Should you buy a cheap Ducati? Part 1
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Should you buy a cheap Ducati? Logic says probably not, but when was buying a motorbike a logical decision?
In this series Dave Hewson buys a Ducati 748 for less than £3000. But was it a good buy or will it turn out to be a lemon.
Watch Dave as he strips and rebuilds the bike and finds out exactly what's good and what's not
I bought a 02 Ducati Monster 620 with 12k miles. Picked it up for 950$. My goal was keep it under 1000$ in repairs. 2 months and LOTS of research later I got her running for under $260. She likes to misfire on the horizontal cylinder, but it is still rideable. Just took her for 100 mile ride yesterday to really test her out and it runs good enough
The only thing more expensive than a new Ducati
Is a used Ducati
Can you expound? I had several used ducatis and it was never more expensive than a new one.
You're not wrong.
@bernardbernabe773 I guess you didn't buy a Paul Smart 1000 used then.
Nice bike. I bought a 01 996 in 2016. 748 frame with 996 built by a well known Ducati race bike builder. When I purchased it she had 4k on engine and 6k on frame. Paid 5800. After commuting for 35000 she let go (bearing) I had it completely gone through. All maintenance and rebuild by a professional local shop. In total from purchase to now I have close to 20k wrapped in her. People always ask if I'll sell her, no because I would want too much.
They are made to be enjoyed and it sounds like you've thoroughly enjoyed it, top work!
My Ducati and Aprilia are in the garage well polished! Great content and learning a lot . Thanks
Had a second hand 900SL slabby years ago, wonderful thing, started on the button as long as the batter y was fully charged, only had to think about cornering and it had done it, only grief I can recall was bleeding the clutch slave cylinder but a zip tie round the lever overnight sorted that one out. Thoroughly enjoyed it for a couple of years and sold it for more than I paid for it, winner winner chicken dinner
I would so love a 916... The problem is they're so desirable that they tend to hold their price quite well. The RSV1000/Mille is also a good value alternative if you're on a budget, they're pretty cheap now because they were never really iconic. Doesn't look as nice though :(
Love the yellow. I so need that bike in my life once you've tinkered with it lol
Keep the updates coming
Nice video , just need to rotate your phone to horizontal Dave so that the output matches a TV screen.
I've tossed around the idea of getting a cheap 748 for years. I think I would just park it next to the TV, and let it live there. Beautiful bike man.
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"Stevie Wonder's finest work" 😂🤣☠💀
Awesome bike man!
Looking forward to seeing what gems you uncover whilst pulling it apart , I found that rubber whilst clearing my garage 🙄 sorry about rear wheel I was trying to get a match to wheel but forgot to clean off wrong paint🤪
Good content but your camera skills are horrific!
Keep your phone sideways!
I’ve been down this road. I have 3 Ducati’s. In 2016 I bought a “cheap” 2001 ST2. $12,000 later, I have a beautiful sport touring bike that people often mistake for brand new. I did all of my own work except for paint. And the bike is now worth maybe $3500! But I enjoy working on it. It becomes an obsession.
Sometimes it's nice to create something that is yours, top work sir
Yes working on bike becomes obsession. I am currently going through the obsession myself with 2004 Moto Guzzi 750. It’s hard to stop working on it.
Really interesting video as I'm seriously thinking of buying a 'cheap' 748. I'm not too worried about aesthetics and as my day job is running my workshop making parts for classic British bikes I'm a reasonable mechanic and engineer. Looking forward to watching part 2.
Horizontal videos mate...horizontal !
In 1974 I bought a cheap Ducati: a 1968 250 Desmo.. for (about 80 Euros). Borani rims, full race body, no speedometer, just a RPM, no airfilter... gear shift on the right side (!!!), brake on the left (!!!)
Cheap and ducati dont go in the same sentence
No, buy a 1098 or 848 and above. Much better
That is a beautiful bike mate. Regardless of miles and condition. You will have it looking right soon enough. Great price. Congratulations.
I always wanted a ducati until I sat on one. LOL
Actually they likely have the rear wheel eccentric upside down. it needs to be flipped and should be in the lower 1/2 of its travel NOT the top. If left in the top the rear wheel will hit the pipes, chain will wear the lower swingarm near the pivot. Ride height rod should NOT be adjusted for a fix to a bigger issue.
