The Powerful Cult Tier List
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What's the biggest cult in the world? Which cult is the most powerful? Here I give my take on those questions, ranking 6 powerful cults from F tier to S tier. You'll likely be familiar with a few on the list, like Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormonism, but others may surprise you. As in my Arguments for God's Existence Tier List video, we'll go over each group's stats and special abilities while discussing any strengths and weaknesses.
S/o to TierZoo for both inspiring this series and watching its first episode!
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What do you think of my list? Are there any powerful cults I missed? Would you make any changes here? I'm interested to hear your thoughts!
Great list. I think the Unification Movement or Moonies should be on there as well. They tried recruiting me. It was interesting to say the least.
Check out the quasi cult status of the North Korean state
Salah Islam is OP. Please NERF.
Where would be Catholic church?
You missed the cult of Trump. It's S tier with high population, money , and political power. Entrapment is high because of resistance to facts, but once you escape you never go back.
Good move giving F tier to the Amish who can't dislike the video.
호주사람 there’s a few of these fucktard groups also in New Zealand similar to Amish
@@MrTripsJ The Amish aren't fucktards. They're really nice people. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from a large Amish community. I've interacted with them a number of times. They aren't all that extreme. A lot of them drive and work outside of their community. Some have pretty significant businesses. Each Amish church has their own version of rules about technology.
IncognitoTorpedo And disowning them for leaving is not fucktardery? Come on dude, forcing people to live in that without their will and no exit future is fucked
@@incognitotorpedo42 indeed. I used to be a utility locator here in Topeka KS, and one locate was on a rural house where a construction crew was entirely Amish, but they were using battery power tools, listened to a baseball game on a radio, while dressing traditional, their accents total Midwest-- but I later found out they had to be driven to work sites by a non Amish.
amish may be a cult but honestly their the best cult they live simply and live communally I can respect that
The amish could be a race of elite assassins and we would never know, no birth certificate, no identification.
I have an amish grandmother and family and I can neither confirm nor deny this statement
Thanks for coming to my @Mr.Ted talks
Well there's an idea for a movie.
corrosivecabal 👀👀👀 you fucking fax it could be like a real drama and shit tf 😎
the real world equivalent of the Zoldyck family
As an excommunicated Mormon I do agree it's pretty hard to be excommunicated... but it's a lot easier if you're gay. :)
ZeeGeeJay why? 😮
Wonder Jorge Mormonism is homophobic
That sucks man but as a Mormon I know tons of gay Mormon guys who are loved by the church and a lot of times when people do get excommunicated it’s because of bad local church leaders we don’t hate gay people as a whole
In the past that was pretty quick way to be excommunicated, but in recent years, it has become a lot harder. I'm inactive in the church, but I've met several openly gay active members, who have even tried fellowshipping me. Excommunication takes some very serious crimes at this point, like murder, or rape.
Dillon Mathews don’t hate gay people as a whole but force them to essentially accept the fact that they will never, in their entire lives, find love. I know there are some gay members. I just hope for their own sakes that they’ll find it in themselves to leave ❤️
I know someone who fell in love with an Amish girl. She left the community and married him. it was really sweet actually.
Seems a like a movie "sex drive"
@@wtfwtf2956 is that an actual movie because of it is not that needs to be made
@@ollie1704 it is a movie
@@wtfwtf2956 oh dammn Ima have to watch that
there's nothing sweet about that
I was expecting S tier to be Herbalife and Essential Oils.
Are those really a branch of Mormonism? Utah is festered with MLM schemers.
@@swordguy1243 true.... today they use the MOAB and assault rifles...
@@swordguy1243 yeah.... no... Christianity spread with a lot of violence throughout Europe, the Inquisition started in the 13th century, but befor that often whole tribes were slaughtered for not bowing diwn befor the Christian rulership. Then there were the Crusades, the Witchhunts, the religious war of the reformation, the Conquests of India, Africa and America and several brutal genozidal attacks because the natives refused to convert, then there were and still are several Christian terrorgroups in America and Africa, there was a religious conflict in Ireland. The Nazis were mostly Christians and believed in a certain interpretation of scripture and Hitler as a Messianic figure, not to mention that the two major warmongering superpiwers of the Planet are dominated by Christians.
Stop white-washing history!
@@swordguy1243 The Inquisition killed a lot of people in the 15th and 16th centuries as well.
It's also worth noting cristians were also far more brutal than muslims preceding that. The wrechage from the capture of Constantinople in 1204 by the fourth crusade was worse than the capture by muslims in 1453. This is despite the city being captured from Christian rulers both times.
Theres also how followers of each religion treated third parties; Jews regularly fled Christiandom for places led by muslims because it was so much safer. As an example, Ladino first developed in the iberian peninsula, but all surviving Ladino-speaking communities are in places that belonged to the Ottoman empire.
@@swordguy1243 bruh Romans did that to everyone they conquered.
Once, a guy tried recruiting me to join the Moonies. I was still a Christian then, but this guy knew the Bible better than me. This happened at a Barnes and Noble. He of course interpreted scriptures in a very peculiar way, but it wasn’t any different than how evangelicals do it.
He lost me at, “Jesus already came back and he’s Korean.”
so there is a korean jesus...
Kim?
so it was a kpop fan?
Aren't the Moonies a Christian sect?
Was his name ahn sang Hong?
The next time I talk to the JWs on my doorstep, I'm going to speak exclusively in gaming lingo.
"I'm sorry but your Entrapment stats are just way OP, yo"
My favorite story to do with JWs is from my own experience and my Dad's.
My Dad had become sorta friends with a JW (I think got chatting when they came around.). My Dad made the deal "I'll come to your church once if you'll come to my church once." We went once, stopped hearing from them shortly after that..
I find the Morons at my doorstep can be fun. And they always come back for more. But i've also seen them in action in southern Philippines where their naif youths in white shirts-and-ties go around converting people living in abject poverty to tithe ( hand over 1/10 of their income) - just like Jesus did 😂👍🏻.
