Kingy, please. Re: Hawthorn. A game plan that revolves around pressure and outnumber is a game plan best utilised in big games. Sam Mitchell is quietly setting this team up to be a finals powerhouse.
Hawks fan here and I totally agree with Kingy, we still have some decent holes which wont hold up in the big games but the way we hunt the footy is pretty special. Hopefully we can add some decent players to that list over the next couple years and we will be back contending
Isn't it brilliant?! Tell you what, though, they're going to have to start to think about how to accommodate all the members because of these crowds. The SCG - my favourite Aussie stadium - is looking too small for all the supporters who want to be there to see this brilliant side perform.
@@jaredburgess8381 You’re absolutely correct, I knew it was special though when they closed the gates because it wasn’t capable of holding anyone else 🤷🏻♂️ For me though an experience I won’t forget 👍
@@jaredburgess8381 There would have to be pressure from the AFL now on the NSW Gov for a refurbishment of at least one of the stands at the SCG. Tom Harley flagged this on an SEN interview before the Qualifying final back in 2022; he'd expect it to be the next major infrastructure project in NSW.
@@joshmott1368 Yep, I can't see us going back to the Olympic Stadium. Dreadful for AFL. It's going to be a tricky project, though, because there's no time that the SCG isn't used, either by footy or cricket. The crowds for BBL were big ones and the New Years Test is a huge day on the Sydney sporting calendar. I wonder how they'll figure it all out?
@@jaredburgess8381 Good point - I don't follow cricket that closely so didn't consider other sports. The other issue are the stands that back directly onto the Disney (formerly Fox) Studios lot and there are a few businesses and production houses that are situated within the structure just on the other side. No small undertaking by any means, but it needs to be done eventually. I wouldn't mind a season, or two, or three at Olympic Stadium if it means the job gets done properly. Depending on what they decide to do, they could split home games up with a reduced capacity SCG for smaller clubs like Gold Coast & North, then play your Collingwoods, Carltons and the GWS derby at Olympic Park - while the stadium is still multi purpose capable (for now).
Biggest issue Melbourne has is that they're perceived as weak minded. They don't stand up for team mates, they rarely blew games out (switching off) and pressure mistakes. Regardless of what people say Melbourne still has the skill and talent but it's much more difficult because psychologically they're way behind. It's a shame because it's an issue that can linger for a long time and take just as long to address.
I will never understand how after Jackson left they didn't take those picks and go get a key forward. Instead of trying defenders or average forwards go get what you need, win a few more flags and then crash a little harder because you've used your picks. I can't see them getting back to that rock solid defence which was the whole DNA. Geeze if Gawn ever goes down, so do they.
King's delusional, bringing Parker straight back into the midfield when he's available again would be madness with how well Sydney's mids are going. Maybe as a sub or if someone's out injured, but I can't see Parker being willing to put himself above the team when he's made a career of doing the opposite.
Nah I see where he's coming from and the scenario will be different come round 18 (notwithstanding any potential injuries which would obviously open a spot for him). Yes, Horse is notorious for not making changes to a winning side but they need him up-and-going for finals with his experience, whereas early in the season he was a luxury that they didn't require on field. I could see Roberts making way for Mills in a few weeks, then Wicks out for Parker after that.
Melbourne keep reappointing a coach who got lucky and not one who is good and as a result of his incompetence the window has been wasted and is now well a truly shut
Oliver has gone back to a few years ago. Hospital hand passing to a team mate a metre or 2 away and bang opposition nails them. Viney great at getting the ball but his disposal into forward line is generally woeful. Melbourne's constant misdemeanours would be rectified at other clubs.
@@Iunio92 They are on the way down the other side of the mountain now they dined out on 2021 for too long thinking they were entitled to another flag. Its headed back to the football wilderness.
Collingwood were on, with pressure and quick hands, rose to the occasion that Gerard was talking about. Melbourne no inner strength and the Pies have it over them.
