The Definitive Sega 32X Review Guide | Night Trap + More | PT:IV
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Episode 96 - The Definitive Sega 32X Buyers Guide - A video guide that covers every game on the platform. This will be done in multiple parts and offered in categories rather than issuing standard review scores. Each game has it's own segment and hopefully the info given will help you determine if what game is right for you. Part Three is average and great games with limited appeal.
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Table on contents: (This will be updated in more detail as new parts release.)
##32X-CD##
Corpse Killer - Pt4
Fahrenheit - Pt2
Night Trap - Pt4
Slam City with Scottie Pippen - Pt2
Supreme Warrior - Episode 84 | Pt1
Surgical Strike - Pt2
##32X##
After Burner - TBD
BC Racers - Pt4
Blackthorne - TBD
Brutal: Above the Claw - Episode 84 | Pt1
Cosmic Carnage (JP: Cyber Brawl) - Pt4
Darxide (You really need the manual to play this one.) - TBD
Doom - TBD
FIFA Soccer 96 - TBD
Golf Magazine: 36 Great Holes Starring Fred Couples - TBD
Knuckles' Chaotic - TBD
Kolibri - TBD
Metal Head - TBD
Mortal Kombat II - TBD
Motocross Championship - Episode 84 | Pt1
NBA Jam Tournament Edition - TBD
NFL Quarterback Club - TBD
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure - TBD
Primal Rage - TBD
R.B.I. Baseball ’95 | Pt3
Sangokushi IV - Episode 84 | Pt1
Space Harrier - TBD
Spider-Man: Web of Fire | Pt3
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy Starship Bridge Simulator | Pt3
Star Wars Arcade - TBD
Shadow Squadron (JP and PAL: Stellar Assault) - TBD
T-MEK - TBD
Tempo - TBD
Toughman Contest - TBD
Virtua Fighter - TBD
Virtua Racing Deluxe - TBD
World Series Baseball Starring Deion Sanders - Episode 84 | Pt1
WWF Raw - TBD
WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game - TBD
Zaxxon's Motherbase 2000 (EU: Motherbase/ JP: Parasquad) - TBD
Direct links to the video guide
Part 1 - • The WORST 32X Games | ...
Part 2 - • Sega 32X-CD Buyers Gui...
Part 3 - • Sega 32X Definitive Gu...
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Time Code for games features in this video.
00:00 - Intro
00:56 -Night Trap 32X-CD
04:44 - Cosmic Carnage (JP: Cyber Brawl)
08:21 - Corpse Killer 32X-CD
11:23 - BC Racing
12:47 - Closing - Ігри
"The powerful Phillips CD-i"
*eye twitches*
"the stages are small, just like Maximum Carnage"
*eye twitches*
You sir, are correct. I shouldn’t slander Cyber Brawl like that, it clearly has larger stages. 😅
Why can I only picture the Spiderman game when you say Maximum Carnage? Is that a different game?
@@Jenovi Oh that is it! You and me! we got beef now! You hear me? BEEF!
@@greenkoopa That's the one he means. Me and Jenovi have a friendly feud going on. He hates Spiderman Maximum Carnage, I love Spiderman Maximum Carnage, so we we poke each other :P
@@greenkoopa that’s the game.
I about died of laughter when you brought up Zito's photography. It was definitely a wth moment for me when I stumbled upon it while researching my digital pictures video.
Corpse Killer may not offer a whole lot of variety in terms of gameplay, but the story itself is so over the top and fun that I think that alone makes it worth playing.
Great video and script as usual, Jenovi. Your releases are always a must watch.
With FMVs from that era, it's certainly the story and cheese I'm after. If you go in expecting great game play, you'll be disappointed.
I think most of them are more enjoyable as a purely viewing experience than as a gameplay one, in modern times, imho. I'd rather watch Slam City or Corpse Killer on youtube, or have a vhs with all the footage, than play them at this point. I agree that the cheese is pretty fun.
@@Jenovi Still better than what goes for FMV titles today yikes. 👀👀
Solid video dude but the background music was a bit loud IMO. Took away from what you were saying.
Sorry about that. I typically proof with headphones prior to release, I didn't this time. Not sure I would have changed anything, but typically I adjust the audio that way.
I have to agree though I can only really hear outta one ear anyway.
Agreed on both
@@Jenovihen I was a recording studio engineer, we always had some really crappy speakers, similar to a portable radio, which we used to ensure the balance and essential sounds would still be ok for all possible listening environments.
Aww man I can’t be the only one who loved corpse killer. It was so campy and not been repeated in gaming since Maybe thunder in paradise.
