I hate the PLA poop, but stating that there's no use for it is not really true. There are DIY extruders to turn scrap back into filament, or you can use it as fill for molds. Obviously neither will be a clean pure colour anymore (unless you deliberately blend them) but that can be a good thing and actually work well. I expect to see more competitors in the multi-material printing space out over the next few years, as all the current systems have at least one significant issue.
I have an mk3s+ and X1C with AMS. I never tried the palette but with the X1C and AMS the level of purge can be "justified" if you print multiple cloned items. As the purge is the same whether you print 1 or multiple items. I noticed in the video the purge block is rather large with the palette 3 pro. The Mk3s+ has a smaller build area and that purge block is taking up 10-15% of the plate. So that limits the number of items that can fit on the plate. I also have an unopened Ankermake M5 but Anker has a V6 color engine system in testing for the M5 that claims to reduce or eliminate purge which will be very interesting for multicolor prints.
That will be interesting to see. Yes, the palette leaves a purge tower on the print bed. There are other options for purge, but with the Prusa MK3/s/+, the tower seems to be the best choice. Mine is particularly big because I've done the work of experimenting to find the best transition lengths to make sure that there is no color bleed between the extremes of black to white, and this is the result of said experimentation.
For now, the palette 2 is the most reliable color changer out there. I have an issue with the fact that they could create this klipper machine but now the palette 3( which i would have totally bought) does NOT support klipper. They have no intentions of fixing things. Mosaic is in their grave after all this work….
I haven't been a huge fan of the P3 pro, I don't care for the slicer, and my color timing seems to vary print by print. Not to mention all the little flaws that come with using a system like this. I love the engineering of the P3 pro, but the implementation of the software is just not very user friendly and requires a lot of care and tweaking.
I would liken owning the P3 Pro to owning a dog. Dog trainers will tell you that in order to train the dog, you have to train the human. Spending almost a year with it now, I know what to do and what not to do. At this point, I find it to be 99% reliable in producing a good print. (Nothing is 100% in this game.) But I do agree with you that the software is total crap.
@@thisprintedthing7967 i got the palette pro 3 because I like surprises,, who does not love it when you print something for 1 hour or 30 hours and get random splice breaks, i like to set it up and place bets on how far into the print before it fails... every now and then it will complete something but even with the same settings and filament it would not complete a second one. 800 dollars is a barging for a device that can get your heart pumping every time you try to use it...
"They told me to print slower" - deal breaker. I've been printing for almost 10 years and have been waiting for the speeds that are here. Not going back to 55-65 mm/s.
True ‘dat. Actually thinking about retiring my P3P. It got me this far, but now I have 3 X1-Cs. The only downside is that I can’t run abrasives through the AMS. I’m willing to make that compromise. Wanna buy a P3P?
If you want to save filament, get a used palette+, RE gcode to create the splice color sequence, load groups of spliced filament(need to respool) in X1C AMS, then switch on material change and other tricky situations. Can easily RE palette+, since its plain gcode text. For X1C, need some workaround within BBS slicer. Just some 💭♥️👍
I think scripting gives you a chance to review and improve the presentation, which you did very well; I appreciate it. It would, however, help to have your unscripted summary regarding under which circumstances you choose to use one over the other. I'm about to spend a lot of money on my hobby, not my business!
I can sorta answer the question. Multi color printing with a single nozzle is VERY time consuming no matter which printer you use. on a Bambulab printer 20x20x20mm cube prints 1 color 9 min print 2 colors 16min 3 colors 20min That is color swaps at certain levels. If you are making multiple color changes per layer the print time explodes 2-3 min PER color change. The extra time is for cutting the filament, retract the filament, swap the color, purge out the "poopchute" then run to (optional) purge/prime tower. Accelerations back to the print is minimal. On a prusa just the 20x20x20mm cube print alone is 14 min then whatever the palette takes for swaps. ( i dont have a palette but I do have a mk3s+) For more complex prints the BL printers are 2-5x faster with single color prints. 50mm cubed takes 50 min on x1C 50mm cubed takes 1hr50min on Mk3s+ So after each color swap the Bambu printers are faster to print but each printer will be slowed due to color swaps. So technically the Bambu is faster but hobbled by color changes. What isnt mentioned in the video is the number of items printed. If you print multiple of the same items the purge is the same whether you print 1 or fill up the build plate. Also the reliability of the AMS cannot be understated. I have prints with tens to hundreds of swaps and it rocks on like a champ and I have had my printer for almost a year.
