There’s a real balance between the stalking thing, but also being able to track an item of yours that was stolen. An hour doesn’t work because the thief knows immediately.
@@Viewer765 not at all if you placed them in a car or bike the person still has to try and find them removing the speaker is a good idea for item you want to track ONLY if stolen
The thing about 3 days is that the bad guys know that it’s 3 days so if they are gonna put it on you I’m assuming they gon do what they wanna do before the 3 days are up...
@@OHCAM5 are you talking about reverse psychology? Like when companies advertise their products as "unhackable" or "impenetrable" but this only persuades hackers to try to get into the product?
They should allow you to share air tags with another iPhone user like they’re gonna do with the Apple Car Key. So if I lend my bag to my friend I can send him my airtag link or something that knows it’s being used by him
@@the.mosawi Cause it's only Apple products that are popularly used in my country to kinda prove having a luxury lifestyle. And most of them didn't know tile or Samsung tags existed till airtags came along.
Exactly. The entire point is to find lost products. Now imagine- you are in a mall, and happen to drop your wallet/keys with an airtag without realizing they lost it until 2 hours later. Someone decides to steal the product, they get a noti, find the tag, and destroy/throw it out. Now your product is lost with no hope.
@@jacksonf_ Imagine you're a woman. Your ex-boyfriend is violent and has threatened you in the past. You had to move, because he kept harrasing in front of your home. Suddenly you get a notification, that an AirTag was following you. Three days is enough to see where you live and where you work, which grocery store you usually go to. If you go jogging, someone could figure out your jogging route.
Big lew. This is going on my 1000 dollar electric skateboard that I’m using to commute to a big university. Longboards are notoriously easier to steal compared to bikes, and on the flip side I feel a bit safer knowing If anyone took my board my airtag is hidden within the motors.
They shouldn't have bothered with this market then if it can be bad for the brand if something bad happens. I can already see the news taking advantage of this.
At less there getting constructive criticism and feedback for there products to make it better, I think it would be better if the notification for an unknown airtag was within 24 hours.
That same thing can be done with literally any other tag out there. Apple's error was advertising it as this anti-tracking miracle device. They should change it to be notified after a few minutes of an unwanted airtag following you.
@The Real Incognome yes. I understand the device doesnt have gps. But why would the phone automatically give gps info to an unknown bluetooth device, without your aproval
When you have an unknown airtag with you, you get notified as soon you enter an important place. Your iPhone already knows where you live or work. And then you get notified, but only when you have an iPhone. tried this out.
they already do, anything with android installed tracks you in the background, that data is already being used to show traffic jams on google maps, how many people visit a store on a given time etc
@@rxnniiee I THINK TIM MENAS LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE LOCATION OF AN SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, LETS SAY YOU ARE A JEALOUS BF AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR LOVE IS, S PLACE TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE MONEY REGARDLESS OF THE THE PERSON BEING TRACKED ALLOWS IT OR NOT. LET'S FACE IT ONLY PEOPLE WITH MALICIOUS INTENTIONS WOULD PAY FOR THAT.
I feel like you glossed over the when your item is stolen part a bit. I agree that if I'm being tracked I'd like to know it within an hour, but on the other hand, if my item gets stolen, chances are that I won't even notice it before the hour is over. It's a though choice without a 'best' answer, although you showed that nuance quite well. Keep up the work!
I think if they added a notification when your item is moved without being able to connect to your device, you should get notifed straight away.. this way you can solve both issues.
You have to consider what the main use case is for airtags. People are putting them on their keys, in their backpack or attached to a valuable thing that they don't want to lose. If someone steals your backpack and you want to track it, it tells the robber that there's an airtags in it within an hour they're going to dump it before you can track your item to the robbers location.
Agree, sometimes when we lose something take probably a day to find out you misplace or forget in other place. The main pint is to know where is your stuff. If I borrow my car with my daughters, it is nice to know where are they.
@@itsmanasK And? It is their responsibility to consider a solution that does the least harm. Property is replaceable. The dangers of someone using this to stalk someone and do something much worse is a FAR bigger problem.
@@itsmanasK It is a solution. Drop the theft prevention angle. Consider the uses that will do harm and take action to disable those. If thieves can find and disable AirTags after an hour, then it is functionally the same as how the world works if AirTags didn't exist. property is replaceable. It sucks, but you can get new stuff and the police can investigate to maybe find the thief... If stalkers can use AirTags to stalk someone for 3 days, then it is not functionally the same as the world before AirTags. Imagine a celebrity or internet personality going to a fan meet and greet, having a stalker stash one of these, and the the stalker finds out the exact hotel or home address for the celebrity, then commits a crime. The AirTags was used to facilitate that. The tech should prioritize a design that does as much as possible to prevent that use case.
From what I've read, if you don't have an iOS device you can't be tracked so it's not an issue for Android users. The tracking only kicks in when it's near an iOS device.
@@635574literally there only has to be a iPhone within 200 feet I’m willing to bet someone within 200 feet has a iPhone above below or side of hotel room not even a. iPhone . A mac a iPad anything
I believe theoretically it’s supposed to notify you sooner. If you go on apple’s website and scroll down to airtag privacy, you can see that the phone says “first seen with you at 8:50am”, and the person is checking it at 9:41am. So I believe it should theoretically notify you within an hour.
@@kartik_sinha if it’s a different date then it won’t say “last seen with you at x am”, it would say the date and time. That’s how iOS works. And it CAN be trusted since it’s on their website. I’m gonna wait for an unbiased source to conduct a similar test to see what the results are.
It does notify you earlier, I’ve seen other video where the feature is tested and they were warned on the same day. The article in this video is really dumb, they can’t say that it’s always like based on one simple experiment.
It doesn’t actually say it’s 9:41 am. It could be pm, and by that time you should have gotten the notification for sure because it’s supposed to tell you after “a few hours” of the AirTag being separated from its owner
I am a victim of a bicycle thief and I know from experience that the thief will hide the bicycle somewhere in the basement for a month, where Airtag will not find it. Only then will it sell and maybe after 2 months later you have a chance to find a bike from another owner. 50 days is minimum, not 3 days (and not one hour!) As You said 99.9% of people will use it normally. Suddenly not all of them will become criminals because Airtag will be useful. There are many more real GPS locators on the market that always work not only with iPhones. Think about it - someone would have to rummage through your things and plant it! This eliminates a lot of people - only relatives and family, someone with whom you are dating! This is not a real problem.