Looked at the thumbnail and thought, crikey, 47 minutes to dissect the Demon's loss. Come on chaps, it was only Collingwood what done 'em in. Could cover it in < three.
Honestly I’m a hawthorn supporter so I admit I’m probably biased but hawks only 8-10 wins this year?? Their draw was been tough up to mid year but the run home is great. Richmond x2 West coast North Melbourne Adelaide There’s 5 games we will be heading in as favourites = 11 wins. On top of that we will be competitive against Geelong (away), GWS (away), freo (tassie), pies. If we were only to win 2 of those it takes us to 13 wins. Maybe not enough to make the 8 because of poor percentage but 8-10 wins is laughable.
Yes we are broken beyond repair, not because we’re bad but the celling has lowered. We can’t blow teams away, we can’t carve anyone up. It’s boring slow football because we have no one to kick to ahead of stoppage in the forward half. And with no big names really left to go after Melbourne will either plot along for the next 3 years with a broken side than have no picks when the expansion teams come in. Or make drastic list changes at the end of the year. Starting with the coach.
I feel you have a great midst but your play is still too slow when you try n play fast you turn the ball over and yer I agree 3 or 4 times that game y'all had to stop n wait for forwards to go up also the goal kicking wasn't that great either
Coach aint going anywhere so get use to it, WCE and Tigers had a host ex premiership players running around the ground on the Weeknd and there placed 16th and 17th, the fact is we didnt blood a soul in 2022 only last year maybe 2 or 3 and a few more this year, takes time to get games under there belt, 2026/7 you might see something again, chill, and watch the regrowth.
As a Hawks fan I don't care where we finish this year. Only interested in setting up our next dynasty. We are on the way. I'd actually be happier with another full pre-season not hampered by a finals appearance this year.
Hawthorn and Essendon should not be in the seeds. Hawks are obviously a crazy pick, and Bombers are overrated as hell. Where are the Power and the Cats? My top 6 are 6. Bulldogs 5. Cats 4. Power 3. Magpies 2. Blues 1. Swans
Hawks only getting 8-10 wins this year would be a failed 2nd half of the season. They have 4 games against the bottom 3, they should win all 4 which gets them to 10 wins. Hawks have the 2nd youngest team and have been missing their no 1 KPF and FB all year, yet king can't see them improving next year? At the same time gold coast have the easiest draw this season but they can be 3 wins better next season? i call BS. If GCS cant make finals this year with the easy draw they've been given, then ,unless the AFL conspire to give them another easy draw next year, i cant see them improving significantly.
We'v been streaky. As a Hawks fan, I agree with King on this. The trajectory is not straight line. GC look more solid than us, their a level above us currently.
@@nathand4500 I agree that they have a more mature list. We are just coming out of our bottoming out. Thats why I also think that their improvement should already be evident. However, they are not getting the results expected of them.
So will Melbourne be massively fined for sending Petraca back out to play with his injuries? Or does the Vic/Afl only seek to make "examples" of non Vic clubs?..
