Are there too many DJs?

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  • @tymantis
    @tymantis 13 днів тому +43

    I think there are too many DJs and not enough producers

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  13 днів тому +2

      @@tymantis Interesting take! You mean hybrids who do both or just not enough dedicated producers? I’d argue there’s too many producers too.

    • @tymantis
      @tymantis 13 днів тому +12

      @ I think both. There are way too many DJs who have never produced a track before but are praised like they are the ones responsible for making the music. I think too many DJs are doing it just to be cool. That's how it seems where I live. I think DJing is like taking the easy way out. Promoters care more about marketing and tickets sales than the music. I think DJing is easy and anyone can do it nowadays. DJing is what many producers do to get paid which I think is a great way to support your favorite artists.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  13 днів тому +1

      @@tymantis You’re spittin facts. I don’t think there’s a producer shortage but otherwise a banger of a comment. DJing has definitely become THE thing to do if you want to look cool or get some side cash. You’re spot on about promoters. They only care about how popular you are on IG which is why the integrity of the craft is in the sewer, it’s a popularity contest. I do think the producer requirement for DJs is lame because everyone isn’t held to that standard. Promoters only require you to be an all-in-1, hyper talented DJ/Producer when you don’t have a lot of followers. If you’re famous or lit on IG, you get a pass on DJing and making songs. To your point that DJing is easy, I think beat matching and lining up grids on screens has become easy but I don’t think most DJs skills go beyond beat matching, looping and effect knobs. I agree that all these things are true and not positive but they’re symptoms of the industry chasing short sighted “guaranteed” profits, not necessarily too many DJs. Thanks for sharing and checking out the vid.

    • @NezE-w2h
      @NezE-w2h 13 днів тому +2

      @@tymantisIt’s like that here in boston too. but like less than 5% are producers as well. You can tell really and i’m glad i’ve found more my taste on youtube recently.

    • @marcop.525
      @marcop.525 6 днів тому

      There are. Ghost 👻 ones

  • @jpswerve182
    @jpswerve182 14 днів тому +18

    The over-saturation in the DJ market is more than just a technology factor, but also the lack of solid platforms which validate the craft of being a DJ. Venues are closing down left right and centre. People don't really spend money to go out for nightlife anymore. Record shops used to be the hub for DJs and producers to connect and understand the scene and music distribution. So in-turn, everyone is just streaming in their bedroom, making mixes in their bedroom, and there is not much clear distinction between the DJ who has put in 20 plus years of grinding vs. the dude who ordered a controller and learned from tutorials in 3 months.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  14 днів тому +2

      @@jpswerve182 I agree completely! Another component I didn’t touch on is the clubs/venues that survived the pandemic counting their pennies and booking the cheapest possible options. I know several vet DJs who lost weekly gigs during covid to the owner’s nephew who “wanted to give DJing a shot” or the bartender’s friend who said they could figure it out for free. There’s a lot of moving parts that brought music, DJing and club culture where they are today. The only thing I’m shaky on is your statement there’s no distinction between 20-year DJs and 3-month DJs. I’d love to hear you expound on that because I disagree. Even the general public knows when a newer DJ is stinking up the place. I’m not gatekeeping or putting a timeframe on people’s progress but your take has my attention.

  • @wearpounamu
    @wearpounamu 8 днів тому +3

    yes

  • @Nemo71340
    @Nemo71340 12 днів тому +12

    It’s just because it’s so easy to build a library now. You used to have to really work to build solid crates. Before Shazam, live set tracklists and things like curated spotify playlists, you had to really have a good ear and be able to build your own library.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  12 днів тому

      Accessibility is definitely a component. While I agree, I don't think people put enough onus on these promoters and talent buyers. Many will overlook lack of ability if you're friends with them or have a lot of followers.

