Chaos Rising - Tarkus Betrayal
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- "What power could be worth betraying us all?"
"The power to save you."
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Music: Umizaru - The Last Message - Track 5 and Track 8
I love how Cyrus got protective of Thaddeus when Tarkus gave him an order. Like shielding your younger brother from a confusing and horrible influence.
Thaddeus was most likely trained by Cyrus back when he was a scout. And Cyrus will ruin the day for anyone who messes with his boys.
cyrus is very protective of everyone he trained so thaddeus is probably one of his rekruits
your*
recruits*
Aww! That's Heartwarming!
Thaddeus is the youngest of the bunch so there's a good possibility Cyrus was the one who trained him when he was a scout.
_"He addresses that accursed bolter."_
_"Pathetic."_
*Item drop appears next to the body*
Commander: _"Hahah... yeah....... pathetic..."_
*Snatches the bolter when no one's looking*
+Knight Solaire Bloody magpies.
Knight Solaire
Blood ravens -_-
*Uses the weapon*
"I did it to save you".
In the end, this is the saddest betrayal for me. Tarkus was the first Marine to join the Commander during the Tyranid campaign, an example for everyone. And even after falling under the influece of the warp bolter, his intention was to protect his former brothers. Such is the twisted way of corruption: using the best of you against yourself.
Such is the way of Corruption. The Road to hell is laid with good intentions.
Evil Tarkus spent the whole time talking to the team telling them what the Black Legions were doing, then he shot all of black legions present…..
To be fair Tarkus is under the thrall of the demon in the bolter so he is mostly still sane and himself, however he is not the one in control.
You have to admit, a bolter capable of destroying a dreadnought with one salvo is a pretty damn good weapon! :D
too bad its completely useless against the righteous
That is the thing about daemonic weapons, they are incredibly powerful tools. However the daemon inside is not a willing participant, nor would they ever consider partnership with a mortal. They will do everything in their power to undermine their wielder's mind to the point that it is the daemon who chooses what dies. Even if this takes millennia, creatures of the Warp have the luxury of time as they are effectively eternal.
Tarkus' betrayal is perhaps the greatest of them all. The rest of the squad spend the mission in rage and denial, dismissing him as a mere heretic and trying to cut the feed. In the end, Tarkus hits harder not because of what he did, but who he was. Even *Avitus* looked up to him. If Tarkus could fall, what hope do the rest have?
What hope does any of humanity have if even their first and brightest fall through no fault of their own into the jaws of Chaos?
+MetalSlimeHunt Wow... that is actually very well said.
+MetalSlimeHunt If Horus can fall, anyone can.
+M Korda well Horus was kinda sabotaged wasn't he? By some Nurgle sword and then a lodge did the rest. So not entirely his fault.
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) The sword wounded him, and the lodge hand him to the witches. But he made his final decision alone, he spoke a lot about philosophy, what is right or wrong, and their future with his brothers (primarchs and marines), and it was not the sword who hurted his mind, but his past choices, his thoughts and ruminations, and acts he went through who made him. At the end, he hated himself, and he hated Erebus for what he have done, but thought it was the better thing to do, even if it was wrong.
He was really convinced that his father was evil (without knowing it himself), and really planned to be a god. He didn't know that the future he preview was the result of his acts.
And the lodge only concern was to save their primarch, no matter what (some of them disagree, that was the first schism between them).
Horus was deceived, he is a victim, just like the lodge and a lot of traitors, who followed their primarch for loyalty, friend and comradeship, sense of justice.... or others reasons (Magnus -betreyed- and Alpharius/Omegon -forced to join Chaos to save the Imperium-).
Still, some of them were just fuckers who betrayed the emperor by greed, selfishness, fear for the future/peace. As Erebus (traitor n¨°1).
+M Korda Trying to sympathize with the enemy is heresy Korda. Report to the nearest Commissar. If you are the nearest Commissar, report to your bolt pistol.
"With combat knife, boltgun, and grenade, the space marine will assail his foe!"