First time in a long time, (about 300 years.) to hear a seriously good analysis of Swans. Kingy let loose on Warner and co, best recognition since South Melbourne days. Tick, tick, tick. 🦢
Spot on but they still miss the mark and talk about the same obvious stuff heeney, warner and gulden but the swans are much more than that they are the full package from end to end with some tweaking here and there they will be the the greatest team the swans have ever had, this generation of bloods are building their own legacy within the club. The man utd of the afl world 🔴⚪️ and us swans fans couldn't be prouder of what they are doing, the only thing i can say is that by not seeing them talked about on these lame opinionated talk shows I that when we do watch them the anticipation is so much greater ✌️👌go swannies
@@alisterbacon3157 As a kid I "lived" at Albert Park lake watching a couple of "reasonable" players called Bob Skilton, and Max Papley. (Tom's grandfather was a magician) Another "handy" player was Brownlow medallist Peter Bedford. Unfortunately that's pretty much all there was as South was a basket Case. 05 and 2012 were obviously highlights of my life. They were tough and rugged teams, but the silkiness, the laser-like foot skills, and the all-round brilliance of today's team is the best one I've ever seen. These days we're not really scared when they play because we know how good they are. (disclaimer. Sweating in the first quarter, and had a heart attack at quarter time) Funny enough, the Geelong game really told me we have fully arrived. 5 down and win by 5 against the "never easy" Cats, and more importantly the way in which the boys performed took me back off the heart monitoring machine. 🤣 Enjoy the rest of the season my friend. Cheers. 🦢🦢🦢
@@alisterbacon3157 People, rightly so, rave about the likes of Warner, Heeney, Gulden and others. "How does Sydney find all these young stars?" is the question many like to ask. The truth is, if you put any one of those kids separately in the likes of North, West Coast, or other bottom teams they would be also-rans. The secret is that these boys get caught up in the winning culture that is the Swans. They inspire each other to be great because of the team ethos. E.g. Jordan has become a better player than he was at Melbourne. When you think how many players over the years that have come from other clubs and become better, I am adamant that it's because of the culture. This of course is only my opinion. And I always say everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so long as it doesn't differ from mine. 😹😁🦢
@@RickyisSwan it always has been a great culture even from the sth Melbourne days and your right anyone that that comes to the club dors flourish as they are welcomed and made to feel part of the family which adds that sense of worth that so many industries and probably clubs are too far off the mark, but the boys in this current generation have embraced it and added their flair to it as did the group before them and the biggest thing I can see is that they never forget where they came from 👌✌️
Roos, Daniher, Balme, Northy, Barrassi, Skilton. Just a few names who couldn't achieve at Melbourne what Goodwin has achieved. His position and status at that club should not be questioned.
On a day when the game highlights so much about the courage of families fighting MND. The Demons showed such little bravery and hunger for the hard ball get when it mattered despite heroics from their injured star with 4 broken ribs, punctured lung and lacerated spleen is beyond belief. What a lack of spirit showed by Melbourne. Has the coach lost the locker room? Is the game plan on the coach and his staff. The players seem disinterested in playing for this jumper or each other It is all on Simon the coach, now to conjure up a Goodwin, and get his players and club back on track to earn some self respect. It seems like they dont play for each other. May must be regretting his comments at F&B awards night in 2023 that we are a better team yet mentally out of the flag race, and it is only June. The ski lifts are back on for the members as the snow falls.
Be good if they had a beanie option that wasn't something that only a toddler should wear. Especially at that price. Yeah, it's for charity but be damned if I'm paying that much for something I'd never wear...
I don't get it, Kingy you say that Melbourne need to go back to what they know, but then criticise when Goodwin doesn't make any changes,e g midfield changes. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I still believe
I think there's been enough evidence now that they need to go back closer to how they used to play. They just don't have the flair or attacking weapons, and right now due to the game plan they don't even have a strong defence.
The Carlton Essendon game was similar to the Collingwood Melbourne game where both losers were inaccurate , but why is the narrative Essendon should have won that game but Melbourne were horrible ??
Melbourne have more expectation than Essendon, even more so considering Collingwoods injuries. Also to the naked eye Essendon played better than Melbourne and the scoreboard backs it up
Essendon actually dominated large portions and looked dangerous, but made poor decisions inside 50 Melbourne just look woeful and had so few shots on target. Poor kicking inside 50 is expected and they hardly had any decent run and carry. Scoreboard somehow still flattered them
@@RyanQuinn0397 To me it didn’t like Essendon were going to win at any stage , I thought Carlton dominated 3 quarters , and no I’m not a Carlton supporter
Clubs like Melb or Geelong that claim to have the best interests in the players health is laughable. Geelong kept Cameron on after that heavy head knock desperate to win and now Melb kept Petracca on desperate to get back in the game when he could barely get off the ground. Goodwin is also a tool. This time last year Goodwin was poking at Collingwood about not valuing Grundy like Melb did yet melb didnt play him and then offloaded him after 1 season because he didnt fit their mold. Talk about values. They tried to turn a ruckman into a forward. That was never going to work. The reason Pies got rid of Grundy is because he held the club to ransom about his salary and didnt want to take a pay cut to open up their salary cap to gain other players with the likes of Hill, Mitchell, Frampton and McStay who they ended up getting and got a flag from it, so they offloaded him. It had nothing to do with them not wanting him and Grundy wasnt doing anything since his long term contract was extended in 2019. Now he has stepped up because he knows its his last chance at a third club otherwise hes toast.