    • @Nemo71340
      @Nemo71340 12 днів тому

      @ yeah but most of these people wouldn’t even be in the DJ pool if they couldn’t google a bunch of tracks to mix. You used to be a sort of gatekeeper to music as a DJ. Mixing is only part of it. Also programs like serato give you the key, BPM and you can even auto cue it up now. Those were all things you had to figure out yourself to find tracks to mix together. You had to actually know your music. That’s how we ended up with so many unique DJs that all had their own unique style and sound. It was organic music nerds, not just people watching youtube videos and looking on reddit for songs that beat match. because they want to be the center of the clubs attention.

  • @hoodbyair0000
    @hoodbyair0000 10 днів тому +4

    in tiktok techno scene there is too much of same bullshit
    how they get gigs,, tell me someone

    • @spinnerpro8513
      @spinnerpro8513 9 днів тому +2

      It’s got a lot to do with friendship I feel. Down here in Melbourne, Aus. We have a club that have the same rotation of the most banh average DJs. It’s mind boggling tbh

  • @DjXCENTRiC
    @DjXCENTRiC 10 днів тому +1

    As much as i love new technology, which i do, very much so! Theres your answer to the massive amounts of djs today🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  9 днів тому

      @@DjXCENTRiC For sure. The tech definitely made it less daunting to get into DJing for sure.

  • @oceansouthrecords1
    @oceansouthrecords1 16 днів тому +8

    I like seeing vinyl Djs with real records and tables.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  16 днів тому +5

      @@oceansouthrecords1 Vinyl DJs are awesome but there’s nothing wrong with people using modern gear either. For me, all that matters is if you’re having fun and a baseline of integrity for the craft.

    • @vidawrld
      @vidawrld 14 днів тому +1

      @@SteezyMadeItagreed and also just having a good rotation of music & being open to trying new things

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  14 днів тому +1

      @@vidawrld Open to trying new things is huge! We should always strive to learn and grow.

    • @hoodbyair0000
      @hoodbyair0000 10 днів тому +1

      it doesn't matter, music is music.

  • @hoodbyair0000
    @hoodbyair0000 10 днів тому +1

    too many labels (read scammers) too. shit should be expose. middle man, middle finger.
    not enough artists that stick to their visions.

  • @theavguy4162
    @theavguy4162 12 днів тому +6

    I feel like DJing nowadays isn't anything people generally take seriously, at least not anymore. When I started DJing 10 years ago I did it because I thought it was really cool but it also seemed niche and required some knowledge to develop the skills required like beatmatching, scratching, track selection, and whatnot. Back then it seemed unique to have those abilities but nowadays saying that you are a DJ is almost embarrassing. People generally make negative assumptions based on the stigma that surrounds it nowadays. Most people nowadays will associate DJing with the tiktok DJs, school dance DJs, and people who are on the mic more than on the decks. Its a bit of a lost art because it is now so accessable and ultimately overrun with people who don't care about the craft and don't take it seriously. Not to mention there is a stereotype that has developed where DJs are typically egotistical and douchey. Obviously you shouldn't care what people think and you should be DJing because you love it, but this new lens that people nowadays view DJs and DJ culture with doesn't help the scene. On top of all that, getting booked for events nowadays completely depends on your relationship with your local promoters and your DJ skill ultimately comes second to that (at least thats the way it is in my local scene).
    All that is why I don't hustle to get booked anymore. I've gotten too salty about situations where Joe Shmo who has been djing for half a year is getting booked for everything because he's best friends with the promoters. It makes working your way up a losing battle unless you are good at sucking up.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  12 днів тому +3

      I agree, DJing has lost that "cool factor" and I think it's due to it becoming so common. DJing is like bike riding now, so many people do it, you're not mind blown seeing a guy riding a bike on the street. I find the concept of "Tik tok DJs" interesting. People who get controllers just to make mashup content. 50 Cent & Sabrina Carpenter mashups aren't for me but to each their own. Skill playing 2nd fiddle to connections and followers isn't a local problem unfortunately, it's a global issue in music. Frankly all the gatekeeping and industry politics can be very frustrating. I appreciate your honesty because I've been mixing since the mid 2000s and even now some promoters and buyers want me to jump through hoops for bookings while influencers and their friends hop in the fast pass line. Just have to stay the course and find spaces that appreciate you.