It’s a good time, just not a good game. 🤠
I got a SEGA 32X towards the end of it's life when Kmart was starting to clear them out, and games where $25, or less, and one of the first games I picked up for the system next to Virtua Fighter, and Doom, was Cosmic Carnage, and for the $20 I payed for it I thought it was an alright game, but I liked playing the Cyber Brawl version better having people in the game with more gore. I did play it so much that yes I eventually did get the good ending twice(once on each version), having perfect runs taking very few hits(I don't remember which characters I used at the time). Having said that the game is a bit undercooked, and had it been given more time to bake in the oven so to speak, then I think it could have been right up there with Virtua Fighter as one of the best games for the 32X.
IMHO SEGA screwed up royally with the 32X, and Saturn launch, and should have just released the 32X as a stand alone CD based console that could play Genesis carts(also be used a a RAM/save slot), and SEGA CD titles as an all in one system with 32X features, so a lot of developers would not have had as much trouble getting up to speed to develop for it, and just forgotten about the Saturn, as it bombed everywhere except Japan(yes it was popular in Portugal to some degree) being so difficult to develop for. Plus it would have lowered the cost of the console consoldating existing chipsets, while using existing controllers, etc... that consumers already owned, but as they say hindsight is 20/20.
I agree. Thanks for the great comment, it's appreciated.
I've always wondered if Cosmic Carnage/Cyber Brawl was ever meant to be a port of Sega's arcade fighting game, Dark Edge at some point during development.
They feel quite similar to some degree.
That game was so over shadowed by virtua fighter.... also dark edge was like a 360 degree fighter but I do see what you mean edgy one.
I don't think so, however, it's clear they had contact with that development team as they give Special Thanks to a few members of Dark Edge's development team in the credits. Of special note, the team behind Cyber Brawl had a semi well received fighting game/Beat Em Up released prior to this called Mazin Saga: Mutant Fighter. They would later develop Wonder Project J2 (N64), a followup to the SNES game. So I think with more time, this group was capable delivering a solid experience.
Completely unrelated as Dark Edge ran on Seg's System 32 hardware which as the name implies, was 32-bit architecture.
Cyber Brawl was simply a 16-bit game transfered to the 32-bit 32X
Takayuki Kawagoe, a producer at Sega who produced Japan's 32X games, said the following in the book Sega Consumer History:
The American side was the first to bring up the idea of making the 32X. The Mega Drive sold about 12 million units in America and 7 million units in Europe, and on top of that, there were those who believed that an expensive new console would not sell well in America. So it was decided to release a “power-up booster” for the Mega Drive.
However, the game lineup was quite weak. There was no time to get ready, since we only had ten months between the decision to make the unit and the release. We were able to re-use the Mega Drive’s development tools to a certain extent, which made things a bit easier, but there were no 32X-specific tools at all. In the end, a lot of the games were just 16-bit games transferred to the 32X, such as Cyber Brawl (Cosmic Carnage)
@@Jenovi looking at Mutant Fighter was interesting. You can see some very clear similarities between the character design and animation style. Even some of the same soundfx. thanks for that tip.
The zoom effects on "Cosmic Carnage" do look pretty darn cool, but I can see how they'd be annoying after a while.
It was insane they had the 32x CD games...but i commend sega for trying their best to make it work
That system had a ton of potential too, being games could access the chipsets from all three platforms. Unfortunate we didn't get any of the original non FMV games planned for it.
@@Jenovi it's tough to picture what exactly it could've been capable of, considering how slow the CD reads discs. Lunar-type games could've been a good genre for the target market of the 32x
@@Jenovi has any homebrew 32x CD game ever been made?
7:03 I uploaded a playthrough here on UA-cam with the good ending, a few things I can tell you on how to get the good ending. 1) You can lose a round and still get it. 2) You can play it on the easiest setting and still get it, unlike Street Fighter 2 where you have to be a least on the medium setting.
My playthrough, adding up all the "Time Elapsed" at the end of every round came to 554 seconds or 9 minutes 14 seconds. I put all that info in the description.
So, I'm not 100% sure if the timer is only adding up the in matches or also in between matches, but I'd lean to the only adding the in-match times. The longest time including in between matches I've seen and still getting the good ending was 16 minutes 7 seconds.
So, it's probably 9 minutes 30 second or 10 minutes, in-match time.
It might be janky and flawed as a game but Cosmic Carnage's soundtrack is absolutely top tier, probably the most slept on A-grade OST in the entire catalogue.
There's quite a few great OSTs on the 32X. This one is certainly one of them.
Cosmic Carnage do got good tunes, but my vote's gotta go to Darxide for the best 32X soundtrack, and it too is very slept on.
Odd how the mega cd version of BC racers you can attack from both sides.... but not on the 32x. Also I think the mega cd one somehow plays better and has more interesting track hazards....weird.