"The chainsword is the will of the space marine made manifest!"
"The space marine shall master all weapons! And all battlefields!"
"When harried the space marine shall drive his enemies back!"
"The space marine.... Shall never know defeat..... Only...."
Theres just something so tragic about Tarkus quoting the codex at you even while wearing the colors of chaos. Tarkus, the best of the them, had his conviction to serve the imperium turned against him by the temptation of dark power. The very weapon the space marine is gifted to combat the forces of darkness, their determination to eradicate the foes of the imperium, became his downfall. He saw others fall to corruption before him, but in convincing himself it was the only way, he belived he could resist the abyss. He was wrong. Yet even in the clutches of evil itself he spouts lines from the codex, even then he strives to be a model space marine. A tragedy as old as time.
So sad
The irony is that as a tactical marine sergeant, he turned to a tool instead of to his squad. The game implies he was corrupted by the Blighted Bolter, which is ridiculously powerful, but there’s no doubt that Tarkus was perfectly effective without that bolter. He failed to see the Space Marine as the ultimate weapon as indicated by the Codex, not the tool the Space Marine wields. His quoting of the Codex is as so deluded it’s almost comical. It’s the Space Marine, not the bolter, that shall never know defeat.
@@jonalethirenicus8334really this is because Tarkus has his brain clouded by the demon in the bolter, he thinks or is lead to to be more accurate that he is still doing his duty to the imperium, that nothing really changed. Thats why he sounds so unchanged at first glance.
Being possessed by wargear, then continuing to perform the codex to the letter. That's just... heartbreaking :(
intboom "He fights you still, Bolter!"
Tarkus himself isnt evil in the traditional 40k sense, but rather in a very small tightrope gray area.
@@wholesome_masochist4113not even that, he is almost the same, he is a thrall as in he is not in control of his actions.
"That weapon is tainted with the warp, Tarkus!"
Says the fucking Librarian.
Isn't the warp is the manifest of the thoughts of the living? I'm sure it has bad and good sides.
mstrblik Clusterfuck? Like sending a 120 million sized imperial guard army against a tyranid invasion?
Force feeding of tyranids.
gtgoskate Yes but it was meant so the Psykers would not be put out to things like fighting with daemons or getting corrupted because of the cruelty of the battlefield.
But these Psykers are not naturals. Every choosen man for inniation is a normal man.
They might be strong or specially willfull, but still just man.
After they get their geneseeds, there is a low chance that they become a psyker.
Thats what Blood Ravens were supposed to be about. Like they turned back from the chaos or sth like this, so their geneseeds have a special connection to the warp. Such as they have a pretty big number of psykers.
The Emperor itself is not just a great psyker, but it seems that through ten-thousand years he kept the Imperium together.
Terra itself stands in the doorway of a warpstorm so big, that if it were to swallow Terra, a new Eye of Terror were to be ripped into the galaxy. It seems that the Emperor keeps Terra from falling into it.
Also the Astronomican, which can only be maintained by the Emperor seems to be still working because of the Golden Throne.
Though it is known that it worked even when the Emperor was not present, it is possible that it worked because of Malcador the Hero.
The Inquisitors can't just kill Space Marines. This is also a kind of grey area. It is known that sometimes the Inquisitors 'dicks' or overthink things and cause exterminations. But they can't with Space Marines. They are all brothers and if it were to happen to only one, then the whole chapter were to turn against the Inquisition. Such were to happen, than a rebellion would commence, which would lead to a war inside the Imperium and between Chapters. Which would make the chaos win.
The Inquisitors are all human except the Grey Knights. The Librarians are Space Marines. They are ten-feet tall (3meter) and they can run faster than sprinters in their armors. They also have physic abilities. If an Inquisitor were to attack a Librarian, than he would be killed on sight because of betrayal, probable corruption, and chaos mendling.