    • @thisismusic.online
      @thisismusic.online 10 днів тому

      ​@SteezyMadeIt I'm with you both on this... I feel the cringe when people call me out as a DJ, I'm working on a movement though... proving to people this isn't just a fad, there's skill in the blends, atmosphere creation and knowing what to play when in any situation, not just a 1 hr boiler room hype banger after banger type space.
      I've had more fun these past couple of years playing intimate gigs to genuine music heads, in pop up locations and make shift events than all of my previous years of clubs and bars where you get treated like scum of you don't play someone's favourite Rihanna track because it's their birthday!
      I'm determined not to let this fad phase ruin what I love doing, playing good music to nice people who appreciate it.

  • @hoodbyair0000
    @hoodbyair0000 10 днів тому +1

    we should expose how many of them ''asking for gigs'' or even pay to play :))))) !!!!

  • @marcop.525
    @marcop.525 6 днів тому +1

    They're too many and soulwax radio 📻😅

  • @dubmusik304
    @dubmusik304 14 днів тому +7

    In a world full of DJs, be a producer that also DJs!
    Oh wait, the producer world may be even more saturated at this point haha

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  14 днів тому +1

      @@dubmusik304 I’m sure there’s way more beat makers/producers than DJs.

    • @nicknamenotavailable
      @nicknamenotavailable 10 днів тому +3

      @@SteezyMadeIt there is a difference tho between a beatmaker (who just uses splice loops and doesn't even know what an eq does) and a producer (who can produce a song, not just a looping beat and add few 808s to it). a lot of people are always striving for something that is desirable, there are a lot of people wanting to be a doctor, a lot of them don't become one, there are a lot of people who want to be singers for example, but they don't become tayor swift, I think the same thing goes for djing, maybe the problem is, that you are basically a DJ just by saying that you are and there is not really anything that you have to prove that it actually that way. so yeah there are millions of "DJ"s, but the rea good ones/those who book shows are rare. for me, I am not even a DJ, I just like to make music, but I play it for people (DJ) to get it out there and make my own events and stuff. you could say that I'm a bad dj, but I don't think that's the point. i make the music, and I just want to play it for the people, you know.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  9 днів тому +2

      @@nicknamenotavailable You’re not wrong, there’s definitely a distinction between beat makers and music producers which is why I tacked that on. I’m not here to judge who’s good or bad, who belongs or who doesn’t. As long as you’re having fun, that’s all that should matter.

    • @nicknamenotavailable
      @nicknamenotavailable 9 днів тому +2

      @@SteezyMadeIt thats true, i don't think you are here to judge, my point is to view the actual number of DJs thru this perspective

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  9 днів тому +2

      @ I appreciate you sharing your perspective.

  • @thesoulrane
    @thesoulrane 11 днів тому +1

    There’s a plethora of DJs with all of the advancements in technology. I think it’s great that so many people are willing to learn. There’s also room for debate amongst old and new generational habits too. Regardless, it’s too cumbersome to worry about ‘how many’ DJs there are. Skills, music and time always determine the lifespan of any DJ. Good luck to everyone. Great video!😎

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  11 днів тому +1

      @@thesoulrane Thanks for watching! What do you consider generational habits?

    • @thesoulrane
      @thesoulrane 10 днів тому +1

      ​@@SteezyMadeIt Mixing live (knowing your music library / reading the crowd) versus pre recorded sets. OR, 'using turntables / battle style mixer VS CDJs VS controller'. Learn it all in my opinion! Habits depend on application of skills / what's needed for the gig. Despite bias (preferred habit) of either generation, there's always room for expansion on both sides of the argument. Funny how it seems to boil down to real VS fake for most. I'm just happy people have access to the art form.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  10 днів тому +1

      @@thesoulrane Oh for sure! Personally I don’t get into the weeds about “real DJing”. I’m not triggered by what people use or don’t use. Some are and that’s their business. People can do what they want but it’s not up for debate that DJing reached astronomical popularity.