I Will wait until the Pursa MMU3 to go with my Mk4 had a X1C dam thing would not print right out of the box. with support non existed taking days to respond I sent it back
I have a Carbon X1C/AMS combo. Need to print TPU with/against CF/PETG or CF/ABS for gasket seals, grip surfaces, hinges, etc. The AMS will not print TPU and as you stated, abrasive filaments are not recommended in the AMS. Plus, I print the filament from inside a modified food dehydrator to reduce moisture contamination, which is also not possible with the AMS. So, was wondering your thoughts on pairing the X1C with the Pallet Pro 3 to achieve my goal. My pretty sure this can be done but was concerned about the time/trouble and software issues to get the configuration up and running. Or should I just wait, save the money/hassle on the Pallet, and purchase a Prusa XL with 5 tool changing heads.
With the Palette 3 Pro, you need to connect the printer to it via USB. I haven’t found a USB port on the X1C. I’ve had the same idea as you, but I don’t think they’ll work together. For what you need, it seems like the Prusa XL would be the way to go.
While you're waiting to upgrade to the Prusa XL, you could give the 3D Chameleon filament changer a shot. It can handle TPU and is compatible with Bambu printers. You'd be able to keep your filament inside your modified food dehydrator.
I am leaning to the bambu x1 carbon. I wonder if you can use the palette pro with the bambu in place of the AMS. That would be a weird mix. But i think I'll get the bambu, learn to use infill for the purge (or simply print multi color parts separate and then connect together in post -much faster too), then eventually build a voron and get a mosaic palette pro for the Voron. I'm guessing you mostly use the prusa and mosaic for multi color because it's faster and less waste?
I’ve had the same thought. I don’t see a way to make the palette and the Bambu work together. The Bambu doesn’t have a USB port that I’ve found to connect it to the palette. As far as waste amount, they’re close to the same. I find that I usually use a meter or two more on the palette. No, I usually only use the palette these days when the Bambu is already occupied, or when I need to print with abrasives.
You can most likely use abrasives in the AMS if you print feeder protectors with short ptfe tube and put them over your feeder tubes. This should alleviate the greatest wear on the system (the feeder funnels), with possible later wear on the extruder gears (which are metal) and plastic first stage feeder gears, but much less likely. It will likely increase maintenance on the AMS but should last a long time before needing this, given the feeders are now protected and the gears in the first stage can even be 3d printed.
i loved my prusa mk3s+ with the palette 2S with octoprint but then i bought the palette 3 pro and i hated it and regret i ever sold my palette 2S... i could not get the palette 3 pro timing right and i had a lot of experience with the palette 2S... so no more palette for me sorry mosaic im going for the bambu and already have the mmu2S working (needed lots of mods) so im very curious about the bambu hope i can buy it soon
Not really a contests, None of the palette products have work properly ever and the company Mosaic are a bunch of dodgy scammers..... Don't buy Mosaic products as they only kinda work and don't stand behind their product for warranty or even getting it to work at all.... Abrasives destroy the Palette Pro really quick as it cannot take any wear due to the tiny tolerances it only works within. The palette can only print at 1/10th the speed of the Bamboo, so even though the Bamboo needs to cut and purge the Palette simply can't print faster than about 60m/s if you don't want it to fail every colour change and this has been a problem since their first Palette 1 and has never been fixed. This means just about every print from the palette has the wrong colour used in it somewhere (if not every other layer) so you get less than 10% successful prints from Palette Pro and 99% success from the Bamboo and the Bamboo is still way faster. Joel sold out many years ago to Mosaic and is why he continues to promote a product that does not work, even his own videos shows it failing but he just skips over it....