I'd be like dude, sorry I just can't join your guild, you guys are weak...if you see any Haredis or Mormons though, send them my way. Don't worry about those crazy salamis though, they want too much practice time and are too toxic and cut your hands off if you wipe the raid. XD
Gaming lingo I would use Is your lag is to much to be on this server.
Now I must get back to ranked matches or lobby's.
If you never want to talk to them again just say “I’m an apostate “
I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and been disfellowshipped twice. First when I was 17 and lost my virginity , I was told I had to marry him if I wanted to continue the relationship and they questioned absolutely everything I had done as a minor. Did I have oral? Where? how many times? etc. I came back because of my parents, I missed them. I wasn't allowed to even have dinner with them . Three years later I divorced the guy I was with because he was extremely abusive and controlling. He made me quit college. And all the "Elders" had to say was that many other "sisters" have remained loyal to their spouses and by their side regardless of the abuse and eventually he would change with their help and guidance. That was in 2014 and I never went back. As a mom I could never do that to my children.
Good for your children and for you, I hope you guys are well now,cults are very dangerous and should not be taken easily.
God my friend Almost got “shunned” by the elders because he and his gf ALMOST had sex and for some reason his gf went and told them? I’m actually really worried for my friend but I don’t want to offend him by bashing on his cult
Gggggyyyyyy y y rrdsr Cm. We
Glad to hear you are doing good, hope you all live long and healthy lives
Congrats 🎊
As a former Jehovah’s Witness I can tell you the elders are very very very passive aggressive.
Ya elders are the most cult like, everyone else is pretty chill
Everyone crazy periodt.
@@Tycy2014 Not everyone and elder wives are worse.
@@Tycy2014 All of em are nut bags.
Can letting children die because they don’t believe in blood transfusions be considered passive? Honestly asking. Is having the power and choosing not to use it not an action? The hospital does have to take action if the child is in the hospital as there are laws that obligate the hospital to attempt to save the child’s life.
Wanne avoid dangerous cults? Only practice safe sects!
That's a T-shirt!
I nominate you for best comment of the year
I only have street sects
:)
classic dad joke
saying “special abilities” like we trading Pokémon cards
Yo I got three Churches of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
I’ll give you two of them for a Scientology and a Jehovah’s Witnesses
@@Robbity Hey can I have an aum shinrikyo for this people's temple?
@@annadimson1446 I don’t have any Aum Shinrikos. Would you settle for a Moonies?
@@Robbity sure!
Funfact: You cant look Pokemon in JW, cause they say it stands for Poket-Demon and thats evil
"while the women are expected to earn all the family's income and be the primary caretaker of their children" excuse me what in the fuck
Girl power!!! Go Feminism!!! Best cult ever for men.
@@seytanuakbar3022 That's literally the opposite of feminism. Feminism's goal is to eliminate all social rules and expectations based only on gender. Under the feminism ideology, neither men or women would be expected to earn the family's income or be the primary caretaker; it would be up to the individual to decide which role is best for them.
@@TheChocoXCheese That was the joke.
@@TheChocoXCheese come on take a joke
@@TheChocoXCheese Then why is most feminism a rejection of femininity and an expectation for women to be masculine?
This guy’s talking about cults like tier zoo talks about animals
I'm here for it.
Gamification is powerful
@@showcase0525 Agreed
TierCult
Kylek1133 they’re like animals, AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS
I remember my in laws taking their sick nephew at 8 years old to a tv faith healer. As he laid hands upon him he said, " I know God has healed this little boy". Needless to say, he died at 16 from the disease.
I'm very sorry for your loss. This depicts perfectly my massive problem with religion. Many value their belief more than logic and in the worst case hurt other with that.
Did he die from the same disease? 8 years is a long time
@@cyberspartan2370 Yes... Cystic Fibrosis
@@usfreight I'm sorry for your loss friend
May he Rest in Peace
Me: WHAT scientology only D? No, you are WAAAY off, they have so much money and power and... what!? 35.000 members? Only 35.000?! Oh, OK. D then. Man, they really a lot of attention for their size. All those movie stars, I guess.
They actually have 7-15 mil. estimated members worldwide, the Scientology Frankfurt has around 30.000 members, he was a little bit off on this one
@@chadjehebej2258 That is what they say, though. That's not a reliable source. Experts think that's how many people they actually succeeded to convince to take their stupid first test... Apparently when you make national surveys about what religion you are, Scientology doesn't even get a statistically meaningful number.
There may be as many as 12.000 in all of Germany. But certainly not 30.000 in Frankfurt.
@@RegebroRepairs Scientology Frankfurt counts all German members, but the headquarters are in Frankfurt.
@@chadjehebej2258 Actually, Googling around a bit, 30.000 is what they claimed for all of Germany before. They have claimed lower numbers more recently. In 2013, for example: Heute gibt es ungefähr 12.000 aktive Scientologen in Deutschland; weltweit beträgt die Scientology Mitgliederzahl 10 - 12 Millionen.
We know the 10-12 million is a lie, the 12.000 is probably also a lie.
I have a question, how does scientology work?
The Heradi one is literally just women doing everything and the men existing
As a Jew, yup.
In a weird way, it’s feminism. But in a weird way, it’s also definitely not.
@@leoshteynberg3013 I'd say it's just not feminism. Feminism fights for the equality of men and women to do whatever they want without any worries of gender roles or expectations. This is exactly not that, and is a patriarchy in its purest form.
This kind of culture existed in small communities where women did everything and every single men was a soldier.
@@davideloiza1779 then why is it called feminism, shouldn't it be called equalism or sth
@@wireboar7321 Well don't take my word for it, but I think it's mostly an issue of dialect. Feminism was first coined as a term for the rights of women since they were indisputably worse off than men back then. But if I understand correctly, as women gained more and more rights, a lot of them started to realize that the negative effects of gender roles went both ways in society, like how boys locked away their feelings or commit suicide more often. And since feminists were basically already fighting for gender equality, they combined with their allies and strove to improve the condition for everyone since (...except for the misandrists of course but just flip them off and call it a day, they don't matter). So while feminism is still definitely predominantly for women, there's also a large push for men to do whatever they want. Language is a weird thing, no?
Next episode: Mass genocide tier list
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Yahweh would get F through S. Nobody else would even make the list.
nooooo......