It should notify you once you move half a mile with it. And when you stay over 2 hours at a second location then when it first was put on you. (For people that live in small towns, who’s house is close to the shops)
This also kind of defeats the purpose of it. If I have it on something that gets stolen, the person who steals can just be notified that they're being tracked and disable it.
There is no right amount of time, but the location can be used as the trigger, there should be an option to set 1-2 miles radius where you enable the unknown tracking notification. So once you are inside that vicinity and there is another AirTag following you, you get notified as quick as possible, 5 minutes maybe.
Here's what apple can do so let the airtag buyer be person A and the person whom A wants to stalk be person B. (He/she can be the victim of stalking or maybe the thieve ) If the Airtag get itself apart from person A for more than 2 kms or more let the Airtag notify person A that it's missing and to find it within 2hrs after the notification given to person A and if person A fails to collect airtag and let it know that it has found it then make the airtag be invisible (do not give person B notification yet) for 12 hrs and later give person A another notification that airtag is again available and you can find it again. Another case - Now if the airtag is within 2 kms don't notify the person B and see if the person A is chasing the airtag (using something idk what )for more than 3 kms then make the Airtag notify person B. Hence the problem is solved for Apple users.
And what if someone was at their job working long hours and their stuff legitimately has been stolen and they don’t notice until they get off way more than 2 hours later.
@@emotionaldistress Hmm . What you can do is make it clear to prioritize between work and the stuff with Airtag is attached to . And if you notice it after 2 hrs then as I said give notification again after more than 6hrs later from the first notification. And make it visible again for 2 hrs and this time if you fail to collect airtag give notification to person B that you have an airtag alongside you.
It’s actually being reported that girls on my campus are finding them hidden in their cars. Like someone open the bumper and hid it in there. The only reason they knew was that they were alerted on their phone.
In fact, whether you have an iPhone or not, after the third day of you being tracked, the actual AirTag that’s following you will start ringing so that you can find and disable it even if you have an Android.
@@lukeparsram9925 Tile doesn't have the footprint of a billion connected devices either. It's a fraction of a percent of Apple's. Most people didn't even know of their existence until a few days back. This comparison is between a startup & a behemoth. If a Tile were to be used to stalk someone, there's a massive probability that it'll be lost forever as soon as it moves out of range. Apple has opened the Pandora's box by knitting this feature so tightly into their OS.
What happens when the airtag detects the iphone its paired in those 3 days? Does it reset the counter? Thats perfect for wifey/husband issue. Cuz they meet every night yeah?
But if someone wants to stalk you they could buy gps trackers for around the same price that won’t notify you. These devices have been around a long time
What happens if my kid borrows the car keys and goes to school? Is a classroom full of iPhones going to get an alert after day three of that? Or does it “reset” itself if the proximity goes away and it comes back to my phone?
Also to add it can give name tags to your personal tracking devices and give a timer or count down, so for eg. If you have tag on your car keys you might not always use your car so you get that option to time the tag to give you notification of lost or away from phone.
On iPhones you only get the notification, if the airtag is with you and you are at a frequent place for example your home. I’ve tested it with a friends airtag twice. First We put the airtag in my pocket and I went home, after 10 minutes I got a notification. The other time I didn’t went home for 5 hours or so and then went home. And right as i got home I got the notification
There has to be "Scan airtags" option so you can check if theres airtags near you so you can check if theres someones airtags attached to you. For android users there someone have to make an app also that scans tags.
What if you are inside a place (like a cinema) in the near future with an airtag you didn’t own, do all iphone users inside the cinema receives a notification?
first alert, 1 hour in "hey unknown airtag, are you borrowing this?" second alert, 1 day later, "hey just want to keep you in the loop some bros airtag is with you and it aint yours homie" third alert 2 day later, " ayo i would take out that battery"
Another argument would be, what if the item is stolen? I don’t want the thief be notified on their iPhone that an unknown airtag is around them. It will cause them to look for the airtag and than toss it.
Best thing they can do is give notification in 2 hours for the airtag which belongs to someone in your contact and they should notification in half an hour for unknown apple user
From various tests that have been going around, it seems that for iPhone users it throws the notification once a ‘significant location’ is reached. For non iPhone users though, yeah it’s three days when it starts making a noise. Still problematic, but less so for iPhone users: that’s Apple 😆
@laterclips what if when the airtag is not moving nothing happens. However when the airtag is away from the iphone and on the move it beeps 2 hours later ( buffer time ) every 5 minutes so everyone would know if they are being tracked regardless of having iphone android or no phone.
if you gave an hour during that time you wouldn't even realize that you miss a certain thing, such as a bike, and in a moment the thief gets the message, so he knows what to look for.
It’s designed to not give those alerts if it recognizes that your phone is nearby and it won’t alert other people unless those people go to a place the heavily frequently go to like their house
i actually have a solution for this: if your aritag is on whatever you lost, it will notify you first and will give you one hour time limit to start heading towards your stuff, because you would want to retreive it and your device will be able to tell if you are going that direction. if after one hour and the owner does not start approaching the airtag or contact the police, it will then be considered stalking and do whatever it does.
But what if the owner does not sees the notification before it's too late..... And 1 hour time ends.... Not only now he have to suffer the loss of his good but also face false charges of stalking
The largest problem I have with your "solution" is that is creates another problem. You can't have a solution create more problems. Your new problem would be, well what if i don't have time to go to where ever the airtag is located? I just lose my stuff because I am a busy person? that's not right. Yes, I want to retrieve my stuff, but not always can you get it at the immediate moment.
I don't think 1 hour is realistic, the owner might not check their phone notification that frequently, even if they do, they might not be able to head towards or notice the police within 1 hour therefore if someone forget their airtags in a library, after an hour, everybody in the library get the notification which is not a good idea. Another problem with this is that as long as the stalker is heading toward the stalkee, it will not be considered stalking which is not good. Lastly, it is not that easy to know if you are heading toward the airtag or not especially if the airtag is moving. If you have unlimited battery then it is easy but you don't in this case.
Every iPhone user should have the option of when to be notified if there’s an Airtag nearby for a certain amount of time. iPhone users should also be notified if an Airtag is nearby in more than one location they go to.
