What is Infantry Marine Course? - U.S. Marine Corps
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2022
- At the Infantry Marine Course, recently graduated enlisted Marines continue their education and training to become a more proficiently trained entry-level infantry Marine. Because Marines must be most prepared for when our Nation is least prepared, the continual training and advancement of skills is crucial to win the battles of today and into the future for our Nation. Watch to learn more about the Infantry Marine Course.
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Glad to see the infantry going in the right direction. No more "automation by the books training", finally giving the guys challenges and making them think and be decisive in the field. Critical thinking is key in the battlefield and higher is finally realizing it's not a text book out there.
They look better than Army infantry. That "poor Marine" stereotype is long gone.
@@MachineGunPepe The Army infantryman could learn a thing or six from the Marine infantryman. Like individual marksmanship.
Repent to Jesus Christ
“This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.”
1 John 5:14 NIV
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@@jesusislord6545 Amen
There is the text book and then the practical application. How are the sciences taught? How is math taught? Thinking was required but then my time ended in 2000.
"We know it's our job to make them thee MOST prepared when our nation is least prepared".
Damn that goes hard.
Finally, it seems like the Marines are finally entrusting Marines to, well, be Marines. To improvise, adapt, and overcome, on their own.
I’m going to join the marines any tips
@@ghilliedghost9650 do as you’re told, you’re safe during training unless you have hidden medical problems. Just do what they say.
Don’t get in trouble, try not to drink too much when you get to fleet. It’s not good for you especially when you’re training a lot.
@@almightytwee1188 lol what you’re telling him to do is good advice but it’s also ironic when compared to your original comment 🤣
@@joshuawebster0861 I see what you meant, but the emphasis was “in training”
@@ghilliedghost9650 Stay Frosty
Semper Fi young Warriors!
I was Truly honored to support you as a Recon Marine ….one of the highlights of my 37 year career.
37 wow. Do they even let you stay for 37?
@@xLiLtEmPeR Yup it depends on the needs of the Corps, MOS for continuity, and timing. During the GWOT drawdown, the green weenie always found ways to reduce its numbers.
@@jwhiskey534 that makes me really happy. But why is the age limit to join Marines 28 but air force is 39?
@@xLiLtEmPeR Each branch has their set standards and their own set of needs. And some branches are more than willing to accept a medical waiver
Yeah but why isn't Marines 39?
Gunner Pasciuti is a great leader. The infantry is in good hands with leaders like him in charge.
He is a badass. Plenty of crazy stories about him in Iraq. I was lucky to have him as a battalion Gunner while in 3/3.
@@zachcarter7535 Was in Force Lima a while back. I had the opportunity to get a bunch of range time with him.
Love the way Marines think. Can you please take this to the Army since you all end up there anyway?! Thanks!
Different than this old Marine was trained , era of M14 and M16 history now , Semper Fi to all my brother and sister grunts !!!
I graduated bootcamp 10 days ago and those m16 aren’t going nowhere anytime soon
Gun fanatics, take notice: No more crummy M16s or M4s. They're using the M27 IARs!
Just finished IMC April 1st and I gotta say using the M4 is much better
@@Midwesti484 I can see your POV if the M4 is much better, even MARSOC doesn't wanna switch to M27.
To me the M4s and MK18s have shorter barrels and their underslung rail makes room for shotguns/grenade launchers so they're more multipurposeful - ideal for Spec Ops. So I can see why you'd prefer the M4s.
@@Midwesti484 Yeah Id rather get a M4 back, Hope you're liking the fleet. Its been over a year since I went to IMC and all I gotta say is that was the base. Keep learning
@@Midwesti484 delta baby
@@107assassin just personal preference the IAR is a great weapon platform but I dislike 3 things about it. One, it's a damn broom stick especially when clearing rooms even when short sticking it it's just a hassle, 2 The grip is atrocious enough said, and 3 the stock is the size of my boot
Woke up, saw this, and had a vivid memory of SOI back in early 2011. Seems like some of the scenery and tactics are improving.