But! Based on how strong a newly discovered natural psyker is, they sometimes kill on sight. Because of the hive worlds (human), some planet has hundreds of millions soul on it. Humans have a low chance of having psykers but with such numbers its not even rare. Each planet yields an Alpha type of psyker every two or third generation.(50-100y). Which is the rarest type under the Emperor. They are killed on sight, because they can destroy millions if in distress, or open hundreds of warpgates if they feel themself in danger. Sorrowfully they are mostly discovered after a trigger effect is innitiated making the recruiting impossible and the assassination damn hard. In these cases, sometimes even the Space Marines are deployed.
gtgoskate Yeah, thats why I liked Blood Ravens so much. It's like, our Primarch might be with the chaos now, it is possible that most of our brothers are corrupt and fallen, but we still serve the Emperor! And for the side of the Emperor we will always return!
Also I love the Lamenters too. Good guys.
"Explain yourself, Tarkus! What power could be worth betraying us all?"
"The power to save you..."
I think the saddest thing about this is that he says 'we'.
Even though he's addressing the bolter... I still get the willies... with part of me thinking that he's addressing (what was once) his fellow marines... still thinking they would work with him, still thinking that they might side with them... and the resultant coldness that happens when they deny him by saying that he is addressing the bolter, and not them.
It's as if they're denying him by not even acknowledging the request.
Agreed the worst thing about betrayal is that it's not from an enemy
Wrong, he adresses the demon in the bolter.
Always find Tarkus' betrayal the most saddening
For me it's Jonah, because it's not even his fault in his case.
Kyras directly sold his life and soul away by giving that Daemon the access rites for his Psychic Hood, and Jonah was forced to watch as it hijacked his body and betrayed everything he stood for.
But even then, he kept fighting and doing what he could to protect his brothers, even if that meant letting himself die and maybe getting dragged into the Warp with his possessor to be tormented for eternity.
What a trooper.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
true my friend true, but sometimes it starts with good intentions but these can turn fast into something horrible without you wanting to
@@storyteller8772 ...that's the point...
@@storyteller8772 That's literally what that quote means
>TARKUS POSTING
One bolter to rule them all.
Fighting against my favourite character, the one who I used in every single mission in both Dow 2 and chaos rising, the one who even in his betrayal still tries to help and save me, while replying the codex?
No, I can't, I simply can't...
Where did you get that bolter Commander?
It was gifted to our chapter
''With combat knife,boltgun and grendade,the Space Marine shall ashail his foe'' !!
Epic !!
"The chainsword is the will of the space marine made manifest."
Tarkus, may the Emperor forgive you...
MarcusSpetim The Space Marine shall master all weapons, and all battlefields!
This and Avitus were the best betrayals.
mstrblik Subtlety itself. Should tell you how far he fell...
@@Pallyrulez The Space Marine...shall know no defeat....
3:21, when the music start´s to get higher and higher, and the force commander simply roar´s, and the fight start´s. That is exactly, the esence of any Warhammer moment i wanted to see. Thank you so much, for making this Cheney.
Damn Tarkus and avitus are the best betrayals
Avitus: He saw what the universe really was, grow tired of this existence of bloodshed and lies and how corrupted the "good guys" can be .
Tarkus: he was deseperate using a cursed bolter he tried destroy the black legion and saving his bother he was still loyal to his ideals. Using bad for good. Damn sad
The others ?
Cyrus: pissed off cause no one listen the old fart scout sargeant
Thaddeus: got manipulated like an idiot
Jona: got possessed. Sucks to be psycher who survived the hive mind but not a deamon
Martellus: just because YOU trie to keep all your squad pure ( cause they are all usefull )
Commander Hairgel: Not enough L'oréale gel supplies
Tarkus and Avitus make me sad.... Avitus in particular, his history is very dark and awfull, I am still asking how he could serve the Emperor all this time ......
I argee brothers. May the Emperor see redemption for thoss two.