Is it weird that as an ex-Mormon, I was almost strangely proud that they hit A-tier?
That's because we're the very best that no one ever was.
When you own a US state....
@@tac2oo7 Nah, it's actually pretty overblown.
Arnox Immordium not really. They own the state legislature. There is some leaked audio of a conversation between a senator or congressman and the 12. He made it clear that he would do whatever they they wanted.
We gotta fight for that S teir. Game on! Lol
As an ex-member, I'm glad you included Jehovah's Witnesses. There is not near enough public awareness of the high-control cult tactics employed by the organization.
Raised as a Jehovah's Witness, left at 15, I can vouch for everything said here
How tf did u leave before adult hood I'm not a jw or never have been but that seems a bit difficult with any religion or cult
@@brian5128 I just started getting into hobbies that the "congregation" wasn't cool with (painting miniatures, Magic the Gathering card game, Boy Scouts). My interest in these things was tolerated since I was young & not-baptized. But then I started researching other religions & beliefs (as one tends to do at that age). My mother printed off my search history regarding other religions & what they considered "witchcraft" & unexpectedly took me to the Hall where I was confronted by 2 Elders and sat down for an interrogation.
I wasn't having it & walked out, then walked 6 miles to a gas station to have my dad (who was not a JW) come pick me up.
By the time I got home, my mom had thrown away thousands of dollars worth of my collectables & hobby items. I of course refused to go after that.
The whole experience was traumatic and I firmly believe that it changed the trajectory of my life, for the worse so far anyways.
@@toomanyhobbies116 if your butthurt because you were committing sins then that's your problem , JW don't play by their rules but by the bibles rules
@@Snackjoker7 Facts. idk how ppl dont see/realize they follow the bible and do everything for jehovha and get no personal gain from the org.
@@Snackjoker7 Your rampant paranoia about anything even remotely adjacent to spiritism and paganism is not based on the bible. Magic the Gathering is a card game, not an occult ritual. No one playing that game even thinks magic is a real thing. It has never been a gateway for anyone into the occult. Any normal, rational human being knows this, but not a human that is ruled by fear, and clearly not love based on the attitude on display in your post.
I got called a cult once...well, I think that’s what he shouted at me.
Bruh!
Wait... a person called you... a cult?? Wut?
A cult with one member?
Call him a Moonie.
If you know Greek, you'll get it
@@greywolf7577 I thought cults didn't have members. he he he he he
As a mormon, we gotta up our game. Gotta get that S tier.
Yeah, the world doesnt see us evil enough yet lol. But the gap between us and the world increases every year unfortunately
@Jake H Accepted in the LDS church or in society? Cuz its accepted in neither lol
I know, right!? We were totally downplayed. Our net worth is much closer to 150 billion than 67. And those muslims are hardly organized, we've got enough infrastructure to decide elections, survive the apocalypse, and start our own civilization. The church doesn't want to get too involved in politics, so influencing elections is a bit out of the question, but we already have plans for when the apocalypse starts up.
@@KnuttyEntertainment hecka true, as long as we all got our year food and water supply we chilling
I live in Utah but not Mormon, there are multiple churches and sectors at every street corner.
Just wanted to let you know that this video was the beginning of my journey of realizing I live in a cult (mormonism). If it werent for this I never would have looked into the BITE model. Which led me to reading A letter of my wife and CES letter. Thanks a ton man. You really helped me out
Wow! I’m happy to be of help. I know that journey has to be difficult, as I was once in an oppressive religious environment (IFB) and left. Whatever ideas you’re questioning, know that you’re worthy of love and the freedom to explore whatever ideas you’d like. There’s nothing wrong with you for wanting to get to the truth, even if others take issue with that. Thank you for sharing! Wishing you the best in your journey. 😊
I think Mormons are higher in entrapment, their children are heavenly incalcated, especially in Utah. Many recovering mormons from that region go through a hellish time.
IDK man, death is worse.
Compared to Jw’s I don’t know man, you’ve got some fierce competition in that area
And that experience is the MILD side of what the cults listed do, as hellish as it already is
Eh I’m an ex Mormon, it really depends because the younger generation of Mormons especially in Utah have seen a large influx of non Mormons into the state to support its rapid growth and because of this they may know a lot of non Mormons that can fall back onto once they leave the church and Mormon families are still taught and usually do love their kids even if they leave
What the hell does incalcated mean?
I joined the Blue Oyster Cult but was excommunicated for fearing the Reaper.
You can be like they are! Come on, baby!
I was excommunicated for not using enough cowbell.😢
Scientology: *massively infiltrates the IRS in order to strongarm them through corporate blackmail into continuing the church's tax exempt status*
Genetically Modified Skeptic: "D"
Scientology: "Am I a joke to you?"
Not to mention the multiple fucking assassinations and murders they're involved in. L Ron Hubbard even admitted it was a scam, comparing it to luring fish.
But they are not a cult either. Why? Because they said that they aren't.
Genuinely not sure what you mean about corporate blackmail. Blackmail takes the form "If you don't do what I want I will..." I can see the first half of this would be "If you don't continue to give Scientology tax exempt status the Scientologists who have infiltrated the IRS will..." but I can't imagine what the second half would be. Can you give an example of what you believe that threat is please?
@@dionlindsay2 I can't recall the exact details, but if I remember correctly they threatened to release some kind of information they had gathered that would have put the IRS in a bad light. I could be misremembering, though. It's been a while since I read anything on it.
Agreed!!
I lost my best friend to Mormonism as you call it. We met in college, she was really challenging her religious (Reorganized Church of Latter-Day Saints) upbringing, at one point declaring herself atheistic, but made the mistake of posting this online and it got traced back to her parents. We enjoyed several years together, sharing each other's best triumphs and tragedies, religion stopped being a topic we discussed. Then she started to get distant in a way I couldn't quite define, then one day in the car she tells me she is going back to church (RLDS) and I was understandably shocked and concerned; she lied and told me she never turned away when I know for a fact she did (I helped her move, helped with rent, etc. because her family cut her off financially among other things). Then at last she ghosts me. I did everything I could to reach her again, but she made her decision and that didn't include me. It was like my best friend died, but I had no funeral to go to in order to grieve. One late night a year or so later she calls me, tells me her pet died. I was so shaken to just hear her voice that all reason failed me and I wonder if that was perhaps one last cry for help that I completely failed to answer. Or maybe she wanted closure? I don't know, and it haunts me.