Things that showed that Melbourne is a shambles. The coaching staff locking the players out at half time, never seen that before. May being May having a go at his own teammates. He's a great defender, but toxic. The Daicos tag that was a win for the Pies. He still had an influence, and the Dees lost out on the influence of one of their key movers. Terrible move from a very average coach. Pies decimated by injuries, but the players coming in know their system, the Dees have no system.
I hate them but Fair play to carlton they won that's all you can do but seriously I've never seen a more over hyped team it's ridiculous the only difference in that game is 1 team took pretty much every chance they had and the other team took none like the 3rd qtr essendon kicked 3.6 to 1.0
They are a fake 2nd placed team. They are sitting 2nd with a percentage of 109. I still think Collingwood are better than Carlton. Sides like Collingwood, Freo, Geelong, GWS and Bulldogs have had a harder fixture.
@@Not1Dimensionalpossum, according to the ladder Carlton are currently placed second. Remind me where Collingwood is? Typical collingwood supporter: opens mouth before brain kicks in. Today Teams fear Carlton.
@@giopomerol3952Collingwood are 2nd on the ladder if they beat North. They're a bad matchup for Carlton. They beat Melbourne with a quarter of a team while Carlton barely beat them.
And why is that. Thats good sportmanship, unlike Kosi giving Howe the bird which the media would have been all over as racial abuse if Howe gave Kosi the bird and Kosi would have had his arms up in the air and made sure everyone noticed. Maybe you should stick to golf. This game doesnt seem to suit your style.
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Kingy, please. Re: Hawthorn. A game plan that revolves around pressure and outnumber is a game plan best utilised in big games. Sam Mitchell is quietly setting this team up to be a finals powerhouse.
Hawks fan here and I totally agree with Kingy, we still have some decent holes which wont hold up in the big games but the way we hunt the footy is pretty special. Hopefully we can add some decent players to that list over the next couple years and we will be back contending
That atmosphere in Sydney on Sunday was absolutely on 🔥🔥🔥❤️🤍❤️🤍
Isn't it brilliant?! Tell you what, though, they're going to have to start to think about how to accommodate all the members because of these crowds. The SCG - my favourite Aussie stadium - is looking too small for all the supporters who want to be there to see this brilliant side perform.
@@jaredburgess8381 You’re absolutely correct, I knew it was special though when they closed the gates because it wasn’t capable of holding anyone else 🤷🏻♂️ For me though an experience I won’t forget 👍
@@jaredburgess8381 There would have to be pressure from the AFL now on the NSW Gov for a refurbishment of at least one of the stands at the SCG. Tom Harley flagged this on an SEN interview before the Qualifying final back in 2022; he'd expect it to be the next major infrastructure project in NSW.
@@joshmott1368 Yep, I can't see us going back to the Olympic Stadium. Dreadful for AFL.
It's going to be a tricky project, though, because there's no time that the SCG isn't used, either by footy or cricket. The crowds for BBL were big ones and the New Years Test is a huge day on the Sydney sporting calendar. I wonder how they'll figure it all out?
@@jaredburgess8381 Good point - I don't follow cricket that closely so didn't consider other sports. The other issue are the stands that back directly onto the Disney (formerly Fox) Studios lot and there are a few businesses and production houses that are situated within the structure just on the other side. No small undertaking by any means, but it needs to be done eventually.
I wouldn't mind a season, or two, or three at Olympic Stadium if it means the job gets done properly. Depending on what they decide to do, they could split home games up with a reduced capacity SCG for smaller clubs like Gold Coast & North, then play your Collingwoods, Carltons and the GWS derby at Olympic Park - while the stadium is still multi purpose capable (for now).