  • @ericjordan4285
    @ericjordan4285 11 днів тому +2

    Hot take: Producers are not DJs!
    DJs are selectors that play music and break new records ...
    An Artist showcases their music...in this case, producers
    As someone who's been in the nightlife industry for 10+ years, this correlation that they are one and the same is incorrect, if you ask a producer what the job and essence of a DJ are, they'll give you some far-off answers.....the job of a Dj especially in a nightclub is to circulate the dance floor, to drive business to the bar and back to the dance floor, the essence of a DJ is to introduce you to music you don't know you like yet, Djs are the tastemakers, Djs, specifically disco Djs would curate what got played in clubs all over the city if you were an artist at that time, they decided whether or not your record was hot before it hit radio if it ever did at all, although this has changed over time saying you're a Dj and you don't work as one would be an incorrect statement, say you're an artist you produce music, the use of equipment is another argument or discussion

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  11 днів тому +2

      @@ericjordan4285 That’s a hot take that shouldn’t be a hot take. DJing and producing are 2 separate skills the industry muddled together. I don’t look at people who just DJ or just produce as lesser than but it’s a blaring stigma these days.

  • @andrescabrera9934
    @andrescabrera9934 10 днів тому +1

    Yes, but only so many who are actually about it/the culture. Great vid subbed 👍

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  10 днів тому

      @@andrescabrera9934 Thanks for watching and the sub!

  • @SkillShaperSS
    @SkillShaperSS 12 днів тому +2

    You have already too many record labels

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  12 днів тому +1

      @@SkillShaperSS Not for long if UMG and Spotify keep buying everything.

  • @nawsh2252
    @nawsh2252 16 днів тому +5

    There are definitely too many DJs. The female DJ conversation is kind of funny too but like you said, another topic.
    The problem in both cases is that the bar to be a semi-pro DJ is pretty damn low. I started my musical journey on guitar. Now I'm more focused on live instrumentation. I'll always be a DJ, but being in that scene feels like that crabs in the bucket analogy or whatever. All the DJs clamoring on top of each other in hopes they get to be the one that make it somewhere.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  15 днів тому +1

      @@nawsh2252 You’re not wrong, spot on actually. I’d argue DJing has become both easier and harder. Yes, the skill requirement is nonexistent but you can only override skill if you have connections and/or a heap of followers which is why I say it’s harder for some than others. Not everybody is the booking guy’s roommate or a celeb verified on IG. It’s pretty circumstantial and your experience varies.

    • @nawsh2252
      @nawsh2252 15 днів тому +1

      @ I guess it comes down to asking yourself why you do it. I make music to bring people joy. So I just try to do whatever I can to maximize how many people I can do that for. ✊🏼

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  15 днів тому

      @@nawsh2252 I respect it!

  • @jamiesonree2769
    @jamiesonree2769 11 днів тому +1

    good video... so many thoughts :/

  • @bakoguy5330
    @bakoguy5330 16 днів тому +6

    Need more plumbers lol that sh** was funny!

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  16 днів тому

      @@bakoguy5330 I’ve seen people tweet that more than I can count lol.

    • @bakoguy5330
      @bakoguy5330 16 днів тому +1

      @ idk, I don’t have social media.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  15 днів тому

      @ My faith in humanity is restored. Never change.