I just found out about this product and I considered it over the Bambu printer. Then I saw the firmware was over a year old and a comment from a member of Mosaic staff said they are working on other things at the moment. They won't be getting my money with that kind of attitude. It's not like it has been finely tuned and needs no further work is it!
@Trevs-Shed well, it’s been out for a couple of years. My guess is that they’ve turned their attention to the next thing. It’s actually not a bad product as it is now. The only real problem that I’ve had with mine is when the splice core went out. One of the pogo pins on the back of the splice core had a worn out spring, so it wasn’t making good contact with the connector behind it. Not sure how that could have happened, since it’s not a part that frequently gets removed from the machine. But anyway, Mosaic replaced the part at no cost to me. The product really is good as it is now. You just have to know how to use it, how to tune the materials to splice well. Once that is accomplished, it’s fairly bullet-proof. But that being said, there is competition from Bambu, with easier technology to use. And Bambu has teased a product that they will fully announce in a few days that I think is going to eat Mosaic’s lunch, so to speak.
Hi Thanks for the reply. I almost bought a Bambu a few days ago but then saw their announcement. Hence the search that brought me here. I use pogopins on a programmer for some STM32 IC's, hard to see how the spring would wear out. @@thisprintedthing7967
@@Trevs-Shed company been like this from start, dodgy money grubbing liers who don't support or warranty their own products. Who on earth would be silly enough to buy mosaic over bamboo.....
I sold my AMS maybe I’ll buy again when they release version 2.0. It’s too finicky, wastes more filament then required to print and makes prints significantly longer. My next printer will be a prusa or k1. I’m sure I’ve offended all the bambu pumping fanboys
I'm actually a fanboy of both Prusa and Bambu. So no offense here. I know that my AMS is not the same as the AMS at the time of launch. I know that that AMS was riddled with bugs, both hardware and firmware. But this one that I have seems to be mostly solid. I do think they still have a road ahead of them, though, as far as development before I would bet my life on it.
I actually have a kick starter version of theX1C and AMS and it has been relatively trouble free. I did need to contact support to get a new main board because the new 1st stage feeders require an updated part. Took less than a week from contacting support to getting the part delivered. The one thing the ams has been great for is filament holder. Having 4 colors at the ready, dry and no need to manually feed filament paid for itself in convivence alone. It's one of the [many] reasons I don't use my mk3s+ as much. Speed being the main reason.
@@ashleys3dprintshop u must be one of the few lucky ones, I’ve heard morning but horror stories about the kickstarter version. And if u are using ams just as a filament holder, there are certainly cheaper better options. But if u don’t mind wasting more filament to print than the actual print itself ams will definitely help you accomplish that. Not worth it
@@irbose9895 I think you glossed over the point of me saying it holds my filament. lol 1 AMS holds 4kg worth of filament. I can use the AMS as a redundant backup if I run out of filament mid print. I don't need to touch it unless I run spools bare. So I can run a week without needing to manually load filament unless it's TPU or highly abrasive. I have thousands of filament changes and it works fine. That means my printer will cut, retract, load, purge then print it still works great almost a year in service. I take care of my machines so I perform general maintenance and check ptfe tubes, filament guides so I wont exactly think I am lucky or special. The AMS has a humidity sensor which gives an overall green/yellow/red indicator for moisture. I can check this from my phone or slicer. So from my personal experience it's extremely reliable and I would easily buy it again along with other BL printers. The MMU2 was terrible on the prusa machines (Fingers crossed that the mmu3 works well.) The palette 3 is very expensive($600 or $800) and requires bespoke implementations to work. (web browser to color prints) The Prusa XL multihead changer is vaporware to me unless it hits retail officially. It's been nearly 2 years and only the single head released to a very small, but passionate, customer base. Idex printers are limited to 2 filament types and have their own annoying drawbacks. The ERCF is a Frankenstein's monster looking for a mad scientist who needs to source, build, test, mod, tune, test again. (nero 3d shout out) Ankermake v6 may be an interesting option when it releases but its currently in testing with no official release date. There arent that many options for reliable multi material at a reasonable expense that "just works" outside of the Bambu implementation. Time will tell. /rant
@@ashleys3dprintshop writing an article with intent to pump in the comment section doesn’t change anything other than some possibly assuming you’re a paid pumping fanboy
Hey man, not tryna be a dick her, but I wanted to point something out in case you happen to be unaware: the presentation looked, sounded and felt like it was scripted. I imagine it is genuine, and you are the one who wrote the notes, but it was hard to watch because of how much it sounded like you were reading from your notes word for word instead of flowing with it like in a natural and dynamic conversation. And because of that, it made it sound disingenuous. I hope this is interpreted as constructive, I’m no troll.