If you ever feel like your friend is in danger of a cult, I hope you do better than I did. I didn't know just how cultish LDS can be, and I don't know what exactly it was that took my friend from me, but I suspect family pressure. Hold your friends close against these insidious belief systems.
I have to say, I live near a growing Amish community in the Midwest and I have to disagree with the money. The individuals themselves do not have much money, but the community as a whole is very wealthy. They hold monopolies on several businesses here, often go out and do contract work in construction, and when there is land for sale, they have such a large cash reserve, few can outbid them.
@Logan Walker Nah, north arkansas
I was raised as a JW and initially rejected people calling it a cult even after I left it alone. But now yeah, I can say it's definitely a cult
Same as me
Damn same here lol ya couldn't see ya couldn't see😩😩
Why is that?
@@jovanvazquez1697 do the research. Dont be lazy.
Yep, same here. I found myself telling people it wasn't a cult but after a while I realised it was.
Time to change you channel name to “religion zoo” looks like.
Probably TierReligion or something like that
LMAO
@@TierZoo Didn't expect to see you here!
@@TierZoo WHAT
A lot of people don’t know @tierzoo watches these vids. I think I saw him on a telltale vid once.
Edit: It may just be a tier list thing though, I don’t mean to speak for others
My grandma has an Amish community near her. She trades homemade jams for help around the house/farm. They are very friendly.
When I was in Vienna on vacation last year, I nearly got some chick from Scientology to break her very very friendly demeanor. I just asked what happened to Shelly Miscavige and then went on and on about how we all should praise the Gods in the Warp and other shit from WH40k, I mean if they come at me with Sci Fi, I can do the same lol
Worship the warp gods?! Heresy! You are clearly a threat to the imperium and will be destroyed accordingly! Long live the God Emperor! May he reign forever!
@@victoriat8922 yeah, I was just building my Noise Marines at that time so I got a bit into the whole Slanesh stuff
WH40K....this is gold! I would have loved to see her face lol
@@funkywinston1854 Damn if he quoted Stellaris, he'd be calling them spiritualist scum not worthy of the Shroud.
@@victoriat8922 I don't know a whole lot about WH40K, but isn't the Emperor literally powered and kept alive by consuming the souls of small children? If so... he might actually get to hold a candle to some cult leaders in the real world! 😉
This feels like you’re describing RPG classes, with the stats and special abilities, and I’m totally into that.
Someone needs to make a "Religions And Cults" version of D&D, with world domination as the ultimate objective.
It's a TierZoo reference.. you should check him out.
I used to be a Jehovah’s Witness I got out the people you thought were family just cut you off completely... I’ve had a better life since I left as well as my family.
From another former witness, congratulations!
True, life def gets better when getting out. Imagine the lost time we wasted back then lol
Luedizer Universal thousands of hours. Especially at the 3 day conventions...
SkittleWinklerUK so very accurate the 3 day assemblies were the worst
LimitlessPotential we used to go to the Millennium Stadium here in the UK. Plastic seats for watching football that were okay for an hour, but after that were insanely painful, not to mention the British weather making it 30°C in a suit, then 10 minutes pouring down with rain and getting soaking and shivering
I can't believe you forgot CallMeCarson discord cult...
Dream Stan cult
that aged quick
AZFK cult
@@hogndog2339 ong
@@hogndog2339 ah, yes, our fearless leader dream, who definitely tells us to do stuff all the time. for example, he instructs his followers to... uh... hit the like button.
I went to college in northern New York, where there’s a big Amish population. They were always in Walmart buying sodas and frozen pizzas. They were the sweetest and sold the best baked goods and foods at road stands.
They are quite similar to the Quakers, but Quakers live in all regions of the Country. I know there were communities of them that live in Southern Idaho. from when I used to live there.
Being in A tier feels less impressive when there's only one cult per tier
He just mentioned one per tier, there is obviously more
This is mainly a classical Abrahamic tier-list.
We probably have to wait a long time for the Asian, african and southeast asian expansion pack.
Speaking as practicing Catholic, I'm bummed we didn't make the finals.
Same, was really hoping we’d take the crown 😂
Proud member of a gold encrusted death cult!
Heresy. I’m telling Pope Francis.
That turd has been polished enough already
@ALEX W. cry more prot
The Latter Day Saints don't really feel like a cult until you join BYU. Leaving the university is actually several times harder than leaving the actual church, and even on your mission, the members have actually been granted to talk to family members more and a lot of them I know talk to their friends home who all seem to be members. However, leaving the church is a very easy task and questioning seems to be encouraged all until and if you enroll into BYU, which a lot of members I know are completely against. Still could be a cult socially and economically, but not to its actual members
As a person with Ex-Amish parents, I feel that your research into the Amish was VEERRY surface level. The Amish are very localized -where I am from most Amish children go to public school, adults work in manufacturing and many other fields (my uncle runs a tax service even) They definitely get birth certificates and SSN's and the famous "Rumspringa" is where teenagers get a chance to decide for themselves if they want to join the church (my parents left the community during this time and never joined). - that's not to say they are not cultish in many ways but seriously do some better research! (not to mention that most of your footage was of mennonites or german baptists)
Thank you, I thought the version you described was more common so was confused. I know that there are multiple smaller groups who also get called Amish as a short hand
My fiance is a former Jehovah's Witnesses.
She's Wiccan now; quite the tone shift.
I've had relationships in the past with three such people.
Often times that happens Wiccan and pagan beliefs have no strict rules you create the rules you live it your way. That is a much different and calmer tone for former cult members I was raised Mormon me and my boyfriend practice older religions such as pagan and among others Christianity is often fear mongering, rule abiding, or you adapt to it's teaches rather then it adapting to your life. Wiccan and pagan like beliefs don't ask you to change or hide yourself anyone can join and they're isn't any hate or shunning. That's why it's common the belief is allowing you to be the way you are. (the way your intended.) instead Christianity who wants you to change to be what God wants.
