow trailers? Why would anyone want to race a truck?
This video tries to surprise us. However, if you understand EVs, you would know that these vehicles have immediate torque.
When I take off at a light in my Prius, I always beat everyone off the light. Even the other day, a fool in his ICE performance truck was itching to beat me off that light (inching forward). I decided to actually accept the challenge. I beat him badly. He was so mad, he caught up to me (2 blocks away) going 20 mph over the limit.
That vette was pretty much the 2nd fastest thing out there and still a second and half behind the plaid. Can't wait to see what the Tesla sportster will do.
All those finger prints! Great video showcasing the power of an EV. I love the Lightning.
Finally a electric truck. Can't wait to see the Silverado.
@Jajajaja Jajajaja There are Teslas out there with 350k miles on all original equipment...don't know of a single ICE vehicle that has that many miles without major overhauls...the future is here and EVs are it. Oh and fuel for EVs are 10x cheaper!
@Jajajaja Jajajaja EVs will be like your cellphone use it for 5-10yrs and pitch to the curb.
@@dfreadhoff Fuel for EVs is only cheaper now, once EV/Hybrid take over the market the prices will continue to rise, might not be to the point of current fuel prices but they will rise greatly over the next few decades.
@@jayray274 our 10 year old Tesla has 95% original battery capacity and drives like new. Incredible tech
@Jajajaja Jajajaja no need to worry. Government is mandating all vehicles to be EV by 2035.
Every run I watched was at 104.5-ish mph, talk about consistent power !!
Must remember this truck is the first edition. They’ll get better with time. Not sure if Ford as a performance version of their trucks yet.
I’m having trouble understanding how that Cadillac won, when her top speed was 4 mph slower than the⚡️?
Speed at the finish doesn't matter, it's the time. That said the Cadillac still didn't win and you can see the win light come on for the Ford. They just don't understand drag racing, the Cadillac did run a quicker time but left the line much later. The truck won by 0.135 sec.
she coasted at the end...
Dunno but I’m looking for her @
Race against a rivian already
The r1t is over a second faster with a so far best shared pass of 11.6@111mph.
When enough ev cars in the streets, Electirc bill going to be so high that we cant afford to power our house like we used to today.
Man a viper running mid 15’s. That thin air is no joke
You won the final drag race by crossing the finish line first… the winner is the total time from the light turning green… actual quarter mile time plus reaction time added together.
You beat her with a total time of 13.175 vs her total time of 13.31 you won by .135
That was the most quietest drag race 🏁.
Good for the planet
The only sound you hear is the driver laughing!
@@theshield1613
You know they're coming for you? 😉
("But coal electricity!!") 😂
@@rogerstarkey5390 finally it took them over 100 years since the first electric car was built
This truck is good for speed and cheaper to run but not so good for towing, when towing maximum weight, range is only about 70-80 miles.
I had a 2000 lightning. Awesome trick. Would love to have the new one.