I personnaly like Thaddeus's betrayl. He is a young space marine, who still think he is an invisible hero like his religious instructors told him. He is naive, and this was the opportunity the chapter master used to get to him, to control him
don't you mean Boreale gel supplies
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Jonah sounds quite sad
Because Tarkus was a good Blood Raven and yet he falls to the Ruinous Powers of Chaos.
@@micaelchinatsumaki4446 Not really. He didn't really pull a falgrim, but rather he was using the power of chaos for a good intention.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 Well it's true that Tarkus intention was good but using the powers of Chaos will always turns you evil. It's only a matter of time of how long can Tarkus resist the other temptations of Chaos.
@@micaelchinatsumaki4446 Holy shit, you responded a helluva lot quicker than I thought. However, since the chaos entity in question is nurgle (given that you fight a great unclean one in the next chapter, pretty sure robin Williams would be gotten a kick out of that if you know what I mean) nurgle generally corruots people in the aftermath of a big thing. He also plays the waiting game. Take mortarion and the death guard as an example of that. He's almost never the in your face type with corruption unless its big or someone important. If it was khorne or perhaps tzeenetch pulling the strings here, I could understand Tarkus turning so fast as to be killed on the spot like that. Why Tarkus wasn't simply turned over to a chaplain or 10 is beyond me here. He clearly still loathed chaos despite being a traitor from the beginning of the dlc. Since the blood ravens have the same flaw of the red thirst and black rage as the angels, either khorne or tzeenetch would pull that string. But nurgle wouldn't. Nor any agent of his.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 Okay I need to tell that Red Thirst and Black Rage are exclusive only to Blood Angels and its Successor Chapters. The Blood Ravens are not related to Blood Angels in fact there are many hints that Blood Ravens came from Thousand Sons. And as for Tarkus it's already too late to give him to the Chaplain because he's already corrupted by that Bolter that he is using to fight his fellow Blood Ravens in fact you can see Tarkus talking to his Bolter when he was defeated.
I think out of all the traitors, Tarkus might be the most likely to become a champion of Chaos Undivided. He shows an affinity with all four of the Chaos Gods, to some extent.
Tarkus fights honorably and valiantly in the name of a cause he believes is just, like many warriors of Khorne. But Tarkus strives constantly for self-improvement; he cannot merely be good, he must be perfect. He wants to be the one to save the chapter and set things right, and if the cost is his own damnation, then so be it. Such desires are the domain of Slaanesh. He fears losing himself, losing his battle-brothers and losing his chapter, and he is willing to do anything to prevent that from happening; such fears are how the minions of Nurgle rally devotees to their cause. Tarkus follows a path of ambition, he wants to find a way out of a seemingly unwinnable scenario, and he wants to assert control over an ever-changing and chaotic universe, which is exactly what Tzeentch promises; the power to bring change and progress, and to find hope where there was none.
All of the Chaos Gods offer raw power in exchange for your immortal soul. Tarkus would give anything, or pay any price, if the Chaos Gods would only help him save his battle-brothers. Each and every one of the Chaos Gods can exploit that in their own way. They all have their own means to turn a shining paragon into a twisted parody of their former selves.
And Tarkus has made his choice; to save his battle-brothers, he is willing to become the embodiment of that which he hated most. And so, in time, he would likely be just like Araghast, or Eliphas. A proud, brutal, unrepentant champion of Chaos Undivided, seeking to "save" his battle-brothers by freeing them from their slavery to the False Emperor, destroying the wretched corpse sitting upon the Golden Throne, and ushering in a new golden age for humanity, backed by the Ruinous Powers. And then, if Tarkus must slay his battle-brothers to save them from their wretched fate, down to the last man, then so be it. Until he finally dies at the hands of his former brothers, his ambitions unfulfilled, his soul reduced to a plaything of the Dark Gods forever. Or he is among the "lucky" few to ascend to a Demon Prince, his will bound to the Chaos Gods, forced to enact their dark whims for all eternity; his mind, body, and soul no longer his own. Such is the fate of every Space Marine who foolishly deals with the Ruinous Powers.