  • @chicano_travels
    @chicano_travels 11 днів тому +2

    That’s why you go oversees

  • @marchianoloen1568
    @marchianoloen1568 9 днів тому +2

    Serious question: nobody ever asks "are there too many artists?" or "are there too many parties and promoters?"
    Why is DJing such a competitive space but with this toxic "fomo" layer (not saying you Steezy are toxic!)?
    Why -like artists- can't it be about finding ways to differentiate yourself as a DJ in your song selection, use of effects, mixing of genres, how you pay attention and react to crowd, your branding, your style etc?
    I get that there's friends/preferential treatment and that almost anyone can buy a controller and play songs - but a great DJ from the average DJ is a very, very different thing.
    I like your content, subscribed.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  9 днів тому

      @@marchianoloen1568 I agree and didn’t take your comment as an attack. The best way to stand out isn’t to compete or bash the next person, just put in work and be yourself!

  • @tracklistwarrior
    @tracklistwarrior 12 днів тому +1

    The solution is to do more than just DJ and set yourself apart - make it a live set or give it a performance element!

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  12 днів тому

      @@tracklistwarrior Yes! Music has definitely become a byob type of thing for the majority.

  • @Prodeezy
    @Prodeezy 14 днів тому +3

    Good video my g

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  14 днів тому

      @@Prodeezy Thanks for checking it out!

  • @fernandocantor8143
    @fernandocantor8143 11 днів тому +3

    what is a dj to you guys lol everyone can be a dj but how many selectassss

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  11 днів тому +1

      @fernandocantor8143 To be honest I think 100 people will give 100 different answers.

  • @sounddedaniel8760
    @sounddedaniel8760 12 днів тому +1

    Interesting content

  • @shamallama8663
    @shamallama8663 12 днів тому +2

    Producing is kinda nerdy. I think women are more into social hobbies.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  12 днів тому +1

      @@shamallama8663 Oddly enough I saw a meme that said “music producers are just software nerds” and I can’t unsee it lol.

  • @NezE-w2h
    @NezE-w2h 13 днів тому +1

    ii was watching back and i think your bar stat is off. you think of nyc most of the events r happening in a pizza / cafe / warehouse. in boston it’s similar to that, book wherever you can sort of deal. If you’re considering bedroom djs and rich kids who just happen to have this piece of gear, you can be certain that they probably won’t be playing bars exclusively. idk just a ramble/thought. i enjoyed the video 👌🏾

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  13 днів тому +1

      @@NezE-w2h Thanks for watching but the stat is not off. The info used is from IBIS, a company that gathers stats for various industries using government data, public polls and bank records. By “bars” I’m talking about all legal businesses nationwide registered to sell alcohol where people dine/drink/go for entertainment. Those are historically the spaces where DJs play including: concert venues, mini golf courses, festivals and sports arenas on top of the places I listed in the video. Not exclusively divey “bars”, spaces deemed commonplace for DJs to perform. This is why I said “conventional places to play anyways” and included a photo of a guy DJing in the woods to acknowledge abstract exceptions. As stated major cities will have more options. I understand DJing is expanding outside of bars/clubs into cafes and pizza spots like you mentioned but that’s unequivocally due to over-saturation and what most consider unconventional spaces. I know DJs who’ve played on food trucks and at car dealerships but I don’t think there’s a DJ breathing whose life long dream is to play at a car dealership respectfully.

  • @ItsWesSmithYo
    @ItsWesSmithYo 12 днів тому

    There can never be to many. If you love djing, producing, etc…just do it, if your about the money, different problem. Enjoy the ride.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  12 днів тому

      @@ItsWesSmithYo Sure, that’s the diplomatic take I think everyone will agree with but the intent of this video is to highlight stats on the DJ population and there’s quite literally more DJs than venues for all of them to perform/earn an income. If you’re a happy go lucky DJ who wants to mix in private by all means. It doesn’t bother me one way or another.

  • @botz77
    @botz77 16 днів тому +3

    Not good ones.

    • @SteezyMadeIt
      @SteezyMadeIt  16 днів тому

      @@botz77 I agree. I don’t think new DJs practice or build their skills up enough before they start booking gigs.

  • @daniellee9763
    @daniellee9763 15 днів тому +1

    YES