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This is wot we love. Please Don't Ask is a classic.please don't ask sounded perfect in the Duke suite. Such depth and punch. Right in the guts. Albert's story. Art imitating life. Thats how i heard it first! And that's how it is. Good man Phil. Chairs sir!
Thank you for uploading this rare interview with Phil Collins. Like everyone else, I've always wondered if most of his relationship songs were autobiographical. I'm surprised to hear that they weren't. But, he definitely sings those songs as if they were. Very heartfelt.❤
Thank you, Phil Collins for your brilliant music. I have been a fan of Genesis in the Peter Gabriel years and in the Phil Collins years, and your music has brought much joy and entertainment, and inspiration to me, and to I know millions of people worldwide God bless you, kudos to you, Tony, Peter, Michael, Steve, Chester, and Darrell, and all the other brilliant musicians you played with ! II will always be a genesis fan and I will always be grateful for that music! PS, I saw you guys at my college Fairleigh Dickinson University in 1973 when you dropped selling England by the pound you played in our college cafeteria and not too many people in the states knew about you guys back then- but that night I became convinced that you were world conquering brilliant Rockstars God bless you and keep rocking us,love yer music, and always will!!!! brother , your fan and friend Jerry Potente
Stream of Consciousness as lyrics is interesting. Similar to improvising music, particularly jazz. 'Hold On My Heart' springing from John Martyn is quite interesting. Ideas are important, but more important is what you do with those ideas. Knowing what to add and what to leave out is what makes a song great. Clearly Phil and Genesis were some of the best. Such wonderful melodies!
Your interviews are very enlighting. Providing both fact and a bit of the emotion of the subject. I am a huge Phil Collins and Genesis fan. Enjoy all your interviews with them. Thank you.
Gracias por tan GENIAL entrevista y sobre todo el saber que la personalidades cualquiera que sea, no tendría que explicarnos el porque hizo tal o cual cosa o porque dejo de hacerlo, que no se nos olvide que, antes de todo es un ser humano igual que nosotros y tienen su muy particular forma de ser igual que nosotros y lo que nos otorgó con su muy peculiar y genial forma de crear música eso nos hace afortunados y el siempre seguirá siendo MÍSTER PHILL COLLINS arriba de un escenario, produciendo música o dejando de hacerlo. GRACIAS al entrevistador simplemente AMAIZING!!
I like to see Phil this at ease & talking with a smile. Thanks for the many interviews you’ve done with Phil, any chance of new ones? Not heard from Phil in a few years
Thx for this very interesting talk about Genesis‘ genesis of certain songs and Theo feedback. Still haven‘t listened to one of their albums in complete, but I guess I’ll do so, once.
I was active in the official forum back in the day. There was a lot of blaming Phil. People going on about how Genesis was "over" when Pete or Steve left. A lot of people too good for popular music. I think it's funny when your whole persona online is about disliking someone so hard as Phil Collins.
Indeed. I was very active on the newsgroup alt.music.genesis between 1996 and 1998, and there was a lot of blaming Phil for Genesis going pop, just like you say. I am fortunate to enjoy progrock as well as pop, so I enjoy both sides of Genesis. While my absolute favourite albums are Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot, I also love We Can't Dance, 1983 self-titled album and Abacab, for example. But I guess the people who can't enjoy the pop side are bitter about having lost the chance of getting more albums in the style they prefer.
"Please Don't Ask" is heartbreaking and would have been perfect for 'Face Value'. Beautifully done nonetheless. Love how Phil walks into emotion straight ahead. I think Peter does also. Authenticity, but with different outlooks. Vulnerable, but with a swagger. "Taking It All Too Hard" I thought was Phil singing to himself. Maybe Mike knows Phil well? Three (or five) equal intellects.
The reason many take it seriously is that music is not just music, its not just entertainment or commerce, its also art. Very few things are that, even film is not that, at least not yet. There is a reason when we see a good comic book like Allan Moore we say "it rises to the level of art", despite the fact that 'drawing figures' is quite literally called 'art', and yet we dno't call comic books that. Mainly because they are made just to be sold. Early Genesis is 'art', later Genesis is entertainment, sometimes rising to the level of social criticism, which is kind of a sideroad on the way to art. And what we know now is just how artistic an endevour it was. Without the interviews we could just think that some songwriter GAVE them sheet music and they just performed it, much as most metal bands in the eighties did with their 'power ballads'. As for 'honesty' its odd to hear a guy say 'its just music' who just ten years prior was still bristling that they had a great instrumental with the Battle of Epping Forest, until Pete covered it with lyrics. And getting visibly miffed and saying "I just didn't think it was very musical" about the costumes in The Lamb. For a guy who lived and breathed music and through the seventies literally couldn't stop playing to say its 'just music' is a little weird. Love songs are not 'honest', its why its teen girls who gravitate to them and ANY emotional expression and why metal bands went out and BOUGHT power ballads. Peters lyrics are much more honest, as all 'art' is. But anybody who actually knows Genesis knows that certainly nobody is going to make Tony Banks do anything, and if Tony Banks was thinking "you know, if I let him do what he wants for a couple of songs then I can buy a pool and get my kids through college", then thats pretty understandable. Even the artists that DON"T get hits usually say they were actually TRYING, they obvious just didn't know how. This same argument resurfaces in the late nineties when Modest Mouse sold "Float on" to a car for a car commercial. They said their 'devoted fans' were totally pissed but good lord, everybody has to survive in this world. When we're some kind of collective and people don't need to worry about putting food on the table then we can start judging artists choices. Even Mozart was largely working for customers.