Anti Theist I’m kinda stuck in that religion bc I’m still a minor but at least now my mom doesn’t force me to go. I’ve considered paganism because it sounds really interesting
Wicca was almost a cult itself, the creator in the 1900s seemed to be trying to steer it that way. It had such low entrapment though that it just didnt work out that way. Now lots of people practice it casually, and most dont even realize what its origin really is.
Perhaps she is in a journey. It's difficult to switch from a cult to atheism.
This video literally seems like a Pokemon Tier list, with stats and abilities and all. But as a Pokemon fan, I love that.
literalllllllllllllllly
Bruh you need to check out TierZoo if you haven't
Are Mormons pseudo legendaries then?
If you like this, check out TierZoo
Its a mother fucking Tier Zoo refernce
As a Mormon I was just waiting to see where I fell on the list. Now I can send this video to people and flex my high cult status at them.
Ha lmao I am A tier what you atheist lmao your not even in the list
@@obese_duck5954 why would atheism be in the cult list
OBESE_DUCK what? someone translate that to english pls
genuinely curious- why r u proud of being in a cult?
K. Nylen it was a joke
Could you look into the Gulen movement? I was in that cult from when I was a child and even though they have millions of followers, they never get talked about. They are very secretive thought and I doubt finding information on them is going to be easy. But I'm sure you can find an ex-member like myself in the US.
dude thats interesting, u should reach out to him directly though bc i doubt hell see this and u being an ex member makes u a great source
What the fuck is wrong with the US. Why you have so many cults over there. Even in conservative regions of Europe people believe in the normal churchs and never isolate like that. Only a few Jehová witness and thats all
@@nicosd3017 I blame McDonald's. Though seriously, something is wrong with the US' cultural climate. Not only does it breed cults like mice, it also has a high volume of conspiracy theorists and flat-earthers you'd never find anywhere else. Also, facebook and twitter is technically a cult now.
How do you know it has millions of members
@@yeetyeetyeet1967 I remember CNN I think claiming it has 20million members. My peers also had told me the same. I also remeber them saying this scary thing when we were on a trip in Turkey that half of the police is in it and I should not worry about them. Look it up, it has alot of similarities with the Ayathollah of Iran.
"I never wear buttons but I got a cool hat
And my homies agree
I really look good in black fool!"
MrStephan246 “If you come to visit you’ll be bored to tears
We haven’t even paid the phone bill in 300 years
Now we ain’t really quaint so please don’t point and stare we are just technologically impaired
@@sparetime2475 "There's no phone, no lights, no motorcar
Not a single luxury
Like Robinson Caruso
It's as primitive as can be"
@@Geohovahs_Hand We been spending most our lives
Living in an Amish Paradise
We're just plain and simple guys
Living in an Amish Paradise
There's no time for sin and vice
Living in an Amish Paradise
We don't fight, we all play nice
Living in an Amish Paradise
* I really look good in black, fool!"
(that comma is important)
Hitchin' up a buggy,
Churnin' lotsa butter,
Raise a barn on Monday,
Soon I'll raise anudder!
Think you're really righteous?
Think you're pure of heart?
Well I know I'm a MILLION
Times as humble as THOU art!
"They even have their own university" *shows university of utah
Raises glasses: They have four actually.
@@Cybernaut551 wait what ones besides BYU I live in Utah and do not know this
@@fart_balls_ m
@@fart_balls_ . Ensign College (aka LDSBC) in Utah
However BYU-Idaho, BYU-HI are out side of UT, and BYU Pathways Worldwide is international and internet based.
Haha I thought that was funny too
You forgot about the biggest cult: Jedism
Anakin Skywalker can confirm that to be true.
This has been a public service announcement by Emperor Palpatine
Lol, me, who grew up in a cult:
Fun! 😂
Edit: long explanation
I grew up in and out of an evangelical cult, run by one pastor who controlled every person in the church. My grandmother is sort of high up in the chain of people and was friends with the pastor before they began their “ministry” so when I was young my grandma would take us to her cult in the summer. My siblings and I were the very few who were technically let out into the outside world considering the pastor didn’t have control of us and we weren’t technically initiated members even though my grandmother was. So while other kids suffered a lot of abuse, our care was given to my grandmother who probably is the only thing that kept us from getting beaten for hours on end, locked in rooms alone, ridiculed etc. (I am not sure what other things the children probably went through. This is just what I know from looking up court cases later in life). However, we were still spanked, blasted at (a type of screaming in tongues prayer that quite literally is just you sitting with people in a circle around you screaming at you to release your demons) and just plain shamed into acting how they wanted. Children were sort of seen as inherently possessed by satan and therefore you could be sinning in any way they wanted. I for one have ADHD and got a few spankings for being too fidgety. I was once asked to stand up if my parents loved me, and spanked for not standing fast enough. A cousin and I once began plugging and unplugging our ears during screaming prayer and another kid told on us for “making music out of the prayer” 😂 (realizing how ridiculous it is).
Anyway, the pastor quite literally controls everything. Wether you go to college and what you study, who you marry, where you work with almost all places of employment being cult run, how many kids you have, when you have sex (yes, after talking with people who have left, you literally had to ask the pastor for permission). The outside world was dangerous and TV was not allowed, (I was there in the 90s so internet wasn’t really an issue),
There’s so much more. But I’m not sure if anyone is interested in it.
Scientology reminds me of “free-to-play” games...
And then when it is too late, you discover it was a "Fee To Pay" game... Then you notice, in the small print, "And We reserve the right to enslave you for a thousand years"
Why is this accurate
Lol
@GRBTutorials isn't most sects pay to play salvation?
@@Bishka100 Billion. 1 Billion years.
I can see why they call it The Watchtower. They literally watch your every move.
They are micromanaging. I really hate that cult.
It's like the members are programmed robots always saying the into: "We are being advised..." I'm like: "NO, You are being advised, not me - I'm no part of your freak show!" ...ex JW here :))
Sasuke Uchiha you have no idea what you are talking about!