Funnily enough, his Corruption tree is themed after Nurgle more than anyone else.
I love how u mentioned the 4 dark gods which makes sense selling his own soul and loyalty to the emperor for his chapter and brothers in Blood Ravens
@@jacksimpson8529 Which makes sense; the lore for the Blighted Bolter suggests it was infected by a daemon during the battle of Victory Bay, which just happens to be the place the Guard overloaded and destroyed a Hellstorm cannon containing a gun-infesting Nurgle daemon...
Off all the treasons Tarkus' is perhaps the saddest.The way he kept trying to keep in touch with his space marine ideals while his friends tried to kill him is really well directed.
I almost tear up at the very end, when Tarkus says "Why are you abandoning me??" to the bolter... The way he delivers that line really shows how much that weapon had deluded him, making him think he was genuinely doing right... :'(
"Explain yourself, Tarkus! What power could be worth betraying us all?!"
"The power to save you."
The greatest exchange in Dawn of War II: Chaos Rising
This is perhaps the best written scenario. Martellus' betrayal made the most sense to me though. Crashes, survives for a year, happens to make contact during the Black Legion crisis....ya don't say..
What about Avitus' betrayal?
The problem is that you only find the traitor because Martellus helps you.
The final mission reads as the traitor's final act to leave the squad. The character is gone before the reveal. Martellus not helping for any reason would arguably blow his cover immediately. Further, this isn't the first or last time a spy or traitor will do things to help investigators in the short term while banking on the time such actions provide. I'd also point to the game itself to say few of the scenarios are well written...
I mean that finding the traitor is only POSSIBLE because Martellus helps you.
It's one thing that, for example, Martellus tells the others that the codes used to mask the traitor are very similar to those of the chapter honor guard. It's another that he tells them about the logic engine aboard the judgement of carrion that no one else knows about and would prove extremely dangerous to reach.
@@HalfTangible the only thing i can think that would make sense is that he was possed and didnt know of his own actions
Avitus: Silence! Enough trolling with the codex in service of the enemy!
Jonah: That weapon is tainted with the troll,Tarkus! (and yes i just commented to a 7 month comment cause for the sake of doing it)
Spess Marine You deserve a medal.
CptDavian Thule it's not in vain. There are people in the future reading these comments.
Very well.
@@Nozofeir responding 7 months old comment? get on my level
At least Tarkus had good Intentions, and i am not shure if he really adressed that Weapon with his last words either : /
He did adress the weapon, the demon within it.
Even as a heretic, Tarkus serves the Emperor, one way or another.
Even when Tarkus falls to Chaos, he's still helping his comrades. He never insulted them, never try to tide them over...Tarkus is still true blue..err..red Space Marine.
Tarkus was never a traitor, he was always THAT GUY.
Force commander "Cough Cough" Any one call dibs on that bolter"
Jonah "But its tainted with the warp"
Force commander"I really don't give a fuck it one shoted a chaos dreadnought"
Then they all kill each other
2:50 THE FEELS.
I felt so sorry slaying tarkus.
This is the most emotional betrayal, and most well made in my opinion, though Avitus betrayal was well made too.
I used to think the same, but now I rank Tarkus betrayal as best, and Jonah second best. Avitus is overrated and the rest is forgettable.
Tarkus hurt in so many ways, he was your first partner in arms from the start and pretty much your voice with you being a commander of few words. Losing any of your squad to chaos feels like losing a close friend, yet losing Tarkus feels like losing a brother.
2:26 I love this bit of dialogue so much. Tarkus is like a calm and collected father to the group, and even when they are facing one another in battle he still cares deeply about them.
This dialogue gives a lot of depth and personality not just to Tarkus, but also to Thaddeus and Cyrus too.
Manly Tears are the only response to Tarkus still giving them orders and suggestions, like he wants them to succeed, regardless of your gender.
