Is this how Protoss Late Game SHOULD BE Played? (StarCraft 2)

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • Best-of-3 series of high level StarCraft 2 between Stats (Protoss) and SHIN (Zerg). This match is from the StarCraft 2 GSL Code S season 1 of 2024, round-of-8.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 103

  • @Onitsutube
    @Onitsutube 5 місяців тому +47

    well, Ghost River is also a Nightwish song :o) it's on the album Imaginaerum from 2011 ;o)

  • @ScenegraphStudios
    @ScenegraphStudios 5 місяців тому +18

    the scream at 23:05 hahaha ... so delicate! Thanks for the years of content dude!

  • @bhilly812
    @bhilly812 5 місяців тому +82

    A change we need if we want more mama ships: Just make the mothership immune to the Viper abduct ability. Don't need to change anything else about it and we would start seeing WAY more of them. There is also prescedent for the idea that "unit size matters", in that ultra's are immune to stasis wards. COME ON BALANCE COUNCIL DO THE RIGHT THING.

    • @richardweerts7310
      @richardweerts7310 5 місяців тому +21

      Spells in general seem too good on massive units, with snipe destroying ultras as another example

    • @chemonized
      @chemonized 5 місяців тому +9

      i remember back in the day when you couldn't yank massive units, it was a lot better back then

    • @LowkoTV
      @LowkoTV  5 місяців тому +15

      I see this suggested frequently but I think that would be too much. You can already not Neural it anymore as it is. I don't think the Mothership needs another buff, especially not one as big as that.

    • @rhyguy6260
      @rhyguy6260 5 місяців тому +27

      @@LowkoTVsomeone is a Zerg main :D

    • @yamspaine
      @yamspaine 5 місяців тому +11

      it would be possible to make the yank of large units be smaller. yes, yank the mothership,, but yank half the distance. That could be a good compromise.

  • @celestrius9197
    @celestrius9197 5 місяців тому +9

    23:30 yooo lowko?? Is that a hub joke??? 😂

    • @zaidsider6509
      @zaidsider6509 5 місяців тому +1

      I was looking for a comment about it😂

  • @waltermatthewberg
    @waltermatthewberg 5 місяців тому +21

    Nuke toilet was my favorite 2v2 strat with my terran buddy. The nuke spell was the same cast time as the vortex. 10% of the time I jizzed my pants 100% of the time.

  • @tomas.stesti
    @tomas.stesti 5 місяців тому +10

    Am I hearing the LAUNDRY MACHINE in the background Lowko?! 😀

  • @HyperLuigi37
    @HyperLuigi37 5 місяців тому +10

    So I last played StarCraft when 2 came out originally (and I played the first DLC), and also played the original in the 2000s. I’d been hearing so much about StarCraft competitive that I decided to start watching it and see what it looks like, and I think the fact that this game is still getting balance patches in 2024 is the biggest surprise to me. I thought this thing was a cult classic like Melee that needs no updates, but in reality it’s balancing and thriving. That’s pretty crazy. One of these days I need to go back in and play the second DLC - I always thought Protoss was cool, so I meant to check it out, but I never got around to it. All this competitive analysis and advice will probably come in handy for the story lmao.

    • @ehk5948
      @ehk5948 5 місяців тому

      The single player mode is still under the OG balance. So some units are different

    • @HyperLuigi37
      @HyperLuigi37 5 місяців тому

      @@ehk5948 That makes sense, but still, some of these strategy concepts are universal.

    • @gecko33yusuf60
      @gecko33yusuf60 5 місяців тому +2

      age of empires 2 still gets updates and is older

    • @HyperLuigi37
      @HyperLuigi37 5 місяців тому

      @@gecko33yusuf60 Damn, that is crazy lmao

  • @DagwoodDogwoggle
    @DagwoodDogwoggle 5 місяців тому +3

    "You have a couple of preset games" confused me for a moment. I thought LowKow said, "You have a couple of PRIESTS AT games." I was wondering what the clergy had to do w all this.

  • @Mikivericks
    @Mikivericks 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video, Lowko. The defense of the Protoss seems to be the common trend in this series. Really helped them keep stable.