Ironically, I've been interested in exactly the reason that there is a concern! I live near the Texas/Mexican border and just purchased a new F150. With the incidents of car/truck thefts being high here, combined with the vast apple network being so much greater than Tile I thought that it would be a great way to keep track of my truck if it was stolen...
Several ways I think this dilemma can be improved upon: 1) Allow users to select the frequency/sensitivity of the notifications. Those who are super concerned about possible tracking can choose to be notified every 30 mins if they want to vs those who are less concerned can choose every day. 2) Distance based algorithms should be considered, if not already. If an unknown airtag is planted inside your purse (very close) to your iPhone, you should be alerted sooner than if it was a person sitting next to you on the bus with their airtag “accidentally traveling” with you. 3) Allow the option for airtag to be used/tracked in the same family sharing network so they don’t produce a bunch of false negatives
How about Apple adding a setting in IOS to allow the user to setup up when they are notified by time, distance or immediately, whether they own an air tag or not?
or allow the person to turn off their own notifications. not the owner of the airtag, but the person with it. if they don't want the notifications just turn them off. if they're borrowing something from a friend they already know there's an airtag. imo the notifications being "annoying" if someone let's you borrow something is NOTHING especially when people are using it to STALK PEOPLE. let people be annoyed or let them turn off their notifications. don't wait 3 days to tell someone they're being tracked tf
what about when you live in an apartment building and you go on a week vacation and leave some airtags at home… do the people in the surrounding apts get notifications? I think that adding some modes to specify “device being shared”, “person on vacation away from items” statuses might be helpful for the owner to specify how its being used at the current moment would make it easier to do hourly notifications… like yes simplicity is good but also provide the good owners with more options so that the bad owners can be more easily determined.
This is so dangerous to the public… I can see the lawsuits coming. Can you imagine someone putting this on your vehicle without your knowledge to track you for three unsuspecting days to commit crimes of theft a vehicle or perhaps rape, domestic violence, kidnapping etc.??? Can you imagine your privacy being violated to the degree that you have no knowledge of it for three whole days and quite frankly even 30 minutes is too long not to know that a device have been planted on you or your vehicle without your knowledge.
Because of how many find my devices I'm thinking of getting one for my wallet and keys even tho I have an android because it has a web interface that I could use to get a rough location. I also wonder if someone will build an app that could detect the air tags on Android.
They need to have it for a full day at least. I have them set up on my lawn equipment. Had 1k of equipment stolen from me in the middle of the night. 1hr isn't long enough.
@Zyzz I guess if you have a home location set in your phone it will notify you as soon as you get home... Of you don't it will notify you at the end of the day. I guess the idea is if you stole the item it doesn't want to warn you you're being tracked immediately.
@Zyzz my best guess for non ios users is that 1. If the victim doesn’t have ios device then the stalker won’t be able to get a location because well the airtag needs an ios device to tell the servers it’s current location. On a second thought. Crazy ex can still log my routine and stalk me. Airtag tells all the ios devices while I’m on the road
@@meshoverflow2150 Whatever it is, even if you have an iOS device, the tracker will only notify you once you get home.... So by the time you discover the AirTag on you, the stalker would have known your home address....
They can design it such that there's an opt-in setting in the Privacy menu whereby you can set to be notified of any stray AirTag following you at intervals determined by you, say every 15-30 mins or an hour. That way, if there's any unknown AirTag following you, you'll be notified within the timeframe specified.
What about the scenario of mass transit? I lived in NYC for a while. If I have an air tag on my bag and I’m on a long subway ride everyone else’s iphone would be pinging that there’s an AirTag following them.
A notification in an hour means it’s useless for tracking something stolen. So if I steal a backpack, and I get a notification in an hour, then I look for the airtag to remove and keep the stolen goods.
I wonder what temperatures it can handle, for example: can I place one in a lawnmower that will be working on South Florida? Will it stop working due to heat?
There are a lot of people that go to work the same way as you, or work next to you . You will get way to many notifications within an hour. But I would say 12 hours of perfect for getting that notification.
They must have changed this by now, in Toronto here, my friend and I went out together, and when he came back over to my house, it immediately notified me that an Airtag has followed me. They also added the feature to silence your friend's specific airtag for a day.
@@shuttzi9878 Psycho gfs and stalkers havent been waiting for AirTags though. You can get a gps tracker from Aliexpress for 15 $ which can transmit your location to any phone for 100 days or more. They even magnetically attack to the bottom of the car.
I think statistically, around the world, thieves are more common than stalkers, and you balance things out and you end up with those 3 days. Moreover, the principle is good, but you can't leave in fear. A stalker is less common than a thief or your own mind playing tricks on you and you always forget some damn things.
@@The_Calm_Chaos not really. By their nature, they are cowards, hence the stalking. The predatory stalkers are something else. But let's take it as it is...a keys trackers😂😂
It can’t be instant or an hour for theft reasons. If someone steals my backpack from my car with it in it and I’m asleep... they will be notified, find the air tag and throw it out. Probably a good reason for the 3 day rule. Maybe 2 days?
But if they know airtags exist they can just look for it and throw it out. They don't need to get notified just assume everyone has an airtag. Or empty the bag into another bag and toss yours.
@@happytoberu Not really a maybe if this is a know aspect of the tag. If someone steals your bag the will look for a tag. But this isn't made for that though it's just to find your lost keys or bag not stolen property. What they dropped the ball on was the anti-tracking thing.
My Fiancé’s airtag was around me for less than an hour and I got notified that “unknown item” was near me. This video needs more views because of how informative it really is.
Y’all are correct with the Android aspect of air tags but it’s nice to know that it will beep after three days of being next to you. As for iPhone users it’s a mystery because I’ve been told three different times and stories.
@@dtaanic yes but think of the amount of iPhone users that android user with the planted airtag will pass in proximity to. Whoever is tracking you is surely going to have enough data to narrow down where you are.
It's a super weird situation, gun manufacturers aren't liable if someone uses their product for murder. Is Apple responsible if someone uses their product maliciously?
Imagine someone getting kidnapped and the only way to find them is an airtag that’s only active for 5 minutes. PS: the kidnapper gets a notification after 5 minutes and beats the crap out of Batman
Perhaps apple can come with a “check out system “if you let someone use an item wit one of your airtags. As far as tracking a person maybe let the user decide in their setting how long the notification of a foreign tag alerts you. In this setting the user could decide by time or by distance.
