Is your Youtube Channel a disaster?
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Episode 94 - Feel like your channel is a failure? You may be doing better than you think. Kind of a quick video, but seeing some friends discouraged over the last few weeks, I felt it was important to put out.
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That Top Hat video I was talking about:
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Some of those streaming channels I showed.
Raya
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The Geek Getaway
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Saggy Melonz
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A link to a song in the video
Cherry Blossom - By: Fluff Fluff
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Ninth! (I could've paid to be first, but I don't believe in taking shortcuts like that)
I remember towards their end Machinima had over 17 Million subscribers, yet they were lucky to get 200 views a video sometimes.
Mainlly as they just bombarded people with new videos each day and no one could ever keep up.
That's probably the worst views/subs I've ever seen with a channel, it wasn't even 0.1% of their audience watching.
Wild! That would be an interesting video topic.
@@Jenovi Yeah, I beiefly went over it in my "rise and fall" video, but a lot has happened since I made it. Also be good to claw back some of that $4000 they still owe me :D
As many times as other channels have mentioned your channel, I'm still surprised that you don't have more than 14k subs. The way you research and break down specific topics is unlike almost anyone else making retro gaming videos, and your topics are so unique and specific that no one else is covering them. Even if you cover something that another channel has done, I'm going to watch it anyway just to hear your take on it. Your videos are always insightful and a joy to watch.
I think it's just a matter of time. For whatever reason the algorithm doesn't seem to have picked you up yet but I'm sure there will be a video in your future that will really break through.
I'm good either way, I really appreciate the amazing community we have here. I also appreciate your long time support and constant interaction.
The algorithm hasn't been favorable to your channel as of late. I've tried to make a point to seek out your latest uploads. I'm always happy to see a new upload from you. Keep doing what you're doing Jenovi, much love.
Yeah, I'm certainly aware, and could do more on my end to help with that. I guess it's just beyond what I'm willing to do. I really appreciate the love and support.
@@Jenovi not every channel has to go mainstream. I just know youtube will be worse off without creators like you. I'll be here as long as you enjoy bringing us more videos.
Thanks for your words.
A very good topic! And congrats on 14K subs!
Thanks amigo, appreciate you being on board for this ride.
@@Jenovi And more to come homie! I've decided to also seriously start my own journey. 😎
I'm a simple (and apparently rare) man: I subscribe to channels I like and then watch their videos.
It's a solid policy. 🤠
It's tempting for sure especially if you don't understand how UA-cam works. The inflated ego aside, UA-cam and Google have methods to detect these issues and can penalize your channel without warning and without even telling you.
We can see this happen in real time. All that hard work down the drain as any real growth is nearly impossible without purchasing it.
That's pretty messed up, but hey, Google is a mess generally.
My channel is basically one of those abandoned urban places other UA-camrs make channels about.
Yum!
Not gonna lie, I often get discouraged when making my own content as I do wish my growth were bigger xD
But thankfully, I never bought subs haha.
I think we all do St1ka, and anyone who tells you they haven't, would be lying.
@@Jenovi Very true. I think youtube feeds creators so many numbers that it's easy to become obsessed
Keep it up man your content is great all it takes is one video to take off for all that hard work to pay off.
@@nekonekopanicnekonekopanic7335 i try 😅
Keep it up, @St1ka . You make quality videos, and should feel proud of that.
I don't personally think subscriber numbers should mean all that much.
Thank you very much for this video!! I have been following A LOT of people who talk about UA-cam growth, but this is the first time that someone has been blunt and really explained the TRUE views to Subscribers count. I run a Martial Arts Tutorials channel and for the past year I have been feeling down because for what I suposedly knew, my numbers were crap but in reality they have been grown little by little, not at the rate I want to but it has grown.
In my case I made a mistake at the beginning, I got into a Comment for Comment group, in which we had to Subscribe, Watch and Comment others videos...the numbers at the beginning were something I did not expect, but I felt that in a way I was screwing what I have been doing before by doing that and lo and behold, it took me at least six months to partially repair that damage.