Men are only allowed to cry under certain circumstances
This one is one of those few circumstances
- Even in heresy, Tarkus is the best of the whole squad.
even though he's a heretic, Jonah still attempts to reason with Tarkus, to try to shake him from his temptation. everyone else is just hurt and angry, even Avitus, who seemed to hate everyone. its terribly sad.
Damn when that boltgun randomly appears when Tarkus dies....the developers just love to rub it in at the end; don't they? Look at what it does to the dreadnought and yet we never get to pick it up lol
Actually you can took me a while but I found out, if you hit the Window key and go to your desktop it will pause the cinematic. When you jump back into the game with it paused you can position your mouse over the gun and then hit F10 to unpause the game, then click where your mouse should be and you should pick up the gun. I have done this with other cinematics when guns or items have dropped and it seems to work.
Damocles178 kiljadaen Isn't it just the Blighted Bolter after you've "sold" it enough times to make it purple quality...?
Honestly cant remember. Been awhile since I had played Chaos Rising. Most of the time I play Retribution as the Orks so Is can bring all da Daka.
I actually though that every wargear dropped in the mission is already picked, no matter if you click it or not. I once tested this - didnt pick any single wargear, but still got them at the end.
A dropped wargear item is automatically added to the Mission Completed screen regardless of whether or not you're fast enough or capable of clicking on it before the end of the mission.
Tarkus' betrayal was somewhat similar to Isador's. Isador wanted to use the Maledictum for good but it didn't matter; his desire to use it was enough for Chaos to claim him as it's own. Tarkus was damned no matter what his intentions were. Whether the person had good or evil intentions Chaos can find ways to manipulate anyone for it's own purposes. This was a pretty deep betrayal :)
Tarkus doesn't even sound corrupted. He doesn't speak any crazy mombo-jambo.
Except that one part were he said “We gave you a chance”
Listening to him quoting the rules of the codex is inspiring!
"Old habits die hard"
that's the point when i laughed aloud, 'cause one of my friends described Tarkus as "a worn out Bruce Willis"
:D
Y'know, 'Tarkus' does actually mean 'wisdom' in Estonian.
*Picks Tarkus body up and walks from the field* He is still a Hero in my eyes and therefor a proper service is only right...despite his recent actions....;~;
To me, this is the most saddening boss fight, because he felt he was doing the right thing.
"We... Could have done so much, you an I-
Why are you anbandoning me?
Why?!?"
The dialogue is just superb, I really hope its just as dark and serious in the new game.
Yeeaahh.... about that...
@@Saidan79 hahahaha
wow I'm glad I watched the the betrayal vids.
adds tremendous depth to every character.
I have newfound respect for the storyboarders at Relic.
Tarkus when Avitus is the traitor: "You folly will weight heavily on me"
Avitus when Tarkus is the traitor: P A T H E T I C.
and thats why I never let Tarkus play with bolters anymore
Damn. Tarkus The good one :(
No, the best one
Thaddeus seems most affected by Tarkus' betrayal. Daddy Tarkus is bad dad
>turn subtitles on
>go to 0:32
+emirhan ekşioğlu So Avitus is in this....
+emirhan ekşioğlu 4:55 too
emirhan ekşioğlu turkish still has access to the vox channels
imho, Jonah's is the best. Not so much because of the way he behaves during the mission, but the fact that even at the end, Jonah was fighting against the demon.
But Tarkus' would be the most surprising. Like Thaddeus said, he was the best of them, and Tarkus even at the end is quoting the Codex Astartes.
I'll say it again, Dow 2 double campaign is a work of art.
its cool that cheney put some awesome tracks in the betrayel vids of any brothers that fit them pretty well like this one awesome job !!
You never thought he adressed the last phrase to avitus?
The canon traitor, why are you abandoning me.... Nothing suspicious?
the way he says ''we gave you a chance'' gives me the chills
was he really talking to the boulter? Or perhaps the Emperor himself?
Maybe he was talking to his squad mates?
'This wasn't very Puritan of you Tarkus.'
'Pppft, Renegade for life.'