Personally, i feel like this is made a lot safer by a software patch that does a few things. 1. Have it able to be set by your phone when you get notified youre being followed by an AirTag. Have the settings be, like, 1hr, 12hrs, 1 day, 3 days, never. 2. If your registered AirTag is away from you for over 1 day, it begins telling every iPhone it comes in range of that it is missing every 30 minutes or something. 3. If you are borrowing a known individual’s belongings that have an AirTag on them, you can “approve” an AirTag by both individuals accepting a notification on both their phones
How close does it have to be to you for it to alert you? If a stalker puts it on your car and you go inside to sleep does the 3 days reset because it’s out of range?
All Apple would need to do is create the ability to temporarily "assign" your air tag to a new user for a set amount of time. That would eliminate the notification for that set amount of time.
Also, Apple couldn’t be held liable for any crimes that could possibly be committed by using an airtag. That’s like saying your gonna blame a gun manufacturer because someone used their gun to kill someone. Lol
There’s a real balance between the stalking thing, but also being able to track an item of yours that was stolen. An hour doesn’t work because the thief knows immediately.
I removed the speakers for AirTags on my bicycle and backpack.Good luck finding it without the speakers
@@Viewer765 not at all if you placed them in a car or bike the person still has to try and find them removing the speaker is a good idea for item you want to track ONLY if stolen
@@Viewer765 if you remove the speaker (I have) its almost impossible to find as its only “proximity”
Yea precision finding doesnt just work on your phone lol 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Imagine the horror when you go to get your condom out of your wallet and find out that bump has been replaced by an air tag. Busted.
And they get so clever they even hid it in it's own wrapper. Damn lol
Good one
Screwed either way.
@M S People who have sex.
No one keeps condoms in their wallets
What if someone steals your backpack and then gets a notification that there is an airtag there. You would never know where your bag is
i guess they should add a feature where you report it as stolen and it wont notify it to anyone but you but that has so many flaws
@@hamzaxo5247 so if i want to stalk you i could just put a tag , mark'it as stolen, and you woudnt get the notification so iam free to stalk you
@@MonkPT exactly what I was thinking
@@MonkPT ehh not really
But if someone steals your stuff they can easily find the airtag. Off course they gonna look for it
The thing about 3 days is that the bad guys know that it’s 3 days so if they are gonna put it on you I’m assuming they gon do what they wanna do before the 3 days are up...
If they don't want an alert they can just buy a samsung tag or tile to stalk anyone without the 3 days limit.
@@the.mosawi or just an Damn 15$ Amazon gps tracker... I don’t get the hype about „airtags as stalking device“
@@no0x they are smaller, easy to set up and they can give you the exact location, because of the many iOS devices out there
@@no0x The hype is that Apple advertised it as having this anti-tracking feature. They brought this on themselves.
@@OHCAM5 are you talking about reverse psychology? Like when companies advertise their products as "unhackable" or "impenetrable" but this only persuades hackers to try to get into the product?
“Thats Batman status” lmao
First thought that came to mind when apple said they doing air tags
Reminded me of Flossy Carter 😅
Eli5?
I planted a tag off a remote hiking trail just to see if I would get any hits. 3 so far in two days.
creepy, if its remote who tf would be using that trail, what were they doing there? dumping bodies?
@@SmoovyNovaFan probably hiking. Just a wild guess though.
@@leivaandre Thats what they WANT us to think........
Knowing its 3 days gives the stalker the ability to recover the air tag before the person finds out.
its only 3 days for the beeping. it'll notify you on the iphone as soon as you're at a location that you frequent. so it could be less than an hour.
They should allow you to share air tags with another iPhone user like they’re gonna do with the Apple Car Key. So if I lend my bag to my friend I can send him my airtag link or something that knows it’s being used by him
No, the easiest resolution is to just limit the range after Out of BT to 400-500 ft.
No more, no less
@@shuttzi9878 then someone that stole your car can get tf out within a day
Just list certain devices that are allowed to be near the airtag for more than 6 hours
Yep
They should have it where if they’re in your contacts then it bypasses the notification
"You" season 3 noises intensifies.
Can't wait to see it's application in "Black mirror" also
It’s like the episode Arkangel
I don't know why but I feel both guys and ladies in my country are gonna use it to track their lovers to know if they cheating or not lol
Why didn't they use tile or samsung tag before? why now with the AirTag?
Or just share your location on your phone
@@the.mosawi Cause it's only Apple products that are popularly used in my country to kinda prove having a luxury lifestyle. And most of them didn't know tile or Samsung tags existed till airtags came along.
@@collinm5277 Trust issues
What country? Lol
A notification after 1 hour defeats the whole point of the air tag.
Exactly. The entire point is to find lost products. Now imagine- you are in a mall, and happen to drop your wallet/keys with an airtag without realizing they lost it until 2 hours later. Someone decides to steal the product, they get a noti, find the tag, and destroy/throw it out. Now your product is lost with no hope.
@@jacksonf_
Imagine you're a woman. Your ex-boyfriend is violent and has threatened you in the past. You had to move, because he kept harrasing in front of your home. Suddenly you get a notification, that an AirTag was following you. Three days is enough to see where you live and where you work, which grocery store you usually go to. If you go jogging, someone could figure out your jogging route.
@@Pseudynom there are two sides to the story and pros and cons for both
@@jacksonf_
Yeah, potentially losing your stuff or potentially losing you health/life.
@@Pseudynom but they are made to track lost items, that’s literally the entire point.
Big lew. This is going on my 1000 dollar electric skateboard that I’m using to commute to a big university. Longboards are notoriously easier to steal compared to bikes, and on the flip side I feel a bit safer knowing If anyone took my board my airtag is hidden within the motors.
Regardless of what apple decided on, people will still point fingers back to apple.
Yes absolutely! This wasn’t even a talking point or an “issue” until Apple tried to solve it!
They shouldn't have bothered with this market then if it can be bad for the brand if something bad happens. I can already see the news taking advantage of this.
At less there getting constructive criticism and feedback for there products to make it better, I think it would be better if the notification for an unknown airtag was within 24 hours.
The thought of getting a sudden "YOU ARE BEING FOLLOWED" notification late at night brings a strong Black Mirror vibes
That same thing can be done with literally any other tag out there. Apple's error was advertising it as this anti-tracking miracle device. They should change it to be notified after a few minutes of an unwanted airtag following you.
Why does the phome give out location without aproval?