Anyways, love this video and THANK YOU for sharing this with us!!
Ps. I know of two channels on my niche that have purchased AN INCREDIBLE number of Subscriptions. One has 1mil Subs and other 100k and both of them when they upload a video have less than 5% of those numbers in views.
Hey Nicolás, many thank for this comment. I've seen folks do sub for sub and always recommend against it. I can understand why it happens though. Getting the first set of eyes then subs on a channel is quite challenging. I feel with UA-cam, the metrics are so tight, it's easy to screw with any momentum you may have. If I could give any advice, it would be to naturally grow a channel, and rather than sub for sub, focus channel collaborations. Those don't often net many subs, but the ones you gain will be more likely to continue consuming the videos you release. I wish you nothing but the best going forward.
One giveaway when it comes to purchased subs (or even views) is looking at the videos themselves. Empty comment section? Major red flag right there and not the sign of a healthy/active community. Anyway, I appreciate video topics such as this. As someone that's been around a while, it's easy to become disheartened by the whole system. It's important to keep a realistic perspective and the points brought up in this video help with that.
Thanks! That was essentially the point of this. Every year, I see people leave because they feel like their channel is flatlining. Sometimes it is, not always though.
Always been curious about these "services". This will be insightful
@A Volpe yeah I have a vague idea about them...silicon valley had an episode satiring it too
Great video! UA-cam can be a cruel platform for sure
Thanks amigo. It certainly can and it's easy to get discouraged, even if a channel is having more success than the creator realizes.
@@Jenovi 100%, btw..this video was recommended to me 😂, great job!
I am going to be honest I have seen channels with 100,000,000 of subs get around 1 percent views, I have seen small channel that have quite a few videos with a higher number of views then their subs, and I have seen small channels that make bank through Patreon due to that small community of views really wanting to support the content creator. It's all over the place with UA-cam
Same, and there's almost always very logical reasons for this.
I don't understand the logic in buying subs, for I have never subbed to a channel based on the number of subs the channel has.
It's not so much to get others to subscribe, but help build that influencer status.
When I heard you could buy subs my first thought was meatballs with provolone.
I only discovered a certain channel in the last few days, because a certain channel did a bunch of good Evercade coverage. Then early his morning I discover that said channel was removed from UA-cam after it came out that they bought subs. Most disappointing.
Thank you for the useful information dude!
The unfortunate side is that channel was fine, had an audience, and steady slow growth. Then it all the sudden jumped in subs, other creators in that space start questioning their own work, impact, and if they are waisting their time. Channels close up over stuff like this, and while those people may be a little soft due to that, it's still concerning that they would close up shop over what's essentially a fraud. So yeah, I want my friend to know, we all have doubts, we all have dreams for out channel, and we all need to hear this. That's my view.
As someone who really just makes videos out of passion projects and not trying to worry about growth or success this was a very reaffirming video with alot of positivity. Trying to meet the YT metrics of success is very stressful and it can take the fun out of making content for some people. When you just want to talk about things that interest you and end up finding other friends who can enjoy it, that is a real genuine benefit of being able to have a platform like YT. The pressure of schedules and chasing numbers kind of fades into the background so you can just work at your own pace and put out whatever content you enjoy. Great video!
You essentially described me here. Thank you for the great comment, couldn't agree more, and thank you for watching.
Those last two minutes really hit hard. After a while, you either get play to the audience you have or lose your mind obsessing over numbers or why you aren’t bigger and wanting to quit. Been there in both
I just found your channel a bat ago, and have watched alot of your catalog, I hope you get more traction!!!!!
Thanks for this, especially the low-sounding click through percentages. Old channel with a gap and about 1/3 old subs (so same problem as buying), so there might be case to be made for restarting or 2nd-channeling. I could always try 'not sucking' but that's way more work. 😅
I can think of a few who had success doing this, but it's a hard road without guarantees.