If only Tarkus actually knows how Chaos works. Just because he gave himself now does not mean the Chaos Gods will leave the Blood Ravens alone. Especially if Tzeentch needs a new pawn/slave/plaything to manipulate and finds it with the Blood Ravens, which makes Tarkus' sacrifice to "save the chapter" pointless.
Stupid mistake, but to be fair, nobody who ever walked that moral grey area characters like Tarkus or mortarion walk are ever allowed to live long enough to actually show their true colors. Mortarion himself along with the death guard were pretty much tortured by nurgle the entire time they were in the warp, and since it was the death guard, nurgle had to break them down piece by piece. Wasn't easy for either end. Even now mortarion hates what he became, and at one point even helped out gulliman if im not mistaken.
Tarkus betrayal was, along with Avitus', my "favorite" of all.
Tarkus motives were emotional, we was willing to support them all along, even as a Chaos-tainted one. This is proven when he killed the Black Legion Marines behind him and quoting the codex. He even gave Thaddeus orders how to beat him, showing he doesn't want to be the traitor, but ultimately found a way to support them at it's best.
(Reason for Avitus follows shortly.)
Looking through all the betrayals this one is by far the saddest and most impactful in my opinion.
Cyrus: I am deactivating the-
*pause*
Jonah: Wait!
How, abrupt.
Seeing Tarkus betrayal, Im convinced that no matter what good deeds you do, wr will only go to hell as theres always something that will tempt us to stray away from the right path just to find a way to do good things.
Tarkus Was, is and will always be the BEST of the blood ravens...
Thank the god-emperor he is not the canonical traitor
Thaddeus did say "Tarkus was always the best of us."
One of the saddest moments i've ever had in an RTS game. Beating tarkus to death with assault terminators buffed with might of the ancients. He never stood a chance.
Tarkus became Arthas.
I added a link where you can download them in the video description.
"For the power to do what is best, he (Kyras) is willing to become that which he hates."
This is kinda cringe-worthy when you consider Kyras let a planet get nuked to become a daemon, which is as selfish as one can get. One of the reasons Tarkus is the least-believable traitor and should stay loyal till the end.
+pihip He is still under the notion that Kyras is retreating the blood raven out of the sub sector to preserve them from fighting the black legion, where in reality he wants the whole Aurelian sub sector to be consumed by Ulkair as a tribute.
+Qiu Shuang It makes no sense for a loyal Chapter Master to avoid fighting Chaos Space Marines. One could say a reason could be that the Blood Ravens got their backs broken at Kaurava and so are shorthanded, but even then, that sounds fishy. Also, Kyras enlisted the aid of Ulkair to escape from the Judgment of Carrion - he worships Khorne, not Nurgle, as Retribution shows. Which is also bullshit since a Librarian worshipping Khorne makes no sense.
+pihip how it is Bullshit? Khorne has psykers who using only their mind to attack enemies without charging powers from the warp and khorne and kyras didnt used his warp power only his own mind and khorne accepts everything what is not trought the warp used
+Neroth Khorne has no psykers. The world eaters killed all their librarians after they turned against the Imperium.
+Magic Medic Actually, a few Librarians remained even after the World Eaters turned traitor, but they were shunned and despised because their presence caused pain in other legionnaires due to the Butcher's Nails (also, Librarians either died or went mad with the Nails, and many were lost that way). Angron finished the job when he was turned into a Daemon Prince, he massacred them himself.
Maaan, such a good music choice.
3:25 You'd think Isador Akios would be a watchword for this sort of thing, how you can't just *use a power of chaos for good. You'd think a post-Tartarus campaign briefing would have the Blood Ravens think, "Yeah, let's not be THAT guy."
I guess it's like the military in RL. No matter how many "don't be that guy" briefings, there's always going to be that guy.
One of the painful parts of this is that Tarkus *agrees* with a lot of the insults thrown at him.