Two different Sydney segments. I dreamed of times like this 🥲
About bloody time mate. 🦢
@@RickyisSwan fkn aye 😂
@@squalidseal6126 ❤️🦢
Doesn’t Sydney have their own sen? 🤔
@@Comatosedpeanut Explain that?
Essendon & Hawthorn in the seedings is wild
Biggest issue Melbourne has is that they're perceived as weak minded. They don't stand up for team mates, they rarely blew games out (switching off) and pressure mistakes. Regardless of what people say Melbourne still has the skill and talent but it's much more difficult because psychologically they're way behind. It's a shame because it's an issue that can linger for a long time and take just as long to address.
I will never understand how after Jackson left they didn't take those picks and go get a key forward. Instead of trying defenders or average forwards go get what you need, win a few more flags and then crash a little harder because you've used your picks. I can't see them getting back to that rock solid defence which was the whole DNA. Geeze if Gawn ever goes down, so do they.
Pies will slowly gain momentum and lift the cup 2024
i hope your right
there was nothing educated about melbourne sending tracc back out there. it was neglegent
Goodwin in trouble? I'm surprised that question hasn't been asked, yet!
Kingy in good form today, great summaries👍
The guy flip flops too much.. should call him "Thongy".
lol
Two face
King. "There's only three times in the race, Geelong, Giants, Carlton, not Sydney." That was a few weeks ago, and now...?
@@RickyisSwan I know he flips a lot but after 13 rounds I think he has nailed it after the weekend
King's delusional, bringing Parker straight back into the midfield when he's available again would be madness with how well Sydney's mids are going. Maybe as a sub or if someone's out injured, but I can't see Parker being willing to put himself above the team when he's made a career of doing the opposite.
Nah I see where he's coming from and the scenario will be different come round 18 (notwithstanding any potential injuries which would obviously open a spot for him). Yes, Horse is notorious for not making changes to a winning side but they need him up-and-going for finals with his experience, whereas early in the season he was a luxury that they didn't require on field. I could see Roberts making way for Mills in a few weeks, then Wicks out for Parker after that.
Parker straight up kicks Wicks the curb. He'll just be used as a rotating player.
King talks through his you know what ! hahah what a melodrama man !
So you must be a genius
@@jeffallen981 No , But I know when people talk crap to the footy masses !
Agree completely, the stupidity of putting pettracca back on in an inconsequential game, WTF?
Melbourne keep reappointing a coach who got lucky and not one who is good and as a result of his incompetence the window has been wasted and is now well a truly shut
"got lucky" LOL 🤡
Oliver has gone back to a few years ago. Hospital hand passing to a team mate a metre or 2 away and bang opposition nails them. Viney great at getting the ball but his disposal into forward line is generally woeful. Melbourne's constant misdemeanours would be rectified at other clubs.
The question is has Melbourne's premiership window closed shut?
The answer is yes.
They'll struggle to make the finals without Trac let alone the top 4. Washed for this season and they'll hardly be a better side next year
No, never ❤️💙
@@Iunio92 They are on the way down the other side of the mountain now they dined out on 2021 for too long thinking they were entitled to another flag. Its headed back to the football wilderness.
Called it last year after another straight sets exit, for an older side there’s no coming back from b2b straight sets
did Richmond play badminton this week?
Collingwood were on, with pressure and quick hands, rose to the occasion that Gerard was talking about. Melbourne no inner strength and the Pies have it over them.
Looked at the thumbnail and thought, crikey, 47 minutes to dissect the Demon's loss. Come on chaps, it was only Collingwood what done 'em in. Could cover it in < three.
Only the reigning premiers😂😂
Honestly I’m a hawthorn supporter so I admit I’m probably biased but hawks only 8-10 wins this year?? Their draw was been tough up to mid year but the run home is great.
