@@hometowncommander yeah normally they would go to the GY, then cease to exist for state based actions, but the replacement says they just go to exile then cease to exist instead
@@TheSeckshun8 I figured with the whole "cease to exist" rider that they wouldn't actually go; but you get death triggers from tokens so who knows where my mind was at lol
Toxrill is questionable in this deck. Vren only triggers at each end step IF a creature has died BEFORE the beginning of the end step. It isn't a trigger that we can stack with Toxrill. If their creatures die from Toxrill's counters after the end step has already started, Vren won't make us more rats.
First time I came across you, Keep up the great work man! At ua-cam.com/video/dG7MkyxrP24/v-deo.htmlsi=t8N7op_3Z7zSPQrs&t=350 you say piles can't be empty but the card states: (Piles can be empty.) which is actually better since you can just exile all their creatures from the other pile that isn't empty.
I appreciate the encouragement! We are grinding and we aren’t gonna stop! Agreed, I think in my head I just naturally assumed no one would make a pile empty for strategic reasons so it hadn’t crossed my mind
For what it's worth, at 6:45, creature tokens actually do get exiled instead! So you'll get a rat for them still
Now we know! lol makes Vren even better
@@hometowncommander yeah normally they would go to the GY, then cease to exist for state based actions, but the replacement says they just go to exile then cease to exist instead
@@TheSeckshun8 I figured with the whole "cease to exist" rider that they wouldn't actually go; but you get death triggers from tokens so who knows where my mind was at lol
But Vren's ability is a replacement effect. "If a creature would die, exile it INSTEAD." Wouldn't that mean they don't proc any Die triggers?
You would be correct, I apologize if I missed that in the video
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Who doesn’t love some Rats? I had a ton of fun brewing up Wick that’ll be out this Friday
Toxrill is questionable in this deck. Vren only triggers at each end step IF a creature has died BEFORE the beginning of the end step. It isn't a trigger that we can stack with Toxrill. If their creatures die from Toxrill's counters after the end step has already started, Vren won't make us more rats.
Good call! Probably too much finesse to make work for the cost
Exile spells 🪄 rats 🐀 rats 🐀 and more rats 🐀 lol 😂
Rats on rats on rats on rats baby, these colors don't run lol
First time I came across you, Keep up the great work man! At ua-cam.com/video/dG7MkyxrP24/v-deo.htmlsi=t8N7op_3Z7zSPQrs&t=350 you say piles can't be empty but the card states: (Piles can be empty.) which is actually better since you can just exile all their creatures from the other pile that isn't empty.
I clearly can't timestamp right, it's at 5:50!
I appreciate the encouragement! We are grinding and we aren’t gonna stop!
Agreed, I think in my head I just naturally assumed no one would make a pile empty for strategic reasons so it hadn’t crossed my mind