I graduated IMC just a few months ago, and already being in the fleet for but a few months and change, I am already a team leader. The program made us all stronger and better thinkers. The difference between us and the fellas we get from ITB or Security forces is absolutely night and day.
Do you only need basic swim qual to graduate IMC?
Be humble though devil, just because you went to IMC doesn’t make you better than your counterparts that went to ITB. Instead try to teach those new Basic infantrymen how to operate on your level.
But I do agree the students at IMC are a lot more attentive to the training that they receive.
Same here. Graduated the course back in February
@@thurman0336 how long can you be in the infantry ? also in basic are you able to acess a gym with weights ? same with IMC
Very calming to see such well-spoken and down-to-earth Marine leaders. They should definitely be proud of their service and I'm glad the Marine Corps has maintained it's integrity during the paradigm shift we are currently going through.
I graduated from one of the last cycles of ITB ever at Camp Pendleton and it feels weird to say that
I was the second to last cycle to go through ITB at Camp Pendleton. Were you Bravo Co?
@@uglierclock5447 Charlie
Charlie and Bravo Co
So they dont have ITB at Pendleton anymore?
@@Chevelle602 nope. Only IMC if you’re infantry
Pascuiti is dope as fuck. Sniper in Iraq back in the day. Dudes changing the marine corps for the better
“Most prepared when our nation is least prepared” love it
"People Sleep Peacefully in Their Beds at Night Only Because Rough Men Stand Ready to Do Violence on Their Behalf."
Marines are as rough and violent as they come. Be proud of their service. This Army vet appreciates you all and, of course, Semper Fi!!!
They haven’t done jack for me or everyone of us so no. What threat to our lives have they cleared? They only helped subjugate the Iraqi and Afghan populace for the past 20 years on our tax money.
You talk about making Marines into critical thinkers today. I know this to be true because even back in the 90's you taught me how to learn. When I left and went to college I did very well and obtained degrees I never thought I would get. So many of the techniques of teaching and learning I learned in the Marines, I have transferred to the college students I teach today. Keep up the great work. I will always love the Marine Corps!
Semper Fi. I'm super proud of each and every one of you to step up for the fight.
I graduated from an early delta company in SOI at the time IMC was still very experimental
i graduated from the first delta imc im the red haired guy in this video lol
I was in SOI 30 yrs ago, looking at this vid i may as well be from WW1.
Great stuff,gents.
God love you all, semper.
I was there in 87 SOI BRAVO .Co.
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That’s a lot of technology these kids are wearing. Back when I served, we never had scopes, collapsible stocks, cameras and only one of us ever carried a radio! It also breaks my heart that these kids will never get to carry a SAW. I still remember how the smallest of us were “talked” into carrying those things by the biggest guys in our platoon!
🤣😂😅
Voluntold you mean.
Don’t worry, we carry 240’s now.
@@mcpvbrowning1994 We've always had the 240s
Phenomenal video!
Kickass. Great work Berger.
That man is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. This branch may be doing the best out off all branches in not just the US but the world when it comes to force redesign and preparation for modern warfare.
@@Serching4JerryGarcia This. I remember my fellow salty Old Dogs were whining even as going as far as calling Berger a traitor by phasing out the Abrams from the Corps, fast forward to the sh** happening in Ukraine, boy did Berger made the right move
I'm shipping out next month and infantry is my 1st choice! Oorraah!
How’s it going?
Seeing the vcog is a nice change
indeed.. no more crappy eye relief
The Corps has changed, but definitely for the better.
Their gears are just amazing
I can instantly hit at least half a dozen changes from my days at ITS (Infantry Training School), Camp San Onofre, on MCB Camp Pendlton, CA. Most of all, a woman present. Now, I sound the way the Vietnam veterans sounded to me.
LOL
Fuck yes! This looks like some great training. One instructor per 14 Marines is VERY ideal. I remember going thru ITB and most of it just seemed like 'check in the box' training. We would wait all day in line to shoot one range, and most of the time you would just be sitting by your packs bullshitting with your fellow Pvt's and getting fat on MRE's. Hardly any one on one training with the combat instructors because they had wayyy too many Marines to train and not enough time to ensure each one of them actually mastered the skill.