Richmond x2
West coast
North Melbourne
Adelaide
There’s 5 games we will be heading in as favourites = 11 wins.
On top of that we will be competitive against Geelong (away), GWS (away), freo (tassie), pies.
If we were only to win 2 of those it takes us to 13 wins. Maybe not enough to make the 8 because of poor percentage but 8-10 wins is laughable.
Yes we are broken beyond repair, not because we’re bad but the celling has lowered. We can’t blow teams away, we can’t carve anyone up. It’s boring slow football because we have no one to kick to ahead of stoppage in the forward half. And with no big names really left to go after Melbourne will either plot along for the next 3 years with a broken side than have no picks when the expansion teams come in. Or make drastic list changes at the end of the year. Starting with the coach.
I feel you have a great midst but your play is still too slow when you try n play fast you turn the ball over and yer I agree 3 or 4 times that game y'all had to stop n wait for forwards to go up also the goal kicking wasn't that great either
Coach aint going anywhere so get use to it, WCE and Tigers had a host ex premiership players running around the ground on the Weeknd and there placed 16th and 17th, the fact is we didnt blood a soul in 2022 only last year maybe 2 or 3 and a few more this year, takes time to get games under there belt, 2026/7 you might see something again, chill, and watch the regrowth.
It’s the way you move the ball forward, dees just bomb it forward and it’s so predictable for good defenders.
@@Comatosedpeanut that's what the pies do most the time aswell only few times we go to the sides
As a Hawks fan I don't care where we finish this year. Only interested in setting up our next dynasty. We are on the way. I'd actually be happier with another full pre-season not hampered by a finals appearance this year.
Hawthorn and Essendon should not be in the seeds. Hawks are obviously a crazy pick, and Bombers are overrated as hell. Where are the Power and the Cats?
My top 6 are
6. Bulldogs
5. Cats
4. Power
3. Magpies
2. Blues
1. Swans
Geelong is overrated too
Not sure how you could have Bulldogs at 6 when Essendon spanked them.
Freo should be at 6 or even better.
@@Not1Dimensional, Bulldogs were playing badly back then. I reckon if they played now, Bulldogs would beat them easily.
@@clarkclements7204 lol whatever.
Hawks only getting 8-10 wins this year would be a failed 2nd half of the season. They have 4 games against the bottom 3, they should win all 4 which gets them to 10 wins. Hawks have the 2nd youngest team and have been missing their no 1 KPF and FB all year, yet king can't see them improving next year?
At the same time gold coast have the easiest draw this season but they can be 3 wins better next season? i call BS. If GCS cant make finals this year with the easy draw they've been given, then ,unless the AFL conspire to give them another easy draw next year, i cant see them improving significantly.
We'v been streaky. As a Hawks fan, I agree with King on this. The trajectory is not straight line. GC look more solid than us, their a level above us currently.
@@nathand4500 only at home. they are bad playing away.
@@srikaye2688 they're still further developed than us.
@@nathand4500 I agree that they have a more mature list. We are just coming out of our bottoming out. Thats why I also think that their improvement should already be evident. However, they are not getting the results expected of them.
@@srikaye2688 thats not quite how it works.
Petracca medical management - speechless & angry 😠
Don't worry no $100,000 fine for Melbourne teams only Port.
No First Crack this week 😢
Any excuse to have a night off 😂
So will Melbourne be massively fined for sending Petraca back out to play with his injuries? Or does the Vic/Afl only seek to make "examples" of non Vic clubs?..
Interstate sooks make my soul smile.
First time in a long time, (about 300 years.) to hear a seriously good analysis of Swans. Kingy let loose on Warner and co, best recognition since South Melbourne days. Tick, tick, tick. 🦢
Spot on but they still miss the mark and talk about the same obvious stuff heeney, warner and gulden but the swans are much more than that they are the full package from end to end with some tweaking here and there they will be the the greatest team the swans have ever had, this generation of bloods are building their own legacy within the club. The man utd of the afl world 🔴⚪️ and us swans fans couldn't be prouder of what they are doing, the only thing i can say is that by not seeing them talked about on these lame opinionated talk shows I that when we do watch them the anticipation is so much greater ✌️👌go swannies
@@alisterbacon3157 As a kid I "lived" at Albert Park lake watching a couple of "reasonable" players called Bob Skilton, and Max Papley. (Tom's grandfather was a magician) Another "handy" player was Brownlow medallist Peter Bedford. Unfortunately that's pretty much all there was as South was a basket Case.