@The Real Incognome yes, but why would my phone give a random bluetooth device my gps with my aproving
@The Real Incognome its like if i knock on your door, but u don’t answer. Why is the door wide open
@The Real Incognome i don’t understand
@The Real Incognome yes. I understand the device doesnt have gps. But why would the phone automatically give gps info to an unknown bluetooth device, without your aproval
I tested this with one of my co-worker : I took his AirTag home after work (on purpose) and I was notified after 4 hours!
There could be algorithm for accuracy for sure.
When you have an unknown airtag with you, you get notified as soon you enter an important place. Your iPhone already knows where you live or work. And then you get notified, but only when you have an iPhone. tried this out.
@@klsmurat I bet these reports have reseted their iPhones before using air tags
4 hours is too long. Honestly I would want a notification as soon as the airtag is separated from the owner
@@blueeyedtech1234 then what’s the use of air tags. Thieves can easily detect and get rid of air tag
Google would be selling locations like hotcakes if they had a hand in that
they already do, anything with android installed tracks you in the background, that data is already being used to show traffic jams on google maps, how many people visit a store on a given time etc
@@rxnniiee I THINK TIM MENAS LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE LOCATION OF AN SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, LETS SAY YOU ARE A JEALOUS BF AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR LOVE IS, S PLACE TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE MONEY REGARDLESS OF THE THE PERSON BEING TRACKED ALLOWS IT OR NOT. LET'S FACE IT ONLY PEOPLE WITH MALICIOUS INTENTIONS WOULD PAY FOR THAT.
It's not like Apple wouldn't
@@7654321220 actually apple won’t. Privacy protection is a big part of apples strategy. Read up.
@@ThorbzE Privacy protection is a big part of apple's marketing, and then they still sell targeted ads like google
I feel like you glossed over the when your item is stolen part a bit. I agree that if I'm being tracked I'd like to know it within an hour, but on the other hand, if my item gets stolen, chances are that I won't even notice it before the hour is over. It's a though choice without a 'best' answer, although you showed that nuance quite well. Keep up the work!
What you said
I think if they added a notification when your item is moved without being able to connect to your device, you should get notifed straight away.. this way you can solve both issues.
You have to consider what the main use case is for airtags. People are putting them on their keys, in their backpack or attached to a valuable thing that they don't want to lose. If someone steals your backpack and you want to track it, it tells the robber that there's an airtags in it within an hour they're going to dump it before you can track your item to the robbers location.
Agree, sometimes when we lose something take probably a day to find out you misplace or forget in other place.
The main pint is to know where is your stuff. If I borrow my car with my daughters, it is nice to know where are they.
They should have it under settings where you can see how long you want before your notified like 3 days, 1 day, 12 hours, 3 hours, 1 hour
This is Apple, you don't have choices.
Thieves Will Always Set It For One Hour Then...🤣
@@itsmanasK And? It is their responsibility to consider a solution that does the least harm. Property is replaceable. The dangers of someone using this to stalk someone and do something much worse is a FAR bigger problem.
@Morkins324 Dude, Chill. I know it's their responsibility..I am just trying to say that what William Czuk has written is not a solution.
@@itsmanasK It is a solution. Drop the theft prevention angle. Consider the uses that will do harm and take action to disable those. If thieves can find and disable AirTags after an hour, then it is functionally the same as how the world works if AirTags didn't exist. property is replaceable. It sucks, but you can get new stuff and the police can investigate to maybe find the thief...
If stalkers can use AirTags to stalk someone for 3 days, then it is not functionally the same as the world before AirTags. Imagine a celebrity or internet personality going to a fan meet and greet, having a stalker stash one of these, and the the stalker finds out the exact hotel or home address for the celebrity, then commits a crime. The AirTags was used to facilitate that. The tech should prioritize a design that does as much as possible to prevent that use case.
There needs to be an app on the android play store that gives the same notification apple does
From what I've read, if you don't have an iOS device you can't be tracked so it's not an issue for Android users. The tracking only kicks in when it's near an iOS device.
@James Stonks there are tons of gps trackers on Amazon.
I have 3 vehicles, if I leave for a weekend, with one airtag on each set of keys, two keys will start beeping because I’m not close to it?
Think about dropping this into someone’s bag in a hotel and you are able to track them to their Hotel Room.
That’s not gonna work lol, what if you have some 50 floor hotel
@@localbear9444 def can work cause it’s actuate up to inches if it’s over feet you just go up or down a floor
But it still needs a iphone nearby. Wont work if they dont have one
@@635574literally there only has to be a iPhone within 200 feet I’m willing to bet someone within 200 feet has a iPhone above below or side of hotel room not even a. iPhone . A mac a iPad anything
I believe theoretically it’s supposed to notify you sooner. If you go on apple’s website and scroll down to airtag privacy, you can see that the phone says “first seen with you at 8:50am”, and the person is checking it at 9:41am. So I believe it should theoretically notify you within an hour.
Date difference. And then it's on their website so it actually can't be trusted as much.
Kartik sinha can't trust the news too much either though :\
@@kartik_sinha if it’s a different date then it won’t say “last seen with you at x am”, it would say the date and time. That’s how iOS works. And it CAN be trusted since it’s on their website. I’m gonna wait for an unbiased source to conduct a similar test to see what the results are.
It does notify you earlier, I’ve seen other video where the feature is tested and they were warned on the same day. The article in this video is really dumb, they can’t say that it’s always like based on one simple experiment.
It doesn’t actually say it’s 9:41 am. It could be pm, and by that time you should have gotten the notification for sure because it’s supposed to tell you after “a few hours” of the AirTag being separated from its owner
I see Vin still hasn't learned how to sit in a chair. LOL 😂
And thieves. I wouldn’t want to make them aware I’m tracking my stolen goods.
I am a victim of a bicycle thief and I know from experience that the thief will hide the bicycle somewhere in the basement for a month, where Airtag will not find it. Only then will it sell and maybe after 2 months later you have a chance to find a bike from another owner. 50 days is minimum, not 3 days (and not one hour!) As You said 99.9% of people will use it normally. Suddenly not all of them will become criminals because Airtag will be useful. There are many more real GPS locators on the market that always work not only with iPhones. Think about it - someone would have to rummage through your things and plant it! This eliminates a lot of people - only relatives and family, someone with whom you are dating! This is not a real problem.
It should notify you once you move half a mile with it.