  • @Heavenlyrules
    @Heavenlyrules 5 місяців тому +3

    Happy Eid Mubarak ❤ [Utrecht]

  • @thomasgraf7420
    @thomasgraf7420 5 місяців тому +2

    Ghost River makes me also think about Subnautica.. the Style refers heavily to the ghost River biom

  • @shanemapplebeck8560
    @shanemapplebeck8560 5 місяців тому

    Your comedy makes me quite happy, nightly enjoyer mate. From Massachusetts

  • @orangepearlf40
    @orangepearlf40 5 місяців тому

    Good old-fashioned sc1 tactics. Have stargates ready, trade, transition to air.

  • @jadekaiser7840
    @jadekaiser7840 5 місяців тому

    Just by looking at the thumbnail I can already see that somebody is taking wonderful melted mozzarella cues from our boy UThermal. This is gonna be fun!

    • @jadekaiser7840
      @jadekaiser7840 5 місяців тому

      Having finished, I am a bit disappointed not to have seen mama's dinner bell into the enemy base. But it was a good series anyways.

  • @mariokuppers5686
    @mariokuppers5686 5 місяців тому +2

    Winters Gate is an Album from Insomnium. So the everything is Nightwish Thesis is Destroyed 😆

  • @odin12
    @odin12 5 місяців тому +5

    Always nice to get home from work and be greeted by a new Lowko video ❤

  • @hyds816
    @hyds816 5 місяців тому

    This mating dance joke was a good one, Lowko. It's good to see your videos again. Had really no time for that due this bloody war in Ukraine. Hello from Ukrainian Kharkiv:)

  • @admiralmurphy1543
    @admiralmurphy1543 5 місяців тому

    I like that the mothership has become this really potent means of making both mid game and late game comps much more powerful.

  • @lvo9197
    @lvo9197 5 місяців тому +1

    Stats crisis management is insane!! It s great to see there other ways to play protoss than the super early gateway pressure into mid gamee win, Hero and Maxpax go for.

  • @ryanwsu4
    @ryanwsu4 5 місяців тому

    Anyone else feel like as the years go by Lowko is just like “… Screw it, let’s see what happens if I say *this*” ????

  • @gh3trenty4
    @gh3trenty4 5 місяців тому

    I miss the Archon toilet, Lowko

  • @AlinNightwing
    @AlinNightwing 5 місяців тому +7

    SHIN playing Zerg... if they burrow is that a SHIN-dig?..... I'll see myself out

  • @Ghost-Raccoon
    @Ghost-Raccoon 5 місяців тому +4

    16:35 And we still don't know what you can actually write home about.

  • @scottc9151
    @scottc9151 5 місяців тому

    The thumbnail kind of reminds me of the sc2 alpha where they showed off the planet cracker ability on the mothership

  • @hiddentruth1982
    @hiddentruth1982 5 місяців тому +1

    he's getting his stats up after service

  • @jackMeought-fr8vl
    @jackMeought-fr8vl 5 місяців тому

    Lowko you're so funny I'm gonna hit the like button. I have also heard rumors about ladies getting stuck in purpose

  • @sillyman2955
    @sillyman2955 5 місяців тому

    Man someones been on a spree casting and win!

  • @therealfakecaptain7978
    @therealfakecaptain7978 5 місяців тому

    28:33 Both players at 69 workers... NICE !

  • @CountPenta
    @CountPenta 5 місяців тому +1

    Ahhh I remember the archon toilet.

  • @Zenkujo
    @Zenkujo 5 місяців тому

    Ah... Archon Toilets... **wipes away a nostalgic tear**

  • @blubbblubb1253
    @blubbblubb1253 5 місяців тому

    have anyone seen the short about the Zeolot charge trick? You attack a unit ahead of the original attack and start the charge phase. Now they can charge the whole way instead of activating half way :D are the pros doing this or have i missed it ? xD

  • @remeokits
    @remeokits 5 місяців тому

    Do people ever try to kill overlords like just have a hit squad. To supple block a zerg when they think they can swarm?