Blyat Blyatrakov such a stupid comment!
laura archer Interesting comment from a brainwashed JW
"A religion is just a cult with a franchise" - Cadeceus Clay, 2020
Cults has a single living person as a leader that members hail as a divine or enlightened leader.
Not all religions do.
@@WhaleManMan not true. Besides, most popular religions have that, the Muslims had the Khalif, the Catholics have the pope. Only ones that don't are the eastern religions like Sikhism,Buddhism,Hinduism,Jainism,
Taoism,Zoroastrianism blah blah
@@roojackaroo8517
1. Protestants?
2. You're acting like "the Eastern religions" are a minority?
@@WhaleManMan they are lol, all the religions of the east combined don't have as many followers as Islam or Christianity alone. Plus, that's not even a proper definition of a cult.
I was just pointing out that even in your flawed definition, most people still follow 'cults'
@@roojackaroo8517 just want to say that the pope is not worshipped, he is only an authority. They worship Jesus
Devout Latter-day Saint here...this video actually wasn’t too wrong about us. There are a lot of us, our organization is wealthy, we tend to be pretty happy and nice, and we try not to be TOO manipulative to get people to stay.
I think one of the biggest flaws of the culture of the church is that too many members seem to believe that church values = republican values.
Wasn't there the story of an ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT QUITTING because a Black woman became mayor?
If I could go back and kill baby Joseph Smith and every Slaveowner in America I would
I would also introduce 20th century tech to China, Korea, Thailand and Japan
@Jordan Stanford I think that is true for many non-Mormon Christians as well, and it's turning my friends against Christianity as well. I'm scared to be open about my faith sometimes :/
Well said
@@christiandauz3742 my guy Joseph was actually an abolitionist and ran for president with an intent to get rid of slavery don’t lump him in so easily
@@davindecker7457
Hypocrisy, he kept slaves as his wives! Anyone that marries a 13-year old girl is no different than a slaver!
Plus his Mormons committed genocide in Utah!
When I first heard of Scientology, I thought of a group of scientists and fans of science simular to how a non profit works but for science
Basically that is close to the original motivation;
The weird stuff you read is 1 in 6 million and if even that;
Mr. Hubbard speaks openly as to his motivations for calling it a religion and most non-biased critics who do not drive the traditional OSA Troll DC-8 will be capable of reciting the basics of that; It has become an *MLM* is what the critics contend;
@@ChiDraconis ahh well that's a shame, guess we need a new group for science, and why not one for education as well.
@@Stormingmiku I have had better luck for that trying you tube and internet though takes much work; Many very good results - it has become a worn battle for me; There are finds the make it worth the time such as Woit: _Not even wrong_
That sorta says it rather well;
Peter Woit (/ˈwɔɪt/; born September 11, 1957) is an American theoretical physicist. He is a senior lecturer in the Mathematics department at Columbia University. Woit, a critic of string theory, has published a book Not Even Wrong and writes a blog of the same name.
@@ChiDraconis interesting
@@Stormingmiku Despite being thrown off by a Neurologist whom did not have time for my exotica I have continued work in what in SCN is known as Upper Indoc; Not that they have the field to them-self; Many who note Ronnies use of other's work have not done the simplest backing story;
"It'll be any day, trust us." Pretty much New Testament. Snookering folks for over two thousand years.
Im late, but i was wandering the same thing. Like from what apostles wrote, it seems like they belived they live in 'the last days'. Well soon they'll be dead for 2000 years, and seems like nothing changed. Also according to fundamentalists, it would mean that last days last for 1/3 of human history, which would be kinda peculiar.
I lost such a dear friend to the Jehovahs Witnesses...I miss her.
@@quantitativediseasing9988 good for you.keep going.
Quantitative Diseasing I think that religion is nonsense.I don’t believe in any gods.
And you have the right to believe what you believe.My only beef with religion is when it strays out of personal belief and into government,which I think should remain humanist and secular.Otherwise,who cares?
Quantitative Diseasing Great.Don’t vote.
I’m binging all of your tier lists. I love them all.
"The difference between a cult and a religion is what happens when you try to leave" I'm not convinced a "low entrapment" cult is technically a cult.
@Andre I- I don't know what to think of this comment. I hope its a troll... but it's probably not
@Andre it entirely depends on whose definition of a cult you go by. With Google's definition "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object." then every religion that has one or more gods is a cult. I usually use Google's definition because it is the most readily available to pull up in a conversation, but in your case it entirely depends what you define a cult as. Although i think you'll find that christianity falls into a large amount of the definitions of "cult"
@@shotgun3628 yeah idk why we can't call it what it is. Which is a mega cult that has dominated entire cultures with no good evidence of its "God"
@Andre ok if so then why should people believe it? If you can't prove it. It's not my responsibility to disprove thier claims. It's thier job to prove it.
Then islam is a cult
“...all of these groups are OP and should be nerfed.” Almost laughed up a lung at that. 😂
Damn you Amish with your furniture and buggies!
I randomly found this video in my feed and I don't regret watching it! Great content and especially great way of talking and discussing. Subscribed 😁
"Mormons, they're the ones that believe the Bible's a trilogy and The Book of Mormon is Return of the Jedi", hahahahahaha, what a great analogy.
it's actually from the musical "the book of mormon" originally, i think!
I once had to listen to some Mormons after they beat my friends in a 2v2 basketball game
dragon slayer god 😂, they’ll get you like that
Why does that ring a bell
It helps that we have a basketball court in pretty much every church building lol.
That god damn Utah Jazz
Fuck, I’d give them a listen if they could ball over me. Bloody Mormons, cunning as all hell
I'm so glad JWs were on this list. They deserve it.
Cottonsocks434 .... Jesus is Satan the devil... you've been deceived... repent accept Jahovah and do good works.
@@cwdor you are / jws truly Anti Christ , 1 JHON 2: 22-23
^ nut jobs
Paul Denino bots probably
@@cwdor Bob loves you.
I have learned soooo much from this channel. Didn’t expect that order but really appreciate the breakdown of your reasoning.
This style of media discourse is surprisingly effective and concise. Well done.
