LUMINETH TACTICS: Tier list GHB 23.24
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Welcome to a new Age of Sigmar in-depth strategy guide! In this video Siegfried and Jonas rate all the different Lumineth units for the Andtor season of GHB '23-'24.
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Time stamps:
0:00 intro
5:07 Wardens
9:17 Sentinels
15:04 Dawnriders
20:33 Ballista
24:18 BladeLords
31:39 BannerBlade
36:58 Lord Regent
39:45 Ellania and Ellathor
45:42 Eltharion
50:10 Teclis
1:00:39 Calligrave
1:03:53 Loreseeker
1:07:46 Cathallar
1:11:53 Enlightener
1:15:55 Hurakan temple/Severith
1:23:47 Spirit of the wind
1:25:46 windmage
1:27:41 windchargers
1:33:20 Stoneguard
1:44:41 Stonemage
1:45:48 Spirit of the Mountain
1:49:45 Avalenor
1:52:05 Lyrior Ulthrale
1:54:03 Endless spells
1:57:33 Myaris’ Purifiers
1:59:13 Shrine Luminor
2:02:53 Battletome
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What's your current favorite LRL unit this season?
Eltharion always. I never leave home without him.
I'm so glad people finally feel good about using him! Thanks for the comment
Still Teclis. He's expensive on points, which makes him cheaper on the wallet.
@@JohannRaphaelTKing Hah, very fair! That was a big reason why I wanted him to start off with as well
Ellania and Elathor
Just a time stamp guide:
0:00 intro
5:07 Wardens
9:17 Sentinels
15:04 Dawnriders
20:33 Ballista
24:18 BladeLords
31:39 BannerBlade
36:58 Lord Regent
39:45 Ellania and Ellathor
45:42 Eltharion
50:10 Teclis
1:00:39 Calligrave
1:03:53 Loreseeker
1:07:46 Cathallar
1:11:53 Enlightener
1:15:55 Hurakan temple/Severith
1:23:47 Spirit of the wind
1:25:46 windmage
1:27:41 windchargers
1:33:20 Stoneguard
1:44:41 Stonemage
1:45:48 Spirit of the Mountain
1:49:45 Avalenor
1:52:05 Lyrior Ulthrale
1:54:03 Endless spells
1:57:33 Myaris’ Purifiers
1:59:13 Shrine Luminor
2:02:53 Battletome
Truly grateful for this. :)
Great video gents. Showcasing alot of units as top tier that I use in my own list. Love it!
Thanks for this video, ive been looking forward to it. Bring on more Lumineth content!!!
Senthoi build video might be coming up 🥳
I'd love to see a video on shrine placement and uses, maybe quickly running through each deployment map. I constantly find I misplay mine or put it in my own way.
Good idea. I made a video about that way back when, but it can use some updating.
Thanks a lot for this amazing content ❤
You're too kind!
Love this video ❤
Thanks, Alan!
It’s great to hear you again Jonas, I’ve missed your voice, as usual your videos are top notch and very informative, keep up the great work.
I do have some thoughts on the list:
Wardens- Solid, but only because we have to pay such a premium for battle line, and they are wizards, if we fix our battle line issues I’d put them in avoid, they have good damage on paper, but as someone who runs 2 units of 40, they really struggle to kill anything because they either miss or just die (even fully buffed) they’re just weak in practice.
Sentinels- Soild, they are a staple, and even with all the things that has happened, a ranged wizard unit with decent mortal wound output is good, better than the ballista anyway, but you’d never run them in units of less than 20.
Dawnriders- solid, yes they’re good screens and objective cappers, I wish they were the heavy Calvary they were supposed to be, the CoS cavaliers are what the riders should have been, lots of value, but die instantly and do no damage, even to the units they’re supposed to be good at. I’d prefer windchargers.