  • @Sommerk91
    @Sommerk91 5 місяців тому +5

    Another Protoss win, so satisfying now I will sleep very well 💤🫡

  • @yordanpopov7691
    @yordanpopov7691 5 місяців тому

    I think you sing pretty well, actually!

  • @j1u4hoctb
    @j1u4hoctb 5 місяців тому

    We don't see speed boosters regions lately too!

  • @Prymul
    @Prymul 5 місяців тому +1

    Step-Lowko, what are you doing?

  • @Ali-uf8fc
    @Ali-uf8fc 5 місяців тому +2

    In a Protoss vs Zerg I'm still shocked that Terran wins.....

  • @bb-ce7qf
    @bb-ce7qf 5 місяців тому +2

    Oracles: help step-lowko I'm stuck in the top right corner .

  • @arvinjancruz5175
    @arvinjancruz5175 3 місяці тому

    great game!

  • @ChaosGodII
    @ChaosGodII 5 місяців тому

    What if you can chronoboost the mothership to speed up the ability CDs?

  • @cyberkekosis
    @cyberkekosis 5 місяців тому

    during this whole ravagers vs stalkers 5-minute clash in the second game i was scratching my head intensively because Shin had an Infestation Pit so he could fungal all these annoying stalkers and have an easy win

  • @gecko33yusuf60
    @gecko33yusuf60 5 місяців тому

    nice series

  • @CriticalRealms
    @CriticalRealms 5 місяців тому

    Loko I missed 2 days of casting because I flew into Japan. Sorry 😢

  • @anthonyp3452
    @anthonyp3452 5 місяців тому +134

    Spoiler Shield! Like this comment to ensure others aren’t spoiled by the top comment!

    • @maddog2314
      @maddog2314 5 місяців тому +1

      Rooting for Terran!

    • @fari1964
      @fari1964 5 місяців тому

      Not the best choice of words when Stats is playing
      I first assumed it was a spoiler

    • @deafdanny6299
      @deafdanny6299 5 місяців тому +6

      Ima start doing "spoiler shield-shield. Like this comment to stop the spoiler shield from getting likes"

    • @anthonyp3452
      @anthonyp3452 5 місяців тому +1

      @@deafdanny6299In the end the comments are spoiler shielded

  • @khvicha.peikrishvili1937
    @khvicha.peikrishvili1937 5 місяців тому

    Have seen that video too, when a girl stucks in the washing machine...

  • @JHtx991
    @JHtx991 5 місяців тому

    i only watch terran matches unless it’s stats. idk why but the comeback story is nice

  • @ryanfahey1281
    @ryanfahey1281 5 місяців тому +1

    Smashing F5 to start my day until Lowko pops up.

  • @markfrank3307
    @markfrank3307 5 місяців тому

    OF CORUSE STATS WIN!!!

  • @prens7380
    @prens7380 5 місяців тому

    Like this comment if you want Lowko to share the video where the lady got stuck! 😂

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 5 місяців тому

    Nun udder den

  • @chrisdaignault9845
    @chrisdaignault9845 5 місяців тому

    It always bothers me that ravagers can’t attack air (yes, bile, fine).

  • @TheCrywolf791
    @TheCrywolf791 5 місяців тому

    😮

  • @shaunkiyabu2707
    @shaunkiyabu2707 5 місяців тому

    The amount of harass that protoss can throw out but zerg can’t do the same shows how bad the early game balance is. Chrono boost works immediately but queen inject has a delay before larva pop out.…sounds fair…

  • @Big5ocks
    @Big5ocks 5 місяців тому +2

    I think Shin's reasons for changing his name is really cute/sweet, but it confuses the hell out of me because Olivera changed his name about the same... Time.