To be honest, i think Genesis music, both 70,80 and even 90s were much interesting than most pop rock music. And yes, i include 70s in the pop rock category, even if They had that progressive rock/ symphonic rock and bits of folk and jazz fusion.
@@bernab There was a lot of good pop rock in ALL those years, the problem is not the music but the industry. Hearing a song over and over again is what often makes songs either gain or lose lustre. Usually I found the 'singles' to be the worst songs on an album. That they are 'better than most' certainly goes without saying or nobody would be talking about them still. But certainly when you admit that you 'start your song with a drum machine pattern' then you are not even remotely talking about the same band as in the seventies. And anybody can use a drum machine.
Please Don't Ask is a good song, but as a Genesis fan who can take or leave Phil's solo material I'd rather it wasn't on Duke. The same applies to all members solo material, with the possible exception of a few Hackett songs, because their personal mark on their solo music is so distinct and usually very different to what Genesis were about. That's just my opinion. I guess the inclusion of such personal tracks enlarged their fan base so fair play to them. There's till all the older material for us prog snobs.
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I learned more about my favorite band from your videos than anywhere else, thank you!
Happy to hear that! Cheers !
This is wot we love. Please Don't Ask is a classic.please don't ask sounded perfect in the Duke suite. Such depth and punch. Right in the guts. Albert's story. Art imitating life.
Thats how i heard it first! And that's how it is.
Good man Phil.
Chairs sir!
He's in a very relaxed mood here isn't he? It gives him the room to answer the questions in a very thoughtful manner. Excellent interview.
Love your work, John!!
Thank you !
Thank you for uploading this rare interview with Phil Collins. Like everyone else, I've always wondered if most of his relationship songs were autobiographical. I'm surprised to hear that they weren't. But, he definitely sings those songs as if they were. Very heartfelt.❤
Great to hear Phil talk about the Bee Gees.
Thank you, Phil Collins for your brilliant music. I have been a fan of Genesis in the Peter Gabriel years and in the Phil Collins years, and your music has brought much joy and entertainment, and inspiration to me, and to I know millions of people worldwide God bless you, kudos to you, Tony, Peter, Michael, Steve, Chester, and Darrell, and all the other brilliant musicians you played with ! II will always be a genesis fan and I will always be grateful for that music! PS, I saw you guys at my college Fairleigh Dickinson University in 1973 when you dropped selling England by the pound you played in our college cafeteria and not too many people in the states knew about you guys back then- but that night I became convinced that you were world conquering brilliant Rockstars God bless you and keep rocking us,love yer music, and always will!!!! brother , your fan and friend Jerry Potente
Brilliant, nice to hear in details Those songs mean so much to me
Glad you enjoyed it!
I always loved "Please Don't Ask" from the day on when I got the album. It sits perfectly before the "Duke's Travels" epic.
Stream of Consciousness as lyrics is interesting. Similar to improvising music, particularly jazz. 'Hold On My Heart' springing from John Martyn is quite interesting. Ideas are important, but more important is what you do with those ideas. Knowing what to add and what to leave out is what makes a song great. Clearly Phil and Genesis were some of the best. Such wonderful melodies!
Your interviews are very enlighting. Providing both fact and a bit of the emotion of the subject. I am a huge Phil Collins and Genesis fan. Enjoy all your interviews with them. Thank you.
Gracias por tan GENIAL entrevista y sobre todo el saber que la personalidades cualquiera que sea, no tendría que explicarnos el porque hizo tal o cual cosa o porque dejo de hacerlo, que no se nos olvide que, antes de todo es un ser humano igual que nosotros y tienen su muy particular forma de ser igual que nosotros y lo que nos otorgó con su muy peculiar y genial forma de crear música eso nos hace afortunados y el siempre seguirá siendo MÍSTER PHILL COLLINS arriba de un escenario, produciendo música o dejando de hacerlo. GRACIAS al entrevistador simplemente AMAIZING!!
I like to see Phil this at ease & talking with a smile.
Thanks for the many interviews you’ve done with Phil, any chance of new ones?
Not heard from Phil in a few years
Fantastic John, thank you.