Having been a Mormon and having a mother who is one, Mormon missionaries are now able to communicate with their family over call and email weekly now I believe if not monthly
Tanner Brink can confirm, it’s now weekly calls. Previously, only emails were allowed weekly with calls only allowed on Christmas and Mother’s Day.
Another ex-mormon here; a couple decades ago things were definitely much more strict. These days, a lot of the day-to-day rules have been loosened a little as the church knows it's hemorrhaging members, especially the younger generations. There are still *plenty* of weird and cult-y rules, but things are definitely a little more chill now than they were even when I was a kid.
Still qualifies as restricting access to loved ones.
Also visited BYU and saw caffeine everywhere. It's just coffee and tea, which confuses some people. He clearly is a little out of touch, but....
@@ashleynorth5793 indeed
Entrapment has to be the most important stat because regardless of how dogmatic and strict a group is, if you can leave it can’t truly be a cult.
@Scott Whatever false not the entire Islamic religion, only am Islamic extremist minority
Easily leave it. Fixed it for you.
That’s what I try to tell people that call Mormonism a cult
Caesar Salad while you're entirely correct, could you try proving the organizations in this video or a majority of their membership actually make an active effort to stop people from leaving? For each organization.
I "Leaved" the Jehova Witnesses by slowly ceasing my presence in the meetings (that's how we called it), but still, the personality that they force on you, the fear, manipulation, GUILT the fucking guilt, lasts long, you need to repair yourself basically alone and that takes time. A cult can be a little bad on trapping people but fuck totally their lives. and with JW in particular, if you leave, but your family is inside it, they treat you like garbage and shun you.
As someone with a very close friend who is Mormon, they can speak to their family and even friends during the mission as I communicated with him weekly during his mission. He even got a video call home during Christmas.
Carl Sagan photo in the set.... like it! It make me recall the book: "The Demon-Haunted World", which I enjoyed so much! Thanks for this video!!!!
The Amish actually do let adolescents go into society to decide. Just wanted to point that out.
Mormons also tell their members they should study all religions... sometimes it's just an illusion of choice. Although I'm not sure calling religions cults is a good thing anyways. I'm sure "modern" society could be looked at as a cult from a different perspective as well
Yep it's called Rumspringa, but 80-90% return! I did the same thing, I was shunned as a JW in my early 20s for five long years and i eventually came back for my family. Nothing ended up changing though, they still shun me 15 years later. fucking evil cult.
I live along side a very large Amish community and 4 of them were just arrested for drinking underage and driving a buggy. They very much interact with the rest of our community and do tend to have quite a bit of money.
Yeah, it's not a legit decision. Kinda like: "You can go to North Korea, but you have to wear a shirt that says 'Kim Family Sucks!' and then you can decide to stay if you want."
@@BKrandy0 Religious cults are different in that they're based on lack of evidence, and display pure malice towards dissenters. In modern society, you are welcome to dissent and even make millions writing books about it. Pretty much all good philosophy comes from people who disrupt the status quo. And all progress is based on people who dissent from the schite social conservative narrative. Perhaps you could make the argument that conservatism is a cult, but society as a whole is just too inhomogeneous.
A wild shiny 'The Amish' appears!
'The Amish' uses Anonymize!
'The Amish' disappears back into community.
*a wild 'jehovas witness' appears*
'jehovas witness' uses 'door knock'
'jehovas witness' disappears back into the distance
‘The Amish’ use... electricity???
@@Dielma yes but it is naturally generated by thousands of guinea pigs running in wheels inside large barns. Grain power.
Makes it challenging in PVP
A wild 'Jihadist' appears!
'Jihadist' uses Bomb!
It's super effective!
I enjoy most of your videos, having come from a similar background. What a road it was to leave it all behind. Fight the good fight!
Its good he says JW's are a cult because it is. Being born into it I saw it through the years and it never changes
Me and my friends accidentally ended up in a town of ultra orthodox Jews when we went camping in the Catskills. We were looking for a gas station and the only one in the whole town had no gas lol
Maybe they had no gas for YOU?
There's a joke to be made there, but I won't be the one to make it because I'm not evil
I live in the Catskills. If the Hasidim are not a cult then I don’t know what is.
They certainly meet all four criteria laid out in the beginning of the video.
Dale Gribble you do it then
"Give all people dignity and all ideas scrutiny." Words to live by. I think I'll steal that phrase from you, my friend.
Of course the leaders of these cults also deserve dignity... in jail.
I'm imagining a day in the near future when Karens are considered a cult. Think about it...
NOOO! Just stop it!
Tim lol 🤣🤣🤣 funny and possible...
I can't get over the fact that salafism is just op in every stat lol.
well, scientology would probably have been higher, if 4 chan didnt kick it in the balls hard
Clock Maker wait. How did they?
@@jesseware4682well, back then, scientology was still pretty obscure, but then the celebrities started acting all weird, and the south park episode came out.after that, the chans went into a war with scientology, where people would basically just troll them as much they can. of course mainstream media picked up on that, and the head line was basically: hacker 4chan on war with scientology, wich made the shit show even funnier.
the chans realized, that they could acctually change smth, so they all came together, and started doing irl protests.
@@jesseware4682 i think whang made a video about that acctually
I had no idea of such incident. However the way you describe it it doesn't sound like 4chan kicked their balls as much as giving them free publicity.
@@isawadelapradera6490 dude just go whatch whangs video:scientology vs the internet
I like and respect the Amish. At least they practice what they preach, arent in it for profit, dont threaten people, dont physically force members to stay, arent violent and dont prey on the vulnerable.
Pooper McScooper still a cult tho
You seem to have forgotten about the children.
@Zimmit's FunHouse Adventure They live in complete isolation, if there are child abuse or any sort of abuse at all we wont know unless said victim goes out of the cult and tell us, something almost impossible to do I think.
Almost all cults have violent abuse being hid under the carpet, perhaps the amish are the same.
And probably low suicide rate? Purely guessing, I would like to see some statistics about it though.
They are nice. They've helped us alot. Generally make good food
I have heard of your channel through Telltale,he wasn't wrong regarding you so I liked and subscribed,your Extremely knowledgeable!