I agree!, These much needed much wantes long delayed (needlessly) vital changes for the better shouldve/couldve Ideally been made a Reality back in early-mid 1990s. Wouldve been GREAT if it did, thats for sure). More changes for the better coming soon for both USMC Infantry training (ITB/SOI) & more so once they hit the Fleet (the Real training) & also for US Army Infantry units going through their equivalent Infantry schools, etc etc.
If you didn't learn there, where else did you think you could learn? Go back to grade school!!
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Went through SOI back in 2000. What a difference 23 years makes. Semper Fi Marines. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Just graduated imc from soi east last week It was pretty cool It got me a Lil bit closer to being a hard avocado
Wow, these instructors are amazing looking.
Damn they got m27& LPVO optics in SOI nowadays!
Dude. I was army infantry and I’m really impressed with the funding here. I always thought marines had shit for equipment but now they’re using a full length rail/LVPO setup for their weapon. Super effective system. However. It looks like they just took an m16A4 and switched the rail and buttstock as well as the front sight/gas tube. Clearing rooms with a long weapon ie a bitch. Collapse the stock with a 14.5 inch M4 and it’s way better.
The M27 has a totally different gas system
@@gr6373 in the form of what. A rifle length has system? That’s what I’m saying. Maybe they just switched from a carbine to rifle length gas system.
@@bakerthree6r As in its a piston system and not DI
@@gr6373 oh yes. I was thinking that they literally just took an M16A4 and put a rifle length gas system on it. Rarely will any branch of the military have specific weapon systems for big units.
Am sure they soon WILL.The nees is most definitely there & desire too (fir a more compact version/weapon). Both the Army (Infantry) & USMC Infantry forces know That & much more All too well & WILL soon make the necessary changes, regardless more so Now with the ongoing war in Ukraine & several other current & potential future Global hotspots.....
Tell our enemies, "If the Marines are called, Hell is coming with them".
Semper Fi.
Watch out they're bringing their mops and brooms with them!!!
This is a really good directive. I was one of the last companies to go through the old pipeline and just comparing this on its face to what we went through this looks like there's a lot more quality instruction being given instead of blitzing a few core subjects and shipping the marines to the fleet.
Is boot camp worth it because
Army infantry you go boot camp/slash infantry training, I feel boot camp is too long an is a waste the marine bootcamp
@@joshjoenes7246 all depends on the person. I was really sheltered so bootcamp changed my life, I used to wanna quit and gripe at the beginning but found my stride and sometimes wanna go through it all again just so I don't forget. in the moment bootcamp feels like forever but when it's done it feels like it was over in an instant. arrogant people get through, though, and they don't learn much because the instructors have a dilemma every training cycle. Drill down on the rejects at the cost of everyone else, or push the people who want to be something even higher.
@@joshjoenes7246 That being said, the mres, dealing with injuries of any kind (which will probably happen even just a blister can be a major headache), all of us almost freezing and kids getting hypothermia during field week, walking around after crawling in the mud in squishy boots and heavy cammies, the not going home after bootcamp because of covid, sobers me up pretty quick lol. All of that builds character however and those experiences make everything I face now seem so much smaller.
@@Skill_4015 I'm not really good authority on what it actually ends up being like because I messed my back up and got sepped :/
Graduated from this course in September, weird that they’d post about it more now. Literally saw myself in the second clip. And was just at pdl mout town again for cqte course like a day ago. What a coincidence haha.
how long can you be a infantryman ? do you get acess to swiming pools ? & what about gyms with wieghts?
@@factsyoonus137 You can be in the 0300 series as long as you can handle it, On base facilities have gyms and such.
@@factsyoonus137 just don’t be a pussy quitter like most quitters who end up changing their MOS after finding out grunt life ain’t for them.
That gear and training looks way different than the ITB course I did back in 2012.
My guy. It looks completely different than the course I did in 2019.
@@iss7451 For an organization that claims to pride itself on tradition things sure do change a lot. Uniform changes, PFT/CFT changes, rifle qual changes.