Putting the rear hub in the upper half of the swingarm is the go-to fix for midgets. Full size people should always have the hub in the bottom half.
Looking forward to the next installment
I’ve often wondered why Ducati made the 996 and 998 at the same time why did they make two bikes so similar?
998 replaced the 996, but there was probably old stock 996's in the dealer system
@@obsession_engineering
Cheers for the reply 👍
Yes I did some more research the 996r came out at the end of 2001 and the 998r came out 12 months later.
If you can do the work yourself, or want to learn, and if it's working, then sure. The next time i buy one, it'll be with this in mind.
People that say "there's no such thing as a cheap *insert manufacturer here*" picked the wrong job as a career. Bikes a so simple and cheap to maintain I'd almost swear half these comments are from people on an acid trip
18 months ago I paid ~$3,600 US for a 2005 Monster 620ie Dark 2-Disc with just over 10,000 miles on it. It hadn't been ridden much by the prior owner so it was due for belts and valve check. Got that check done at the end of that winter, put new tires on her, replaced the front rim (because I didn't like something I saw on it), all told my investment was just under $5,000 US. I would do it again in a heart beat! I love this thing, but am kicking around the idea of getting my hands on a newer vintage Multistrada now.
Yeah, I've been a Ducati fan since I was a kid back in 1995 when I first saw a 916.
Bargain find! This video is so typical of gearheads. We really know our onions when it comes to cogs but don't know a thing about shooting video. I'm just now fighting a bargain "action camera" with cryptic instructions so I can shoot a driving video. Dave, rotate the bloody phone 90 degrees!!! Then show us how to reshim those valves...
I just watched this series and found it extremely educational. I own a Ducati 996 sps foggy special. I have a complete workshop manual but I’m afraid to touch the valve settings and timing due to aweful stories of failed attempts. But you’ve inspired at last. Thank you
Excellent! Want to see more, hit the sub button. 👍🏻🤠🇸🇪
"Stevie Wonder's finest work."
Hahaha!
There is no such thing as a used cheap ducati
I had a 748, valve adjustments were a pain in the ass, sounded great, rode great, but maintenance was a pain.
It ended up dropping a valve, so it got an 853 kit, then about 2k miles later I sold it because I was tired of the maintenance.
Wat do you expect a new bike whit 40.000 miles 😂
Without viewing the videos, as a former owner, the answer is yes, with caveats:-
You are buying it with your heart & soul
You can afford the running costs - if you can maintain it yourself, it is easier, if you can pay someone, buy it.
Get the right colour! Red and the ultra rare silver & green versions are the best lookers!
Put proper exhausts on it, with the chip for the fuel injection and high flow air filter.
I'm off to watch now! You'll probably read from me next week!
Do yourself a favour and get the original tail light rubber bump from Ducati. They are only a few pounds.
Job #1 would be to get a scaffold tube and wanker the paddock stand straight.
No Ducati should be yellow. PASS!
Italian machinery should ONLY be red.
I thought that was understood.
HEAVYWALL 70 exactly, you’d think that was a given.
If you know what you are doing then the answer is yes. But remember, there is no such thing as a cheap Ducati 😁
The answer is that there's no such thing as a cheap Ducati. Expect to replace every part short of the frame every 5k miles. Expect shops to turn you away because they don't work on Italian bikes. Expect the shops that will take it to charge extra for hunting down mysterious electrical issues that could only be caused by the bike being haunted. If you want to save money just buy a speedboat.
So, not a fan? 🤣
Yes, buy it
lets hear the engine!
I’m wrestling with the should I buy a cheap Ducati question
The title should be: should you buy a cheap Ducati of eBay pictures?
Correct on the taillight spacer. It is just a split wedge style that slips over the edge of the light assembly.
It's not easy to kill a ducati I tried mine it had 130 thou kms but no sign of wear. As a matter of fact with this many kms you won't need valve adjustments as the bedding perfect. The belts are cheap and easy to replace every 20000 kms and put shell advance oil in. Very cheap to run. The only downside is that it wears the back tyre quickly caused by the extreme torque.
Good work getting that mileage in, I like your style!
very overlooked fun wee bike , Ive owned a few and really like them , best of luck with the sorting out .