Ballista- avoid, maybe niche, they have 1 utility shot, and they are long range, but the damage is about the same as (usually worse) 10 sentinels, with no mortal wounds, 100 points would put them in niche, but I’d rather a wizard unit that can give itself commands than a model that will probably do no consequential damage. Full rework needed
Bladelords- high strong, maybe awesome, I too lament the loss of their banner ability, otherwise solid unit, I agree with basically all you’d said, a little points drop and they would indeed be awesome, one of our few possible hammers.
Banner blade- Strong, not sure why you’re so down on this guy, maybe it’s just a difference in play styles, RR charges is awesome, super cheap hero with a 3+ save, the MW bomb is meh and usually doesn’t go off, but it’s always good to have a non wizard hero, and a cheap one at that, I think he is really perfect for what he costs and what he does.
Lord regent- Solid, this is actually a surprise, I do agree with your points for the most part, but the spell has real value and he actually does damage, so yea still solid for me unless you aren’t going vanari heavy.
E&E- niche, I do love these guys, but their teleport ability is asinine, and being dependant on battle round kills them for me, also being unique and Illiatha locked hurts them as well, beautiful models tho. They can be really good, but usually only after the battle is over.
Eltharion- Awesome, straight up the best unit, especially after his buffs, just incredible in every way, and is a distraction carnifex, you basically send him out to die, but not before slaying the enemies key units, keep him buffed with speed of Hysh and within protection, and you’ll be wiping out entire units at a time, but weight of dice is his enemy so watch out there.
Teclis- strong, I haven’t and don’t plan to use teclis, but I still think he is great, yes now he has more counters, but still a lynchpin of the army and is reliable, which is a word that you can’t use with a lot of our units, he also has a big base with big auras, and gives amazing buffs, he isn’t an auto include, but is still a powerhouse in our army. Outside of this GHB he will go back up. His role has changed this GHB for sure.
Calligrave- Solid, not the worst caster, but a cheap shrine guardian is always valuable, decent abilities but mostly just a shrine guardian.
Loreseeker- Solid, understandable niche. I have come to really enjoy him, he can still teleport and blizzard, but is a good distraction piece, very much too expensive tho.
Cathallar- Strong, one of the few ways to mitigate bravery, and darkness of the soul is great, a very good caster hero.
Enlightener- awesome, basically an auto include, potential to double cast a spell (I roll a 1 for that ability 95% of the time) can be a triple caster as well, basically our perfect scinari hero.
Fox- strong, the best hero sniper, can get in, snipe and then get out, with great abilities, shame they lost their symbiosis ability, would love that back.
Severith- awesome- just a better fox
Windmage- niche, maybe solid, He has good lore spells, is a fast hero that synergises with the wind chargers.
Windchargers- strong, better dawnriders role wise, pretty amazing in helon, fun movement tricks, might not be wizards, but for fast skirmish they are amazing.
Stoneguard- Strong, the buff really brought them up and I’m comfortable bringing them outside of Ymetrica, if only we didn’t have to fight tooth and nail for battle line options. Slow movement and still need a lot of baby sitting.
Cow- Strong, damage dealer, monster, good all rounder, doesn’t hit as hard as it should.
Avalenor- awesome, just a better cow in every way. Sig is worried about to wound, but it balances out with the fact he gets mortal wounds.
Stonemage- strong, can’t run any alarith units without her.
Lyrior- solid, better than a regular regent for the most part. Your arguments about him are valid, but they also apply to the generic version, he does have one Ymetrica buff tho, and there is no reason that he can’t be Ymetrica, but makes no sense for him to be in Alumnia.
Endless spells- solid, they are spells, they work, rune is best, then twinstones then sanctum, no strong opinion on them.
Myari and his purifiers- niche, a fun goon squad that can annoy your enemy. He wouldn’t be Zaitrec because him and his troops are from Ymetrica.
Shrine- awesome, auto include, just free CP, doesn’t need a guardian, but also increases the range of spells and auras of the guardian, and also can be used to block enemies.