Quick someone thank this guy for his service. Boot
@@03BangBang Lol, you calling someone a boot with the UA-cam username "03BangBang"
Damn... 2005 was way different
Outstanding! Longer and more quality training, has my endorsement! I concur with with AJ, let’s give them what we didn’t get because dammit they deserve it.
Repent to Jesus Christ
“This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.”
1 John 5:14 NIV
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A school can teach but so much. But then a school is just that, a period of instructions. Active duty is the practical application of what any school will instruct.
10days till bootcamp 03xx can’t wait for this new training
I LOVE THE MARINES.
Yeah we use the ReactOS with the Heat of the Ember used ground in pipeline to melt them.
I just wonder down the line if the Marine corps will adopt the xm5 and xm250 or keep the current equipment they have
Lanza with the smolder lol
I remember that day.
I wanted to join a 91 but they said I couldn't be a recruiter. So I improvised adapted overcome it and I'm just going to get some anyway. 🇺🇲
O'ORAH MARINES 😘
When are we going to start teaching wet gap crossings as part of IMC?
yall finna make me enlist if u keep posting
I will be there soon
Master gunner🙏🏼 praise thee almighty
🇺🇸United States Marine Corps🇺🇸
Best branch in the Armed Forces and best branch in the world.
SSG Stewart, lamoooooo I know him. He was SGT Stewart when I arrived to my first unit lol. He was our sponsor. Good dude.
Pfc Christopher wong comes to my recruiting center on RA. He’s already ranked up to a lcp
If you’re thinking about the infantry it’s absolutely CRUCIAL that you have the right mindset. If you’re joining for cool Call of duty action, absolutely do not enlist as infantry. The amount of “Infantry” things you do, is not as much as you expect. You WILL hate your life and you WILL want to quit every day of your miserable life. But if your one and only goal/reason is to put your life up and go through hell to protect your family and country then absolutely join. You will hate your life still (it’s a lot of cleaning and other bullshit boring tasks) but when that day comes where you get deployed you’re going to be a fucking machine. You’re going to feel this inner beast inside of you just let loose and become this warrior you dreamed of being. That being said, what helped me get through infantry was treating every single training day like if you were in the middle of a war fighting for your family back home, this will give you a reminder of why you started and what you’re fighting for.
Sergeant López, I’m currently in IMC and man let me tell you he’s a tough bag of nails. Not gonna say he’s hazed us damn IMC is tough 😂
Holy shit....Col Moran was my Plt commander back in 97.....he was a 1st Lt the.
That’s crazy, that was my company for IMC delta company and I met the gunner too cuz he taught me how to swim lol
That’s alpha company boss
@@kaidendurheim6817 its both its the second alpha and the first delta
Did you guys do PFT/CFT at all during imc?
Happy Easter to you guys
"its great seeing a marine's face light up."
Just graduated from IMC a few weeks ago! Was a 14 week slayer but I learned alot of cool shit. #DeltaCo #Grunt #DirtyDelta
What were the swim quals like? Do you just need basic to graduate
@@anthonysilva8686 you need WSI to graduate. Swimming Intermidiate. We dropped a few guys week 9 because they couldn't pass.
@@mementomori_0311 damn fr, were you east or west coast IMC? I failed intermediate in basic so i was worried about it but do they help you and show you how to pass intermediate? Like do they give you chances to practice it atleast?
@@anthonysilva8686 they probably do. They sure did with us in boot camp.
Ok so 14 weeks…. What if you want to go the 52 or 41 route? Additional training then for that specific MOS?
I'm going to give my life for this country but I can't decide on what branch to go with.
You guys make us civs feel safe XD
CWO3 Pasciuti has an incredible haircut lmfao
Nice to see the new rifles and not the M4 and M16’s
Semper Fi! Oorah!
I’m thinking about going into the marine corp but I’m not sure if I wanna go active or reserve.
Finally they training like Army infantry about timr
No stone left unturned.
Cool.
How can I switch from ARNG to USMC Reserves?
Going on week 12 here at IMC at the moment, good stuff
How is it? And what swim quals do you nee? Its just basic swim qual to graduate right?