  • @tatotato85
    @tatotato85 5 місяців тому

    mothershipbeing not worth its a old idea that's mostly dead

  • @Milan_Rosko
    @Milan_Rosko 5 місяців тому

    worst performance in gsl, platinum league stuff

  • @JavierMartinez-oe3qk
    @JavierMartinez-oe3qk 5 місяців тому

    😶‍🌫️

  • @skychaos87
    @skychaos87 5 місяців тому +1

    7:30 That's why Zerg is broken, it just need to build 1 tech structure and can mass produce any tech units instantly. Zerg is the race with the best reactionary play because of that, you scout something, you can counter it instantly with 1 building and mass produce with banked up larvae. At late game you can instantly remax with a counter unit because you already have that "one" tech structure and mass hatchery. Other race like Terran and Protoss need to build multiple production structures to produce units, and still can't built them as fast as Zerg does with the same amount of hatchery vs a single type of tech structure. Not to mention Zerg is also the race with the best economy for its able to build workers the fastest, 3 workers at a time from a single hatchery or more with larvae inject and is able to bank up larvae. Its play style is just so self complementary and versatile, while other race have to commit to a specific build order or tech and play really well before they can transit to other tech.

    • @rogue-ish5713
      @rogue-ish5713 5 місяців тому +3

      Bro, Play as zerg. Go ahead. do it. Zerg has to tech up to lair and Hive to get to those buildings. Where as Protoss and Terran can just tech up by building a certain building. Building 1 barracks, 1 factory and 1 starport leads you to late tech in 6 min mark. Stop it

    • @hivetech4903
      @hivetech4903 5 місяців тому +1

      Spoken like a true Plat league scrub. You don't understand the absolute basics of this game.

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 5 місяців тому

      @@rogue-ish5713 I'm talking about reactional counter play not teching speed. Zerg can switch tech easily and mass produce those tech units far easier than other race. Nothing you said conflicts my point. In terms of teching up speed, yes and no. Zerg may need more upgrades/buildings to get to higher tech but they still produce higher tech units faster than any other race can.
      This is why you see protoss reach fleet beacon tech faster but all Zerg had to do is plant down a spire and they build corrupters in higher supply than protoss can build carriers or terrans can build BCs.
      Btw Zerg is not much slower than other race in reaching higher tech. Terran can reaching BC from barracks>factory>starport>fusion core. Protoss can reach carriers from gateway>cyber core>Stargate>fleet beacon. Zerg can reach broodlords from spawning pool>lair>infestation pit & spire>hive>greater spire. Zerg is only 1 step behind when it comes to reaching late game air. However, it only needs spire for corruptors that counter every late game air from protoss and Terran.
      Zerg never had problems reaching tech parity with other race. Especially when they are always ahead in economy because of the larvae mechanic. Even if they are late in scouting it doesn't matter, they can just drop a single structure and mass produce counters in time. If protoss or Terran scouts late they are forced to deal with mass mutas or lose bases to lurkers if there's no ghost or disruptors to counter them.
      Almost never you see Zerg gets surprised or overwhelmed by high tech units because even if protoss and Terran would tech faster they can never produce fast enough for the high tech units to be overwhelming. It's usually just 1 or 2 BCs or disruptors, they don't do game ending damage. But because Zerg has larvae mechanics, failure to scout Zerg tech means a sudden swarm of mass mutas, lurkers or swarm hosts that can end the game instantly.

    • @xv9021
      @xv9021 5 місяців тому

      @@skychaos87 If remaxing was so easy and overwhelming we would see pro's doing it all the time. I cant even remember the last time i saw mass hatch in the main + a quick remax from a tech switch.

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 5 місяців тому

      @@xv9021 Why would you think about mass hatch in the main?? It's so weird you guys come up with unconventional scenarios as examples.
      Remaxing happens all the time in tournaments, especially in mid to late game. It's possible when you reach around 3-4 hatch. In mid games Zerg remax with lings and roaches, in late game they remax with anything they want with banked up larvae and resources.

  • @Niggle_me_this
    @Niggle_me_this 5 місяців тому

    After watching maxpax and Clem, these games felt viewer submitted

  • @Niggle_me_this
    @Niggle_me_this 5 місяців тому

    Ragnarok mehhhh
    GOO stats!

  • @Jimmyni-kk4em
    @Jimmyni-kk4em 5 місяців тому

    Y is baneling cost inefficient

    • @LowkoTV
      @LowkoTV  5 місяців тому +1

      It's expensive and is usually only good with a strong economy behind it

    • @Jimmyni-kk4em
      @Jimmyni-kk4em 5 місяців тому

      @@LowkoTV it's only 75/25 total cost. And cheaper and widows so how is it expensive