I agree. There was a lot of solid info in this video that will most likely be lost by most people due to the monotone and scripted delivery. The transitions and visual content presentation was amazing, on par with top tier channels, they just need to work on the narration. I was honestly surprised to see that they have less than 100 subscribers. Subbing with the hope that the channel creater is able to make a few small tweaks to iron out the rough edges.
I hate the PLA poop, but stating that there's no use for it is not really true. There are DIY extruders to turn scrap back into filament, or you can use it as fill for molds. Obviously neither will be a clean pure colour anymore (unless you deliberately blend them) but that can be a good thing and actually work well. I expect to see more competitors in the multi-material printing space out over the next few years, as all the current systems have at least one significant issue.
I have an mk3s+ and X1C with AMS. I never tried the palette but with the X1C and AMS the level of purge can be "justified" if you print multiple cloned items. As the purge is the same whether you print 1 or multiple items.
I noticed in the video the purge block is rather large with the palette 3 pro. The Mk3s+ has a smaller build area and that purge block is taking up 10-15% of the plate. So that limits the number of items that can fit on the plate.
I also have an unopened Ankermake M5 but Anker has a V6 color engine system in testing for the M5 that claims to reduce or eliminate purge which will be very interesting for multicolor prints.
That will be interesting to see.
Yes, the palette leaves a purge tower on the print bed. There are other options for purge, but with the Prusa MK3/s/+, the tower seems to be the best choice. Mine is particularly big because I've done the work of experimenting to find the best transition lengths to make sure that there is no color bleed between the extremes of black to white, and this is the result of said experimentation.
Maybe toolchangers might be something you could look into to compare to the Palette and Bambu setup.
For now, the palette 2 is the most reliable color changer out there. I have an issue with the fact that they could create this klipper machine but now the palette 3( which i would have totally bought) does NOT support klipper. They have no intentions of fixing things. Mosaic is in their grave after all this work….
I haven't been a huge fan of the P3 pro, I don't care for the slicer, and my color timing seems to vary print by print. Not to mention all the little flaws that come with using a system like this. I love the engineering of the P3 pro, but the implementation of the software is just not very user friendly and requires a lot of care and tweaking.
I would liken owning the P3 Pro to owning a dog. Dog trainers will tell you that in order to train the dog, you have to train the human. Spending almost a year with it now, I know what to do and what not to do. At this point, I find it to be 99% reliable in producing a good print. (Nothing is 100% in this game.) But I do agree with you that the software is total crap.
Great video, exactly the info I was looking for.
I just got the P1P and AMS today. I was wondering about the palette pro, thanks for this!
You bet. Thanks for watching.
@@thisprintedthing7967 i got the palette pro 3 because I like surprises,, who does not love it when you print something for 1 hour or 30 hours and get random splice breaks, i like to set it up and place bets on how far into the print before it fails... every now and then it will complete something but even with the same settings and filament it would not complete a second one. 800 dollars is a barging for a device that can get your heart pumping every time you try to use it...
"They told me to print slower" - deal breaker. I've been printing for almost 10 years and have been waiting for the speeds that are here. Not going back to 55-65 mm/s.
True ‘dat. Actually thinking about retiring my P3P. It got me this far, but now I have 3 X1-Cs. The only downside is that I can’t run abrasives through the AMS. I’m willing to make that compromise. Wanna buy a P3P?
@@thisprintedthing7967 I might be interested in the P3P. I have an AnkerMake M5 that I'm thinking about a P3P for.