And when you stay over 2 hours at a second location then when it first was put on you. (For people that live in small towns, who’s house is close to the shops)
And what if he is a thief who has that item with the airtag. Then what's the purpose of the airtags/
This also kind of defeats the purpose of it. If I have it on something that gets stolen, the person who steals can just be notified that they're being tracked and disable it.
thats why you have 3 days to get your stuff back
He had a dirty look on his face when he realized he was gonna get tracked forever looooool
How do you restart the three days? Remove battery? Then the three days starts over?
There is no right amount of time, but the location can be used as the trigger, there should be an option to set 1-2 miles radius where you enable the unknown tracking notification.
So once you are inside that vicinity and there is another AirTag following you, you get notified as quick as possible, 5 minutes maybe.
so you mark yourself a known location where you go with the stolen goods to find out if its being tracked or not, if not just go home with it?
Here's what apple can do so let the airtag buyer be person A and the person whom A wants to stalk be person B. (He/she can be the victim of stalking or maybe the thieve )
If the Airtag get itself apart from person A for more than 2 kms or more let the Airtag notify person A that it's missing and to find it within 2hrs after the notification given to person A and if person A fails to collect airtag and let it know that it has found it then make the airtag be invisible (do not give person B notification yet) for 12 hrs and later give person A another notification that airtag is again available and you can find it again.
Another case -
Now if the airtag is within 2 kms don't notify the person B and see if the person A is chasing the airtag (using something idk what )for more than 3 kms then make the Airtag notify person B.
Hence the problem is solved for Apple users.
And what if someone was at their job working long hours and their stuff legitimately has been stolen and they don’t notice until they get off way more than 2 hours later.
There’s a lot more factors to take into account here
@@emotionaldistress Hmm . What you can do is make it clear to prioritize between work and the stuff with Airtag is attached to . And if you notice it after 2 hrs then as I said give notification again after more than 6hrs later from the first notification. And make it visible again for 2 hrs and this time if you fail to collect airtag give notification to person B that you have an airtag alongside you.
It’s actually being reported that girls on my campus are finding them hidden in their cars. Like someone open the bumper and hid it in there. The only reason they knew was that they were alerted on their phone.
I have been stalked by an AirTag, i got notified after 30 mins
In fact, whether you have an iPhone or not, after the third day of you being tracked, the actual AirTag that’s following you will start ringing so that you can find and disable it even if you have an Android.
3 days is too long. It's long enough for someone to stalk, bump off the victim and their entire family & catch a flight out off the country.
@@MegaRazzzz tile doesn’t have this feature so imagine that
@@lukeparsram9925 Tile doesn't have the footprint of a billion connected devices either. It's a fraction of a percent of Apple's. Most people didn't even know of their existence until a few days back. This comparison is between a startup & a behemoth.
If a Tile were to be used to stalk someone, there's a massive probability that it'll be lost forever as soon as it moves out of range.
Apple has opened the Pandora's box by knitting this feature so tightly into their OS.
What happens when the airtag detects the iphone its paired in those 3 days? Does it reset the counter? Thats perfect for wifey/husband issue. Cuz they meet every night yeah?
Apple, let me choose my own custom time to be notified if a tag is traveling with me. Don't decide my standard of safety for me.
But if someone wants to stalk you they could buy gps trackers for around the same price that won’t notify you. These devices have been around a long time
just imagine all the alerts people will get when traveling together for any period of time. like on a cruise ship. 😅
Or an airplane lmao.
@@theothernodude3139 you on an airplane for 3 days? Where tf you going?
@@a1zach_81 ur mom
sike nah just cruising around the world idk
@@theothernodude3139 “just cruising around the world” best answer I’de hear. That shit cracked me tf up.
but the owners’ phones would be in proximity too, that probably won’t count as malicious following
What happens if my kid borrows the car keys and goes to school? Is a classroom full of iPhones going to get an alert after day three of that? Or does it “reset” itself if the proximity goes away and it comes back to my phone?
Good question.
After reading some comments it’s become clear that when you enter an important place the notification pops up like maybe your home your work
Time, distance etc for the anti stalking feature should just be a setting honestly
One hour into your flight your phone blows up because 50 people on your flight has a tag with them.
Also to add it can give name tags to your personal tracking devices and give a timer or count down, so for eg. If you have tag on your car keys you might not always use your car so you get that option to time the tag to give you notification of lost or away from phone.
If it was only 1 hour. You would get nearly a hundred notifications while sitting at the airport. (Once they get mainstream/popular)
1 hour with you, not 1 hour and then with you for 5 seconds
On iPhones you only get the notification, if the airtag is with you and you are at a frequent place for example your home. I’ve tested it with a friends airtag twice. First We put the airtag in my pocket and I went home, after 10 minutes I got a notification. The other time I didn’t went home for 5 hours or so and then went home. And right as i got home I got the notification
It messages iphone users, when you’re in a safe / friendly / commun inviroment
There has to be "Scan airtags" option so you can check if theres airtags near you so you can check if theres someones airtags attached to you. For android users there someone have to make an app also that scans tags.
Can they sync the air tags to your contacts on iCloud so u get notified in three days on your friends stuff, but an hour for all the other air tags
What if you are inside a place (like a cinema) in the near future with an airtag you didn’t own, do all iphone users inside the cinema receives a notification?
Definitely adding this to my dogs collar!
first alert, 1 hour in "hey unknown airtag, are you borrowing this?" second alert, 1 day later, "hey just want to keep you in the loop some bros airtag is with you and it aint yours homie" third alert 2 day later, " ayo i would take out that battery"
Makes sense to me! Periodic reminders JUST IN CASE 💪🏾
Another argument would be, what if the item is stolen? I don’t want the thief be notified on their iPhone that an unknown airtag is around them. It will cause them to look for the airtag and than toss it.
@@cedricwager181 that's two totally different scenarios and the tag can't do both so pick one
Can the airtag be modified to deactivate the speaker so that it will not beep after 3 days?
If the same device pings the airtag 3 times in 12hrs, notify that iphone
Best thing they can do is give notification in 2 hours for the airtag which belongs to someone in your contact and they should notification in half an hour for unknown apple user
From various tests that have been going around, it seems that for iPhone users it throws the notification once a ‘significant location’ is reached. For non iPhone users though, yeah it’s three days when it starts making a noise. Still problematic, but less so for iPhone users: that’s Apple 😆
@laterclips what if when the airtag is not moving nothing happens. However when the airtag is away from the iphone and on the move it beeps 2 hours later ( buffer time ) every 5 minutes so everyone would know if they are being tracked regardless of having iphone android or no phone.
if you gave an hour during that time you wouldn't even realize that you miss a certain thing, such as a bike, and in a moment the thief gets the message, so he knows what to look for.