05 and 2012 were obviously highlights of my life. They were tough and rugged teams, but the silkiness, the laser-like foot skills, and the all-round brilliance of today's team is the best one I've ever seen.
These days we're not really scared when they play because we know how good they are. (disclaimer. Sweating in the first quarter, and had a heart attack at quarter time)
Funny enough, the Geelong game really told me we have fully arrived. 5 down and win by 5 against the "never easy" Cats, and more importantly the way in which the boys performed took me back off the heart monitoring machine. 🤣
Enjoy the rest of the season my friend. Cheers. 🦢🦢🦢
@@alisterbacon3157 People, rightly so, rave about the likes of Warner, Heeney, Gulden and others. "How does Sydney find all these young stars?" is the question many like to ask. The truth is, if you put any one of those kids separately in the likes of North, West Coast, or other bottom teams they would be also-rans.
The secret is that these boys get caught up in the winning culture that is the Swans. They inspire each other to be great because of the team ethos. E.g. Jordan has become a better player than he was at Melbourne. When you think how many players over the years that have come from other clubs and become better, I am adamant that it's because of the culture.
This of course is only my opinion. And I always say everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so long as it doesn't differ from mine. 😹😁🦢
@@RickyisSwan it always has been a great culture even from the sth Melbourne days and your right anyone that that comes to the club dors flourish as they are welcomed and made to feel part of the family which adds that sense of worth that so many industries and probably clubs are too far off the mark, but the boys in this current generation have embraced it and added their flair to it as did the group before them and the biggest thing I can see is that they never forget where they came from 👌✌️
@@alisterbacon3157 🦢👍
Roos, Daniher, Balme, Northy, Barrassi, Skilton. Just a few names who couldn't achieve at Melbourne what Goodwin has achieved. His position and status at that club should not be questioned.
4:24 "What Levers do you go to..." That's just cruel Kingy.
Hawthorn 8-10 wins? We have Richmond twice, west coast and north to come? Checks out
On a day when the game highlights so much about the courage of families fighting MND. The Demons showed such little bravery and hunger for the hard ball get when it mattered despite heroics from their injured star with 4 broken ribs, punctured lung and lacerated spleen is beyond belief. What a lack of spirit showed by Melbourne. Has the coach lost the locker room? Is the game plan on the coach and his staff. The players seem disinterested in playing for this jumper or each other It is all on Simon the coach, now to conjure up a Goodwin, and get his players and club back on track to earn some self respect. It seems like they dont play for each other. May must be regretting his comments at F&B awards night in 2023 that we are a better team yet mentally out of the flag race, and it is only June. The ski lifts are back on for the members as the snow falls.
"Gangbusters" - shows your age; you can thank Paul Keating for that.
I'm less convinced by Carlton than Collingwood!
Melbourne have a shocking culture
Be good if they had a beanie option that wasn't something that only a toddler should wear. Especially at that price. Yeah, it's for charity but be damned if I'm paying that much for something I'd never wear...
Y'all still sleeping on Freo. Sneaky chance to finish top 6.
Definitely top 18...
Gerald please just say the words don’t speak in code, what is pfi
preliminary final integrity
I don't get it, Kingy you say that Melbourne need to go back to what they know, but then criticise when Goodwin doesn't make any changes,e g midfield changes. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I still believe
I think there's been enough evidence now that they need to go back closer to how they used to play. They just don't have the flair or attacking weapons, and right now due to the game plan they don't even have a strong defence.
The Carlton Essendon game was similar to the Collingwood Melbourne game where both losers were inaccurate , but why is the narrative Essendon should have won that game but Melbourne were horrible ??