You can get a Bambu P1S for less than you can get the Palette 3 Pro by itself. That alone is a no-brainer to me and I'm a Prusa fanboy.
Well, now you can get an A1 with AMS Lite for $559. However, the P3P still has advantages over the Bambu stuff, like the ability to run abrasives.
If you want to save filament, get a used palette+, RE gcode to create the splice color sequence, load groups of spliced filament(need to respool) in X1C AMS, then switch on material change and other tricky situations. Can easily RE palette+, since its plain gcode text. For X1C, need some workaround within BBS slicer. Just some 💭♥️👍
Fantastic comparison. Thanks!!
Thx for sharing! I learnt something news in multi-color/material.
Really enjoyed this video. I’m going to see if the Palette works with the Raise3D Pro3
Hi, my work has a pro 3, were you able to get the palette to work with it?
This was a remarkable video
Thank you so much.
I think scripting gives you a chance to review and improve the presentation, which you did very well; I appreciate it. It would, however, help to have your unscripted summary regarding under which circumstances you choose to use one over the other. I'm about to spend a lot of money on my hobby, not my business!
I can sorta answer the question. Multi color printing with a single nozzle is VERY time consuming no matter which printer you use. on a Bambulab printer
20x20x20mm cube prints
1 color 9 min print
2 colors 16min
3 colors 20min
That is color swaps at certain levels. If you are making multiple color changes per layer the print time explodes 2-3 min PER color change. The extra time is for cutting the filament, retract the filament, swap the color, purge out the "poopchute" then run to (optional) purge/prime tower. Accelerations back to the print is minimal.
On a prusa just the 20x20x20mm cube print alone is 14 min
then whatever the palette takes for swaps. ( i dont have a palette but I do have a mk3s+)
For more complex prints the BL printers are 2-5x faster with single color prints.
50mm cubed takes 50 min on x1C
50mm cubed takes 1hr50min on Mk3s+
So after each color swap the Bambu printers are faster to print but each printer will be slowed due to color swaps. So technically the Bambu is faster but hobbled by color changes. What isnt mentioned in the video is the number of items printed. If you print multiple of the same items the purge is the same whether you print 1 or fill up the build plate. Also the reliability of the AMS cannot be understated. I have prints with tens to hundreds of swaps and it rocks on like a champ and I have had my printer for almost a year.
Trying so hard to hear you over the very distracting music choice. Really great review, though.
Great video, liked and Subscribed.👍
I Will wait until the Pursa MMU3 to go with my Mk4 had a X1C dam thing would not print right out of the box. with support non existed taking days to respond I sent it back
I have a Carbon X1C/AMS combo. Need to print TPU with/against CF/PETG or CF/ABS for gasket seals, grip surfaces, hinges, etc. The AMS will not print TPU and as you stated, abrasive filaments are not recommended in the AMS. Plus, I print the filament from inside a modified food dehydrator to reduce moisture contamination, which is also not possible with the AMS. So, was wondering your thoughts on pairing the X1C with the Pallet Pro 3 to achieve my goal. My pretty sure this can be done but was concerned about the time/trouble and software issues to get the configuration up and running. Or should I just wait, save the money/hassle on the Pallet, and purchase a Prusa XL with 5 tool changing heads.
With the Palette 3 Pro, you need to connect the printer to it via USB. I haven’t found a USB port on the X1C. I’ve had the same idea as you, but I don’t think they’ll work together. For what you need, it seems like the Prusa XL would be the way to go.
@@thisprintedthing7967 Thanks for the feedback.
While you're waiting to upgrade to the Prusa XL, you could give the 3D Chameleon filament changer a shot. It can handle TPU and is compatible with Bambu printers. You'd be able to keep your filament inside your modified food dehydrator.
@@nst1nct Co Print looks good too, Bit more Refinded then 3D Chameleon
You should really change your thumbnail. At first I thought it was a cheaply made ad until I saw no yellow bar.
Great comparison!!!
I am leaning to the bambu x1 carbon. I wonder if you can use the palette pro with the bambu in place of the AMS. That would be a weird mix.