What if you’re on a long plane ride or a greyhond bus. That would be annoying if everyone gets a stalking notification in 2 hours
It’s designed to not give those alerts if it recognizes that your phone is nearby and it won’t alert other people unless those people go to a place the heavily frequently go to like their house
i actually have a solution for this: if your aritag is on whatever you lost, it will notify you first and will give you one hour time limit to start heading towards your stuff, because you would want to retreive it and your device will be able to tell if you are going that direction. if after one hour and the owner does not start approaching the airtag or contact the police, it will then be considered stalking and do whatever it does.
But what if the owner does not sees the notification before it's too late..... And 1 hour time ends.... Not only now he have to suffer the loss of his good but also face false charges of stalking
The largest problem I have with your "solution" is that is creates another problem. You can't have a solution create more problems. Your new problem would be, well what if i don't have time to go to where ever the airtag is located? I just lose my stuff because I am a busy person? that's not right. Yes, I want to retrieve my stuff, but not always can you get it at the immediate moment.
I don't think 1 hour is realistic, the owner might not check their phone notification that frequently, even if they do, they might not be able to head towards or notice the police within 1 hour therefore if someone forget their airtags in a library, after an hour, everybody in the library get the notification which is not a good idea.
Another problem with this is that as long as the stalker is heading toward the stalkee, it will not be considered stalking which is not good.
Lastly, it is not that easy to know if you are heading toward the airtag or not especially if the airtag is moving. If you have unlimited battery then it is easy but you don't in this case.
"...and do whatever it does" 😂
Deep thoughts from this one!
a direct attack at android users lol
3 days is the right amount of time. It's a weekend. There are countless ways to track people if you really want to track someone.
Every iPhone user should have the option of when to be notified if there’s an Airtag nearby for a certain amount of time. iPhone users should also be notified if an Airtag is nearby in more than one location they go to.
That’s what I was thinking. iPhone owners should be able to set this in their phone’s options.
Ironically, I've been interested in exactly the reason that there is a concern! I live near the Texas/Mexican border and just purchased a new F150. With the incidents of car/truck thefts being high here, combined with the vast apple network being so much greater than Tile I thought that it would be a great way to keep track of my truck if it was stolen...
Exactly.
What else would you want one for?
Is your keys it?
software fix? Maybe an option to ask if i have any airtags that are traveling with me?
Several ways I think this dilemma can be improved upon:
1) Allow users to select the frequency/sensitivity of the notifications. Those who are super concerned about possible tracking can choose to be notified every 30 mins if they want to vs those who are less concerned can choose every day.
2) Distance based algorithms should be considered, if not already. If an unknown airtag is planted inside your purse (very close) to your iPhone, you should be alerted sooner than if it was a person sitting next to you on the bus with their airtag “accidentally traveling” with you.
3) Allow the option for airtag to be used/tracked in the same family sharing network so they don’t produce a bunch of false negatives
How about Apple adding a setting in IOS to allow the user to setup up when they are notified by time, distance or immediately, whether they own an air tag or not?
or allow the person to turn off their own notifications. not the owner of the airtag, but the person with it. if they don't want the notifications just turn them off. if they're borrowing something from a friend they already know there's an airtag. imo the notifications being "annoying" if someone let's you borrow something is NOTHING especially when people are using it to STALK PEOPLE. let people be annoyed or let them turn off their notifications. don't wait 3 days to tell someone they're being tracked tf
If i was a thief i would love this. I would set it to immediately.
what about when you live in an apartment building and you go on a week vacation and leave some airtags at home… do the people in the surrounding apts get notifications? I think that adding some modes to specify “device being shared”, “person on vacation away from items” statuses might be helpful for the owner to specify how its being used at the current moment would make it easier to do hourly notifications… like yes simplicity is good but also provide the good owners with more options so that the bad owners can be more easily determined.
Then stalkers would use the vacation feature to totally circumnavigate the alerts that air tags give off to potential stalking victims.
This is so dangerous to the public… I can see the lawsuits coming. Can you imagine someone putting this on your vehicle without your knowledge to track you for three unsuspecting days to commit crimes of theft a vehicle or perhaps rape, domestic violence, kidnapping etc.??? Can you imagine your privacy being violated to the degree that you have no knowledge of it for three whole days and quite frankly even 30 minutes is too long not to know that a device have been planted on you or your vehicle without your knowledge.
Because of how many find my devices I'm thinking of getting one for my wallet and keys even tho I have an android because it has a web interface that I could use to get a rough location. I also wonder if someone will build an app that could detect the air tags on Android.
They need to have it for a full day at least. I have them set up on my lawn equipment. Had 1k of equipment stolen from me in the middle of the night. 1hr isn't long enough.
Invest yard night lights and cameras
3 days is how long it takes to beep. If you have an iOS device you will get a notification on your phone long before then
Lew was straight up wrong about this, he should really issue a correction. The 3 day beep is for people without iOS devices.
@Zyzz I guess if you have a home location set in your phone it will notify you as soon as you get home... Of you don't it will notify you at the end of the day. I guess the idea is if you stole the item it doesn't want to warn you you're being tracked immediately.
@Zyzz my best guess for non ios users is that
1. If the victim doesn’t have ios device then the stalker won’t be able to get a location because well the airtag needs an ios device to tell the servers it’s current location.
On a second thought. Crazy ex can still log my routine and stalk me. Airtag tells all the ios devices while I’m on the road
@@meshoverflow2150 Whatever it is, even if you have an iOS device, the tracker will only notify you once you get home.... So by the time you discover the AirTag on you, the stalker would have known your home address....
@@youngjezee if u have a neighbor with a ios device, it can pick it up & still let the stalker know where the tag is at.
Will my android notify me of an Apple air tag automatically or do I have to install the app to be notified when one is around?
They can design it such that there's an opt-in setting in the Privacy menu whereby you can set to be notified of any stray AirTag following you at intervals determined by you, say every 15-30 mins or an hour. That way, if there's any unknown AirTag following you, you'll be notified within the timeframe specified.