@@anthonysilva8686 yes
@@anthonysilva8686 you need intermediate swim qual to graduate
@@shaunhernandez6052 one guy is saying you just need basic and then you say its intermediate qual to graduate to which one is it for IMC?
@@anthonysilva8686 you just need basic
Semper Fi ......
1977-1990
The recon badges hit so diff😭
Is it possible to join after 30 but before 35 non prior service with an age waiver?
do i just need to know how to normally swim to join the marine corps
They should've kept the LWH instead of switching to the ECH, the full size PASGT style cut of the LWH looked cooler
We’re switching to High Cut helmets now, they’ve been getting rolled out with electronic ear pro to Victor Units for a while now
ศูนย์ควบคุมการยิงเพื่อรู้เท่า แผนกลลวงข้าศึก
Glad I joined the NAVY :o
yeah unless ur a seal submariner or fly something that kills navy aint the flex you think it is sailor lol
@@JohnDoe-gn4xj what branch I joined doesn't determine if I can kill or not. And that was sarcasm something only a sailor could understand.
I love this all American soldiers i salute u all sir and im proud of u🥰🥰🥰🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Thank you. Semper Fi.
What was wrong with SOI?
What’s up Kevin 🧐
Happy birthday belated by one day. According to my calculations it is number 247 or 24/7 outstanding thank you all for your service. Puke civilian out.
Life🇺🇸
Seems like LtCol Scheller left an impact, and caused the Corps as a whole to look inward in itself
Why do you think he caused this?
@@SteezySteez2011 his whole rant was how leadership needs to be accountable, because Marines are always doing shit on a tight leash and preaching about accountability and that every problem the Marine Corps has is because there is no accountability passed a certain point.
This is teaching young Marines to think on their own and problem solve, without an NCO holding their hands. This was obviously caused by a reflection of senior leadership that the Corps needs to focus on the junior enlisted so that when they become Sgts and Staff NCOs they will be able to handle more responsibility and make the right calls in the moment. Not from a desk like a Lt or Cpt
@@almightytwee1188 if you’ve read force design 2030, which talks about what the commandant sees in the future of the marine corps. He emphasizes not just independent decisions being made by the Battalions themselves but within the grunt squads (in accordance with the commanders intent) to complete the mission.
But seeing your comment I can tell you haven’t read any of the publications and instead choose to stay in like a little ignorant bubble. I don’t dislike LTC Scheller at all but what he did has nothing to do with the POI changes and the new course. IMC isn’t fully implemented yet. There are still ITB classes, the marine corps is still playing around with this concept.
@@KlASELI lmfao straight to attacking because I support flaming incompetent leadership, or, better yet, people who think they’re above being accountable.
I’m no longer in, force design is for getting the Marine Corps up to speed on near peer threats and going back to amphibious assault as higher priority.
It’s just a restructuring of the FMF for the next mission. They’re “playing with it”, it’s going to be another school or tacked onto something else, I doubt it’s going to replace ITB. As well, someone somewhere was clearly shoved, to make a noticeable change enough to advertise it to the world. Otherwise why even make this video like this.
Stay pressed.
this had been in the pipeline many months, almost a year, before LtCol Scheller did anything. This is apart of Force Design 2030. LtCol Scheller, although highly publicized, left minimal impact on the Marine Corps.
dude in the beginning had a we belt on lol
2:25 completely flagged his buddy on the ground
Trigger discipline guys, no excuses
1:59 Promotions? What's that?
I don’t know man. The concept is great, but it got implemented about 20 years too early. ITB needs to change, but everyone who has graduated IMC is going to the same units where ITB grunts are going, the training received on weapons systems isn’t going to be applicable because weapons MOS’s still exist, and the entire chain of command still revolves around old school command and control. Plus grunt culture doesn’t care if you went to some special school and got extra training, you’re still just going to do what you’re told to do when you’re told to do it. SOI and the fleet are two different beats entirely anyway.