Breaking down those numbers was much appreciated and for some folks like myself who have basically zero knowledge of how good or bad our channels are doing, it at least gives us some kind of baseline to follow. For others it may at least temper expectations and help them understand that you don't need to go from small to gigantic in an instant. In the end if even only a few people at least keep an open mind after watching this video or the one I had uploaded about buying subs then I think it's mission accomplished. :)
100% ❤️
Buying official google ads for ones' channel can lead to this as well, it's pretty messed up for sure.
You can grow a channel that way, but 99.99999% of the time, it will lead to incredibly low retention rates, high view numbers, and incredibly low conversion rates of viewer to sub. The metrics will look different.
7:11 I think I know who that is 😆
Great video, very informative.
Thanks for stopping by. I think you know you know, if you know what I mean. 🤠
Well, you know guys: work hard, make friends and don't purchase numbers.
Always solid advice.
Great break down and yes I forgot to say that to you guys... while the use of ads can help I always recommended people to do so on videos that are old or not getting any views at all cuz it could hinder your channel.
on my side for a channel to be honest, I think I'm doing amazing not every video is a banger, but we will get there XD
You my friend, are doing amazing.
It’s one of the hardest blows a content creator can take when they work on a video for weeks thinking it will be a success only to fail,
It honestly makes you rethink if we should just put all of our free time to something else that’s more meaningful.
Having consistent uploads each week isn’t easy if it requires a lot of effort and research and unfortunately UA-cam dosent like that.
But like you said their is always a niche audience for every type of content.
I guess the moral of the story is as long as you don’t feel burned out just keep creating what you enjoy.
What a banger, Jenovi!
Thanks
A fantastic video Jenovi, bought subs is a topic i have often heard talked of, but didn't really understand why people would chase to the degree they did.
The usual red flags for myself I have witnessed were unnatural jumps in subscription counts, very low interactions in the comments section and by the same individuals, who either just happened to own the obscure platforms being covered or had been completely and utterly aware of the platforms until they saw the video in question
Once the behaviour pattern becomes established, they are rumbled.
Also sock accounts, channels that suddenly appear, only comment on videos by same host, appear after existing, well known sock accounts are exposed and dissapear
As a content creator myself, I've learned to only make videos that I would watch.
I don't care about the statistics. I care about the content of my videos.
*"A platform should not shape your creative vision."* - Left Earth 2022
Certainly a positive perspective.
Thank you sir. I hate it when channels say, "I'd love to do more "A" type videos which I really have a passion for, but the "B" type videos get me the most views, so I have to do the "B" vids"
Couldn’t agree more.
Dude great video very informative
I know I've always been told that if your channel gets 10% viewers to subs, your channel is very healthy.
Spot on
@5:50 I want to point out that this is called "Influencer fraud" and will get you punished. Most of the time you won't catch criminal charges but you WILL get blacklisted. And I don't mean your channel, you as a person, will end up on a marketing blacklist. Marketers are wise to influencer fraud and they compare notes with each other.
I had no clue this was a term, thank you for sharing.
@@Jenovi Influencer fraud is big business. It's a pretty huge rabbit hole of it's own. One of the crazy things you'll learn while digging into influencer fraud is exactly how incredibly FAKE the majority of the internet is.
I think everyone should learn how fake social media is so they'll have a better understanding of their own successes. You brought up a good point about how the "big creator's" fake numbers can demoralize smaller creators.
Quality comments are the best metric for determining whether or not a UA-cam channel's success is real. They're the hardest to fake and rarely sold. Views are easy to buy.
It’s always weird seeing videos with loads of views and no comments, or super low view counts despite thousands of subs. I’m ok getting a few views and nice comments each week. No way I would waste money buying subs.
I make dumb videos that I enjoy making
If you enjoy what you do, that's all that matters.
Jenovi, could you edit some of your "definitive look" together to make a or some 1 hour videos?
Lord, no.
@@Jenovi 🤣🤣🤣
Many people can not admit to this.