But i think I'll get the bambu, learn to use infill for the purge (or simply print multi color parts separate and then connect together in post -much faster too), then eventually build a voron and get a mosaic palette pro for the Voron.
I'm guessing you mostly use the prusa and mosaic for multi color because it's faster and less waste?
I’ve had the same thought. I don’t see a way to make the palette and the Bambu work together. The Bambu doesn’t have a USB port that I’ve found to connect it to the palette.
As far as waste amount, they’re close to the same. I find that I usually use a meter or two more on the palette.
No, I usually only use the palette these days when the Bambu is already occupied, or when I need to print with abrasives.
@@thisprintedthing7967 thank you for the feedback👍. I'm pretty excited to get the bambu more now. Great video and I subbed.
@@BennyTygohome thank you so much. Yeah, it’s an expensive purchase. But I absolutely don’t regret it.
You can most likely use abrasives in the AMS if you print feeder protectors with short ptfe tube and put them over your feeder tubes.
This should alleviate the greatest wear on the system (the feeder funnels), with possible later wear on the extruder gears (which are metal) and plastic first stage feeder gears, but much less likely.
It will likely increase maintenance on the AMS but should last a long time before needing this, given the feeders are now protected and the gears in the first stage can even be 3d printed.
Thank you for share interresting comparision , and good video !
Thank you for watching.
i loved my prusa mk3s+ with the palette 2S with octoprint but then i bought the palette 3 pro and i hated it and regret i ever sold my palette 2S... i could not get the palette 3 pro timing right and i had a lot of experience with the palette 2S... so no more palette for me sorry mosaic im going for the bambu and already have the mmu2S working (needed lots of mods) so im very curious about the bambu hope i can buy it soon
I think metric crap ton is easier to measure with compared to imperial crap ton
Lol, I agree.
Great video - thanks.
Thank you.
Subscribed and hope for better focus on close up shots!
Not really a contests, None of the palette products have work properly ever and the company Mosaic are a bunch of dodgy scammers..... Don't buy Mosaic products as they only kinda work and don't stand behind their product for warranty or even getting it to work at all.... Abrasives destroy the Palette Pro really quick as it cannot take any wear due to the tiny tolerances it only works within. The palette can only print at 1/10th the speed of the Bamboo, so even though the Bamboo needs to cut and purge the Palette simply can't print faster than about 60m/s if you don't want it to fail every colour change and this has been a problem since their first Palette 1 and has never been fixed. This means just about every print from the palette has the wrong colour used in it somewhere (if not every other layer) so you get less than 10% successful prints from Palette Pro and 99% success from the Bamboo and the Bamboo is still way faster.
Joel sold out many years ago to Mosaic and is why he continues to promote a product that does not work, even his own videos shows it failing but he just skips over it....
I just found out about this product and I considered it over the Bambu printer. Then I saw the firmware was over a year old and a comment from a member of Mosaic staff said they are working on other things at the moment. They won't be getting my money with that kind of attitude. It's not like it has been finely tuned and needs no further work is it!
@Trevs-Shed well, it’s been out for a couple of years. My guess is that they’ve turned their attention to the next thing.
It’s actually not a bad product as it is now. The only real problem that I’ve had with mine is when the splice core went out. One of the pogo pins on the back of the splice core had a worn out spring, so it wasn’t making good contact with the connector behind it. Not sure how that could have happened, since it’s not a part that frequently gets removed from the machine. But anyway, Mosaic replaced the part at no cost to me.
The product really is good as it is now. You just have to know how to use it, how to tune the materials to splice well. Once that is accomplished, it’s fairly bullet-proof. But that being said, there is competition from Bambu, with easier technology to use. And Bambu has teased a product that they will fully announce in a few days that I think is going to eat Mosaic’s lunch, so to speak.
Hi
Thanks for the reply. I almost bought a Bambu a few days ago but then saw their announcement. Hence the search that brought me here. I use pogopins on a programmer for some STM32 IC's, hard to see how the spring would wear out. @@thisprintedthing7967
@@Trevs-Shed company been like this from start, dodgy money grubbing liers who don't support or warranty their own products. Who on earth would be silly enough to buy mosaic over bamboo.....
very informative!