Looking forward to seeing this duke put back to its former glory 👍👍
OMG Wavey you cursed me! I’m rewatching the series for a second time, because I just BOUGHT A CHEAP 748! 🤦♂️
My work here is done 🤣
@@obsession_engineering Glad you are taking some of the blame - cos I'm gonna be emailing you soon asking for help with many, many, things 🤣
Its worth it to pay more and getca good one
Great video Dave - informative and light hearted !
This video would be much better if you'd filmed it in landscape.
Don't worry, later ones are. It was a learning curve for sure
@@obsession_engineering I'm catching up on the later ones - enjoying the series. I'm working on an SP2 at the moment so your videos are a big help.
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less than 3k. dam my moped cost the same
This is great,, hi from Melbourne
I have an original 748 chain gaurd with steel plate that came off my vertually brand new bike in 1997, drop me a message if you are interested. Good luck with the bike, I had mine for twenlve years and loved it.
If you’re not comfortable working on it yourself
A used 2 valve air cooled ducati is the only one i would recommend.
Buy a cheap Ducati. Not a cheap Benelli.
Oh now there's a potentially disastrous series, lol
I was watching that bike
Hoping to pick this bike up 1500 miles in 2 weeks
No such thing as a cheap Ducati, I've owned 4 of them
Maybe it should have been 'Cheap, for a Ducati' lol
@@obsession_engineering ha I had a "98" 748 biposto for my 1st Ducati its was a brilliant bike
Have you ever thought of recording in horizontal?
No because if ur looking for somthing cheap a ducati breaks down way more often then your average yamaha
as you say 'average' yamaha, the thing I like about ducati's is they aren't average :)
Long story short is, a cheap one is cheap for a reason- I found that out the hard way 😩
Mine looked reasonable at first (rose tinted glasses) and despite the service history file I found it had a misfire so a trip to the mechanic found all the opening rockers had de-chromed. They are £100+vat each new but I found a company who re faced the original ones for £40+ vat each.
By time I’m done with everything I probably could have bought a low mileage 748R for less!!
Buy cheap buy twice!
Yeah, the rocker arm issue was quite common, luckily there's less of the early chrome plated arms around now so the risk was a little lower
You would think I would know of the de chroming issue given I owned a 996 for 13 years! Oh well- at least I know the engine is all good now & I can enjoy it
How does it ride
Mega, i love that old ZXR
Should I ?. No.
Damn Dave, I thought my garage was small....
What a joke
There is no such thing as a cheap Ducati,new ones have a massive purchase price and they are a P.O.S..Ducati make beautiful bikes but only when placed under designer lighting and draped with models crammed full of modern materials like silicon and titanium mesh.Second hand Ducatis enter the market because the owner can no longer keep them running and eat on a regular basis.Buy the Ducati that gives you a stiffy and remove all the ignition components and put it in pride of place in your home.Removing the ignition is overkill as it is highly unlikely it will start anyway.Sit back enjoy lie to women or men and become a Ducati owner and lie about rider
Familiar story... I bought my 2000 900SS with a ridiculous bid on ebay in the USA. Also, it was close enough for me to pick up. I could have upgraded my 2003 Aprillia RSV to a ten year newer V4 for what I've spent on the Red Duck trying to get it back in shape. Ducati parts air either made of silver plated gold, or Pure Unobtanium. Still need a new lower fairing (found a fiberglass repro in GB for about $400 USD, but then still need to get it here) mine was held together with hot glue. And then I need fork lowers for the Showas, mine have some puzzling gouges that a wet stone didn't quite reduce, and chew through seals... Right now need belts and valve adjust. just wait until you try to get to the vertical cylinder head... Chasing an intermittent engine miss, clutch sounds like a can of rocks, riding position absolutely sucks. Have exceeded the purchase price with brakes, rear shock, battery, instrument cluster, chain and sprockets, wheel bearings, and rear suspension bushings. It is pretty to look at though.
Sounds like you've got a proper ducati there, lol.
Well done for helping the Italian economy
No, no you should not. Get a cheap Honda instead.
No.
Defentley not
NO.
You shouldn't buy one at all to begin with. Poor quality + reliability and insane prices.
Horrible money pit
Lovely... Money pit 🤣
Stevie Wonder's finest work!