I agree with this, the grunts in the fleet won’t care who you are , or what training you’ve done. Yes, it’ll help them pick up the fleets training, and they’ll be more knowledgeable then an 8 week course ITB boot, but I still believe the culture will change once those older grunts start rotating out, and these new IMC Marines take charge.
I mean your wrong. I definitely like being able to tell one of my boots to get on the machine gun when we are in a defense. Knowing they know the theory. I definitely like not having to explain PB ops or how to trouble shoot a radio to them for the first real time.
@@JoaMAN74 happening as we speak & more so very soon, sooner rather than later
i dissagree if youve been looking at the war in with russia and urkraine the privates here have been trained with the weapons the ukraines are using and also the tactics we also are trained to understand nco type of level knowledge what the russians fail to learn and understand our privates are better trained than russian ncos
That's how it'll be initially, but the culture will change after these new boots from the course become the sergeants
How do u join infantry
Airborne!
They should have stuck with Kevlar helmets. Atleast they cover the ears. They look so much more badass too.
I wonder what training they are getting on AI and robotic weapons, drone bombers, new age warfare type stuff.
That stuff is definitely relevant, but there are many aspects of warfare (especially for ground combat units like the infantry) that have changed little since WW2 - only the toys have got better. Look at the war in Ukraine. It's a combination of high tech warfare and the kind of shit that happened in the 1940s. Hell, even WW1 style trench warfare has made a comeback.
Don't assume every future war will be like the Gulf Wars or Afghanistan for America either. Sooner or later America is going to go to war with someone that's got at least a decent ability to fight back (mitigate against American air superiority, etc etc) and inflict the kind of casualties that the US hasn't experienced since Korea and Vietnam, if not worse.
How can I meet a Marine? Help me please!
How do you enlist?
Go to a recruiting office.
beautiful shit right here 🏴☠️
Sitting here in Army AIT wishing I joined the Marines. They are so much more disciplined than anyone I'm here with.
Interesting, man. What noticeable differences have you seen & heard so far? Any info you could provide us would be greatly appreciated
Are you combat arms or non combat arms? Because that matters. Oh, and your Army career is what YOU make it, stop complaining and do better.
Loser. Go army
Hahaha, I'm going Marines first then Army for this very reason. The Army is cool and has better everything, but don't wanna miss out on the pride of earning the title of Marine.
@@xXSgtWolfXx facts that’s what i’m doing
👏👏🙏🏻🇺🇸
I’m digging the new training ideas. But wth happened with woman in the infantry now…? I was in when they were first experimenting with FET and all that and not just on paper but in practice it was a complete and utter failure in every way. What exactly changed?
It is what it isssss
@@Novabunny_ lol by that you mean lowering requirements, increasing logistical needs and problems, and over all messing up the infantry and getting people killed for no reason other than trying to be more PC…?
Did you see a single female grunt here? That answers your question. Women can be grunts but can they meet the standard? Depends on the individual, nothing can stop a woman from being a grunt except for the gender neutral 03XX standards.
@@KlASELI in the add? Yes. They specifically point it out. Which is the reason I asked. And before you react like I’m being sexist I’m not. The standard was dropped years ago to help allow females into grunt units. Which is why I have an issue with it. And no it doesn’t depend on the individual, it’s about genetic differences. From muscle and bone density to testosterone levels etc etc. Not to mention logistical issues and distractions. Drop your feelings and look at hard facts objectively and think about the unnecessary loss of life because the military wants to be PC. Then again I’m sure you’ve never seen combat so me explaining this to you is pointless anyways.
@@tylervaneffen8298 You're complaining about an issue in ITB thats a non issue in the fleet
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This course is a slay lol
Grunts over POGs
Are those M27 IAR?
Yes the Marines switched to them a few years ago
@@echo_94 Oh, wow. They replaced the M4?.
@@podsmpsg1 Yes. Our Rifles are manufactured by HK.
@@albertomejia1570 Nice. The IAR is lighter, shorter, more reliable, easier to maintain and more accurate than the M249 SAW.
@@podsmpsg1 I wasn't a heavy machine gunner but im pretty sure we stopped using the Saw. I think now we use the m240.