GMS thank you for the very last message of your video. I think many people on the internet and around the world need to hear it. Everyone needs dignity and respect even those you disagree with.
Mormon missionaries can talk to their families on trips now, once a week in fact. (I know because I live in Utah lol)
The Church of Atom cares not for the insults of those not yet blessed by the warm glow of Atom, for we are all his children, and whether you embrace his blessings or not, you shall all receive the glory of division, but only the faithul shall be transformed in the time after, where they shall continue to spread the truth with their gifts, delivered to them by Atom himself.
PRAISE ATOM! For salvation lies with him! Each of your atoms shall be divided, in time, birthing infinite new universes! EMBRACE THE GLOW!
PRAISE ATOM!
@@clairedex May you be blessed by the glow, child!
@StonedApe WE HAVE A HEATHEN IN OUR MIDST! Quickly brothers and sisters we must show him the might of Atom! Division is upon you outsider!
@PixelLightShowJihRaddies*
Soon this sinful world will be cleansed in the holy fire of Atom. He will smite the faithless by the sign of the mushroom. For the Creator of the world is the destroyer of worlds. Atom giveth, and Atom thaketh away.
As an ex-mormon, I approve this message.
Cogent and thoughtful as usual!
Does anyone want to join my cult?
Too late, you’re already in.
#Whaddoyoumeme responded to he's last vid !
damn, alright how much do I owe our god as membershi- I mean as tithes.
Glen Drachen
We actually owe you.....
@@andrewnichols7474
Is Glen Drachen our God??? :0
ALL HAIL GLEN!
Samini the B
Do you want to be a Demi God?
Too late, you’re it.
Hard to believe in this age these people walk the earth.
They are indoctrinated. If a child is born to a cult, the only way to wake up is to do research and question their beliefs.
Agreed. And damn, I love your username.
I love how he talks about the religions like they are video game factions each with their own special abilities
Oh I’m a huge fan of Eastern cults and new religious movements as they are VERY common and interesting. Hope someday you have the chance to do some content on it
I’m glad Mormonism was recognized so high. It makes me feel better about being a Mormon apostate.
Me too Brother Woolf. Me too.
I was pulling for it to take the top spot.
Ex Mormon here too
repent heretic!!!
Atheist here, at least the Mormons don't go around and preach hate 24/7.
Unlike most cults Mormons try to improve shit with their own two hands.
Sure, the religious stuff is nuts, but there are certainly worse people on earth then typical Mormons.
This is more of a top 6 than a tier list because you're never putting more than 1 thing in the same tier, but I still love it.
I disassociated from the Jehovahs Witnesses a week ago. Found out it was a cult 6 months ago
This is the content I never knew I wanted
Why do your videos have lots of Christian ads, is this some kind of inside joke? Why isn't anyone pointing this out.. (I'm just confused)
I got it to
Channels don't control which ads appear before each video.
@@jackboike7643 but don't you think it's weird
Probably the Christian companies can choose what type of audience to target their ads to, and they choose atheists
Isn't that a good thing? There's little chance that they will attract anyone from this channel yet they waste their money here instead of targeting those adds to vulnerable people. Plus, they indirectly pay Drew
The entire Scientology training course is available from the University of Queensland for free because someone donated it to their library.
My grandmother is a Jehova’s Witness and I never thought of it as a cult, but, with what you’ve said, I guess you’re right. I’ve always been disappointed in her for it, but now I feel even worse for her than I already had.
If I may, as a Utahn, missionaries talk to their families all the time! Letters are encouraged actually, and calls are often scheduled so the whole family can participate. They can't *see* their family because missions are largely served far from home
Hobby Lobby add, I love how UA-cam has no idea what adds to put in front of these videos
Font Talk same here
When I started watching him, I had essencial oils adds
With their terrible demonetization system hitting history channels that tell and show the darker side of humans I am not surprised at all that they do not have appropriate commercials. A third grade class could probably run UA-cams ad network better.
ua-cam.com/video/KW0eUrUiyxo/v-deo.html
How UA-cam's ad system works.
Add in a lower advertising tier for demonitized content, and imagine how that could be open for exploitation. (This is also why you often get PragerU ads spammed, especially a couple years ago, on nearly a non-establishment political channels)
Yep; but demonatization bc "advertiser wouldnt want to be associated with the video".
Yeah right; what a bunch of bullshit. They then proceed to slap ads on literally EVERYTHING; but still deny 90% of people to actually earn something. UA-cam is quite literally using us as cattle. Were their fucking cashcows; by merely clicking/watching; content vreators get fucked over, and google gets da $$$$$
Nice moves
I reject the notion that the Aimish speak "german". Its more like a German-Dutch-English MixEmAllAtWill that got stuck in 1800... wich makes sense given they avoid outside-influence. But thats not german. :3
It's Platt Deutch... Low German. Not Hochdeutsch, which is spoken in most of Germany today.
@@sarahm5951 Dit is mir klar. :P
Depends where you are. My home town has Hutterite and Mennonite communities and its common to catch some of them mixing russian and german.
@@Decanta Hutterites and Mennonites are not Amish, my friend.
The Amish also believe in individual wealth...their money is not "low." They save most of their income and take pains to incur as little debt as possible. Over generations some families probably have accumulated millions in assets. I'm non-Amish Pennsylvania Dutch and really know little about them, but I know they are by no means poor. Back in the 60s, an Amish family bought my cousin's dairy farm and paid in full. I don't know what they did with the milking and storage equipment, but I doubt they had any use for it. Also, I doubt that Amish people don't have birth certificates or social security cards; they pay income and property taxes.
Some years ago in Iowa, some Amish teenagers vandalized a vacant farm house. The kids were sentenced to 30 days in jail. They got to sleep in, watch TV and play basketball. When their parents found out how soft their treatment was, they asked the Judge to send the kids home. The Judge agreed and did so. Being at home was much more punishing than jail.
I'm assuming they were punished in their homes... oh no. Just thinking of the reasoning of a parent who takes their children to a _private_ place because they weren't punished hard enough makes me worry.
_Specially_ religious parents...