What about the scenario of mass transit? I lived in NYC for a while. If I have an air tag on my bag and I’m on a long subway ride everyone else’s iphone would be pinging that there’s an AirTag following them.
Just have a setting you can toggle and pick a time frame.
Then a thief or a car jacker will set it to the lost possible one and do his thing. So now the victim loses his property and the airtag.
How about coworkers traveling together or classmates an so on... does That means that a classmate or coworker is able to stop my tag from working?
A notification in an hour means it’s useless for tracking something stolen. So if I steal a backpack, and I get a notification in an hour, then I look for the airtag to remove and keep the stolen goods.
I wonder what temperatures it can handle, for example: can I place one in a lawnmower that will be working on South Florida? Will it stop working due to heat?
There are a lot of people that go to work the same way as you, or work next to you . You will get way to many notifications within an hour. But I would say 12 hours of perfect for getting that notification.
Maybe there’s an option in settings to select how long you want to wait for an alert and how many alerts you’ll be receiving?
@@Ecktor yes it would be good to give people the option as to how often they want to be alerted
I have a feeling one of these is on my personal work truck. My boss always seems to know exactly when I leave a job.
They must have changed this by now, in Toronto here, my friend and I went out together, and when he came back over to my house, it immediately notified me that an Airtag has followed me. They also added the feature to silence your friend's specific airtag for a day.
We’re all here worrying about stalkers when our governments want to know our whereabouts 24/7 😂
Correction: they already do 😅
Yes because the goverment won't touch unless u do some stupid shit
Psycho gf or just a stalker won't just leave u alone.
@@shuttzi9878 Psycho gfs and stalkers havent been waiting for AirTags though. You can get a gps tracker from Aliexpress for 15 $ which can transmit your location to any phone for 100 days or more. They even magnetically attack to the bottom of the car.
I think statistically, around the world, thieves are more common than stalkers, and you balance things out and you end up with those 3 days. Moreover, the principle is good, but you can't leave in fear. A stalker is less common than a thief or your own mind playing tricks on you and you always forget some damn things.
That's true, but a stalker is probably more dangerous than a thief.
@@The_Calm_Chaos not really. By their nature, they are cowards, hence the stalking. The predatory stalkers are something else. But let's take it as it is...a keys trackers😂😂
Put an option in settings when you want to be notified
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I'll stick to my long ass lanyard thank you 😂😂
It can’t be instant or an hour for theft reasons. If someone steals my backpack from my car with it in it and I’m asleep... they will be notified, find the air tag and throw it out. Probably a good reason for the 3 day rule. Maybe 2 days?
But if they know airtags exist they can just look for it and throw it out. They don't need to get notified just assume everyone has an airtag. Or empty the bag into another bag and toss yours.
@@OHCAM5 That’s a big IF. Also, they might find it only if they look through it thoroughly enough.
@@happytoberu They would knowing it might be there
@@OHCAM5 again, that’s a maybe. Maybe you would. Don’t steal.
@@happytoberu Not really a maybe if this is a know aspect of the tag. If someone steals your bag the will look for a tag. But this isn't made for that though it's just to find your lost keys or bag not stolen property. What they dropped the ball on was the anti-tracking thing.
My Fiancé’s airtag was around me for less than an hour and I got notified that “unknown item” was near me. This video needs more views because of how informative it really is.
Yeah but don’t you only get that notification if you have an iPhone? If the person has an android they’d be none the wiser.
Well, can’t do much about that
Y’all are correct with the Android aspect of air tags but it’s nice to know that it will beep after three days of being next to you. As for iPhone users it’s a mystery because I’ve been told three different times and stories.
if you have an android you are not tracked. it’s other iphones nearby that can track you. this video is full of misinformation.
@@dtaanic yes but think of the amount of iPhone users that android user with the planted airtag will pass in proximity to. Whoever is tracking you is surely going to have enough data to narrow down where you are.
I think the primary function is to mitigate theft. Why would I want a thief to know I’m tracking my stolen item before the cops get them?
Stalking is secondary. We have to consider our options.
It's a super weird situation, gun manufacturers aren't liable if someone uses their product for murder. Is Apple responsible if someone uses their product maliciously?
Imagine someone getting kidnapped and the only way to find them is an airtag that’s only active for 5 minutes.
PS: the kidnapper gets a notification after 5 minutes and beats the crap out of Batman
Holy smoke 😂😂
Unfortunately living in a developing country this may be a reality, not so much of a joke, 😪
Perhaps apple can come with a “check out system “if you let someone use an item wit one of your airtags. As far as tracking a person maybe let the user decide in their setting how long the notification of a foreign tag alerts you. In this setting the user could decide by time or by distance.
Personally, i feel like this is made a lot safer by a software patch that does a few things.
1. Have it able to be set by your phone when you get notified youre being followed by an AirTag. Have the settings be, like, 1hr, 12hrs, 1 day, 3 days, never.
2. If your registered AirTag is away from you for over 1 day, it begins telling every iPhone it comes in range of that it is missing every 30 minutes or something.
3. If you are borrowing a known individual’s belongings that have an AirTag on them, you can “approve” an AirTag by both individuals accepting a notification on both their phones
How close does it have to be to you for it to alert you? If a stalker puts it on your car and you go inside to sleep does the 3 days reset because it’s out of range?
24 hour is perfect but they have to add in settings a new figure that allows the airtag to be borrow for a friend. In my head makes sense
Ya I think that would be cool
Lol let me just say someone is borrowing it so the person im tracking doesnt get notified
All Apple would need to do is create the ability to temporarily "assign" your air tag to a new user for a set amount of time. That would eliminate the notification for that set amount of time.
Apple would make you pay $4.99 per month so that you don’t get stalked.
If I want to stalk someone, trust me, I am not going to use an apple tracker.
Legends be like
After three days stalker can put Another air tag
Or many just come close to you on a daily basis
There needs to be regulation for trackers of this level. Apple makes it way too easy for this to be misused
No
Also, Apple couldn’t be held liable for any crimes that could possibly be committed by using an airtag. That’s like saying your gonna blame a gun manufacturer because someone used their gun to kill someone. Lol
i tink it shood give you a prompt if the origenal phone isnt near and you have traveld whit the unknown airtag for 5 miles
But if you know where the tag is you can bring the tag owners phone to that location and have the timer reset.
@@petesmith4601 its not a timer is only if you travel a distance of x miles