Battletome- niche or avoid, book itself is confused what it wants to be, we have horde quality units with elite level points and buffs, it kind of killed my love for the faction and I have dropped it for a while.
Thanks for your kind words, Hades. I'll have to check your rundown at home. I don't agree with some of what I've seen, but I spotted several good points as well.
Also big thanks for you the timestamps. I'll include them in the description.
@@strategoi all G, I was very surprised that some of our picks were flipped from what they usually are, take lord regent for example, but thank you for this video, you’ve reignited my interest in the faction.
Thanks for the video! 💙 It's always exciting to hear players talk in depth about their favorite faction.
As a new player, I'm hesitant to take the Lumineth as my first army. I'm afraid the army will be a bit difficult to play and paint.
I'm also a bit disappointed that there aren't many different builds possible. It would have been nice to have 1 Vanari build, 1 Hurakan build, 1 Alarith build & 1 Scinari build...
One day, maybe? :)
Would you recommend the Lumineth as your first army? I've only done a few initiation games and I've never done any painting.
The other factions I'm hesitating with are the Elven factions: Sylvaneth, Idoneth, Daughters of Khaine.
Thanks for your kind words!
Honestly, all those armies are kind of tough. DoK is probably the easiest, but sylvaneth are the only army with more than two competitive builds.
I know it's a cliche, but go with the army you like the look of. Lumineth aren't as tough to paint if you just paint their entire armour one colour, rather than paint gold trim on all of them. 👍 Rules wise they're challenging, but khorne and sylvaneth are that too. You can do it! There must be something that's attracting you about that playstyle, right?
@@strategoi Thanks for the reply! I have a few questions about the playstyles of these armies. I took the liberty of joining your Discord to ask these questions in a more appropriate place. :)
See ya there!@@Halion--
Maybe a bit late to mention, but I would love to see a video that's 5 minutes each of whether you feel each matchup is favoured/unfavoured and a quick discussion of the biggest problems and ways around them in each. (or in the most common?)
That's a great idea. I've mulling over such a series, but have never gotten to it. Shirt videos might actually be a good way for me to do it, since that's the only thing I can make time for these days.
I would like to see the rune of scentoid build. Currently assembling models, so the help is appreciated.
Planning it as we speak, so stay tuned!
Hey! You talked alot about having two cows (avalanor and spirit) and a sentoi build. How would you go about that list ?
Or just one cow.
This was worth 2 hours of my time, even though I already pretty much felt the same about all the units already.
Very happy to hear it! And also glad we're on the same page!
Anything you thought different about?
@@strategoi Well, I guess I had kind of dismissed Calligrave tbh. But I watched your Senthoi video and running 2 makes more sense.
Any chances of a Tzeentch tier list?
I love it... something good... spam it... gets nerfed... because of said spamming... now it suuuuuckss... Im so glade im not a tournament player. Must be fun lmfao...
And here I was trying to get into Lumineth, and wanted to bring 2x 20 Sentiels + Lord Regent and Wardens + maybe ballista, didn't need to be best competative list but still decent, but like with how you say Sentinels have no role at all more or less, I'm now kinda not sure I wanna start LRL even :(
If you like the look of something, just give it a go. They still put out quality damage but without being able to target Heroes, it's tough. But if you're really into an army or build, just go for it. Maybe it makes a comeback,
A part of the reason is the recursion meta. You need really strong damage for it to be relevant. Chip DMG is useless besides AOE Chip DMG on a low bravery army.
@@nikjkeenan2866 yeah, I dislike how BURST damage focused AoS has become, especially thanx to all armies having super healing and regen models or whole units comming back, it's no longer like 1 army doing it decent and 2-3 having weak recovery / recursion, it's more like 4-5 with decent and 3-4 armies with great recursion.
I'm really hoping for AoS 4.0 beeing a reset edition, complete restart like some 40k editions have been.
Well, it's a list.
Hm?