Melbourne have more expectation than Essendon, even more so considering Collingwoods injuries.
Also to the naked eye Essendon played better than Melbourne and the scoreboard backs it up
Essendon should have won that game? Gimme a break!
Essendon actually dominated large portions and looked dangerous, but made poor decisions inside 50
Melbourne just look woeful and had so few shots on target. Poor kicking inside 50 is expected and they hardly had any decent run and carry.
Scoreboard somehow still flattered them
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To me it didn’t like Essendon were going to win at any stage , I thought Carlton dominated 3 quarters , and no I’m not a Carlton supporter
Should have, could have etc etc. Bad kicking is bad football possum.
Clubs like Melb or Geelong that claim to have the best interests in the players health is laughable.
Geelong kept Cameron on after that heavy head knock desperate to win and now Melb kept Petracca on desperate to get back in the game when he could barely get off the ground.
Goodwin is also a tool. This time last year Goodwin was poking at Collingwood about not valuing Grundy like Melb did yet melb didnt play him and then offloaded him after 1 season because he didnt fit their mold. Talk about values. They tried to turn a ruckman into a forward. That was never going to work.
The reason Pies got rid of Grundy is because he held the club to ransom about his salary and didnt want to take a pay cut to open up their salary cap to gain other players with the likes of Hill, Mitchell, Frampton and McStay who they ended up getting and got a flag from it, so they offloaded him. It had nothing to do with them not wanting him and Grundy wasnt doing anything since his long term contract was extended in 2019. Now he has stepped up because he knows its his last chance at a third club otherwise hes toast.
Pretty harsh on Petracca
Melbourne is navy blue
Best proven solution is to get the players to do a bake off because they're literally cooked!
They're*
Looks like melb is copying port adelaide theyr gonna respond next week too. Just ask Ken hes been using that line for over a decade now
Things that showed that Melbourne is a shambles. The coaching staff locking the players out at half time, never seen that before. May being May having a go at his own teammates. He's a great defender, but toxic. The Daicos tag that was a win for the Pies. He still had an influence, and the Dees lost out on the influence of one of their key movers. Terrible move from a very average coach. Pies decimated by injuries, but the players coming in know their system, the Dees have no system.
Melbourne will bounce back no doubt and back in finals contention 👍💪
I hate them but Fair play to carlton they won that's all you can do but seriously I've never seen a more over hyped team it's ridiculous the only difference in that game is 1 team took pretty much every chance they had and the other team took none like the 3rd qtr essendon kicked 3.6 to 1.0
They are a fake 2nd placed team. They are sitting 2nd with a percentage of 109. I still think Collingwood are better than Carlton.
Sides like Collingwood, Freo, Geelong, GWS and Bulldogs have had a harder fixture.
@@Not1Dimensionalpossum, according to the ladder Carlton are currently placed second. Remind me where Collingwood is? Typical collingwood supporter: opens mouth before brain kicks in. Today Teams fear Carlton.
@@giopomerol3952I don't fear them. Sydney don't fear them. Collingwood certainly don't. 2nd with a weak percentage says it all.
@@giopomerol3952Collingwood are 2nd on the ladder if they beat North. They're a bad matchup for Carlton. They beat Melbourne with a quarter of a team while Carlton barely beat them.
Petracca embracing Maynard pre-game was a bloody disgrace.
Melbourne still whinging about an accident that happened is a disgrace. Brayshaw wore a helmet long before Maynard.
Petracca is a decent and intelligent human.
Not sure why he’d carry on like the nuffies in the crowd who have no understanding of football.
wait till you find out Maynard's brother is an ex Demons player
And why is that. Thats good sportmanship, unlike Kosi giving Howe the bird which the media would have been all over as racial abuse if Howe gave Kosi the bird and Kosi would have had his arms up in the air and made sure everyone noticed.
Maybe you should stick to golf. This game doesnt seem to suit your style.
I agree. Why hug a thug!