Hoping it helps
If you wanna feel super shitty about your numbers, regardless of your sub count or view count, look at your "average mins watched per video". That's a reality check to anyone who thinks they're hot shit.
That's one of those numbers that is impossible to know what's "'good" unless you have friends to compare with.
could you share the spreadsheet with the growth stats?
Wish I could. This was quite a while back. I ended up losing that hard drive along with all the videos on it. I did spend time checking to make sure the numbers were the same before recoding this, and yeah, they still check out.
Im still small and i work very hard on my channel especially as a single mom but i would NEVER buy subscribers!
You'll find traction, just keep at it. Your videos are fun, funny, and genuine.
Thank you for the video! The worst is trolls im lucky i havent had many but the ones i had on my channel were upsetting i just block & deleted but i almost gave up a few times on my channel then i came back. . GOODNIGHT:) great video
That's essentially all you can do. I don't typically block, but shadow banning (hidden comments) is a solid move. Most won't realize they are posting comments only they will see. If you're enjoying your channel, don't let some bad eggs take that from you. PS. Thank you for the comment and for watching.
@@Jenovi thank you for the msg i do block if they are harassing me thank you for the msg i enjoy making videos i do it for fun and i love trying to make them different. Thank you and i love your channel its amazing!
I have a conversion rate of well under .5%, seems I may never find a larger audience :) Here's hoping your analysis is only generally valid not individually true :)) Great effort to gather up all that info, any chance of making that spreadsheet publicly available?
I think a lot of this is need to buy subs or feel worthless is caused by fearmongering amongst UA-camrs or by UA-cam itself. Also how does buying subs actually work? Is there a shop one of these people (cough Pete cough) goes to? 🤔
Yeah, it's quite easy, but really not recommended as I said in the video. For the record, I quite like Pete.
@@Jenovi I didn't know what to make of Pete to begin with but I feel his positivity is lacking in retro gaming. I guess people are a little too cynical for that. Still he made a bad mistake with the whole sub thing.
Great video Jenovi, this was an excellent breakdown of some raw truths for the UA-cam platform. I feel like it pairs really well with Matty's video about how to stay positive as a channel owner and video creator: ua-cam.com/video/etujYCIbIuY/v-deo.html
Thanks mate, I'll 100% check this out. I really hate seeing creators I love leave the platform due to what they feel is a lack of success.
Say you talking about oeb Pete without saying your...well. nvm.
The channel is gone, soooo…
@@Jenovi Isn't he back now?
Did you make this for me? lol
Maaaaybe…?
@@Jenovi either way its a good wake up call.
Sort of interesting I guess, but not really the kind of video I expected. Seems like some UA-cam drama I'm unaware of.
Nah, more just a message to some fellow creators who have been down in the dumps. I really don’t want to see them abandon their channels, so was helping a video like this would help. Main video still coming, been working on it right along.
@@Jenovi I see, that's a good motivation. I hope it helps. Looking forward to your new video.
Solif video man
Thanks amigo, really appreciate you stopping by.
FIRST!
Not if I delete this comment. 😉
@@Jenovi I took a screenshot and will contact Susan to have it restored!
Bought subs are bots, youtube clears bots. Bought subs don’t stay on a channel for ever, you acting like they do. They DO NOT, they will eventually fall off.
Solid point, though it can take a while.
UA-cam brutally CENSORS AND BANS my content because i dare to tell the truth in my music about things like the vack scene, so i went to bitchute although it is a small platform
saggy melonz is a clout chaser
Who cares? She isn't paying for subs so let her play that chasing game which is just as much as a pointless in the long run. SmashJT does the same thing.
To some degree, who isn't?
@@Jenovi It goes without saying. I wish some of these people would get off their soap box. 😆
Just wanted to say that your videos are amazing. You put so much detailed research, thought, and explanation, into everything you upload. I could easily see your channel exploding soon. Thanks for all the dedicated time, and hard work. 🫡
Thank you Noah, I've been a bit disconnected, but really appreciate the comment.