Again. The best interviews ever❤😊
Thanks!
Really great that the interviewer just lets him talk
Fantastic. I could listen to Phil talk all day, similar in that respect to listening to Trevor Horn.
Thx for this very interesting talk about Genesis‘ genesis of certain songs and Theo feedback. Still haven‘t listened to one of their albums in complete, but I guess I’ll do so, once.
I was active in the official forum back in the day. There was a lot of blaming Phil. People going on about how Genesis was "over" when Pete or Steve left. A lot of people too good for popular music. I think it's funny when your whole persona online is about disliking someone so hard as Phil Collins.
Indeed. I was very active on the newsgroup alt.music.genesis between 1996 and 1998, and there was a lot of blaming Phil for Genesis going pop, just like you say. I am fortunate to enjoy progrock as well as pop, so I enjoy both sides of Genesis. While my absolute favourite albums are Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot, I also love We Can't Dance, 1983 self-titled album and Abacab, for example. But I guess the people who can't enjoy the pop side are bitter about having lost the chance of getting more albums in the style they prefer.
"Please Don't Ask" is heartbreaking and would have been perfect for 'Face Value'. Beautifully done nonetheless. Love how Phil walks into emotion straight ahead. I think Peter does also. Authenticity, but with different outlooks. Vulnerable, but with a swagger. "Taking It All Too Hard" I thought was Phil singing to himself. Maybe Mike knows Phil well? Three (or five) equal intellects.
love watching these interviews i hope you have many more
Have yopu checked out the playlist of all my Genesis interviews ? ua-cam.com/play/PL4-tKyR13ib7F3Q6wDh0bOq38v4ZrcF0F.html
The reason many take it seriously is that music is not just music, its not just entertainment or commerce, its also art. Very few things are that, even film is not that, at least not yet. There is a reason when we see a good comic book like Allan Moore we say "it rises to the level of art", despite the fact that 'drawing figures' is quite literally called 'art', and yet we dno't call comic books that. Mainly because they are made just to be sold. Early Genesis is 'art', later Genesis is entertainment, sometimes rising to the level of social criticism, which is kind of a sideroad on the way to art. And what we know now is just how artistic an endevour it was. Without the interviews we could just think that some songwriter GAVE them sheet music and they just performed it, much as most metal bands in the eighties did with their 'power ballads'.
As for 'honesty' its odd to hear a guy say 'its just music' who just ten years prior was still bristling that they had a great instrumental with the Battle of Epping Forest, until Pete covered it with lyrics. And getting visibly miffed and saying "I just didn't think it was very musical" about the costumes in The Lamb. For a guy who lived and breathed music and through the seventies literally couldn't stop playing to say its 'just music' is a little weird.
Love songs are not 'honest', its why its teen girls who gravitate to them and ANY emotional expression and why metal bands went out and BOUGHT power ballads. Peters lyrics are much more honest, as all 'art' is. But anybody who actually knows Genesis knows that certainly nobody is going to make Tony Banks do anything, and if Tony Banks was thinking "you know, if I let him do what he wants for a couple of songs then I can buy a pool and get my kids through college", then thats pretty understandable. Even the artists that DON"T get hits usually say they were actually TRYING, they obvious just didn't know how.
This same argument resurfaces in the late nineties when Modest Mouse sold "Float on" to a car for a car commercial. They said their 'devoted fans' were totally pissed but good lord, everybody has to survive in this world. When we're some kind of collective and people don't need to worry about putting food on the table then we can start judging artists choices. Even Mozart was largely working for customers.
To be honest, i think Genesis music, both 70,80 and even 90s were much interesting than most pop rock music. And yes, i include 70s in the pop rock category, even if They had that progressive rock/ symphonic rock and bits of folk and jazz fusion.
@@bernab There was a lot of good pop rock in ALL those years, the problem is not the music but the industry. Hearing a song over and over again is what often makes songs either gain or lose lustre. Usually I found the 'singles' to be the worst songs on an album.
That they are 'better than most' certainly goes without saying or nobody would be talking about them still. But certainly when you admit that you 'start your song with a drum machine pattern' then you are not even remotely talking about the same band as in the seventies. And anybody can use a drum machine.
Please Don't Ask is a good song, but as a Genesis fan who can take or leave Phil's solo material I'd rather it wasn't on Duke. The same applies to all members solo material, with the possible exception of a few Hackett songs, because their personal mark on their solo music is so distinct and usually very different to what Genesis were about. That's just my opinion. I guess the inclusion of such personal tracks enlarged their fan base so fair play to them. There's till all the older material for us prog snobs.
This looks like it was a few years ago.
When was this?
2014
@@rexrogers4588 thank you 😊
First time I've heard Phil mention ELO. How cool is that!
Who's Deirdre?
Its just a random name, as an example..
@@johnsayer116 I know - I was joking