Thank you. So, you get a 3D printer yet?
I sold my AMS maybe I’ll buy again when they release version 2.0. It’s too finicky, wastes more filament then required to print and makes prints significantly longer. My next printer will be a prusa or k1. I’m sure I’ve offended all the bambu pumping fanboys
I'm actually a fanboy of both Prusa and Bambu. So no offense here. I know that my AMS is not the same as the AMS at the time of launch. I know that that AMS was riddled with bugs, both hardware and firmware. But this one that I have seems to be mostly solid. I do think they still have a road ahead of them, though, as far as development before I would bet my life on it.
I actually have a kick starter version of theX1C and AMS and it has been relatively trouble free. I did need to contact support to get a new main board because the new 1st stage feeders require an updated part. Took less than a week from contacting support to getting the part delivered.
The one thing the ams has been great for is filament holder. Having 4 colors at the ready, dry and no need to manually feed filament paid for itself in convivence alone.
It's one of the [many] reasons I don't use my mk3s+ as much. Speed being the main reason.
@@ashleys3dprintshop u must be one of the few lucky ones, I’ve heard morning but horror stories about the kickstarter version. And if u are using ams just as a filament holder, there are certainly cheaper better options. But if u don’t mind wasting more filament to print than the actual print itself ams will definitely help you accomplish that. Not worth it
@@irbose9895 I think you glossed over the point of me saying it holds my filament. lol
1 AMS holds 4kg worth of filament. I can use the AMS as a redundant backup if I run out of filament mid print. I don't need to touch it unless I run spools bare. So I can run a week without needing to manually load filament unless it's TPU or highly abrasive.
I have thousands of filament changes and it works fine.
That means my printer will cut, retract, load, purge then print it still works great almost a year in service. I take care of my machines so I perform general maintenance and check ptfe tubes, filament guides so I wont exactly think I am lucky or special.
The AMS has a humidity sensor which gives an overall green/yellow/red indicator for moisture. I can check this from my phone or slicer.
So from my personal experience it's extremely reliable and I would easily buy it again along with other BL printers.
The MMU2 was terrible on the prusa machines (Fingers crossed that the mmu3 works well.)
The palette 3 is very expensive($600 or $800) and requires bespoke implementations to work. (web browser to color prints)
The Prusa XL multihead changer is vaporware to me unless it hits retail officially. It's been nearly 2 years and only the single head released to a very small, but passionate, customer base.
Idex printers are limited to 2 filament types and have their own annoying drawbacks.
The ERCF is a Frankenstein's monster looking for a mad scientist who needs to source, build, test, mod, tune, test again. (nero 3d shout out)
Ankermake v6 may be an interesting option when it releases but its currently in testing with no official release date.
There arent that many options for reliable multi material at a reasonable expense that "just works" outside of the Bambu implementation. Time will tell.
/rant
@@ashleys3dprintshop writing an article with intent to pump in the comment section doesn’t change anything other than some possibly assuming you’re a paid pumping fanboy
Hey man, not tryna be a dick her, but I wanted to point something out in case you happen to be unaware: the presentation looked, sounded and felt like it was scripted. I imagine it is genuine, and you are the one who wrote the notes, but it was hard to watch because of how much it sounded like you were reading from your notes word for word instead of flowing with it like in a natural and dynamic conversation. And because of that, it made it sound disingenuous. I hope this is interpreted as constructive, I’m no troll.
I agree. There was a lot of solid info in this video that will most likely be lost by most people due to the monotone and scripted delivery. The transitions and visual content presentation was amazing, on par with top tier channels, they just need to work on the narration. I was honestly surprised to see that they have less than 100 subscribers. Subbing with the hope that the channel creater is able to make a few small tweaks to iron out the rough edges.
The bambu makes the overpriced palette irrelevant - i sold mine and purchased 2 x1
Well, yes and no. It takes 2 AMSs to do as many colors as the Palette 3 Pro. At that point, your spending almost as much either way.
@@thisprintedthing7967 Agreed BUT we get 2 printers - not 1
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