I typically do a bit more of a deep dive with these games, but for BC Racers, I only played the 32X version as my Sega CD went down while making this. I did watch some video online, and it looks like the PC version is clean, frame rate wise.
The 32X game is simply running too fast. It’s essentially a broken game as a result.
...I’ve just realised. I think it’s running too fast in the Kega emulator.
@Jackamomo and @Jenovi - BC Racers 32X vs Atari Karts on Jaguar. Which one for a desert island? Go!
Jenovi!! Damn I've missed these vids man! Hope all is good brudda!!👍
I like the 32X but also understand all of it's short comings. I still have mine hooked up =)
I'm glad you're making more videos about 32X games, it's a fascinating and great add-on. Curious, why is the 32X version of Night Trap better than the 3DO? I remember the 3DO port was somehow censored... is that the reason?
Great question. So it's a preference situation here. The 3DO has a cleaner picture, but in doing so, the image is washed out and the FPS is reduced from 15 to 12. The Sega CD has a richer color, a higher frame rate, but is plagued by dithering. I believe the PC version is essentially the same as the 3DO. I don't believe any version is censored, that's just an old rumor.
It’s always a great day when we get a new video from you sir. Thanks for the amazing research and hard work you put into these videos. You are such a huge bonus for our community. Thanks Jenovi.
Cosmic Carnage is an ostentatious counterpart of Blackhole Assault on Sega CD, but not much fun either🤦♂️
Great video! I look forward to these 32 X videos
The most underrated UA-cam channel known to mankind
I'm soon going to play these games because these are games that I grew up before the N64 nostalgic era
This makes me feel good
Woot!
Yayyyy another Jenovi video!!!
Very cool i dont have the sega 32x I LIKE THIS VIDEO VERY MUCH :) watching it still :)
Great to have you back. I was missing your videos. Night Trap looks great on 32X, but I still have a soft spot for the regular Sega CD version. It was mind-blowing seeing movie-like video coming from a Sega console back in the day. Of course, there was barely any gameplay in the "game", but it was impressive nonetheless. BC Racers was better on the Sega CD, even though both versions are pretty bad. If I recall correctly, the 32X lacked any hardware support for scaling and rotating sprites. That would explain the slowdown on Cosmic Carnage and the terrible frame rate on BC Racers and other games on the system. Excellent video, man.
Just imagine if they released a 32X-CD version and let the Sega CD handle that end. 🤔
@@Jenovi Yep. So much wasted power and missed opportunities on the two add-ons ...
Night Trap's content was exaggerated but it certainly wasn't appropriate for youngins, good thing the ESRB came around. It needs to be updated though, bad stuff slips through.
Yay more Jenovi 32X videos
Comic Carnage was one of those games I adored as a kid, just something about it made it feel Arcadey and fun.
To get the good/best ending you gotta beat the game as fast as possible, sadly, no one knows how fast that is...
So, as a guess I'd say no more than 30 seconds per round? Don't quote me
B.C. Racers is buttery smooth and fast when emulated on Kega Fusion. One of the few games that plays much better emulated. Lots of fun, best version you can play.
But original hardware.. not so much.
What an odd deal. I certainly think there's a number of games that would be fantastic, or at least solid if only a few kinks were worked out.
Despite it's numerous flaws, I always enjoyed Cosmic Carnage. Corpse Killer, on any system, is my favorite fmv game.
I've always liked 32x before I thought it was so damn expensive I finally came across the first model Sega Genesis high-definition graphics and I'm just going to get the add-on to the 32x and then if I have enough money to save up I'll get the Sega CD system because it's very very nostalgic
Do you think we'll see any Amico ports to the 32x?
Ooohhh this comment best comment
It would be quite easy, considering the superior hardware power the 32X possesses. However, it's unlikely we will see these "original Amico games" on any platform.
@@Jenovi 🤣🤣🤣
*GOT IM!*
@@Jenovi I'm gonna share your video on Instagram Jenovi
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY 32X AND GAME COLLECTION 🥰
Nothing like watching jenovi with my son!
You can listen the Night Trap Song in full lenght and remastered in Stereo here:
ua-cam.com/video/6gxT-C48iyg/v-deo.html
3:34 i heard of this game everyone with the 32x mentions it its strange lol
Erm, BC Racers is really good fun. The 32X version runs very smoothly but much too fast. It’s fascinating to see just how many sprites can scale on the 32X. The Mega CD version is choppy, but considering how many sprites it’s scaling, it’s forgivable. The speed is manageable though so it’s better despite the choppy action.
Edit: I think Kega runs it too fast.
Who's this guy with the sharp looking glasses?!?