@manwiththemachinegun Umizaru - The Last Message - Tracks 5 and 8
To be fair Tarkus is under the thrall of the demon in the bolter so he is mostly still sane and himself, however he is not the one in control. Thats why Tarkus compared to others sounds barely changed and good intentioned but the mask comes off a few times like "we gave you a chance" watch how he says it.
Yeah this is the best, most moving version of this mission i have seen so far.
So Tarkus fall was the same way Fulgrim fell.
A Daemon Weapon corrupted him.
Tarkus falls to corruption
Avitus: Now we are devastated, brothers.
I really don't think he was ever speaking to the bolter. I think he was speaking of his brothers whenever he said 'we'. It's heartbreaking when he laments being abandoned but none of his brothers even know his anguish and sorrow is for them. Maybe they have an inkling deep down, and fear that acknowledging it will drive them to tje bottomless pits of despair.
that music, and tarkus being a traitor is enough to make a space marine cry
This is the path I got on my first playthrough, right after having played through Dawn of War II and getting attached to all of the characters. As a result, I found this to be one of the most emotional levels in any recent computer game. I readily admit that I got a little choked up when Tarkus started quoting the Codex Astartes during the final battle. The writing in Chaos Rising is probably the best out of the Dawn of War series.
"What power could be worth betraying us all?"
"The power to save you."
Who the fuck is cutting onions right now???
When he betrayed me on the campaign I was like "NOOO! I F**KING NEEDED YOU!"
Glad that to see he actualy not corrupted in Retribution
You know, I always thought that Blandy McBlandbland here was always kind of endearing in his blandness, like he was the really stable guy you could always count on, regardless of his lack of flair. His betrayal really does have an impact.
I was gonna play, full coruption campaign but now i wont....
Tarkus was still convinced he served the Imperium as the Daemon in the Bolter tempted him with the power to save those he cared about but of course Tarkus remained oblivious to the fact he was now a puppet of chaos. That's why Tarkus doesn't sound corrupted like the others as he didn't willingly forsake the Imperium and wanted to fight for it.
Get the feeling Tarkus is just trolling when he keeps calling you up and giving advice and hearing Avitus and Cyrus flip their shit.
The first time I played this, I had no idea anyone but Martellus could betray you. I did everything in my power to remain pure, but I got choked up the first time I saw this and Thaddeus' betrayal. Thaddeus was right in saying Tarkus was always the best of the squad and the strictest adherent to the Codex. Thaddeus was the youngest and most naive member of the squad, so it was painful to think I might have had to put him down if I'd made different decisions.
Tarkus: Blood Ravens it's not too late. Leave me be and i will set matters right.
Thaddeus: how with the Black Legion at you're back
Tarkus: I have the power i need in my very hands.
Kills all chaos soldiers
Commander: OKAY, you don't have to say anything else. That freaking Bolter is powerful enough to destroy a dreadnought with one shot im not dealing with that Bullshit. We are leaving.
Everyone else (except for Tarkus): But..
Commander:NO BUT'S, that bolter destroyed a dreadnought with one shot, ONE SHOT do you understand.
3:52 “We gave you a chance” I just noticed how his voice changes with that and it’s actually really creepy. It isn’t just him speaking there.
I'd say that Tarkus had better acting. You can actually feel him being torn between the two extremes, and the desperation in his quotes from the codex.
Out of all of the betrayals...Tarkus is the most tragic.
Tarkus never wanted to betray the FC, he just wanted to "accept" more "gifts" from the black legion
Tarkus is the saddest betrayal in the game. He is still loyal to his bitter death
Yea I agree, Tarkus's betrayal is the most impacting. :(
If you read the dialogue you'll get an idea why. Martellus says I think that when he got shot down, Chaos found him and he sided with them as the space marines in his view abandoned him but I honestly can't remember.
That is the best Betrayal very sad when a Brother think he can save his Battle Brothers with these power ;(
I'm amazed how the Chaos forces didn't see the giant metal drop pod falling from the sky, or hear the countless explosions/gunfire
Must be all the warp matter in their ears.
Maybe why they have to always scream at each other.