First and likely last time I wear them on camera due to how they catch the light.
What made the 32XCD Night Trap release better than the 3DO port?
It's a preference situation here. The 3DO has a cleaner picture, but in doing so, the image is washed out and the FPS is reduced from 15 to 12. The Sega 32x-CD has a richer color, a higher frame rate, but is plagued by dithering. I believe the PC version is essentially the same as the 3DO.
I still laugh at those senate meeting about Night Trap, as a watcher of horror films all I can think is "You guys need to get out more." since it's the tamest horror story ever told. ^_^ I wish it were either more racy or more tame in hindsight since the middle ground is kind of dull imo. Not a fan but glad they remastered to the point anyone curious can play it.
CC/CB is a game of unfulfilled potential, shame the design isn't more satisfying but that is hard to come by in that genre outside of the big staple fighters. Slowdown aside the engine is pretty stable and fast compared to other 32X games.
Corpse Killer is my favorite DP game mainly because it's the most interactive and video game like title they ever made. I think they had very little budget at that point, the days of Sewer Shark/Double Switch scale budgets were over. Sure not the best example of a rale shooter but I admire their ambition to move past the Nemo standard.
32X BC Racing should have been like PB&J for the hardware, the sprites transferred fine but that performance level is just embarrassing for something done well already before this version. Idk why but it seemed like everybody other than Nintendo usually couldn't make a good kart racer. O_o??? Think that's why the genre phased out for a time.
I played Mario Kart and it was really dull. I’m not sure why but the experience was just very dry and monotonous. I felt Street Racer was a bit more exciting. I bought a DS with Mario Kart and that was boring too. Mario Kart is just really boring. There’s a cart racing game on the Saturn I’d like to play one day but it’s realistic go carts, not cartoony at all.
Wacky Wheels is more fun than Mario Kart.
@@iwanttocomplain I guess you don't like Mario Kart, I won't hold it against you. I think F-Zero lacks something myself. ;)
Street Racer is a good one, one of the few highlights of kart clones. Atari Kart looks nice imo but shallow gameplay.
I think too often it was engine first and game design second with these games. I always wanted a platformer/adventure game from that perspective but Sonic CD/Jazz Jackrabbit bonus stages was about it.
Things kind of ramped up on Sega Saturn though since there was a lot of games there with a Mode7 style floor but with the added benefit of polygon models on top which offered more design options.
@@loganjorgensen F-Zero is just like Mario Kart. It looks good on paper but there’s a certain spark missing and it ends up feeling repetitive too.
@@iwanttocomplain This guy gets it. 👍
@@loganjorgensen I actually preferred Wacky Wheels, it’s frame rate is poor but it plays well.
A platformer with a single flat plane sound kind of like a oxymoron. The closest thing I can think of is Shiny Entertainment’s MDK.
Night Trap is the five Nights with freddy of the 90s 😅
I still need to collect these games. Cosmic Carnage could be better. There are CERTAINLY better FMV games on Mega CD than Corpse Killer and Night Trap. As for BC Racers I always enjoyed the look of it so will pick up the Mega CD port.
It's the better version.
@@Jenovi Also conveniently exists in PAL unlike the 32X one. 😊
I would rate them as follows: Night Trap 8/10, Cosmic Carnage 5/10, Corpse Killer 7/10, BC Racers 7/10.
Super interesting take. How much of the 32X library have you played and do you have a bottom tier list?
@@Jenovi Almost all, except for the Japanese exclusive and the few US exclusives that are region locked (like Spiderman, Star Trek, Pit Fall and Tempo). I have all games that were released in PAL territories and most of the US exclusives that aren't locked (missing Brutal, which I suppose is horrible, considering the Mega cd gane). Bottom tier list, hmm lets see. I absolutely hate Slam City, NFL Quarterback Club is very boring to me, the wrestling games really bore me and don't really add anything. Mortal Kombat 2, Toughman Contest and Primal Rage also do nothing for me. World Series Baseball is also disappointing, RBI is better.
Thanks, I really appreciate the response and sharing your thoughts.
I thought the 3DO Night Trap was better than 32x.
So it's a preference situation here. The 3DO has a cleaner picture, but in doing so, the image is washed out and the FPS is reduced from 15 to 12. The Sega 32x-CD has a richer color, a higher frame rate, but is plagued by dithering. I believe the PC version is essentially the same as the 3DO.
@@Jenovi oh interesting! I own it for 3DO, but only remember the 32x CD night trap from my sega friend who rented it and the fireman 32x CD game for a birthday once. I do have to say Sewer Shark on the 3DO is actually fun as you can play it...visually, for the directions 😲
On Sega CD, I had to use the audio to play.
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I'll take Web Of Fire over all of these games
Same